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Re: Would you swap?

Thu Jan 03, 2013 10:30 pm

Promotion

Re: Would you swap?

Thu Jan 03, 2013 10:30 pm

Blue any day, we could always duct ourselves down and go again next season ;)


Although it would be hard to take missing out AGAIN

Re: Would you swap?

Thu Jan 03, 2013 10:31 pm

MrEvans wrote:The club hasn't lost it's identity at all. We're still Cardiff City, we're still the Bluebirds. So what, our kit changed? So what our badge changed? The bluebird is still on it.

Finish 1st in red and clear our debt!

clear the debt?????.....i see no sign of debt being cleared with the reported 100 mill that was supposedly made available...... :ayatollah:

Re: Would you swap?

Thu Jan 03, 2013 10:34 pm

SamCCFC1927 wrote:Going up as champions in red or in blue and finishing 7th? :ayatollah:

1 million per cent yes!!!

:ayatollah:

Re: Would you swap?

Fri Jan 04, 2013 2:23 am

BLUE and whatever position we are is fine with me! :ayatollah:

And for those who say "I follow Cardiff City, not a colour" - I support Cardiff City not just a promotion chasing team! :ayatollah:

tbh would rather play in League 2 in blue with our crest than in red and that beermat in the Premiership. Why? Cos after the rebrand it doesnt look and feel like the Cardiff City I fell in love with...

Re: Would you swap?

Fri Jan 04, 2013 5:31 am

Our identity is not gone and neither is our history. It lives through the fans of yesteryear and the fans of today. That can never be taken from us as it comes from within. If our history and identity is gone how come I can still talk about the Bluebirds who played at Ninian and beat Leeds 2-1 in the FA Cup? Because its still there. No one can ever stop me talking about such a proud moment in the clubs history. No one can ever stop me remembering what this club achieved in blue. No one can ever stop me remembering the great moments on the terraces at Ninian. Everyone of you live and breath a bit of Cardiff City and you have the power through word of mouth to pass on our great tradition, history and image. Just because we've entered another chapter in the book it doesn't mean the rest of the book isn't there. There are plenty of chapters that preceded this one and there will be many more to follow.

I haven't sold out. I wanted investment because it kept the club financially safe for now. I didn't want the hard work of players like Whittingham and Hudson who have been loyal flushed down the toilet after their dedication to the cause. Im not about to let a colour get in the way of two loyal people achieving what they set out to do. They are human after all. Imagine how crushing it would be if we went through and they couldn't finish the job? Whitts and Hudson love Cardiff and have said it is their home (we must appreciate that) so that in itself tells you just how much it means to them as well. If us going up in red means that they get to finally finish the job they have stuck around to do then red it is.

Anyone assuming I sold out for my own gain to see Prem teams is deluded.

1) I haven't got a season ticket as im in university so wont be able to renew for next year
2) I will most likely be on work experience abroad next year so won't be able to go to games either

The fact is, Premiership or Blue Square, I'll Be There! (as a supporter whether its at a game, on tv or radio depending on where i am, what i can afford etc.). :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: Would you swap?

Fri Jan 04, 2013 9:48 am

BOWMAN wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:
CjBluebird17 wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:
MrEvans wrote:The club hasn't lost it's identity at all. We're still Cardiff City, we're still the Bluebirds. So what, our kit changed? So what our badge changed? The bluebird is still on it.

Finish 1st in red and clear our debt!

Our identity is our image. Our name is the only thing we still have. I doubt we'll be the bluebirds for much longer.


Can I just comment the fact that your upset about the colour change but why have an avatar of a player wearing the shirt?

Because they're the team I support.


But you dont want them to go up because the shirt is red :lol: Couldn't make it up.
Change your avatar mate ;)


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: what a tampon :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Would you swap?

Fri Jan 04, 2013 9:57 am

Champione

Re: Would you swap?

Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:03 am

I'd rather have food, not be in a war torn country, not have cancer, not have AIDS and live in a country where the colour of one's football team is of paramount importance.

Which is all true. But some people need their priorities sorted.

Go tell someone after a tsunami that your football team has a shite badge and it riles you so.

Re: Would you swap?

Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:05 am

RFMH wrote:I'd rather have food, not be in a war torn country, not have cancer, not have AIDS and live in a country where the colour of one's football team is of paramount importance.

Which is all true. But some people need their priorities sorted.

Go tell someone after a tsunami that your football team has a shite badge and it riles you so.


They will tell you that its not the point unfortunately mate. There is no reasoning with some of them.

Re: Would you swap?

Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:07 am

JonCCFC wrote:100% would rather finish 7th in blue.


Madness!!! :roll:

Re: Would you swap?

Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:23 am

i love these threads, so fun and original

Re: Would you swap?

Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:29 am

All Black Everything. wrote:Our identity is not gone and neither is our history. It lives through the fans of yesteryear and the fans of today. That can never be taken from us as it comes from within. If our history and identity is gone how come I can still talk about the Bluebirds who played at Ninian and beat Leeds 2-1 in the FA Cup? Because its still there. No one can ever stop me talking about such a proud moment in the clubs history. No one can ever stop me remembering what this club achieved in blue. No one can ever stop me remembering the great moments on the terraces at Ninian. Everyone of you live and breath a bit of Cardiff City and you have the power through word of mouth to pass on our great tradition, history and image. Just because we've entered another chapter in the book it doesn't mean the rest of the book isn't there. There are plenty of chapters that preceded this one and there will be many more to follow.

I haven't sold out. I wanted investment because it kept the club financially safe for now. I didn't want the hard work of players like Whittingham and Hudson who have been loyal flushed down the toilet after their dedication to the cause. Im not about to let a colour get in the way of two loyal people achieving what they set out to do. They are human after all. Imagine how crushing it would be if we went through and they couldn't finish the job? Whitts and Hudson love Cardiff and have said it is their home (we must appreciate that) so that in itself tells you just how much it means to them as well. If us going up in red means that they get to finally finish the job they have stuck around to do then red it is.

Anyone assuming I sold out for my own gain to see Prem teams is deluded.

1) I haven't got a season ticket as im in university so wont be able to renew for next year
2) I will most likely be on work experience abroad next year so won't be able to go to games either

The fact is, Premiership or Blue Square, I'll Be There! (as a supporter whether its at a game, on tv or radio depending on where i am, what i can afford etc.). :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


Well said, we would be down the swanny with no team to support or debate about if it wasn't for the rebranding.

Re: Would you swap?

Fri Jan 04, 2013 11:59 am

What dont underdstand is you prefer to risk future of club to stay in blue, is it worth it? Just for colour shirt! and dont forget we dont have choice in colours only choice is team we support, and should do so whatever colour we wear!

Re: Would you swap?

Fri Jan 04, 2013 12:16 pm

All Black Everything. wrote:Our identity is not gone and neither is our history. It lives through the fans of yesteryear and the fans of today. That can never be taken from us as it comes from within. If our history and identity is gone how come I can still talk about the Bluebirds who played at Ninian and beat Leeds 2-1 in the FA Cup? Because its still there. No one can ever stop me talking about such a proud moment in the clubs history. No one can ever stop me remembering what this club achieved in blue. No one can ever stop me remembering the great moments on the terraces at Ninian. Everyone of you live and breath a bit of Cardiff City and you have the power through word of mouth to pass on our great tradition, history and image. Just because we've entered another chapter in the book it doesn't mean the rest of the book isn't there. There are plenty of chapters that preceded this one and there will be many more to follow.

I haven't sold out. I wanted investment because it kept the club financially safe for now. I didn't want the hard work of players like Whittingham and Hudson who have been loyal flushed down the toilet after their dedication to the cause. Im not about to let a colour get in the way of two loyal people achieving what they set out to do. They are human after all. Imagine how crushing it would be if we went through and they couldn't finish the job? Whitts and Hudson love Cardiff and have said it is their home (we must appreciate that) so that in itself tells you just how much it means to them as well. If us going up in red means that they get to finally finish the job they have stuck around to do then red it is.

Anyone assuming I sold out for my own gain to see Prem teams is deluded.

1) I haven't got a season ticket as im in university so wont be able to renew for next year
2) I will most likely be on work experience abroad next year so won't be able to go to games either

The fact is, Premiership or Blue Square, I'll Be There! (as a supporter whether its at a game, on tv or radio depending on where i am, what i can afford etc.). :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: Would you swap?

Fri Jan 04, 2013 12:28 pm

the problem with stupid questions like this is that its not clear cut.


i want the team to play in blue, i want the team to get promoted.

Re: Would you swap?

Fri Jan 04, 2013 12:31 pm

I'm basically saying red in the prem or blue in the championship

Re: Would you swap?

Fri Jan 04, 2013 12:35 pm

SamCCFC1927 wrote:I'm basically saying red in the prem or blue in the championship



yes i know you are, but its an easy way of dividing fans, those who want blue look like idiots who dont want the club to have sucess, while those who pick red in the prem look like sell outs :roll:


its really not that simple.

For me, i would rather be blue, and then see where we would have been in the league, being red and top wouldnt have been an issue then.

Re: Would you swap?

Fri Jan 04, 2013 1:52 pm

we could have had the investment without the rebranding, the rebranding is in no way connected with the investment, it is just a show of strength "I can do what I want, I want red"...
Feck the red, feck the beermat and stick the rebrand where the sun never shines :ayatollah:

Re: Would you swap?

Fri Jan 04, 2013 1:52 pm

wdb2721 wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:100% would rather finish 7th in blue.


Madness!!! :roll:

Explain?

Re: Would you swap?

Fri Jan 04, 2013 1:54 pm

JINKS wrote:
BOWMAN wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:
CjBluebird17 wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:
MrEvans wrote:The club hasn't lost it's identity at all. We're still Cardiff City, we're still the Bluebirds. So what, our kit changed? So what our badge changed? The bluebird is still on it.

Finish 1st in red and clear our debt!

Our identity is our image. Our name is the only thing we still have. I doubt we'll be the bluebirds for much longer.


Can I just comment the fact that your upset about the colour change but why have an avatar of a player wearing the shirt?

Because they're the team I support.


But you dont want them to go up because the shirt is red :lol: Couldn't make it up.
Change your avatar mate ;)


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: what a tampon :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Misunderstood fool, just like him :lol:

Re: Would you swap?

Fri Jan 04, 2013 2:26 pm

wdb2721 wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:100% would rather finish 7th in blue.


Madness!!! :roll:


Do you really need me to expalin my comment!

Re: Would you swap?

Fri Jan 04, 2013 2:36 pm

wdb2721 wrote:
wdb2721 wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:100% would rather finish 7th in blue.


Madness!!! :roll:


Do you really need me to expalin my comment!

It's up to you, you think it's "madness" yet a lot of fans would agree with me.

Re: Would you swap?

Fri Jan 04, 2013 3:09 pm

JonCCFC wrote:
wdb2721 wrote:
wdb2721 wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:100% would rather finish 7th in blue.


Madness!!! :roll:


Do you really need me to expalin my comment!

It's up to you, you think it's "madness" yet a lot of fans would agree with me.


You would sacrifice promotion to the top flight which would probably see copius amounts of investment into the club and the city for finishing 1 place outside of the play offs. This red/blue divide has gone on too long, I follow Cardiff City not the colour red or blue. Unless they try to change the name of the club I have no qualms with what is happening at the club. Do you not think it is best to have a team to support or run the risk of the Malaysians walking away thus posibly leaving the club in financial ruin, leaving us with no club to follow. Which is what the likes of Sam and Ridsdale got us into and we are finally seeing investment coming to fruition on and off the pitch.

Don't get me wrong I admire you for sticking to your morals/beliefs, but to wish the club finished 7th in blue and not go up in red defeats the whole object of competition. I am in my 40th year of supporting city, attending games in Div 4 etc with a mere 4/500 (if lucky) on the bob bank huddled together underneath the tv gantry during the depths of cold dark winters. Travelling upto north yorkshire on a tuesday night just to see us play the likes of Darlington etc, which is where we would end up if lucky without the rebrand. I think I have done my fair share of following and for me I would love to see my beloved CARDIFF CITY play in the top flight in red or blue.

Re: Would you swap?

Fri Jan 04, 2013 3:17 pm

We are still Cardiff City FC

Re: Would you swap?

Fri Jan 04, 2013 5:33 pm

wdb2721 wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:
wdb2721 wrote:
wdb2721 wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:100% would rather finish 7th in blue.


Madness!!! :roll:


Do you really need me to expalin my comment!

It's up to you, you think it's "madness" yet a lot of fans would agree with me.


You would sacrifice promotion to the top flight which would probably see copius amounts of investment into the club and the city for finishing 1 place outside of the play offs. This red/blue divide has gone on too long, I follow Cardiff City not the colour red or blue. Unless they try to change the name of the club I have no qualms with what is happening at the club. Do you not think it is best to have a team to support or run the risk of the Malaysians walking away thus posibly leaving the club in financial ruin, leaving us with no club to follow. Which is what the likes of Sam and Ridsdale got us into and we are finally seeing investment coming to fruition on and off the pitch.

Don't get me wrong I admire you for sticking to your morals/beliefs, but to wish the club finished 7th in blue and not go up in red defeats the whole object of competition. I am in my 40th year of supporting city, attending games in Div 4 etc with a mere 4/500 (if lucky) on the bob bank huddled together underneath the tv gantry during the depths of cold dark winters. Travelling upto north yorkshire on a tuesday night just to see us play the likes of Darlington etc, which is where we would end up if lucky without the rebrand. I think I have done my fair share of following and for me I would love to see my beloved CARDIFF CITY play in the top flight in red or blue.

Yes I would sacrifice promotion to the top flight if it meant turning back to blue. I also follow Cardiff City and not a colour, that's not the point. So you don't care that our owners have sold our identity? Okay. If you think that the club wouldn't exist for much longer if we didn't rebrand then you're deluded. Take a look at Pompey and Rangers, they'd still be in a situation 10 times worse than ours if we didn't get rebranded, they're still here.

I'd rather have our identity and watch non-league football than to sell out and watch Premier League football. The fact that you say you've been following City for 40 years says it all, you've reached the point where you don't care what happens to the club as long as we get promoted to the Premier League. To me that's very sad. I've been following Cardiff for 8 years but that shouldn't make a difference. Success isn't everything. But anything for the Premier League, eh?

Re: Would you swap?

Fri Jan 04, 2013 5:34 pm

rb1976 wrote:We are still Cardiff City FC


In name only.

Re: Would you swap?

Fri Jan 04, 2013 5:56 pm

JonCCFC wrote:
MrEvans wrote:The club hasn't lost it's identity at all. We're still Cardiff City, we're still the Bluebirds. So what, our kit changed? So what our badge changed? The bluebird is still on it.

Finish 1st in red and clear our debt!

Our identity is our image. Our name is the only thing we still have. I doubt we'll be the bluebirds for much longer.


Kits change every year, yes the colour changed but we still play in blue?

The identity is our name, our players and and the club itself, not a logo or colour. Otherwise we've lost our identity more than once :lol: :lol:

Get behind the team, not the colour.

Re: Would you swap?

Fri Jan 04, 2013 6:05 pm

MrEvans wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:
MrEvans wrote:The club hasn't lost it's identity at all. We're still Cardiff City, we're still the Bluebirds. So what, our kit changed? So what our badge changed? The bluebird is still on it.

Finish 1st in red and clear our debt!

Our identity is our image. Our name is the only thing we still have. I doubt we'll be the bluebirds for much longer.


Kits change every year, yes the colour changed but we still play in blue?

The identity is our name, our players and and the club itself, not a logo or colour. Otherwise we've lost our identity more than once :lol: :lol:

Get behind the team, not the colour.

I know that kits change every year, that's not a problem. Blue is our away kit yes, but no one recognises a club through their away kit.

Of course our identity is our logo and colour, as well as our name :lol: Come on... don't lie to yourself. All clubs are recognised through their image, for example;

Celtic - green and white hoops
Man United - red
Man City - sky blue
Chelsea - blue
Newcastle - black and white stripes

That's a major part of a club's identity.

Also, I do get behind the team. Thanks. :ayatollah: