What the hell has this got to do with football?

Wars are political OR religious.

There are hundreds of thousands of us in football stadiums week in, week out, and having the poppy on the shirt, and having a moments silence is a way to commemorate those that gave the ultimate price for our freedom and way of life (including that minority of f*ckers at Celtic park)

I can't believe you're being bullied by Noone mind, he seems a really nice lad.

If anyone wants to wear a poppy on his jacket or shirt, thats fine with me. I wouldnt, but thats my personal choice. But I wouldnt want any political symbol on a sports shirt. And that's regardless of what it stands for, e.g. I adore the brave men and women in the German resistance movement during the 3rd Reich. Its only right and proper to commemorate them but not on a sports shirt.

The poppy is political, as it remembers all British deads in all wars. If (like the white poppy appeal) it was neutral to all deads (regardless of nationality) it would be accepted by all.

How would pro-british Irishmen react, if their teams would wear the 1916 Easter-Lily, in rembrance of the Dublin Easter Rising? Ask Linfield fans if they would remember the victims of Bloody Sunday and hold a minute of silence...

And to those "the famine is over..."-brigade: fair enough, how about telling those loyalists in Northern Ireland to go home again and move back to Scotland and England?

Wouldnt work, wouldnt it? People are settled where they are now, regardless of ethnicity or background...

[irony] Send the Angles and Saxons back to East Germany, where they come from, all coloured people back to Africa, if your family name sounds Polish - back to Poland etc... oh wait: that's sounds like the political programme of the BNP... [/irony]

and dont you forget the Royal Family...but sorry, we dont want them back

Wars are political OR religious.

There are hundreds of thousands of us in football stadiums week in, week out, and having the poppy on the shirt, and having a moments silence is a way to commemorate those that gave the ultimate price for our freedom and way of life (including that minority of f*ckers at Celtic park)

I can't believe you're being bullied by Noone mind, he seems a really nice lad.

If anyone wants to wear a poppy on his jacket or shirt, thats fine with me. I wouldnt, but thats my personal choice. But I wouldnt want any political symbol on a sports shirt. And that's regardless of what it stands for, e.g. I adore the brave men and women in the German resistance movement during the 3rd Reich. Its only right and proper to commemorate them but not on a sports shirt.

The poppy is political, as it remembers all British deads in all wars. If (like the white poppy appeal) it was neutral to all deads (regardless of nationality) it would be accepted by all.

How would pro-british Irishmen react, if their teams would wear the 1916 Easter-Lily, in rembrance of the Dublin Easter Rising? Ask Linfield fans if they would remember the victims of Bloody Sunday and hold a minute of silence...

And to those "the famine is over..."-brigade: fair enough, how about telling those loyalists in Northern Ireland to go home again and move back to Scotland and England?

Wouldnt work, wouldnt it? People are settled where they are now, regardless of ethnicity or background...

[irony] Send the Angles and Saxons back to East Germany, where they come from, all coloured people back to Africa, if your family name sounds Polish - back to Poland etc... oh wait: that's sounds like the political programme of the BNP... [/irony]

and dont you forget the Royal Family...but sorry, we dont want them back

The poppy IS NOT a political statement. Every year, hundreds of thousands of British
people come our to commemorate remembrance day. To remember when Britain stood up
as one against a dangerous aggressor. the poppy has become the symbol for our people
to say "do you know what, our Armed Forces get shite pay, get sent to shite places and
get killed doing it. This is our way of saying thank you to those that gave the ultimate
sacrifice, its our mark of respect".... THAT is not political, the British people are not
condoning wars in Afghanistan, Iraq or The Falklads, they are just paying their respects.
If someone refuses to wear it, or acknowledge it, then thats up to them. But that most
definitely IS a political act.

"I will not wear a poppy" to me is two-fingers up to lads like ourselves, working class men
who on the whole did not have much option but to pick up a gun and shoot at people they
have never met. Either through conscription or high-unemployment, our Armed Forces is
full of the very same type of fellers who stand by me in work, in the pub, on the terraces.

Its about respect, not politics.

I'd stick anyone who disagrees on a boat to a British-hating nation of their choice. ireland isnt far!!

Taffy, I have never agreed with you more.

Really galls me when these people jump on the band wagon about every bad thing that the "British" have done to them.

I could spout on for hours about all the in killing they have done and I mean the Irish, Afghans, Iraqis etc - if they, the Celtic fans, do not want to honour the war dead and I bet a great many of their own families can be counted amongst them who fought for Britain, well shame on them - utter scum in my opinion

They look at life through rose tinted glasses - fools!!

Annis

Funny you should ask what this 'got to do with football'..................and then go into the archives to find this old picture to force a pointless debate.

It was 'done' on here long ago.

For the record, got into a scrap with Celtic supporters for singing anti Army songs in Dempseys after the Celtic match. Most in there were just singing along but when you talked to them, had lost a friend or knew someone seriously hurt in conflict.

They felt slightly embarrased generally.

Best to leave it there!

I like Celtic as I am a catholic but I am disgusted at what I can see in that picture and Annis you are 100% correct, it has nothing whatsoever to do with football and has no place in football but its not all the fans that are like that just the pathetic minority.
I'm truly ashamed

I'm a protestant but I don't like Rangers.

Don't make sense to me?

Steve, I do agree with you in today's society but back in the day it was a big thing and I was brought up to support Celtic because of the catholic factor but NOT the IRA. It was either Rangers or Celtic for my Scottish team and it's obvious which one my family went for.
Religion should never be brought into football anyway and it's pretty sad that a few believe the hype and not support the team instead of advertising crap about religion. Celtic is a Scottish team ffs not Irish.

The poppy IS NOT a political statement. Every year, hundreds of thousands of British
people come our to commemorate remembrance day. To remember when Britain stood up
as one against a dangerous aggressor. the poppy has become the symbol for our people
to say "do you know what, our Armed Forces get shite pay, get sent to shite places and
get killed doing it. This is our way of saying thank you to those that gave the ultimate
sacrifice, its our mark of respect".... THAT is not political, the British people are not
condoning wars in Afghanistan, Iraq or The Falklads, they are just paying their respects.
If someone refuses to wear it, or acknowledge it, then thats up to them. But that most
definitely IS a political act.

"I will not wear a poppy" to me is two-fingers up to lads like ourselves, working class men
who on the whole did not have much option but to pick up a gun and shoot at people they
have never met. Either through conscription or high-unemployment, our Armed Forces is
full of the very same type of fellers who stand by me in work, in the pub, on the terraces.

Its about respect, not politics.

I'd stick anyone who disagrees on a boat to a British-hating nation of their choice. ireland isnt far!!

lets agree to disagree here then, in my view it is political, as it remembers the ones who fought in wars. and I know what the red poppy stands for, I lived in Cardiff for 3 years.