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Polo, i think some fans would be happy if it all went tits up.

I'd rather see us in blue etc. but i won't be giving myself a heart attack on here over it.

I can't see vinny losing sleep over a few grumbling over a free scarf either.

I bet they would take a different colour shirt right now

Exactly

Cheers Mario,cannot believe that you and I agree on something at last.The stability of the Club comes first in my eyes,red or blue that is the way it has to be,lets just Hope Tan doesn,t cock it up.

Polo, i think some fans would be happy if it all went tits up.

I'd rather see us in blue etc. but i won't be giving myself a heart attack on here over it.

I can't see vinny losing sleep over a few grumbling over a free scarf either.

It will be same ones moaning that protested when the tax man nearly wound us up.

You cant please some people.

ALOT of sense being spoken on this thread. Bet it doesnt get put as a sticky though. The sticky section on here should be renamed as the doom,gloom and depression section.

Pompey got in the mess they are in through greedy owners who knew nothing about football and the British culture.............Ring a bell????????

Pompey got in the mess they are in through greedy owners who knew nothing about football and the British culture.............Ring a bell????????

no. What has happened to our club to have the Malaysians branded as greedy owners?? Lets not forget Harry Redknapp was involved with the Pompey downfall.

Pompey got in the mess they are in through greedy owners who knew nothing about football and the British culture.............Ring a bell????????

Yeah. Sam Hammam

The amount of old heads who were at Huddersfield last week bears testament to the fact that the majority just want to see Cardiff City do well first - Colour of the shirt second

Pompey got in the mess they are in through greedy owners who knew nothing about football and the British culture.............Ring a bell????????

no. What has happened to our club to have the Malaysians branded as greedy owners?? Lets not forget Harry Redknapp was involved with the Pompey downfall.

Was he?.....So it was all Harry's fault

I bet they would take a different colour shirt right now

Agreed, for once

I bet they would take a different colour shirt right now

Funny u should say this Polo I am in Mallorca this moment and a about 25 Pompey are here on a stag do and I've asked them this and everyone one one of them except 2 of said f**k it it we would never change they are all lads from the 80S They said they are proud of being Pimpey colour and name no matter what division

I bet they would take a different colour shirt right now

Funny u should say this Polo I am in Mallorca this moment and a about 25 Pompey are here on a stag do and I've asked them this and everyone one one of them except 2 of said f**k it it we would never change they are all lads forms the 80S They said they are proud of being Pimpey colour and name no matter what division

Not being funny Annis but thats only 23 Pompey fans. They are obviously still living in the 80's, maybe they dont understand football has changed and its now a business.

I bet they would take a different colour shirt right now

Funny u should say this Polo I am in Mallorca this moment and a about 25 Pompey are here on a stag do and I've asked them this and everyone one one of them except 2 of said f**k it it we would never change they are all lads forms the 80S They said they are proud of being Pimpey colour and name no matter what division

Not being funny Annis but thats only 23 Pompey fans. They are obviously still living in the 80's, maybe they dont understand football has changed and its now a business.

Your prob right as I am as well and identity, pride, passion and tradition and love for the club I've known for 40 yrs means everything to me

Bournemouth,Southampton,Portsmouth,all been in admin.WHU financial difficulties.whose managed them,could QPR BE NEXT.

I bet they would take a different colour shirt right now

Funny u should say this Polo I am in Mallorca this moment and a about 25 Pompey are here on a stag do and I've asked them this and everyone one one of them except 2 of said f**k it it we would never change they are all lads from the 80S They said they are proud of being Pimpey colour and name no matter what division

It's quite a selfish attitude imo.

If they had a choice between liquidation or red shirts and they chose liquidation that's unfair on the thousands who would accept a shirt change.

If they want liquidation they can pretend it has been liquidated and form a phoenix club.

I bet they would take a different colour shirt right now

Funny u should say this Polo I am in Mallorca this moment and a about 25 Pompey are here on a stag do and I've asked them this and everyone one one of them except 2 of said f**k it it we would never change they are all lads forms the 80S They said they are proud of being Pimpey colour and name no matter what division

Not being funny Annis but thats only 23 Pompey fans. They are obviously still living in the 80's, maybe they dont understand football has changed and its now a business.

Your prob right as I am as well and identity, pride, passion and tradition and love for the club I've known for 40 yrs means everything to me

Dont get me wrong, I love the club. But im afraid the only way we're going to see Man utd,Arsenal,Chelsea,Man City at Cardiff is if we make a few sacrifices.

