OT: Henry Nowak handcuffing?

When the UTK demo was policed, the old bill had full riot gear on, however the ones policing the extreme left, antifa mob, where the majority of the arrests came from, had normal uniforms on. 2 tier policing
If a Reform councilor had urged his acolytes to cut the throats of leftwingers, he’d be in jail. 2 tier policing.
Not one Pakistani paedophile, has had motivated by racial prejudice, which would increase prison time,added to his charges. 2 tier policing.

It’s stark and has to stop.
Equality before the law, is the cornerstone of our democracy.

I’m confused now jock is the two tier policing in favour of the right as the lefts had more arrested?
Surely you not saying there’s two tier policing but arresting more of the ones you say they favour?
I mean cry me a river. What’s next the the traffic light turned red when I got there but they didn’t where the immigrant guy drove through. Bloody two tier policing. We sound like people who cry racist police when they arrest a black because it’s noting to do with the machete he’s carrying. We becoming a nation of snowflakes.

These people on this thread just want to discredit anyone who has a different view to them in their little club.

That's why they hounded out Sludge, because he had the ability to put his point across.

Didn't understand the uproar because of a word he used, it's a word we've all heard before as we're all adults.

TBH I think sludge might have gone a bit OTT with personal insults that didn’t have anything to do with people’s politics.

General gist of what he’s saying is right though and things said about “the left” in this thread are hardly diplomatic

When the UTK demo was policed, the old bill had full riot gear on, however the ones policing the extreme left, antifa mob, where the majority of the arrests came from, had normal uniforms on. 2 tier policing
If a Reform councilor had urged his acolytes to cut the throats of leftwingers, he’d be in jail. 2 tier policing.
Not one Pakistani paedophile, has had motivated by racial prejudice, which would increase prison time,added to his charges. 2 tier policing.

It’s stark and has to stop.
Equality before the law, is the cornerstone of our democracy.

I’m confused now jock is the two tier policing in favour of the right as the lefts had more arrested?
Surely you not saying there’s two tier policing but arresting more of the ones you say they favour?
I mean cry me a river. What’s next the the traffic light turned red when I got there but they didn’t where the immigrant guy drove through. Bloody two tier policing. We sound like people who cry racist police when they arrest a black because it’s noting to do with the machete he’s carrying. We becoming a nation of snowflakes.

The reason more extreme left were arrested is because they’re more violent. Also why was facial recognition used on the UTK demo but not on the antifa mob? I’ve given several examples of, what I believe to be, two tier policing. What have I said that’s untrue?

When the UTK demo was policed, the old bill had full riot gear on, however the ones policing the extreme left, antifa mob, where the majority of the arrests came from, had normal uniforms on. 2 tier policing
If a Reform councilor had urged his acolytes to cut the throats of leftwingers, he’d be in jail. 2 tier policing.
Not one Pakistani paedophile, has had motivated by racial prejudice, which would increase prison time,added to his charges. 2 tier policing.

It’s stark and has to stop.
Equality before the law, is the cornerstone of our democracy.

I’m confused now jock is the two tier policing in favour of the right as the lefts had more arrested?
Surely you not saying there’s two tier policing but arresting more of the ones you say they favour?
I mean cry me a river. What’s next the the traffic light turned red when I got there but they didn’t where the immigrant guy drove through. Bloody two tier policing. We sound like people who cry racist police when they arrest a black because it’s noting to do with the machete he’s carrying. We becoming a nation of snowflakes.

The reason more extreme left were arrested is because they’re more violent. Also why was facial recognition used on the UTK demo but not on the antifa mob? I’ve given several examples of, what I believe to be, two tier policing. What have I said that’s untrue?

I see you avoid the question I ask you.

To answer yours I can’t say your opinion is untrue can I? If that’s what you think then that’s what you think.

Why no mention of the white British man who killed a Saudi man in an unprovoked attack?

Two tier commenting from some posters.

His father has said "We do not want his death to be used to create further division, hatred or tension" so I'm going to follow those wishes.

