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Re: gambling addiction

Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:00 pm

Addiction of any kind is horrible and massively misunderstood. Anything that can dominate people's lives and decisions in such a way is all too easily blamed on the person when it's shown time and time again not to be the case. Education is needed in early childhood before the rot of misconceptions can set in.

It is a disease.

Re: gambling addiction

Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:01 pm

DannyboyBluebirds wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:The FOBTs should be banned and or they should be cash only. Letting you whack your bank card in them is criminal.


Best thing you can do is give your cards to partner or parents and have them give you money you need. It's brutal at first but it's the only thing that will stop you

Done that then pinched my cards back :lol:

I honestly think the penny has dropped this time with the FOBTs after what happened with work.

Losing a grand here and there would be f**k all compared to losing a job earning decent money.

Luckily I havent lost my family and they have never gone without. Nice home, holidays, clothes all the things money can buy. It didnt get to stage where I couldnt put food on table. Far from it but mentally I do beat myself up the thousands ive lost but cant turn clock back now.

Re: gambling addiction

Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:01 pm

Mario Polotelli wrote:Paulh85 I didnt put my story up for sympathy from the likes of you you smarmy prick.

If someone reads and it helps them realise they have a problem and decide to do something about it then thats good enough for me.



smarmy? :?


ive had problems with gambling myself, lost a lot of money and racked up some debt. not on a level to what some people have lost, but still a lot for me at the time (started on my 18th birthday)

now ive had to give gambling up, starting this year, i have odds swirling around in my head 24/7, and with something like the aussie open on at the moment, i would usually be all over it.

do/did i have a proper addiction? probably not, becuase although tempted to have a bet now, i dont get the pull of it i used too, and i am managing to stop myself.

you seem to openly admit to an addiction, but seem happy to carry on, they say the first step is admitting you have a problem, which you have done.

you say that someone might read your story and realise they themselves have a problem, i say you are not helping people in a similar position by saying quite frankly uneducated things such as "its all the FOBT's fault" for you it might be, for others it might be the casino, horses for others. you said the following.

"i still bet everyday but FOBT's were my addiction"

i dont know you, but you ARE wrong, your addiction is gambling, doesnt matter what form it comes in, and i hope you beat it.

if i come across as smarmy its not my intention

Re: gambling addiction

Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:02 pm

RFMH wrote:Addiction of any kind is horrible and massively misunderstood. Anything that can dominate people's lives and decisions in such a way is all too easily blamed on the person when it's shown time and time again not to be the case. Education is needed in early childhood before the rot of misconceptions can set in.

It is a disease.

Dont agree. Thats the easy answer blaming someonelse.

Rather take responsibility for my own actions.

Re: gambling addiction

Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:06 pm

Mario Polotelli wrote:
RFMH wrote:Addiction of any kind is horrible and massively misunderstood. Anything that can dominate people's lives and decisions in such a way is all too easily blamed on the person when it's shown time and time again not to be the case. Education is needed in early childhood before the rot of misconceptions can set in.

It is a disease.

Dont agree. Thats the easy answer blaming someonelse.

Rather take responsibility for my own actions.


The first step is to admit that you have become powerless over gambling and it has made your life unmanageable

Re: gambling addiction

Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:07 pm

paulh_85 wrote:i have to be honest, its hard to so any sympathy for you, you admit to being addicted, yet do nothing about trying to fix it, and you seem so blase about it, not really consistant with someone in your condition surely?


What a load of shit. Its not as simple as just stopping doing it. Its a psychological condition as much as anyone and everyone will have a vice that once they explore a few times addiction will kick in whether it be drugs, smoking, drink, visiting prostitutes, gambling, sex, etc.

Knowing you have an addiction is one thing. Doing something about it is entirely a different matter. The world is full of addicts whether we like it or not. You have women racking up £30,000 debts on credit cards to buy clothes, you have men doing the same for gambling, you have drug addicts all over the place, people even addicted to caffeine and need a coffee in the morning or they act like a complete arse wipe all day because they ain't had their fix, people hooked on prescription drugs such as prozac, etc.

