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Re: Gay Marriage - Yes or No poll

Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:01 pm

NIBluebird wrote:
Zabier wrote:
NIBluebird wrote:
Zabier wrote:
NIBluebird wrote:
BIG_BAD_WOLF wrote:100% yes.

Why on earth should two people who are in love not have the right to get married? It's ludicrous.


Its not natural for a start - woman was created for man - simple


It's not natural? Doggy style isn't necessarily natural going on that basis... if doggy style is natural though then doesn't that mean homosexuality is natural because the male g-spot is the prostate gland.


Its not the sexual position its the male and male concept


Are your views influenced by religion or are they non-religious views? Just interest to know where your thinking is coming from. You use the term "created" which suggests you might be religious which would be pointless continuing this debate because then we would get into the chicken vs the egg argument! :lol:


Religious Zabier - the chicken and egg is simple , since everything was created the chicken came first - see its simple - also this subject is very contentious so this will be my last post on it as it doesnt affect CCFC :) but have a good day :ayatollah:


Booo! Get back here! I'm bored! :D

Re: Gay Marriage - Yes or No poll

Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:02 pm

Zabier wrote:
BanterLad115 wrote:
Zabier wrote:
BanterLad115 wrote:This isn't about love, I'm sure jimmy saville love his kids but it still wasn't right for him to screw them in the ass. For me the simple fact is that gay people can't procreate by having sex and so I consider it unnatural whether you look at it from evolution or religion its still wrong, end of story 8-)


So by saying that do you think that infertile men and women should be refused the right to get married?


No because that's a defect, not a choice, you're trying to compare disabled people with gay people ;)


I would not even use the word disabled for someone that can't have kids mate.


I know I realised that after I wrote it :lol: , what I mean is there's a difference between a defect and a choice

Re: Gay Marriage - Yes or No poll

Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:06 pm

Zabier wrote:
BanterLad115 wrote:
Zabier wrote:
BanterLad115 wrote:This isn't about love, I'm sure jimmy saville love his kids but it still wasn't right for him to screw them in the ass. For me the simple fact is that gay people can't procreate by having sex and so I consider it unnatural whether you look at it from evolution or religion its still wrong, end of story 8-)


So by saying that do you think that infertile men and women should be refused the right to get married?


No because that's a defect, not a choice, you're trying to compare disabled people with gay people ;)


I would not even use the word disabled for someone that can't have kids mate.


Yeah, that's not what I meant, I'm saying you can't compare defects with choices, an infertile man will still want to have sex because it fulfills his evolutionary desire, there's a big difference between that and gay sex, the argument doesn't stand.

Re: Gay Marriage - Yes or No poll

Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:06 pm

I see what you are saying but I really am finding it impossible to agree with what you are saying. Think we will just have to agree to disagree. I just don't think there's any harm in gay marriage. How does it hurt others? Imagine if a law came in saying that those that had tattoos and piercings were not allowed to be married to people that didn't have tattoos or piercings due to them not being natural. It's a murky argument.

Re: Gay Marriage - Yes or No poll

Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:09 pm

Zabier wrote:I see what you are saying but I really am finding it impossible to agree with what you are saying. Think we will just have to agree to disagree. I just don't think there's any harm in gay marriage. How does it hurt others? Imagine if a law came in saying that those that had tattoos and piercings were not allowed to be married to people that didn't have tattoos or piercings due to them not being natural. It's a murky argument.


Good I'm glad my views can be accepted without someone going nuts, I also understand your arguments and would like to think that I would never be predjudiced towards a gay person based on their sexuality, but that doesn't mean I still find it wrong. Just saying. :)

Re: Gay Marriage - Yes or No poll

Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:10 pm

I'm not religious. The laws of marriage come from religion.

They can do what they like. It's not my business. Who are we to say different?

Lol @ people going out of their way to stop this. What a waste of your own personal time.

Re: Gay Marriage - Yes or No poll

Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:17 pm

"I'm against same sex marriage"
"On What basis?"
"'Cause traditional marriage is between one man and one woman, the Bible says so"
"Actually, King Solomon had 700 wives... and traditional marriage according to Deuteronomy means that a man who rapes a woman must marry her, so try again."
"I think gay people are icky."
"There you go..."

Re: Gay Marriage - Yes or No poll

Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:31 pm

Something like 1 in 10 are gay, so going by that Adam brown has about 3 gay multis.

Re: Gay Marriage - Yes or No poll

Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:33 pm

Gay people dont bother me. If I stop to imagine the 'icky' bits though, it makes
me wanna puke. So I dont. Lete them get on with it. Gay marriage? If they want
to, so what, it dont bother me!!

But I would NOT let gay couples adopt Children. No way.

Re: Gay Marriage - Yes or No poll

Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:34 pm

CantonJack wrote:Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve


It's 2013, not 4004 BC. :roll:

Re: Gay Marriage - Yes or No poll

Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:36 pm

taffyapple wrote:Gay people dont bother me. If I stop to imagine the 'icky' bits though, it makes
me wanna puke. So I dont. Lete them get on with it. Gay marriage? If they want
to, so what, it dont bother me!!

But I would NOT let gay couples adopt Children. No way.

Same here. Doesn't effect me what they do.
However if they're in public kissing doing all that nonsense then I would feel uncomfortable.
Don't see why they shouldn't get married it should be there right. Like it is most of ours.

Re: Gay Marriage - Yes or No poll

Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:40 pm

No.

Re: Gay Marriage - Yes or No poll

Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:40 pm

What I find amusing is the fact that the ones against gay marriage arguing that marraige means "the union of a man and woman in the eyes of god" how many of them attend Church regularly? To me it all comes down to homophobia

For me its not up to me to decide whether religons should allow it. The best action would to grant the same rights of married people to people in civil partnerships.

Re: Gay Marriage - Yes or No poll

Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:43 pm

CjBluebird17 wrote:What I find amusing is the fact that the ones against gay marriage arguing that marraige means "the union of a man and woman in the eyes of god" how many of them attend Church regularly? To me it all comes down to homophobia

For me its not up to me to decide whether religons should allow it. The best action would to grant the same rights of married people to people in civil partnerships.



ohhhh ack at her, speak to the hand boyfriend :malky:

Re: Gay Marriage - Yes or No poll

Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:44 pm

CantonJack wrote:Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve


I bet you wouldnt complain if its Amy and Eve though

Re: Gay Marriage - Yes or No poll

Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:46 pm

Ben wrote:
CjBluebird17 wrote:What I find amusing is the fact that the ones against gay marriage arguing that marraige means "the union of a man and woman in the eyes of god" how many of them attend Church regularly? To me it all comes down to homophobia

For me its not up to me to decide whether religons should allow it. The best action would to grant the same rights of married people to people in civil partnerships.



ohhhh ack at her, speak to the hand boyfriend :malky:


I'm not gay but nice try. I would just rather see a portion of my friends to have the same rights as me and everyone else in society.

Re: Gay Marriage - Yes or No poll

Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:48 pm

CjBluebird17 wrote:
Ben wrote:
CjBluebird17 wrote:What I find amusing is the fact that the ones against gay marriage arguing that marraige means "the union of a man and woman in the eyes of god" how many of them attend Church regularly? To me it all comes down to homophobia

For me its not up to me to decide whether religons should allow it. The best action would to grant the same rights of married people to people in civil partnerships.



ohhhh ack at her, speak to the hand boyfriend :malky:


I'm not gay but nice try. I would just rather see a portion of my friends to have the same rights as me and everyone else in society.


so pedophiles and murders can have the same rights? :ayatollah: , anyone who isn't good and proper should be put to sleep!

Re: Gay Marriage - Yes or No poll

Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:50 pm

Ben wrote:
CjBluebird17 wrote:
Ben wrote:
CjBluebird17 wrote:What I find amusing is the fact that the ones against gay marriage arguing that marraige means "the union of a man and woman in the eyes of god" how many of them attend Church regularly? To me it all comes down to homophobia

For me its not up to me to decide whether religons should allow it. The best action would to grant the same rights of married people to people in civil partnerships.



ohhhh ack at her, speak to the hand boyfriend :malky:


I'm not gay but nice try. I would just rather see a portion of my friends to have the same rights as me and everyone else in society.


so pedophiles and murders can have the same rights? :ayatollah: , anyone who isn't good and proper should be put to sleep!