I fully understand his father's wishes, but this case is 10 times worse than the George Floyd incident and the whole world took a knee for him and made him out to be a saint, even making statues and shrines for him. The guy was a drug crazed criminal who had been previously arrested 7 times and one occasion he held a gun to a pregnant woman's stomach.

Henry Nowak's murder and the zero publicity it had from the government and main stream media is shocking to say the least.

Its not up to him.

Its about the safety of others .

We can't turn a blind eye.

We should jail the families who harbour these knife weilding religious feck jobs .

Same with Taylor Swift dance show .

Andre Grande attack .

7/7

Rotherham Rape gangs

Enough is enough .

Farage is right [ cold rage is real ]

Farage is hated for telling the truth and has down for decades .

Worcestor, what data are you refering to? Britain doesn't publish crime stats based on ethnicity to my knowledge.
America does publish race based crime statistics and White Americans are overwhemingly the victim of violence

Worcestor, what data are you refering to? Britain doesn't publish crime stats based on ethnicity to my knowledge.
America does publish race based crime statistics and White Americans are overwhemingly the victim of violence

All police chiefs will tell you the majority of people arrested are not white British.

Still waiting for people to be in uproar about a white British man killing a Saudi man in an unprovoked attack.

These people on this thread just want to discredit anyone who has a different view to them in their little club.

That's why they hounded out Sludge, because he had the ability to put his point across.

Didn't understand the uproar because of a word he used, it's a word we've all heard before as we're all adults.

Ned you are missing the point, it is not the words he used, but the way he used them to abuse the members on this board

These people on this thread just want to discredit anyone who has a different view to them in their little club.

That's why they hounded out Sludge, because he had the ability to put his point across.

Didn't understand the uproar because of a word he used, it's a word we've all heard before as we're all adults.

Ned you are missing the point, it is not the words he used, but the way he used them to abuse the members on this board

Not missing the point at all. His words were correct.

I have watched the body cam footage and it's heartbreaking to see the complete lack of dignity afforded to that lad in his final moments.

I don't agree with a lot of what Farage says but we should be angry about this.

I can't say that anything the police did would change the outcome of what happened but their attitude was callous and dismissive when they were clearly told by the boy he had been stabbed.

I would like to see the rest of the family charged and jailed along with the police officers who I believe committed criminal negligence by their lack of response to being told the boy had been stabbed.

I have a son a few years older and it strikes a chord to see this footage and how badly that poor boy was treated by a police force that have been conditioned to put racism above everything else. Don't get me wrong racism is something I don't condone but nobody has ever died from a racist comment and the police should have dealt with this totally differently by prioritising the claim of. Being stabbed over being racially abused. .

Why no mention of the white British man who killed a Saudi man in an unprovoked attack?

Two tier commenting from some posters.

There are about 10 murders a week in the UK, why are you fixating on one Saudi? Was he cuffed by police as he bled out. Were the last words he heard on earth, being read his rights?
Henry Nowak’s appalling treatment is a direct result of Hampshire police’s ridiculous ideology and their direct instructions to treat people differently, based on race.
MLK said judge people on the content of their character, not the colour of their skin.

Why no mention of the white British man who killed a Saudi man in an unprovoked attack?

Two tier commenting from some posters.

There are about 10 murders a week in the UK, why are you fixating on one Saudi? Was he cuffed by police as he bled out. Were the last words he heard on earth, being read his rights?
Henry Nowak’s appalling treatment is a direct result of Hampshire police’s ridiculous ideology and their direct instructions to treat people differently, based on race.
MLK said judge people on the content of their character, not the colour of their skin.

I see you avoided my question mate. Difficult to answer it honestly without contradicting yourself isn’t. I get it as well I’m not surprised a lot of people follow what they spoon fed on TV/Social Media and follow and repeat the message with out realising they don’t actually belive it deep down.

Why no mention of the white British man who killed a Saudi man in an unprovoked attack?

Two tier commenting from some posters.