Some are turned a blind eye to, some people dont care about, others they look down upon. The problem is the media shoving it all down peoples throats. New casino opening up, take prozac to help you with this, get a credit card with Barclays we'll give you the best rate ever, drug dealers everywhere, etc.

They don't really give two hoots. We are all just statistics in the world to them and as long as the statistics sway in their favour, keep a lovely little roof (or roofs if they're fiddling) over their head that is all that matters to them. One of the biggest problems at the moment are video games in my opinion - i know of people who never go out, sit in their room. flunking uni etc coz they would rather just game and thats all they do. Me personally, Id rather get smashed but then thats my choice I suppose. :lol:

Re: gambling addiction

Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:10 pm

Mario Polotelli wrote:
RFMH wrote:Addiction of any kind is horrible and massively misunderstood. Anything that can dominate people's lives and decisions in such a way is all too easily blamed on the person when it's shown time and time again not to be the case. Education is needed in early childhood before the rot of misconceptions can set in.

It is a disease.

Dont agree. Thats the easy answer blaming someonelse.

Rather take responsibility for my own actions.


Responsibility is an aspect, but people get dismissed as though it's something they can turn off if they want. That's a massive problem.

Re: gambling addiction

Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:11 pm

Where did I say it was the FOBTs fault Paul?!?!?

Stop making things up you condesending toad.

I said that they should be banned. To a gambler they are like heroin / crack. Illegal substances.

I got no one to blame but myself.

And having a small casual bet on the football is my way of helping ne beat the FOBTs so please dont tell me what I should and shouldnt be doing. Ill deal with it in my own way.

Re: gambling addiction

Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:18 pm

DannyboyBluebirds wrote:Gambling addiction is a disease like any addiction. My older brother stole and gambled £15 million from his company and went to jail and I have struggled personally with gambling.


Article only says 8 million but it was 15.

He only did a year inside mind in a category D white collar nick
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ga ... eft-525649

20k on scorecasts :shock:

Re: gambling addiction

Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:18 pm

Mario Polotelli wrote:Where did I say it was the FOBTs fault Paul?!?!?

Stop making things up you condesending toad.

I said that they should be banned. To a gambler they are like heroin / crack. Illegal substances.

I got no one to blame but myself.

And having a small casual bet on the football is my way of helping ne beat the FOBTs so please dont tell me what I should and shouldnt be doing. Ill deal with it in my own way.



well dont come on here with the "i understand and you couldnt possibly understand" bollocks then.

you clearly have no grasp of what you are doing.

what would you say if a drug addict said "i just take a little bit of cocaine to stop myself taking heroine" ffs!

those machines shouldnt be banned. Should alcohol be banned because some people are addict? no.

gambling is a serious addiction that effects the lives of the people around you, you admit to being addicted but seek no help, and still try to justify the "odd" bet. :roll:

Re: gambling addiction

Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:20 pm

All Black Everything. wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:i have to be honest, its hard to so any sympathy for you, you admit to being addicted, yet do nothing about trying to fix it, and you seem so blase about it, not really consistant with someone in your condition surely?


What a load of shit. Its not as simple as just stopping doing it. Its a psychological condition as much as anyone and everyone will have a vice that once they explore a few times addiction will kick in whether it be drugs, smoking, drink, visiting prostitutes, gambling, sex, etc.




i only read this, you obviously havent read everything i have written

Re: gambling addiction

Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:24 pm

paulh_85 wrote:
All Black Everything. wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:i have to be honest, its hard to so any sympathy for you, you admit to being addicted, yet do nothing about trying to fix it, and you seem so blase about it, not really consistant with someone in your condition surely?


