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Re: Can i just say regarding Maynard...

Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:11 pm

Not really expecting him to be back to be honest would rather see him rested and allow him to proparly recover for where ever we end up

Re: Can i just say regarding Maynard...

Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:25 pm

Just a couple of points

1) Malky hardly has a reputation of rushing players back from injury
2)Was your injury treated by one of the best sports injury surgeon's in Europe
3)was your rehab handled by a top championship medical staff on a daily basis

Re: Can i just say regarding Maynard...

Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:39 pm

Didn't malky say he wouldn't be back again this season? Starting back training could mean anything.

Re: Can i just say regarding Maynard...

Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:18 pm

In fairness these injurys are hard to judge.. my mate had the same and it depends what kind of recovery you make.. nobody really knows when he can play or not :ayatollah:

Re: Can i just say regarding Maynard...

Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:20 pm

DandoCCFC wrote:In fairness these injurys are hard to judge.. my mate had the same and it depends what kind of recovery you make.. nobody really knows when he can play or not :ayatollah:



scott does apparently :lol:

Re: Can i just say regarding Maynard...

Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:22 pm

I can see where hes coming from.. my mate had a really good physio. He recovered fully 5 and half months and managed to play off the bench in 3 games.. weren't fully good as he was but got back to how he was. :ayatollah:

Re: Can i just say regarding Maynard...

Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:32 pm

scott_w_ccfc wrote:
thehumblegringo wrote:
scott_w_ccfc wrote:
CalShepCCFC wrote:
scott_w_ccfc wrote:
CalShepCCFC wrote:i agree with what you're saying and yes he should not be rushed back, but i'm pretty sure the medics at the club will know when it is right to bring him back without the injury recurring... it weren't to long ago that Malky put alot of work into developing a class A medical team to deal with injuries?

True, but you can have the best medical staff in the world and they wouldn't be able to heal this injury quicker than 6 months. It's impossible. And that would mean mid-April earliest, that's all i'm saying. :ayatollah:

As you say, i'm sure they know what they're doing and will leave his comeback until next season. I would put a lot of money on it. It would be risking his career otherwise. :ayatollah:

if they don't feel 100% certain that he'll be fine then i doubt they'll risk him! if they think he's 100% to start playing again then lets just trust them!

Once more, i havent said once the medical staff don't know what they're doing, i'm saying that because THEY DO know what theyre doing, they won't let him return before 6 months. So if anybody has been told that he could be back before mid-April then they've been mis-informed, because this 100% WILL NOT happen.

Only time will show that this is the case. :ayatollah:



I totally agree with you Scott

Cheers mate. :ayatollah:

If anyone wanted to look up other experts opinions on the net, they will see for themselves what i'm trying to say. Just didn't want people to get their hopes up that's all. :ayatollah:


It's clear what you are saying and why you are saying it. You are not coming over as a know-it-all or someone claiming to be in the know more than City's medical staff.....it's just that some people like an argument and like to have the last word :ayatollah:

Re: Can i just say regarding Maynard...

Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:39 pm

Think im right in saying maynard has recovered from this same injury to his other leg hasnt he ..any one know how long that took ...that might be a guide to wether he repairs quicker than the norm or not........however usually what ever barry chuckles say is unquestionably right :ayatollah:

Re: Can i just say regarding Maynard...

Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:47 pm

troobloo3339 wrote:Think im right in saying maynard has recovered from this same injury to his other leg hasnt he ..any one know how long that took ...that might be a guide to wether he repairs quicker than the norm or not........however usually what ever barry chuckles say is unquestionably right :ayatollah:


Nah, not me - the medical staff are the ones that know the most about it, don't you agree? That's what I was saying..

Re: Can i just say regarding Maynard...

Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:55 pm

Can i just say this post has got on my nerves because I am a physio and have dealt with numerous ACL injuries. Scott is right. That is the usual. Although maynard will be getting extra input and the research shows now to develop a player at their own pace Maynard is very very likely not to show his face this season. It will be another 3-4 months before aiming for twisting during 100% training sessions.