Did the police turn up and cuff the victim? An incredibly ill thought out comment

"producing equality of policing outcomes... does not mean treating everyone 'the same' or being 'colour blind'...". That's from the police action plan in Hampshire. It speaks for itself yet some think two tier policing isn't a thing

Why no mention of the white British man who killed a Saudi man in an unprovoked attack?

Two tier commenting from some posters.

There are about 10 murders a week in the UK, why are you fixating on one Saudi? Was he cuffed by police as he bled out. Were the last words he heard on earth, being read his rights?
Henry Nowak’s appalling treatment is a direct result of Hampshire police’s ridiculous ideology and their direct instructions to treat people differently, based on race.
MLK said judge people on the content of their character, not the colour of their skin.

I see you avoided my question mate. Difficult to answer it honestly without contradicting yourself isn’t. I get it as well I’m not surprised a lot of people follow what they spoon fed on TV/Social Media and follow and repeat the message with out realising they don’t actually belive it deep down.

What question have I avoided?

"producing equality of policing outcomes... does not mean treating everyone 'the same' or being 'colour blind'...". That's from the police action plan in Hampshire. It speaks for itself yet some think two tier policing isn't a thing

Yet more non white British people are arrested than white British.

But don't let the facts get in the way.

Why no mention of the white British man who killed a Saudi man in an unprovoked attack?

Two tier commenting from some posters.

There are about 10 murders a week in the UK, why are you fixating on one Saudi? Was he cuffed by police as he bled out. Were the last words he heard on earth, being read his rights?
Henry Nowak’s appalling treatment is a direct result of Hampshire police’s ridiculous ideology and their direct instructions to treat people differently, based on race.
MLK said judge people on the content of their character, not the colour of their skin.

I see you avoided my question mate. Difficult to answer it honestly without contradicting yourself isn’t. I get it as well I’m not surprised a lot of people follow what they spoon fed on TV/Social Media and follow and repeat the message with out realising they don’t actually belive it deep down.

What question have I avoided?

Respect to you, complete denial of seeing the questio, nice one.

What lead to it is some c**t stabbed a teenager in the chest. He the victim here it’s shameful that some are trying to claim they are victims of racist policing.

What a farcical straw man argument you make.
Henry Nowak was murdered by an evil piece of shit.The issue is how the police dealt with the crime.
Who’s claiming they are victims of racist policing?

So the issue of how they dealt with this one incident is two tie policing nationwide. The officer fucked up, he probably feels like shit. Unlike you he didn’t have the luxury of reviewing snippets of the night 6 months or so later.

If the officer knew what he knows now do you think he’d still handcuff or call an ambulance straight away and call for help?

Here it is jock hope you don’t (conveniently) miss it again.

What lead to it is some c**t stabbed a teenager in the chest. He the victim here it’s shameful that some are trying to claim they are victims of racist policing.

What a farcical straw man argument you make.
Henry Nowak was murdered by an evil piece of shit.The issue is how the police dealt with the crime.
Who’s claiming they are victims of racist policing?

So the issue of how they dealt with this one incident is two tie policing nationwide. The officer fucked up, he probably feels like shit. Unlike you he didn’t have the luxury of reviewing snippets of the night 6 months or so later.

If the officer knew what he knows now do you think he’d still handcuff or call an ambulance straight away and call for help?

Here it is jock hope you don’t (conveniently) miss it again.

Sorry I thought your post was rhetorical.
No it’s highly unlikely he would.

"producing equality of policing outcomes... does not mean treating everyone 'the same' or being 'colour blind'...". That's from the police action plan in Hampshire. It speaks for itself yet some think two tier policing isn't a thing

Yet more non white British people are arrested than white British.

But don't let the facts get in the way.

Are you talking pro rate?

What lead to it is some c**t stabbed a teenager in the chest. He the victim here it’s shameful that some are trying to claim they are victims of racist policing.

What a farcical straw man argument you make.
Henry Nowak was murdered by an evil piece of shit.The issue is how the police dealt with the crime.
Who’s claiming they are victims of racist policing?

