Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:14 am
beddaubluebird wrote:You said 6! You were incorrect factually once again.
Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:15 am
Carpe Diem wrote:
So injured players now sit on the bench? So what if Chico was injured in the first minute, bearing in mind Williams was the only centre half you had in the subs? You don't put injured players on the bench you plank. So you've lost Williams for ONE PL all season where you didn't win![]()
16%
Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:17 am
Carpe Diem wrote:Castro wrote:Carpe Diem wrote:
On the bench for 1 of those 3 so not injured. 1 of the non starts was a win, leaving 1 game where he was injured where you lost. I thought the purpose of your argument was to blame your poor form on injured defenders; I'm just taking Williams out of it as in reality you can only point to 1 game where you could say him being injured affected the result.
Off now fella, enjoy your day.
Of course he was injured, otherwise he would have played you plank![]()
The purpose of my "argument" was to say Michu coming back wouldnt really do that much as our injuries are and have been mainly on the wing and in defence.
Keep up carps
So injured players now sit on the bench? So what if Chico was injured in the first minute, bearing in mind Williams was the only centre half you had in the subs? You don't put injured players on the bench you plank. So you've lost Williams for ONE PL all season where you didn't win![]()
16%
Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:17 am
Mario Polotelli wrote:
Not through Injury they havent (Davies has been an un used sub) and Chico has only missed 2.![]()
Canas also missed games not through injury but Leon getting selected ahead of him at the start of the season.
You can try twisting this way, that a way, this way, that a way Wizbit but your lies and exagerations are shining through dear boy
Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:19 am
Castro wrote:Rangel - missed 32% of our prem games 22% actually
Davies - missed 16% of our Prem games 14% actually
Chico - missed 16% of our Prem games 9% actually
Williams - missed 16% of our Prem games 14% actually
Vorm - missed 48% of our games 9% actually
Tiendalli - hasnt been fit enough to play after nagging injuries for what seems like all season. Hes been fit enough to play the 22% Rangel missed
Not to mention our defensive midfielder role in which we now have to play a center back Jordi Amat What? for one PL game, 4.54 %![]()
Now stop trolling theres a good lad.
Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:21 am
Mario Polotelli wrote:Carpe Diem wrote:Castro wrote:Carpe Diem wrote:
On the bench for 1 of those 3 so not injured. 1 of the non starts was a win, leaving 1 game where he was injured where you lost. I thought the purpose of your argument was to blame your poor form on injured defenders; I'm just taking Williams out of it as in reality you can only point to 1 game where you could say him being injured affected the result.
Off now fella, enjoy your day.
Of course he was injured, otherwise he would have played you plank![]()
The purpose of my "argument" was to say Michu coming back wouldnt really do that much as our injuries are and have been mainly on the wing and in defence.
Keep up carps
So injured players now sit on the bench? So what if Chico was injured in the first minute, bearing in mind Williams was the only centre half you had in the subs? You don't put injured players on the bench you plank. So you've lost Williams for ONE PL all season where you didn't win![]()
16%
How can their injuries "Mainly" be in defence when its the area that has made the most appearences for them![]()
The wing is justified as Hernandez has been out, and Dyer, but he has been caught out exagerating / lying to try and make his point (about not missing Michu). AGAIN!!!!
Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:21 am
Castro wrote:Mario Polotelli wrote:
Not through Injury they havent (Davies has been an un used sub) and Chico has only missed 2.![]()
Canas also missed games not through injury but Leon getting selected ahead of him at the start of the season.
You can try twisting this way, that a way, this way, that a way Wizbit but your lies and exagerations are shining through dear boy
Yes they have.
Every single one of our starting defensive unit of 6 have missed matches through injury.
This is significant and this is why the return of Michu makes little difference. Which lets not forget was the point in hand mr troll![]()
Now can we talk about why you said bony hasnt been injured and canas was 4th choice midielder?
Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:23 am
Mario Polotelli wrote:Castro wrote:Rangel - missed 32% of our prem games 22% actually
Davies - missed 16% of our Prem games 14% actually
Chico - missed 16% of our Prem games 9% actually
Williams - missed 16% of our Prem games 14% actually
Vorm - missed 48% of our games 9% actually
Tiendalli - hasnt been fit enough to play after nagging injuries for what seems like all season. Hes been fit enough to play the 22% Rangel missed
Not to mention our defensive midfielder role in which we now have to play a center back Jordi Amat What? for one PL game, 4.54 %![]()
Now stop trolling theres a good lad.
Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:25 am
Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:29 am
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Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:30 am
Castro wrote:Carpe Diem wrote:
So injured players now sit on the bench? So what if Chico was injured in the first minute, bearing in mind Williams was the only centre half you had in the subs? You don't put injured players on the bench you plank. So you've lost Williams for ONE PL all season where you didn't win![]()
16%
Players not fit enough to start, absolutely. Hardly a shocker![]()
Why are you saying how many we have lost?
Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:30 am
Mario Polotelli wrote:No we are never going to agree on percentages when you lie about them Roathie![]()
The defensive 7 unit. When the f**k did Malky take over from Laudrup
Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:33 am
Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:34 am
Carpe Diem wrote:Castro wrote:Carpe Diem wrote:
So injured players now sit on the bench? So what if Chico was injured in the first minute, bearing in mind Williams was the only centre half you had in the subs? You don't put injured players on the bench you plank. So you've lost Williams for ONE PL all season where you didn't win![]()
16%
Players not fit enough to start, absolutely. Hardly a shocker![]()
Why are you saying how many we have lost?
But fit enough to come on if needed, which could have been minute 1, so not injured. May have been rested but then that's a managerial decision.
So that's 2 games where he didn't feature on the team sheet, 1 of which you won with a clean sheet, so it had no bearing on the result The fact is Williams wasn't in the match squad for 1 game where you lost, so not really a major factor in your poor season. Keep up.
Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:36 am
Mario Polotelli wrote:Even excluding bench appearances you lied about the percentages Roathie.
As you were
Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:38 am
Castro wrote:Carpe Diem wrote:Castro wrote:Carpe Diem wrote:
So injured players now sit on the bench? So what if Chico was injured in the first minute, bearing in mind Williams was the only centre half you had in the subs? You don't put injured players on the bench you plank. So you've lost Williams for ONE PL all season where you didn't win![]()
16%
Players not fit enough to start, absolutely. Hardly a shocker![]()
Why are you saying how many we have lost?
But fit enough to come on if needed, which could have been minute 1, so not injured. May have been rested but then that's a managerial decision.
So that's 2 games where he didn't feature on the team sheet, 1 of which you won with a clean sheet, so it had no bearing on the result The fact is Williams wasn't in the match squad for 1 game where you lost, so not really a major factor in your poor season. Keep up.
Nope. If they arent fit enough to start then they are indeed not fit.
Again for the third time - what has the baring on the result got to do with anything? You seem to be having your own little argument here.
Let me tell you again....
Polo said "bet you arent glad Michu is out now" (i initially said it would probably be a blessing in disguise as it will give Bony a chance and Michu is wasted up front... Which of course proved correct)
My reply was "why? When most of our injury problems are in defence and the wings" (which I have just proved that the overwhelming injury list has been to defenders and wingers"
Simple as that
Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:39 am
Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:39 am
Carpe Diem wrote:
And I've proved that the Williams injury had little or no bearing on your poor results. Simple as that
Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:42 am
Mario Polotelli wrote:Every player has missed at least one game, and seeing as that there are more defenders in your squad than any other position then obviously if you are just counting single games as a period injury then every club in the land must have a defensive injury list![]()
so you agree with me that most of our injuries have been to our defence then![]()
Seeing as you want to take it back to the whole season then both De Guzman and Bony have missed more games than any of your defenders, excluding Vorm of course but its not like Michu is going to play in goals![]()
I dont even understand your point there![]()
And lets forget you said Williams, Davies and Rangel in "recent weeks" which I proved with stats another lie.
its not a lie at all, your deduction of recent weeks is different to mine.
However saying bony wasnt injured (even though you now say he was), saying canas was 4th choice captain and that Malkys team scored 0,7 a game is a lie isnt it? Tut tut![]()
Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:47 am
Castro wrote:Mario Polotelli wrote:Even excluding bench appearances you lied about the percentages Roathie.
As you were
Nope, I stand by them. They will all be there or there abouts and thus back up my point that all of them have missed games - thus proving my point most injuries have come in defence![]()
You lied about malkys percentage of team goals thou didnt you? And that canas was 4th choice captain didnt you? And that bony wasnt injured didnt you?
Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:47 am
Castro wrote:Carpe Diem wrote:
And I've proved that the Williams injury had little or no bearing on your poor results. Simple as that
who are you proving that to then? And more importantly..... why?
Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:48 am
Carpe Diem wrote:
You, because you love your stats yet can't work out percentages![]()
Here to help
Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:50 am
Mario Polotelli wrote:Castro wrote:Mario Polotelli wrote:Even excluding bench appearances you lied about the percentages Roathie.
As you were
Nope, I stand by them. They will all be there or there abouts and thus back up my point that all of them have missed games - thus proving my point most injuries have come in defence![]()
You lied about malkys percentage of team goals thou didnt you? And that canas was 4th choice captain didnt you? And that bony wasnt injured didnt you?
