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Re: Chris Wood Eligibility For Leicester Today?

Wed Jan 02, 2013 9:06 am

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Emergency loan doesn't mean emergency loan really. You can sign any player during a loan window/transfer window as an emergency loan.

They only require minimal notice so he could be signed on loan today and then fully transfered tomorrow or at the end of the loan as they'll alreasy have his registration.[/quote]

My take on it is an emergency loan is one where a club has run out of options from their squad due to injury/illness, which they have to get authority from the FA/UEFA to proceed with such a deal. These loans are primarily for keepers as a team should have enough resource from their reserve/youth squad to cover outfield positions whom they can add to their league squad on an emergency basis.

Re: Chris Wood Eligibility For Leicester Today?

Wed Jan 02, 2013 9:17 am

wdb2721 wrote:quote]

Emergency loan doesn't mean emergency loan really. You can sign any player during a loan window/transfer window as an emergency loan.

They only require minimal notice so he could be signed on loan today and then fully transfered tomorrow or at the end of the loan as they'll alreasy have his registration.


My take on it is an emergency loan is one where a club has run out of options from their squad due to injury/illness, which they have to get authority from the FA/UEFA to proceed with such a deal. These loans are primarily for keepers as a team should have enough resource from their reserve/youth squad to cover outfield positions whom they can add to their league squad on an emergency basis.[/quote]

That's not how they work in our league though. In the prem that's the rule for keepers but in the football league any loan signing during the loan window is officially an emergency loan signing.

Re: Chris Wood Eligibility For Leicester Today?

Thu Jan 03, 2013 11:11 am

Emailed the football league about it and this is the response I got,

Thank you for your email.

The player you refer to signed on an Emergency Loan deal and the deadline for Emergency Loan registrations is three hours before kick-off.

Thank you for contacting The Football League.

Regards,

Andrew Pomfret Customer Services Officer The Football League Limited http://www.football-league.co.uk

Re: Chris Wood Eligibility For Leicester Today?

Thu Jan 03, 2013 11:19 am

HirwaunBluebird87 wrote:Emailed the football league about it and this is the response I got,

Thank you for your email.

The player you refer to signed on an Emergency Loan deal and the deadline for Emergency Loan registrations is three hours before kick-off.

Thank you for contacting The Football League.

Regards,

Andrew Pomfret Customer Services Officer The Football League Limited http://www.football-league.co.uk


What a fluffy rule the emergency loan is then.

Their own squad list shows Nugent as a striker, he started. Futacs and Waghorn are down as strikers and they were on the bench.

That's 3 main squad strikers available before you move to the reserves.

Re: Chris Wood Eligibility For Leicester Today?

Thu Jan 03, 2013 11:21 am

HirwaunBluebird87 wrote:Emailed the football league about it and this is the response I got,

Thank you for your email.

The player you refer to signed on an Emergency Loan deal and the deadline for Emergency Loan registrations is three hours before kick-off.

Thank you for contacting The Football League.

Regards,

Andrew Pomfret Customer Services Officer The Football League Limited http://www.football-league.co.uk

They have another 25 strikers. :lol: :lol:

Re: Chris Wood Eligibility For Leicester Today?

Thu Jan 03, 2013 2:21 pm

The key point is did Leicester conform to the rules?

Personally I cannot imagine them being crazy enough to do anything where they were uncertain that they were conforming.

Re: Chris Wood Eligibility For Leicester Today?

Thu Jan 03, 2013 2:26 pm

Griff wrote:The key point is did Leicester conform to the rules?

Personally I cannot imagine them being crazy enough to do anything where they were uncertain that they were conforming.


We have now narrowed it down to an Emergency Loan for 24 hours so that he could play. According to FL rules Emergency Loans at first team level are usually for Goalkeepers when all of a clubs goalkeepers are seen as unfit by a third party doctor.

If an Emergency Loan was therefore allowed for a striker, how could they get doctors notes for three strikers that then took the field on 1st January.

Re: Chris Wood Eligibility For Leicester Today?

Thu Jan 03, 2013 2:37 pm

Get a life you lot.

Contacting the league ffs :lol: :lol: :lol:

We are 12 points ahead of them anyway, if we blow that we dont deserve promotion.

Cheers

Mario

Re: Chris Wood Eligibility For Leicester Today?

Thu Jan 03, 2013 2:39 pm

Mario Polotelli wrote:Get a life you lot.

Contacting the league ffs :lol: :lol: :lol:

We are 12 points ahead of them anyway, if we blow that we dont deserve promotion.