What a load of shit. Its not as simple as just stopping doing it. Its a psychological condition as much as anyone and everyone will have a vice that once they explore a few times addiction will kick in whether it be drugs, smoking, drink, visiting prostitutes, gambling, sex, etc.




i only read this, you obviously havent read everything i have written

Probably becaus of what you have written is utter bollocks and lies.

Re: gambling addiction

Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:24 pm

I like to bet but I limit myself to 3 £1 accumulators per week. 1 on the championship, 1 on the premier league and then a random one depending what event is on i.e. champions league, fa cup etc.

If I win then i've got a decent amount coming in but with more excitement watching the scores come in etc. If I lose then its only around the same amount people put on the lottery per week. However, I think doing £1 accumulators is more fun than the lottery.

Re: gambling addiction

Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:26 pm

Mario Polotelli wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
All Black Everything. wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:i have to be honest, its hard to so any sympathy for you, you admit to being addicted, yet do nothing about trying to fix it, and you seem so blase about it, not really consistant with someone in your condition surely?


What a load of shit. Its not as simple as just stopping doing it. Its a psychological condition as much as anyone and everyone will have a vice that once they explore a few times addiction will kick in whether it be drugs, smoking, drink, visiting prostitutes, gambling, sex, etc.




i only read this, you obviously havent read everything i have written

Probably becaus of what you have written is utter bollocks and lies.



yeah, tough reading something you would rather not isnt it :roll:

Re: gambling addiction

Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:28 pm

All Black Everything. wrote:I like to bet but I limit myself to 3 £1 accumulators per week. 1 on the championship, 1 on the premier league and then a random one depending what event is on i.e. champions league, fa cup etc.

If I win then i've got a decent amount coming in but with more excitement watching the scores come in etc. If I lose then its only around the same amount people put on the lottery per week. However, I think doing £1 accumulators is more fun than the lottery.



my problem was it was never enough. i might have won 50/60 quid one week and a wanted more. Around september time i won 500 quid on a goals galore, ever since then ive been looking for similar odds with similar returns, as going back to winning small amounts doesnt give the same buzz.

Re: gambling addiction

Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:31 pm

paulh_85 wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
All Black Everything. wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:i have to be honest, its hard to so any sympathy for you, you admit to being addicted, yet do nothing about trying to fix it, and you seem so blase about it, not really consistant with someone in your condition surely?


What a load of shit. Its not as simple as just stopping doing it. Its a psychological condition as much as anyone and everyone will have a vice that once they explore a few times addiction will kick in whether it be drugs, smoking, drink, visiting prostitutes, gambling, sex, etc.




i only read this, you obviously havent read everything i have written

Probably becaus of what you have written is utter bollocks and lies.


Its tough reading anything you write Paul as you havent got a scooby what you are talking about wether it be football, darts or adfiction.

yeah, tough reading something you would rather not isnt it :roll:

Re: gambling addiction

Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:39 pm

ok, i dont have a clue what im talking about, but you are the oh so knowledgable one..... :roll:

i know more about the mindset of an addict than you ever will, someone as intelligent as you clearly think you are should know there is no justification for what you are doing, and that you should seek help, yet you come on here trying to act the man about it, like its no big deal, and it sets a bad example to anyone who reads it who might be in a similar position.

Re: gambling addiction

Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:42 pm

An addiction is an addiction.
It's an addiction for thee individual. Don't see how you can categorise what's worse. Unless you've had them yourself.

Re: gambling addiction

Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:44 pm

milly44 wrote:An addiction is an addiction.
It's an addiction for thee individual. Don't see how you can categorise what's worse. Unless you've had them yourself.



you can categorise it by what it leaves behind, for yourself, and the people you love. whatever your addiction it is possible to turn it around, but it also ruins people too. different addictions effect people in different ways.

Re: gambling addiction

Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:47 pm

paulh_85 wrote:ok, i dont have a clue what im talking about, but you are the oh so knowledgable one..... :roll:

i know more about the mindset of an addict than you ever will, someone as intelligent as you clearly think you are should know there is no justification for what you are doing, and that you should seek help, yet you come on here trying to act the man about it, like its no big deal, and it sets a bad example to anyone who reads it who might be in a similar position.