Meaning this will be march/april. It is very unlikely that considering we are top, have a few strikers and will be getting (hopefully) one in January that Maynard will be risked coming back. It is likely he will be in full contact within a few months then use the following few months to get full match fitness. Therefore putting him out of the running for making a comeback and if we are doing so well at that point why even change a winning formula. ANy players we see in private or NHS are pretty much ruled out for the season.

If you want an example look at vidic. Did Acl in December and did not feature until end of August

Re: Can i just say regarding Maynard...

Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:57 pm

missninianpark wrote:Can i just say this post has got on my nerves because I am a physio and have dealt with numerous ACL injuries. Scott is right. That is the usual. Although maynard will be getting extra input and the research shows now to develop a player at their own pace Maynard is very very likely not to show his face this season. It will be another 3-4 months before aiming for twisting during 100% training sessions.

Meaning this will be march/april. It is very unlikely that considering we are top, have a few strikers and will be getting (hopefully) one in January that Maynard will be risked coming back. It is likely he will be in full contact within a few months then use the following few months to get full match fitness. Therefore putting him out of the running for making a comeback and if we are doing so well at that point why even change a winning formula. ANy players we see in private or NHS are pretty much ruled out for the season.

If you want an example look at vidic. Did Acl in December and did not feature until end of August


the point few are trying to make is that every case can be different, which to be fair you pretty much say in your post


(welcome to the board by the way)

Re: Can i just say regarding Maynard...

Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:03 pm

scott_w_ccfc wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
scott_w_ccfc wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:everyone is different, if he has the ok to train now i reckon he will be playing development games beginging of march of no complications

Ok then, believe that if you want. :ayatollah:



lol please stop talking about it like you are the chronicle!!


we pay medical staff a lot of money to make these decisions!

Exactly, the medical staff make these decisions, and they will decide that he will come back later than early March.

If you want to believe otherwise then fair enough, makes no difference to me, just wait and see. :ayatollah:


I've snapped both my ACLs. Last operation I had the Welsh team surgeon, Rhys Williams. He said that normal recovery time back to playing sport for a ordinary person is about 8-12 months. For a professional, they normally expect them to be back playing between 6-8 months. Obviously this can vary depending on the individual however the normal rule of thumb is a minimum 6 month recovery after an ACL reconstruction.

Re: Can i just say regarding Maynard...

Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:07 pm

troobloo3339 wrote:Think im right in saying maynard has recovered from this same injury to his other leg hasnt he ..any one know how long that took ...that might be a guide to wether he repairs quicker than the norm or not........however usually what ever barry chuckles say is unquestionably right :ayatollah:

Last time, he was out for a full season I think! Either a season or a full year, one or the other

Re: Can i just say regarding Maynard...

Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:09 pm

I also doubt given the injury, lack of game time and sharpness would mean Nicky will have little impact on the result of the season. Look at Rambos return after long term injury, took a while to see anything resembling his former self

Re: Can i just say regarding Maynard...

Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:02 am

missninianpark wrote:Can i just say this post has got on my nerves because I am a physio and have dealt with numerous ACL injuries. Scott is right. That is the usual. Although maynard will be getting extra input and the research shows now to develop a player at their own pace Maynard is very very likely not to show his face this season. It will be another 3-4 months before aiming for twisting during 100% training sessions.

Meaning this will be march/april. It is very unlikely that considering we are top, have a few strikers and will be getting (hopefully) one in January that Maynard will be risked coming back. It is likely he will be in full contact within a few months then use the following few months to get full match fitness. Therefore putting him out of the running for making a comeback and if we are doing so well at that point why even change a winning formula. ANy players we see in private or NHS are pretty much ruled out for the season.

If you want an example look at vidic. Did Acl in December and did not feature until end of August

Cheers for backing me up mate, nice to get an experts point of view since everyone seemed to think i was talking rubbish/ didn't understand my point.