So the issue of how they dealt with this one incident is two tie policing nationwide. The officer fucked up, he probably feels like shit. Unlike you he didn’t have the luxury of reviewing snippets of the night 6 months or so later.

If the officer knew what he knows now do you think he’d still handcuff or call an ambulance straight away and call for help?

Here it is jock hope you don’t (conveniently) miss it again.

Sorry I thought your post was rhetorical.
No it’s highly unlikely he would.

Exactly, the officer misjudged things and got it wrong nothing to do with two tier policing the same thing would have happened the family had been white and given the same story. It was tragically an awful situation that had nothing to do with two tier policing.

That’s my issue people are taking this tragic event and using it for something it wasn’t because it’s high profile.

What lead to it is some c**t stabbed a teenager in the chest. He the victim here it’s shameful that some are trying to claim they are victims of racist policing.

What a farcical straw man argument you make.
Henry Nowak was murdered by an evil piece of shit.The issue is how the police dealt with the crime.
Who’s claiming they are victims of racist policing?

So the issue of how they dealt with this one incident is two tie policing nationwide. The officer fucked up, he probably feels like shit. Unlike you he didn’t have the luxury of reviewing snippets of the night 6 months or so later.

If the officer knew what he knows now do you think he’d still handcuff or call an ambulance straight away and call for help?

Here it is jock hope you don’t (conveniently) miss it again.

Sorry I thought your post was rhetorical.
No it’s highly unlikely he would.

Exactly, the officer misjudged things and got it wrong nothing to do with two tier policing the same thing would have happened the family had been white and given the same story. It was tragically an awful situation that had nothing to do with two tier policing.

That’s my issue people are taking this tragic event and using it for something it wasn’t because it’s high profile.

The reason I disagree has been highlighted by Starvinmarvin above.
For me the race of victim or perpetrator isn’t the major issue in this, however people who claim leftwing credentials are using race, to silence open honest debate. My feelings on this would be the same irrespective of the victims race. I honestly believe Hampshire Police’s obsession with equality of outcomes, directly led to the obscene treatment of a dying boy.

Our institutions are now rife with anti White thinking, from universities blaming "Whiteness" from every social ill, to services ignoring industrial scale rape of White girls for decades. If anyone can't see this is walking around with blinkers on

"producing equality of policing outcomes... does not mean treating everyone 'the same' or being 'colour blind'...". That's from the police action plan in Hampshire. It speaks for itself yet some think two tier policing isn't a thing

Yet more non white British people are arrested than white British.

But don't let the facts get in the way.

Generally that's how it works when you commit a crime. Unless your suggesting the country is rife with white criminals that are just left alone

"producing equality of policing outcomes... does not mean treating everyone 'the same' or being 'colour blind'...". That's from the police action plan in Hampshire. It speaks for itself yet some think two tier policing isn't a thing

Yet more non white British people are arrested than white British.

But don't let the facts get in the way.

79% of those arrested are white
7% are black
Where do you get your facts from?

"producing equality of policing outcomes... does not mean treating everyone 'the same' or being 'colour blind'...". That's from the police action plan in Hampshire. It speaks for itself yet some think two tier policing isn't a thing

Yet more non white British people are arrested than white British.

But don't let the facts get in the way.

79% of those arrested are white
7% are black
Where do you get your facts from?

Going by what I heard a police chief say on the radio the other day while I was on the way up to Makerfield, to be fair I may have misheard him going by that.

"producing equality of policing outcomes... does not mean treating everyone 'the same' or being 'colour blind'...". That's from the police action plan in Hampshire. It speaks for itself yet some think two tier policing isn't a thing

Yet more non white British people are arrested than white British.

But don't let the facts get in the way.

79% of those arrested are white
7% are black
Where do you get your facts from?

Going by what I heard a police chief say on the radio the other day while I was on the way up to Makerfield, to be fair I may have misheard him going by that.

Bare statistics don’t really paint a true picture. I’d be interested to see social class factored in too.