How does being Gay link to pedophiles and murder? :lol:

Re: Gay Marriage - Yes or No poll

Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:54 pm

CjBluebird17 wrote:
Ben wrote:
CjBluebird17 wrote:
Ben wrote:
CjBluebird17 wrote:What I find amusing is the fact that the ones against gay marriage arguing that marraige means "the union of a man and woman in the eyes of god" how many of them attend Church regularly? To me it all comes down to homophobia

For me its not up to me to decide whether religons should allow it. The best action would to grant the same rights of married people to people in civil partnerships.



ohhhh ack at her, speak to the hand boyfriend :malky:


I'm not gay but nice try. I would just rather see a portion of my friends to have the same rights as me and everyone else in society.


so pedophiles and murders can have the same rights? :ayatollah: , anyone who isn't good and proper should be put to sleep!


How does being Gay link to pedophiles and murder? :lol:


Because there's something missing upstairs, they are missing something in the brain thus makes them unnormal :malky: :lol:

Re: Gay Marriage - Yes or No poll

Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:59 pm

Ben wrote:
CjBluebird17 wrote:
Ben wrote:
CjBluebird17 wrote:
Ben wrote:
CjBluebird17 wrote:What I find amusing is the fact that the ones against gay marriage arguing that marraige means "the union of a man and woman in the eyes of god" how many of them attend Church regularly? To me it all comes down to homophobia

For me its not up to me to decide whether religons should allow it. The best action would to grant the same rights of married people to people in civil partnerships.



ohhhh ack at her, speak to the hand boyfriend :malky:


I'm not gay but nice try. I would just rather see a portion of my friends to have the same rights as me and everyone else in society.


so pedophiles and murders can have the same rights? :ayatollah: , anyone who isn't good and proper should be put to sleep!


How does being Gay link to pedophiles and murder? :lol:


Because there's something missing upstairs, they are missing something in the brain thus makes them unnormal :malky: :lol:


Its just down to genetics just like everything else. It occurs throughout the animal kingdom.

Paedos though are competely different and it isnt down to genetics its simply that they are somewhat mentally deranged.

I'm not going to tell people to like all gay men and women but they still deserve the same rights as everyone else

Re: Gay Marriage - Yes or No poll

Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:27 pm

taffyapple wrote:Gay people dont bother me. If I stop to imagine the 'icky' bits though, it makes
me wanna puke. So I dont. Lete them get on with it. Gay marriage? If they want
to, so what, it dont bother me!!

But I would NOT let gay couples adopt Children. No way.


I know gay couples that could provide a far better upbringing for a child than some of the drug riddled right offs you see on Jeremy Kyle every morning.

Re: Gay Marriage - Yes or No poll

Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:29 pm

NO - NO - NO

QUEER FUCKAS :twisted: :evil: :twisted: :evil:

Re: Gay Marriage - Yes or No poll

Tue Feb 05, 2013 2:12 pm

Ben wrote:
CjBluebird17 wrote:
Ben wrote:
CjBluebird17 wrote:
Ben wrote:
CjBluebird17 wrote:What I find amusing is the fact that the ones against gay marriage arguing that marraige means "the union of a man and woman in the eyes of god" how many of them attend Church regularly? To me it all comes down to homophobia

For me its not up to me to decide whether religons should allow it. The best action would to grant the same rights of married people to people in civil partnerships.



ohhhh ack at her, speak to the hand boyfriend :malky:


I'm not gay but nice try. I would just rather see a portion of my friends to have the same rights as me and everyone else in society.


so pedophiles and murders can have the same rights? :ayatollah: , anyone who isn't good and proper should be put to sleep!


How does being Gay link to pedophiles and murder? :lol:


Because there's something missing upstairs, they are missing something in the brain thus makes them unnormal :malky: :lol:


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ ... l_behavior

1500 species exhibit homosexual behaviour. Yet only humans exhibit homophobic behaviour. So which is the unnatural one? Fail.

Re: Gay Marriage - Yes or No poll

Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:44 pm

They all say "In Genesis, it was Adam and Eve, not Adam and STEVE!"