Cheers

Mario


Wrong thread.

Re: Chris Wood Eligibility For Leicester Today?

Thu Jan 03, 2013 2:45 pm

Wayne S wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:Get a life you lot.

Contacting the league ffs :lol: :lol: :lol:

We are 12 points ahead of them anyway, if we blow that we dont deserve promotion.

Cheers

Mario


Wrong thread.


No it isnt. This is the Chris Wood thread right?

Re: Chris Wood Eligibility For Leicester Today?

Thu Jan 03, 2013 7:48 pm

Wayne S wrote:
Griff wrote:The key point is did Leicester conform to the rules?

Personally I cannot imagine them being crazy enough to do anything where they were uncertain that they were conforming.


We have now narrowed it down to an Emergency Loan for 24 hours so that he could play. According to FL rules Emergency Loans at first team level are usually for Goalkeepers when all of a clubs goalkeepers are seen as unfit by a third party doctor.

If an Emergency Loan was therefore allowed for a striker, how could they get doctors notes for three strikers that then took the field on 1st January.


Dont forget they also loaned Beckford out to Huddersfield, I am sure they would have a callback clause.

Re: Chris Wood Eligibility For Leicester Today?

Thu Jan 03, 2013 9:03 pm

Hi guys, Wood signed a pre-contract agreement originally but was signed on a 28 day emergency loan deal (requiring only 3 hours notice) which only lasted 1 day as his permanent transfer paperwork went through. He was not signed on a 1 day loan. As you can see from the football league e-mail, they cleared him to play. Everything was done completely within the rules. I do however agree that the emergency loan rules do make a bit of a mockery of the actual loan window but they're the rules and we're not the first club to utilise the rules in this way. I hope that clears things up for you

Re: Chris Wood Eligibility For Leicester Today?

Thu Jan 03, 2013 11:35 pm

LN68 wrote:Hi guys, Wood signed a pre-contract agreement originally but was signed on a 28 day emergency loan deal (requiring only 3 hours notice) which only lasted 1 day as his permanent transfer paperwork went through. He was not signed on a 1 day loan. As you can see from the football league e-mail, they cleared him to play. Everything was done completely within the rules. I do however agree that the emergency loan rules do make a bit of a mockery of the actual loan window but they're the rules and we're not the first club to utilise the rules in this way. I hope that clears things up for you


Don't get me wrong, kudos for utilising it in this way. Just surprised that it was not as well known. It's only the 'emergency' part of the situation that seems to be able to be flexed, what is deemed emergency?

Re: Chris Wood Eligibility For Leicester Today?

Thu Jan 03, 2013 11:39 pm

HirwaunBluebird87 wrote:Emailed the football league about it and this is the response I got,

Thank you for your email.

The player you refer to signed on an Emergency Loan deal and the deadline for Emergency Loan registrations is three hours before kick-off.

Thank you for contacting The Football League.

Regards,

Andrew Pomfret Customer Services Officer The Football League Limited http://www.football-league.co.uk


Cheers for taking the time to get us the answer HB :ayatollah:

Re: Chris Wood Eligibility For Leicester Today?

Fri Jan 04, 2013 8:58 am

Wayne S wrote:
LN68 wrote:Hi guys, Wood signed a pre-contract agreement originally but was signed on a 28 day emergency loan deal (requiring only 3 hours notice) which only lasted 1 day as his permanent transfer paperwork went through. He was not signed on a 1 day loan. As you can see from the football league e-mail, they cleared him to play. Everything was done completely within the rules. I do however agree that the emergency loan rules do make a bit of a mockery of the actual loan window but they're the rules and we're not the first club to utilise the rules in this way. I hope that clears things up for you


Don't get me wrong, kudos for utilising it in this way. Just surprised that it was not as well known. It's only the 'emergency' part of the situation that seems to be able to be flexed, what is deemed emergency?

As far as i'm concerned, an emergency loan should be only to cover injuries and suspensions but it seems to now just be a term applied to loaning a player outside of the loan transfer window. The question is, what is the point of the loan transfer window if clubs can sign players whenever they want on a non emergency basis under the emergency loan rules? I think the loan rules need rewriting or the loan window needs scrapping altogether as it seems to be pointless

Re: Chris Wood Eligibility For Leicester Today?

Fri Jan 04, 2013 9:56 am

Agree with Polo on this one - why are we sending emails to the FL. It just sounds like sour grapes as they got a decent player that perhaps we were interested in. There is no way Leicester would have played him if it hadn't been sanctioned previously.