Welcome to the board. :ayatollah:

Re: Can i just say regarding Maynard...

Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:17 am

scott_w_ccfc wrote:
missninianpark wrote:Can i just say this post has got on my nerves because I am a physio and have dealt with numerous ACL injuries. Scott is right. That is the usual. Although maynard will be getting extra input and the research shows now to develop a player at their own pace Maynard is very very likely not to show his face this season. It will be another 3-4 months before aiming for twisting during 100% training sessions.

Meaning this will be march/april. It is very unlikely that considering we are top, have a few strikers and will be getting (hopefully) one in January that Maynard will be risked coming back. It is likely he will be in full contact within a few months then use the following few months to get full match fitness. Therefore putting him out of the running for making a comeback and if we are doing so well at that point why even change a winning formula. ANy players we see in private or NHS are pretty much ruled out for the season.

If you want an example look at vidic. Did Acl in December and did not feature until end of August

Cheers for backing me up mate, nice to get an experts point of view since everyone seemed to think i was talking rubbish/ didn't understand my point.

Welcome to the board. :ayatollah:


I didn't think you were talking rubbish either. See my post about 9 posts above :ayatollah:

Re: Can i just say regarding Maynard...

Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:32 am

moonboots wrote:
scott_w_ccfc wrote:
missninianpark wrote:Can i just say this post has got on my nerves because I am a physio and have dealt with numerous ACL injuries. Scott is right. That is the usual. Although maynard will be getting extra input and the research shows now to develop a player at their own pace Maynard is very very likely not to show his face this season. It will be another 3-4 months before aiming for twisting during 100% training sessions.

Meaning this will be march/april. It is very unlikely that considering we are top, have a few strikers and will be getting (hopefully) one in January that Maynard will be risked coming back. It is likely he will be in full contact within a few months then use the following few months to get full match fitness. Therefore putting him out of the running for making a comeback and if we are doing so well at that point why even change a winning formula. ANy players we see in private or NHS are pretty much ruled out for the season.

If you want an example look at vidic. Did Acl in December and did not feature until end of August

Cheers for backing me up mate, nice to get an experts point of view since everyone seemed to think i was talking rubbish/ didn't understand my point.

Welcome to the board. :ayatollah:


I didn't think you were talking rubbish either. See my post about 9 posts above :ayatollah:

Ahh yeah cheers too pal, appreciate it. :ayatollah:

Glad a few people could see where i was coming from. :ayatollah:

Re: Can i just say regarding Maynard...

Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:54 am

I got what you meant pal :lol:

Re: Can i just say regarding Maynard...

Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:24 am

paulh_85 wrote:but still scott.... back in march



i love how your trying to be the knowelgable one here, we can all read :)

http://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/news/art ... 90673.aspx

Re: Can i just say regarding Maynard...

Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:26 am

paulh_85 wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:In fairness these injurys are hard to judge.. my mate had the same and it depends what kind of recovery you make.. nobody really knows when he can play or not :ayatollah:



scott does apparently :lol:

turns out i did ;)

Re: Can i just say regarding Maynard...

Fri Jan 11, 2013 1:12 am

scott_w_ccfc wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:In fairness these injurys are hard to judge.. my mate had the same and it depends what kind of recovery you make.. nobody really knows when he can play or not :ayatollah:



scott does apparently :lol:

turns out i did ;)


You certainly did :ayatollah:

Re: Can i just say regarding Maynard...

Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:23 am

im astounded by your arrogance :lol:

Re: Can i just say regarding Maynard...

Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:34 am

Looks like Scott and the medical team were right.

Can't believe you dragged it up and self praised mind. :lol:

Re: Can i just say regarding Maynard...

Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:52 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:As I said, I'm sure the medical staff know what they are doing as they are well qualified and experienced.

No disrespect, but suffering the injury doesn't make you as qualified as them.

If they do let him return, it will because he's fully recovered - they would never let him otherwise. :ayatollah:


We wont see maynard on the pitch until next season as far as im concerned.