That's complete bullsh1t, as everyone knows in Genesis it was Peter Gabriel, Phil Collins, Tony Banks and Mike Rutherford... ;)

Re: Gay Marriage - Yes or No poll

Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:13 pm

krabb wrote:
RFMH wrote:Yes

Why anyone would want to keep rights for themselves but stand in the way of others is beyond belief.

spot on.....to mant people want to interfere with others....instead of worrying about what they themselves are doing... :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


Can't say I agree with that. The Countryside Alliance didn't want interferance when Fox hunting was banned due to the overwhelming marjority of people beliving that it was a disgusting and barbaric practise.

Gay marriage shouldn't be allowed but I can see the common sense of a civil partnership. The difference IMO is marriage is the bedrock of family life and it is impossible for same sex couples to produce offspring in the way hetrosexuals can.

Therefore being denied marriage is not treating them less favourably, they simply do-not fit the criteria for marriage and should stick to civil partnerships instead.

Re: Gay Marriage - Yes or No poll

Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:15 pm

RFMH wrote:
1500 species exhibit homosexual behaviour. Yet only humans exhibit homophobic behaviour. So which is the unnatural one? Fail.


Why is it that everytime Gays are denied something they play the homophobic card?

Re: Gay Marriage - Yes or No poll

Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:22 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
Gay marriage shouldn't be allowed but I can see the common sense of a civil partnership. The difference IMO is marriage is the bedrock of family life and it is impossible for same sex couples to produce offspring in the way hetrosexuals can. Therefore being denied marriage is not treating them less favourably, they simply do-not fit the criteria for marriage and should stick to civil partnerships instead.


So marriages that cant produce offspring due to sterility should be null and void because they dont meet your criteria?

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
Why is it that everytime Gays are denied something they play the homophobic card?


Not being gay I can't really talk for people that are. But the response was to the notion that homosexuality is unnatural. Which is stupid. Hope this clears things up :thumbup:

Re: Gay Marriage - Yes or No poll

Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:23 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
krabb wrote:
RFMH wrote:Yes

Why anyone would want to keep rights for themselves but stand in the way of others is beyond belief.

spot on.....to mant people want to interfere with others....instead of worrying about what they themselves are doing... :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


Can't say I agree with that. The Countryside Alliance didn't want interferance when Fox hunting was banned due to the overwhelming marjority of people beliving that it was a disgusting and barbaric practise.

Gay marriage shouldn't be allowed but I can see the common sense of a civil partnership. The difference IMO is marriage is the bedrock of family life and it is impossible for same sex couples to produce offspring in the way hetrosexuals can.

Therefore being denied marriage is not treating them less favourably, they simply do-not fit the criteria for marriage and should stick to civil partnerships instead.


Why do all the anti-gay people think this issue is so black and white?
"They can't have kids so they can't get married" is absolutely ridiculous. We all know there are millions of heterosexual men and women that can't have children. We also all know that there are millions of heterosexual men and women unfit to have children through countless different reasons. Should they not get married as well?

The difference IMO is marriage is the bedrock of family life


That IMO bit shows it is your opinion, but it is not correct. Marriage is not there to be a bedrock of family life, its a commitment of 2 people that are in love to spend the rest of thier lives together. It has nothing to do with children.

You (and anyone else) can try to sound sincere and thought provoking through your arguments on this subject but all it comes down to is ignorance and homophobia. The only legitimate argument is the religious aspect, and religion is ignorant and homophobic.

Re: Gay Marriage - Yes or No poll

Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:31 pm

BIG_BAD_WOLF wrote:
taffyapple wrote:Gay people dont bother me. If I stop to imagine the 'icky' bits though, it makes
me wanna puke. So I dont. Lete them get on with it. Gay marriage? If they want
to, so what, it dont bother me!!

But I would NOT let gay couples adopt Children. No way.


I know gay couples that could provide a far better upbringing for a child than some of the drug riddled right offs you see on Jeremy Kyle every morning.


What does that prove? The scum on Jeremy Kyle I'd have put down.

Still doesnt mean that kids should be exposed to Daddy and Daddy kissing and hugging
in the kitchen. Its NOT natural behaviour. Any more than kids being forced to watch
Mummy and Daddy shooting up in the bedroom

Re: Gay Marriage - Yes or No poll

Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:36 pm

Getting married-marriage is out of date and should be scrapped all together. Its pointless in this day and age.