It's time for Velikonja

Thought this thread was about Velikonja??

I don't think he's good enough. He's slow and lazy. Look at who the teams who've gone up recently have had leading their line... Rudy isn't the level required for a team challenging for the league title.

Mason came on and did little. I feel that he was used unfairly. If we were to bring on Mason, we should have started playing it on the floor and not lumping it up, that's not going to work without A target man.

Helguson didn't have much time to make an impact, so to be critical of him would be unfair, yet I feel that he should not be leading our line alone.

We are in desperate need of a striker. Would love to see what Maynard would be doing right now.

You're entitled to your opinion and he may well be slow, but personally, I don't think he's lazy!

With regards to the rest of your post though, this is virtually what I was saying earlier, Mason had the ball lumped up to him and did nothing, Helguson had the ball lumped up to him and did nothing (accept your point about him not having much time), yet everybody has a go at Rudy who had to deal with the same poor service as Mason & Helguson!

Whoever plays up front for us, needs to have the ball played in to them at a lower height, so that it gives them a chance to be able to control the ball, hold it up and bring other players into the game, which is what Rudy did at Leicester!

It's no good launching the ball 8 or more feet into the air and expecting anybody to be able to control the ball, like Rudy, Mason & Helguson were expected to do on Saturday, a point which a lot of people on here have missed!

Yes, the same service was to all strikers, but it's unfair on Mason as he isn't a "target-man" whereas Gestede is.. So should be suited to that sort of service.

It doesn't matter how high the ball is over your head, whether you're 6' 4" like Gestede, or 5' 11" ish like Mason, if it's over your head, it's over your head!

Rudy won a few balls in the air on Saturday, which he managed to find Bellers with on a couple of occasions.

However, I can't recall one pass into him, that gave him any opportunity to be able to control the ball anywhere near chest height or lower, which would have allowed him the chance to hold the ball up and bring our midfield more into play!

I don't think he's good enough. He's slow and lazy. Look at who the teams who've gone up recently have had leading their line... Rudy isn't the level required for a team challenging for the league title.

Mason came on and did little. I feel that he was used unfairly. If we were to bring on Mason, we should have started playing it on the floor and not lumping it up, that's not going to work without A target man.

Helguson didn't have much time to make an impact, so to be critical of him would be unfair, yet I feel that he should not be leading our line alone.

We are in desperate need of a striker. Would love to see what Maynard would be doing right now.

You're entitled to your opinion and he may well be slow, but personally, I don't think he's lazy!

With regards to the rest of your post though, this is virtually what I was saying earlier, Mason had the ball lumped up to him and did nothing, Helguson had the ball lumped up to him and did nothing (accept your point about him not having much time), yet everybody has a go at Rudy who had to deal with the same poor service as Mason & Helguson!

Whoever plays up front for us, needs to have the ball played in to them at a lower height, so that it gives them a chance to be able to control the ball, hold it up and bring other players into the game, which is what Rudy did at Leicester!

It's no good launching the ball 8 or more feet into the air and expecting anybody to be able to control the ball, like Rudy, Mason & Helguson were expected to do on Saturday, a point which a lot of people on here have missed!

Yes, the same service was to all strikers, but it's unfair on Mason as he isn't a "target-man" whereas Gestede is.. So should be suited to that sort of service.

It doesn't matter how high the ball is over your head, whether you're 6' 4" like Gestede, or 5' 11" ish like Mason, if it's over your head, it's over your head!

Rudy won a few balls in the air on Saturday, which he managed to find Bellers with on a couple of occasions.

However, I can't recall one pass into him, that gave him any opportunity to be able to control the ball anywhere near chest height or lower, which would have allowed him the chance to hold the ball up and bring our midfield more into play!

There was one time in the first half the ball was passed to him waist height, he took one touch, dallied and then lost it! A decent target man would have shielded the ball and waited for support, but Rudy just didn't know what to do with it!

Getting back to Velikonja, whilst I agree playing in a weak team at macclesfield didn't do him any favours, I was expecting him to show at least a small improvement from his pre-season games and I thought his ability would have stood out. But to me, he still looks a sluggish, weak, lower league striker who is not up to the physical demands of the British game. He still gets easily outmuscled and bullied off the ball. I haven't seen him play a development game and he may look a bit better against young kids. But against experienced physical centre backs who have been there and done it, he gets made mince meat out of.

He couldn't be any worse than Gestede was on Saturday.

Yep , Its time to give a start I think . Or get him and the joke that is Gestede out of the Club

I hear he scored again tonight for the dev team.

He's got to feature at some point on Saturday!! Go on malky

It's been time for Etien for a while now.

Would be very surprise if he got a run.

If Malky is going to continue to not pick him then he needs to get someone he will.

It's been said on here he's not strong enough but he cant be anymore lightweight than Mason or Rudy surely.

PLAY HIM

i dont get why people are saying "give him a go, hes scoring goals in the dev team" and then saying "don't judge him on the game v maccasfield, he was playing alongside kids"

it was the same team pretty much

i think we need to face up to the fact he isnt going to be good enough.

i dont get why people are saying "give him a go, hes scoring goals in the dev team" and then saying "don't judge him on the game v maccasfield, he was playing alongside kids"

it was the same team pretty much

i think we need to face up to the fact he isnt going to be good enough.

It's a bit unfair to say he's not good enough when he hasn't been given a run in the team?

People have a go at me for saying Gestede isn't good enough, even though he's had a run in the team!

He couldn't do any worse than Rudy and Masons 45 mins each they had. Give him a go.

i dont get why people are saying "give him a go, hes scoring goals in the dev team" and then saying "don't judge him on the game v maccasfield, he was playing alongside kids"

it was the same team pretty much

i think we need to face up to the fact he isnt going to be good enough.

It's a bit unfair to say he's not good enough when he hasn't been given a run in the team?

People have a go at me for saying Gestede isn't good enough, even though he's had a run in the team!

no i dont think its unfair at all, Malky sees him every day and obviously doesnt think he is ready. He got a rare chance in the cup game and showed nothing, now although i wouldnt judge him too harshly on that one performace, its clear he wont be given a chance here.

Makes you wonder what Malky saw in him. Only 1 million more and we could have Michu.

He would offer more than that donkey Rudy.

He would offer more than that donkey Rudy.

i disagree, although Rudy was poor on Saturday. He wasnt the only one mind.

Well your entitled to your oppinion chuckles ...but I think you are simple re your quote and im not simple

Well your entitled to your oppinion chuckles ...but I think you are simple re your quote and im not simple

Yet again, you aim posts at me. Why not give others an earful for having the same opinion?!

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no i dont think its unfair at all, Malky sees him every day and obviously doesnt think he is ready. He got a rare chance in the cup game and showed nothing, now although i wouldnt judge him too harshly on that one performace, its clear he wont be given a chance here.

And what does Malky see in the joke that is Rudy ?. C'Mon give Velikonja a couple of starts and if he doesn't make it, get rid of him, A striker need confidence and needs service and tbh Velikonja got little of that at Macclesfield

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no i dont think its unfair at all, Malky sees him every day and obviously doesnt think he is ready. He got a rare chance in the cup game and showed nothing, now although i wouldnt judge him too harshly on that one performace, its clear he wont be given a chance here.

And what does Malky see in the joke that is Rudy ?. C'Mon give Velikonja a couple of starts and if he doesn't make it, get rid of him, A striker need confidence and needs service and tbh Velikonja got little of that at Macclesfield

someone watching rudy without bias this season would have to admit that he has altered games when coming off the bench, not all, but some of the time. even if there was no direct involvment with the goals.

He started v millwall, and played well first half before fading. Played v ipswich and was poor, but then so were a lot of other people v ipswich

He's changed one or two games, yes. Never seen him play outstanding well though, certainly not to a standard of a team challenging for the 2nd tier title...

He's not good enough to start in our team and we need reinforcements in that area.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtxJeOUXlw0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHp-RsDGWsA

The boy has got something about him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtxJeOUXlw0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHp-RsDGWsA

The boy has got something about him.

everyone can look good on youtube

He was quite bad at Macclesfield but had quite a youthful side with him, with better players he'll have better service and be more motivated

It's the team he plays with in the dev side and scores regularly with

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtxJeOUXlw0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHp-RsDGWsA

The boy has got something about him.

everyone can look good on youtube

I bet you wouldn't.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtxJeOUXlw0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHp-RsDGWsA

The boy has got something about him.

everyone can look good on youtube

I bet you wouldn't.

they didnt call me "hattrick" harrington for nothing in my younger days

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtxJeOUXlw0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHp-RsDGWsA

The boy has got something about him.

everyone can look good on youtube

I bet you wouldn't.

they didnt call me "hattrick" harrington for nothing in my younger days

Nice one.

someone watching rudy without bias this season would have to admit that he has altered games when coming off the bench, not all, but some of the time. even if there was no direct involvment with the goals

He hasn't, he still lazy and I'm sick of him needed the crowd to tell him to chase down a defender or a goal keeper and given his height he's pretty useless in the air .

Nah. Rudy was dreadful on Saturday.

Rudy just isnt good enough

He was quite bad at Macclesfield but had quite a youthful side with him, with better players he'll have better service and be more motivated

It's the team he plays with in the dev side and scores regularly with

So, doesn't mean that the service was any good!

The strength in depth is frightening

Eti was great tonight. Scored 3 then was involved in winning the penalty.

Definately worth considering and definately not a waste of money like some people are saying.

Theo Wharton looks like a good prospect too. Along with a lot of the others.

Eti was great tonight. Scored 3 then was involved in winning the penalty.

Definately worth considering and definately not a waste of money like some people are saying.

He deserves a place on the bench. I would rest Mason for a game not sure what one maybe Bristol.