How can you stand by something that is mathematically inacurrate?![]()
Vorm has missed 9 out of 22 thats 41% not 48%. An exageration of some 17%.![]()
so 41% to 48% is 17% nowwhat a liar
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Rangel hasnt started 6 of 22 games thats 27% not 33%. An exageration of 22%.![]()
i think you mean 6%![]()
The other 3 I will leave you off as your maths have been woeful recently. Your claim Michu only playing a third (33%) up front last season being testament to this.
and i was spot on with the sentiment just like here - and it kills you![]()
Mow then... Canas 4th choice captain, malkys teams scoring 0.7 a game and bony not being injured?
What is your defence plaintiff?![]()
Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:53 am
Castro wrote:Mario Polotelli wrote:Every player has missed at least one game, and seeing as that there are more defenders in your squad than any other position then obviously if you are just counting single games as a period injury then every club in the land must have a defensive injury list![]()
so you agree with me that most of our injuries have been to our defence then![]()
Seeing as you want to take it back to the whole season then both De Guzman and Bony have missed more games than any of your defenders, excluding Vorm of course but its not like Michu is going to play in goals![]()
I dont even understand your point there![]()
And lets forget you said Williams, Davies and Rangel in "recent weeks" which I proved with stats another lie.
its not a lie at all, your deduction of recent weeks is different to mine.
However saying bony wasnt injured (even though you now say he was), saying canas was 4th choice captain and that Malkys team scored 0,7 a game is a lie isnt it? Tut tut![]()
Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:56 am
Castro wrote:Mario Polotelli wrote:Castro wrote:Mario Polotelli wrote:Even excluding bench appearances you lied about the percentages Roathie.
As you were
Nope, I stand by them. They will all be there or there abouts and thus back up my point that all of them have missed games - thus proving my point most injuries have come in defence![]()
You lied about malkys percentage of team goals thou didnt you? And that canas was 4th choice captain didnt you? And that bony wasnt injured didnt you?
How can you stand by something that is mathematically inacurrate?![]()
Vorm has missed 9 out of 22 thats 41% not 48%. An exageration of some 17%.![]()
so 41% to 48% is 17% nowwhat a liar
![]()
Rangel hasnt started 6 of 22 games thats 27% not 33%. An exageration of 22%.![]()
i think you mean 6%![]()
The other 3 I will leave you off as your maths have been woeful recently. Your claim Michu only playing a third (33%) up front last season being testament to this.
and i was spot on with the sentiment just like here - and it kills you![]()
Mow then... Canas 4th choice captain, malkys teams scoring 0.7 a game and bony not being injured?
What is your defence plaintiff?![]()
Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:57 am
Castro wrote:Carpe Diem wrote:
You, because you love your stats yet can't work out percentages![]()
Here to help
Says the man who got his wrong![]()
Hes replies have nothing to do with percentages - here to help
Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:00 am
Mario Polotelli wrote:Castro wrote:Mario Polotelli wrote:Every player has missed at least one game, and seeing as that there are more defenders in your squad than any other position then obviously if you are just counting single games as a period injury then every club in the land must have a defensive injury list![]()
so you agree with me that most of our injuries have been to our defence then![]()
Seeing as you want to take it back to the whole season then both De Guzman and Bony have missed more games than any of your defenders, excluding Vorm of course but its not like Michu is going to play in goals![]()
I dont even understand your point there![]()
And lets forget you said Williams, Davies and Rangel in "recent weeks" which I proved with stats another lie.
its not a lie at all, your deduction of recent weeks is different to mine.
However saying bony wasnt injured (even though you now say he was), saying canas was 4th choice captain and that Malkys team scored 0,7 a game is a lie isnt it? Tut tut![]()
Malkys team scored 13 goals in 18 games thats an average of 0.72222222 per game Roathie.
you get it right now after i corrected you![]()
I will let you off though as your maths has been exposed as woeful this past couple of weeks and this thread especially.
nothing to do with maths, they were guesses. The exact figure doesnt really matter, my point is all have been out injured meaning most of our injuries have been to our defence - keep up christopher![]()
And my point about De Guzman and Bony, two of the players who play in the positions Michu plays, have been out for more matches than any defensive individual (Vorm excluded) so your point about having Michu not making a difference as another position has been affected more is again, ie not true.
you asked me if i wished Michu was back.... Why would I? If I thought it was a blessing in disguise that he was out because it would give bony/pozuelo a chance then what has changed Columbo?![]()
Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:00 am
Carpe Diem wrote:
2 out of 22 looks like 9% to me but judging by your mathematical ability you would make it 48%
Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:02 am