I bet they would take a different colour shirt right now

Funny u should say this Polo I am in Mallorca this moment and a about 25 Pompey are here on a stag do and I've asked them this and everyone one one of them except 2 of said f**k it it we would never change they are all lads forms the 80S They said they are proud of being Pimpey colour and name no matter what division

Not being funny Annis but thats only 23 Pompey fans. They are obviously still living in the 80's, maybe they dont understand football has changed and its now a business.

Your prob right as I am as well and identity, pride, passion and tradition and love for the club I've known for 40 yrs means everything to me

Dont get me wrong, I love the club. But im afraid the only way we're going to see Man utd,Arsenal,Chelsea,Man City at Cardiff is if we make a few sacrifices.

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And the rebrand was a sacrifice we didn't need to make,it was never red or dead

I bet they would take a different colour shirt right now

Funny u should say this Polo I am in Mallorca this moment and a about 25 Pompey are here on a stag do and I've asked them this and everyone one one of them except 2 of said f**k it it we would never change they are all lads forms the 80S They said they are proud of being Pimpey colour and name no matter what division

Not being funny Annis but thats only 23 Pompey fans. They are obviously still living in the 80's, maybe they dont understand football has changed and its now a business.

Your prob right as I am as well and identity, pride, passion and tradition and love for the club I've known for 40 yrs means everything to me

Dont get me wrong, I love the club. But im afraid the only way we're going to see Man utd,Arsenal,Chelsea,Man City at Cardiff is if we make a few sacrifices.

.here we go again
And the rebrand was a sacrifice we didn't need to make,it was never red or dead

I don,t class myself as a better fan then any other,be it they have supported the Club for 1 day or 30 years,but in my case and most of the mates who I go down the City with we have been going for 30 years or more and in the main,with one or two exceptions have accepted the changes for the benefit of the Clubs long term future.Do not think that because you are a die hard blue means you are a better fan than any other who have moved on with the changes.

Spot on. Top post.

Its all being blamed on the "new fans", thats a load of bollocks. I have been 20+ years following City, so have most of my mates, and we are happy to see City winning, and as you say accepting the changes for the benefit of the club.

We went through the shit times, now we are embracing the good times. Prefer to be in blue obviously, but the team winning is more important than what colour shirts they are wearing.

Well said Polo

HIRWAUN.......Just because you accepted doesn't mean others have to,,and why have you got Bluebird in your name when you have accepted it, hypocrisy springs to mind,one foot in one foot out,you should be running the country,now stop stamping your feet because we ain't discussing the issues you want to talk about.

I bet they would take a different colour shirt right now

This is my 25th season supporting City and the old days in the lower divisions are still up there as my best days out. Oxford away in a pre season friendly this season, we were welcomed with a big "Welcome Cardiff City" sign in the pub outside the ground. Macclesfield away was also a top trip. Compare these trips to the Old Trafford's if we go up next season where we will be bused into the ground on a coach hours before the game, then see the game and be bused straight back out and it's no comparison what trip is the better day out.

Of course, I want us to be successful, but the elation I will feel if we win the league and lift the trophy at Hull in red will be nothing compared to the elation I felt when we won the Fourth Division trophy under Eddie May or the playoff final against QPR. Next season if we go up, we will be paying extortionate prices to see an unrecognisable Cardiff City trying to compete in the Premiership. Yes, I will probably be attending the majority of these games, but it's the trips to Fulham, Everton and Spurs that excite me the most, proper stadiums with proper fans and proper atmospheres, just like the die hards at the lower league grounds.

So if you gave me a choice out of us getting to the Premiership in red, or going back to the lower leagues with our blue, Bluebird and identity back, then I would choose the lower leagues in blue every time; simply because I will have more enjoyable, cheaper trips away in the lower leagues, seeing proper grounds with character and being surrounded by the die hards giving a proper atmosphere.

So to answer your question, yes I would rather be a Pompey fan. Times are tough for Pompey at the moment, but they are too big a club to struggle down there for years and they will eventually bounce back. If VT pulls the plug and we turn into another Pompey, do you really think we would be stuck down in the lower leagues forever? We are a capital City and we would eventually bounce back. I would happily take 10-20 years in the lower leagues in blue than a lifetime of Premiership football in red. But obviously, these are my feelings and we currently have a fan base full of glory hunters who want instant success and Premiership football right now.

I do not think anyone likes the red but a lot have accepted it for the love of the club then there are others who wont accept the red and want blue only for the love of the club

On Tuesday night if someone wants a free scarf my only hope is that no other supporter who hates the red doesnt start having a go that is not acceptable

What I will say is that all home games this season there is a lot of supporters in red shirts I just hope as supporters we just respect each other acceptance and support the club and hope that we go back to Blue but if we go up I think Tan will see that as Red is lucky and we will have difficulty getting it back Blue

Here's a thought...

Tan DID NOT come to Cardiff City, he DID NOT save the Club from the HMRC
and the circling vultures. Cardiff City Football Club DID go bust...

League rules mean that Cardiff City Football Club CAN start again... but have
to do so as Cardiff Phoenix FC or Cardiff Borough, or Cardiff United. Would
anyone prefer red to something like that? Not a sarcastic question. Not looking
for a bite/argument/confrontation.

Here's a thought...

Tan DID NOT come to Cardiff City, he DID NOT save the Club from the HMRC
and the circling vultures. Cardiff City Football Club DID go bust...

League rules mean that Cardiff City Football Club CAN start again... but have
to do so as Cardiff Phoenix FC or Cardiff Borough, or Cardiff United. Would
anyone prefer red to something like that? Not a sarcastic question. Not looking
for a bite/argument/confrontation.

To be honest if we had to do a Rangers, meaning we would get back to playing in blue with the Bluebird as the main emblem on our badge, I would be all for it. I know that would mean our history of achievements, including the 1927 FA Cup win would be wiped away, but at least it would feel like I would be back to watching the "real" Cardiff City in blue again. I would find it a lot easier to get behind a new Cardiff City in blue than our current Cardiff City in red. Just my opinion of course and I imagine the majority will disagree with this.

Here's a thought...

Tan DID NOT come to Cardiff City, he DID NOT save the Club from the HMRC
and the circling vultures. Cardiff City Football Club DID go bust...

League rules mean that Cardiff City Football Club CAN start again... but have
to do so as Cardiff Phoenix FC or Cardiff Borough, or Cardiff United. Would
anyone prefer red to something like that? Not a sarcastic question. Not looking
for a bite/argument/confrontation.

To be honest if we had to do a Rangers, meaning we would get back to playing in blue with the Bluebird as the main emblem on our badge, I would be all for it. I know that would mean our history of achievements, including the 1927 FA Cup win would be wiped away, but at least it would feel like I would be back to watching the "real" Cardiff City in blue again. I would find it a lot easier to get behind a new Cardiff City in blue than our current Cardiff City in red. Just my opinion of course and I imagine the majority will disagree with this.

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I feel the same

Here's a thought...

Tan DID NOT come to Cardiff City, he DID NOT save the Club from the HMRC
and the circling vultures. Cardiff City Football Club DID go bust...

League rules mean that Cardiff City Football Club CAN start again... but have
to do so as Cardiff Phoenix FC or Cardiff Borough, or Cardiff United. Would
anyone prefer red to something like that? Not a sarcastic question. Not looking
for a bite/argument/confrontation.

To be honest if we had to do a Rangers, meaning we would get back to playing in blue with the Bluebird as the main emblem on our badge, I would be all for it. I know that would mean our history of achievements, including the 1927 FA Cup win would be wiped away, but at least it would feel like I would be back to watching the "real" Cardiff City in blue again. I would find it a lot easier to get behind a new Cardiff City in blue than our current Cardiff City in red. Just my opinion of course and I imagine the majority will disagree with this.

No idea what people would think mate. But "Cardiff Athletic" to me or something
like that would feel AS wrong, if not MORE wrong than a different colour shirt.

My opinion anyway.

SHIT!!! I dont want to cause another 'split'

Here's a thought...

Tan DID NOT come to Cardiff City, he DID NOT save the Club from the HMRC
and the circling vultures. Cardiff City Football Club DID go bust...

League rules mean that Cardiff City Football Club CAN start again... but have
to do so as Cardiff Phoenix FC or Cardiff Borough, or Cardiff United. Would
anyone prefer red to something like that? Not a sarcastic question. Not looking
for a bite/argument/confrontation.

To be honest if we had to do a Rangers, meaning we would get back to playing in blue with the Bluebird as the main emblem on our badge, I would be all for it. I know that would mean our history of achievements, including the 1927 FA Cup win would be wiped away, but at least it would feel like I would be back to watching the "real" Cardiff City in blue again. I would find it a lot easier to get behind a new Cardiff City in blue than our current Cardiff City in red. Just my opinion of course and I imagine the majority will disagree with this.

No idea what people would think mate. But "Cardiff Athletic" to me or something
like that would feel AS wrong, if not MORE wrong than a different colour shirt.

My opinion anyway.

SHIT!!! I dont want to cause another 'split'

To be fair everyone was going on about Rangers being called Rangers Newco, or Newco Rangers or whatever they were going to be called. But everyone has already got back to referring to them as Rangers and when they work their way back up to the SPL and battle it out with Celtic for the title again, most people will completely forget about them starting from scratch again. I believe the same would happen with us, we would restart as Cardiff City Bluebirds or something along them lines, but everyone will quickly refer to us as Cardiff City. I would honestly rather us restart as a blue Cardiff City than continue supporting a red Cardiff City for the rest of my life. But I appreciate many of you will disagree and feel completely different to me.

Here's a thought...

Tan DID NOT come to Cardiff City, he DID NOT save the Club from the HMRC
and the circling vultures. Cardiff City Football Club DID go bust...

League rules mean that Cardiff City Football Club CAN start again... but have
to do so as Cardiff Phoenix FC or Cardiff Borough, or Cardiff United. Would
anyone prefer red to something like that? Not a sarcastic question. Not looking
for a bite/argument/confrontation.

To be honest if we had to do a Rangers, meaning we would get back to playing in blue with the Bluebird as the main emblem on our badge, I would be all for it. I know that would mean our history of achievements, including the 1927 FA Cup win would be wiped away, but at least it would feel like I would be back to watching the "real" Cardiff City in blue again. I would find it a lot easier to get behind a new Cardiff City in blue than our current Cardiff City in red. Just my opinion of course and I imagine the majority will disagree with this.

No idea what people would think mate. But "Cardiff Athletic" to me or something
like that would feel AS wrong, if not MORE wrong than a different colour shirt.

My opinion anyway.

SHIT!!! I dont want to cause another 'split'

To be fair everyone was going on about Rangers being called Rangers Newco, or Newco Rangers or whatever they were going to be called. But everyone has already got back to referring to them as Rangers and when they work their way back up to the SPL and battle it out with Celtic for the title again, most people will completely forget about them starting from scratch again. I believe the same would happen with us, we would restart as Cardiff City Bluebirds or something along them lines, but everyone will quickly refer to us as Cardiff City. I would honestly rather us restart as a blue Cardiff City than continue supporting a red Cardiff City for the rest of my life. But I appreciate many of you will disagree and feel completely different to me.

I hadnt even contemplated that. A new name would mean losing our 'Honours list'

Wiping away our FA Cup win, three appearances in the Final, Runners up in the league,
League Cup finalists, European Cup winners Cup semi-finalists?? Surely THAT would be
turning our backs on our history and tradition more than a change of shirt (something
we have done before) Hmmmm.. dont think I like that idea at all feller

Here's a thought...

Tan DID NOT come to Cardiff City, he DID NOT save the Club from the HMRC
and the circling vultures. Cardiff City Football Club DID go bust...

League rules mean that Cardiff City Football Club CAN start again... but have
to do so as Cardiff Phoenix FC or Cardiff Borough, or Cardiff United. Would
anyone prefer red to something like that? Not a sarcastic question. Not looking
for a bite/argument/confrontation.

To be honest if we had to do a Rangers, meaning we would get back to playing in blue with the Bluebird as the main emblem on our badge, I would be all for it. I know that would mean our history of achievements, including the 1927 FA Cup win would be wiped away, but at least it would feel like I would be back to watching the "real" Cardiff City in blue again. I would find it a lot easier to get behind a new Cardiff City in blue than our current Cardiff City in red. Just my opinion of course and I imagine the majority will disagree with this.

No idea what people would think mate. But "Cardiff Athletic" to me or something
like that would feel AS wrong, if not MORE wrong than a different colour shirt.

My opinion anyway.

SHIT!!! I dont want to cause another 'split'

It would be a yes from me.

The rules would mean a new name, not much you can do about rules, but the identity spirit will be there.