Learn to read and digest words instead of making things up to suit your argunent you cretin.

You dont have the first clue about addiction or life in general by the sounds of you.

Re: gambling addiction

Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:49 pm

Mario Polotelli wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:ok, i dont have a clue what im talking about, but you are the oh so knowledgable one..... :roll:

i know more about the mindset of an addict than you ever will, someone as intelligent as you clearly think you are should know there is no justification for what you are doing, and that you should seek help, yet you come on here trying to act the man about it, like its no big deal, and it sets a bad example to anyone who reads it who might be in a similar position.

Learn to read and digest words instead of making things up to suit your argunent you cretin.

You dont have the first clue about addiction or life in general by the sounds of you.



yeah yeah....... "ill deal with it in my own way"


good luck with that :roll:

Re: gambling addiction

Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:50 pm

paulh_85 wrote:different addictions effect people in different ways.


Yet I shouldnt have a small bet on the football because I was addicted to FOBTs :lol:

Different people different ways of dealing with it.

Re: gambling addiction

Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:52 pm

paulh_85 wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:ok, i dont have a clue what im talking about, but you are the oh so knowledgable one..... :roll:

i know more about the mindset of an addict than you ever will, someone as intelligent as you clearly think you are should know there is no justification for what you are doing, and that you should seek help, yet you come on here trying to act the man about it, like its no big deal, and it sets a bad example to anyone who reads it who might be in a similar position.

Learn to read and digest words instead of making things up to suit your argunent you cretin.

You dont have the first clue about addiction or life in general by the sounds of you.



yeah yeah....... "ill deal with it in my own way"

good luck with that :roll:


Yes I will rather than listen to someone who has read the books but hasnt gone through the reality

Re: gambling addiction

Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:53 pm

Mario Polotelli wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:different addictions effect people in different ways.


Yet I shouldnt have a small bet on the football because I was addicted to FOBTs :lol:




i dont really need to say anything more..... :lol:

Re: gambling addiction

Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:54 pm

paulh_85 wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:different addictions effect people in different ways.


Yet I shouldnt have a small bet on the football because I was addicted to FOBTs :lol:




i dont really need to say anything more..... :lol:

Thank f**k for that.

Re: gambling addiction

Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:55 pm

frankly I don't know how paulh could read that as polo being blase?!?

Polo, that advice about the cards is bang on. In fact, you should get rid of your cards period, just cut them up and have the mrs dole you out 100 a week or whatever for booze and fags.

Re: gambling addiction

Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:57 pm

Damned Yank wrote:frankly I don't know how paulh could read that as polo being blase?!?

Polo, that advice about the cards is bang on. In fact, you should get rid of your cards period, just cut them up and have the mrs dole you out 100 a week or whatever for booze and fags.

That's it turn him into a smoking alcoholic to :lol:

Re: gambling addiction

Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:57 pm

Mario Polotelli wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:different addictions effect people in different ways.


Yet I shouldnt have a small bet on the football because I was addicted to FOBTs :lol:




i dont really need to say anything more..... :lol:

Thank f**k for that.


I think he's saying the gambling addict can't bet on anything at all, much like the alcoholic can't drink again. A fair point.

Re: gambling addiction

Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:58 pm

milly44 wrote:
Damned Yank wrote:frankly I don't know how paulh could read that as polo being blase?!?

Polo, that advice about the cards is bang on. In fact, you should get rid of your cards period, just cut them up and have the mrs dole you out 100 a week or whatever for booze and fags.

That's it turn him into a smoking alcoholic to :lol:


:lol: :lol: :lol: sorry polo

Re: gambling addiction

Thu Jan 17, 2013 12:14 am

Damned Yank wrote:frankly I don't know how paulh could read that as polo being blase?!?

.


He should go to Specsavers, especially after reading his views on darts and football :lol: