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Re: " UNITED KINGDOM VOTES TO LEAVE THE EUROPEAN UNION "

Sun Jun 26, 2016 4:01 pm

murphy wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:
murphy wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
murphy wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:I'm voting for remain hopefully we will win.


Incase you didn't notice the vote was last week.



He's talking about new referendum that's been asked for in petition? :laughing6:


Does anyone seriously think there'll be another referendum?


You never know. ;)


Ok then if we lose next Friday we'll sign a petition to get the game replayed cos we wouldn't be happy with the result.


Can you actually do that?? because that would be brilliant if you could. :ayatollah:

Re: " UNITED KINGDOM VOTES TO LEAVE THE EUROPEAN UNION "

Sun Jun 26, 2016 4:11 pm

Sven wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
Sven wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
bluemun wrote:Scotland and the six counties(n.Ireland) voted to Remain, so the headline is wrong. Scottish independence could well follow, so there will be no UK to speak of. Pretty soon the many disaffected working class people in England and Cymru who voted Leave Will realise that nothing has changed. There will be more cuts, more austerity, more privatisation and under-investment in health and education. The rich will win out as ever. The EU never prevented workfare and zero hours contracts, but the corporations need them. The people lose whatever happens.


Scottish independence is inevitable and although independence was rejected in 2014 the 2015 general election the SNP returned 56 of the 59 Scottish seats.

There is now a significant change in circumstances as the Scottish people have voted to remain in the EU but will be taken out of it due to voters in England and Wales.

To me it seems perfectly reasonable for them to hold a second referendum on independence. I hope this time they take their opportunity.




Tony, some great posts from you today! :ayatollah:

I am an overall fan of the United Kingdom staying as a unit but this referendum has created massive divide lines based on geographical factors (Scotland and London being the most obvious)

London has long since set the rest of the nation adrift (ably assisted by many of our politicians from all Parties) and are somewhat reaping what they helped sow by ignoring/somewhat abandoning the rest of the UK in a massive show of self-interest over many years

Scotland are a different case and having been pretty loyal 'Brits' since the union began they are almost entitled to their opportunity to 'give independence a go' having massively contributed to the wealth of the whole country often at their own expense

I am not so sure whether this is the right timing for another 'independence' vote, as it would smack of a little sour grapes after they willingly participated in a perfectly democratic event that they would have willingly accepted had the status quo remained

However, I do believe that Nicola Sturgeon and her puppeteer (Alex Salmond) will actively seek a 'window of opportunity' to go for it again as soon as is reasonably practicable. I believe this time the majority will say "Yes please!"

It will be difficult for the UK Government to say no to them under current circumstances :thumbup:


Nicola Sturgeon is the Gareth Bale of politics as she makes a whole nation to punch above it's weight. She is very shrewd and is already preparing the legislation for a second referendum but will wait until the timing is right to call it (in other words when the polls indicate a clear majority in favour of independence.

I say good luck to them (the Scots) and I have every faith they will make a success of independence whether they are within the EU or not.




She is good, has a very good mentor in Alex Salmond and Scotland will soon have its opportunity to find out :thumbup:

All I can say is that they are far more likely to succeed than an independent Wales ;)

They are a pair of bastards, had Scotland become independent the whole country would be in the shite, the arse fell out the oil price and despite Salmond and Sturgeon claiming otherwise their brave new world was based on oil revenue. BTW Google Govanhill, it's in Sturgeons constituency and it's the future of an independent Scotland in microcosm.

Re: " UNITED KINGDOM VOTES TO LEAVE THE EUROPEAN UNION "

Sun Jun 26, 2016 4:34 pm

Jock wrote:
Sven wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
Sven wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
bluemun wrote:Scotland and the six counties(n.Ireland) voted to Remain, so the headline is wrong. Scottish independence could well follow, so there will be no UK to speak of. Pretty soon the many disaffected working class people in England and Cymru who voted Leave Will realise that nothing has changed. There will be more cuts, more austerity, more privatisation and under-investment in health and education. The rich will win out as ever. The EU never prevented workfare and zero hours contracts, but the corporations need them. The people lose whatever happens.


Scottish independence is inevitable and although independence was rejected in 2014 the 2015 general election the SNP returned 56 of the 59 Scottish seats.

There is now a significant change in circumstances as the Scottish people have voted to remain in the EU but will be taken out of it due to voters in England and Wales.

To me it seems perfectly reasonable for them to hold a second referendum on independence. I hope this time they take their opportunity.




Tony, some great posts from you today! :ayatollah:

I am an overall fan of the United Kingdom staying as a unit but this referendum has created massive divide lines based on geographical factors (Scotland and London being the most obvious)

London has long since set the rest of the nation adrift (ably assisted by many of our politicians from all Parties) and are somewhat reaping what they helped sow by ignoring/somewhat abandoning the rest of the UK in a massive show of self-interest over many years

Scotland are a different case and having been pretty loyal 'Brits' since the union began they are almost entitled to their opportunity to 'give independence a go' having massively contributed to the wealth of the whole country often at their own expense

I am not so sure whether this is the right timing for another 'independence' vote, as it would smack of a little sour grapes after they willingly participated in a perfectly democratic event that they would have willingly accepted had the status quo remained

However, I do believe that Nicola Sturgeon and her puppeteer (Alex Salmond) will actively seek a 'window of opportunity' to go for it again as soon as is reasonably practicable. I believe this time the majority will say "Yes please!"

It will be difficult for the UK Government to say no to them under current circumstances :thumbup:


Nicola Sturgeon is the Gareth Bale of politics as she makes a whole nation to punch above it's weight. She is very shrewd and is already preparing the legislation for a second referendum but will wait until the timing is right to call it (in other words when the polls indicate a clear majority in favour of independence.

I say good luck to them (the Scots) and I have every faith they will make a success of independence whether they are within the EU or not.




She is good, has a very good mentor in Alex Salmond and Scotland will soon have its opportunity to find out :thumbup:

All I can say is that they are far more likely to succeed than an independent Wales ;)

They are a pair of bastards, had Scotland become independent the whole country would be in the shite, the arse fell out the oil price and despite Salmond and Sturgeon claiming otherwise their brave new world was based on oil revenue. BTW Google Govanhill, it's in Sturgeons constituency and it's the future of an independent Scotland in microcosm.




Jock, I stand corrected :thumbup:

All I was trying to say is that she has played a blinder (with a very able Salmond pulling her strings) :ayatollah:

Re: " UNITED KINGDOM VOTES TO LEAVE THE EUROPEAN UNION "

Sun Jun 26, 2016 5:05 pm

Sven wrote:
Jock wrote:
Sven wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
Sven wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
bluemun wrote:Scotland and the six counties(n.Ireland) voted to Remain, so the headline is wrong. Scottish independence could well follow, so there will be no UK to speak of. Pretty soon the many disaffected working class people in England and Cymru who voted Leave Will realise that nothing has changed. There will be more cuts, more austerity, more privatisation and under-investment in health and education. The rich will win out as ever. The EU never prevented workfare and zero hours contracts, but the corporations need them. The people lose whatever happens.


Scottish independence is inevitable and although independence was rejected in 2014 the 2015 general election the SNP returned 56 of the 59 Scottish seats.

There is now a significant change in circumstances as the Scottish people have voted to remain in the EU but will be taken out of it due to voters in England and Wales.

To me it seems perfectly reasonable for them to hold a second referendum on independence. I hope this time they take their opportunity.




Tony, some great posts from you today! :ayatollah:

I am an overall fan of the United Kingdom staying as a unit but this referendum has created massive divide lines based on geographical factors (Scotland and London being the most obvious)

London has long since set the rest of the nation adrift (ably assisted by many of our politicians from all Parties) and are somewhat reaping what they helped sow by ignoring/somewhat abandoning the rest of the UK in a massive show of self-interest over many years

Scotland are a different case and having been pretty loyal 'Brits' since the union began they are almost entitled to their opportunity to 'give independence a go' having massively contributed to the wealth of the whole country often at their own expense

I am not so sure whether this is the right timing for another 'independence' vote, as it would smack of a little sour grapes after they willingly participated in a perfectly democratic event that they would have willingly accepted had the status quo remained

However, I do believe that Nicola Sturgeon and her puppeteer (Alex Salmond) will actively seek a 'window of opportunity' to go for it again as soon as is reasonably practicable. I believe this time the majority will say "Yes please!"

It will be difficult for the UK Government to say no to them under current circumstances :thumbup:


Nicola Sturgeon is the Gareth Bale of politics as she makes a whole nation to punch above it's weight. She is very shrewd and is already preparing the legislation for a second referendum but will wait until the timing is right to call it (in other words when the polls indicate a clear majority in favour of independence.

I say good luck to them (the Scots) and I have every faith they will make a success of independence whether they are within the EU or not.




She is good, has a very good mentor in Alex Salmond and Scotland will soon have its opportunity to find out :thumbup:

All I can say is that they are far more likely to succeed than an independent Wales ;)

They are a pair of bastards, had Scotland become independent the whole country would be in the shite, the arse fell out the oil price and despite Salmond and Sturgeon claiming otherwise their brave new world was based on oil revenue. BTW Google Govanhill, it's in Sturgeons constituency and it's the future of an independent Scotland in microcosm.




Jock, I stand corrected :thumbup:

All I was trying to say is that she has played a blinder (with a very able Salmond pulling her strings) :ayatollah:

She is a very clever politician who plays to the cheap seats. The SNP are a cult any criticism and your just talking Scotland down. Interesting that the SNP are now a leftwing party, when I was growing up they were derided as Tartan Tories, Plaid seem to be doing the sam to capture the disaffected Labour vote.

Re: " UNITED KINGDOM VOTES TO LEAVE THE EUROPEAN UNION "

Sun Jun 26, 2016 5:30 pm

Jock wrote:
Sven wrote:
Jock wrote:
Sven wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
Sven wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
bluemun wrote:Scotland and the six counties(n.Ireland) voted to Remain, so the headline is wrong. Scottish independence could well follow, so there will be no UK to speak of. Pretty soon the many disaffected working class people in England and Cymru who voted Leave Will realise that nothing has changed. There will be more cuts, more austerity, more privatisation and under-investment in health and education. The rich will win out as ever. The EU never prevented workfare and zero hours contracts, but the corporations need them. The people lose whatever happens.


Scottish independence is inevitable and although independence was rejected in 2014 the 2015 general election the SNP returned 56 of the 59 Scottish seats.

There is now a significant change in circumstances as the Scottish people have voted to remain in the EU but will be taken out of it due to voters in England and Wales.

To me it seems perfectly reasonable for them to hold a second referendum on independence. I hope this time they take their opportunity.




Tony, some great posts from you today! :ayatollah:

I am an overall fan of the United Kingdom staying as a unit but this referendum has created massive divide lines based on geographical factors (Scotland and London being the most obvious)

London has long since set the rest of the nation adrift (ably assisted by many of our politicians from all Parties) and are somewhat reaping what they helped sow by ignoring/somewhat abandoning the rest of the UK in a massive show of self-interest over many years

Scotland are a different case and having been pretty loyal 'Brits' since the union began they are almost entitled to their opportunity to 'give independence a go' having massively contributed to the wealth of the whole country often at their own expense

I am not so sure whether this is the right timing for another 'independence' vote, as it would smack of a little sour grapes after they willingly participated in a perfectly democratic event that they would have willingly accepted had the status quo remained

However, I do believe that Nicola Sturgeon and her puppeteer (Alex Salmond) will actively seek a 'window of opportunity' to go for it again as soon as is reasonably practicable. I believe this time the majority will say "Yes please!"

It will be difficult for the UK Government to say no to them under current circumstances :thumbup:


Nicola Sturgeon is the Gareth Bale of politics as she makes a whole nation to punch above it's weight. She is very shrewd and is already preparing the legislation for a second referendum but will wait until the timing is right to call it (in other words when the polls indicate a clear majority in favour of independence.

I say good luck to them (the Scots) and I have every faith they will make a success of independence whether they are within the EU or not.




She is good, has a very good mentor in Alex Salmond and Scotland will soon have its opportunity to find out :thumbup:

All I can say is that they are far more likely to succeed than an independent Wales ;)

They are a pair of bastards, had Scotland become independent the whole country would be in the shite, the arse fell out the oil price and despite Salmond and Sturgeon claiming otherwise their brave new world was based on oil revenue. BTW Google Govanhill, it's in Sturgeons constituency and it's the future of an independent Scotland in microcosm.




Jock, I stand corrected :thumbup:

All I was trying to say is that she has played a blinder (with a very able Salmond pulling her strings) :ayatollah:

She is a very clever politician who plays to the cheap seats. The SNP are a cult any criticism and your just talking Scotland down. Interesting that the SNP are now a leftwing party, when I was growing up they were derided as Tartan Tories, Plaid seem to be doing the sam to capture the disaffected Labour vote.




Even the thought of power corrupts minds, Jock! ;) :thumbup:

One of our own best examples (in Wales) is LORD Peter Hain; a complete 'leftie' until he found Blairism! :laughing6:

Re: " UNITED KINGDOM VOTES TO LEAVE THE EUROPEAN UNION "

Sun Jun 26, 2016 5:52 pm

Sven wrote:
Jock wrote:
Sven wrote:
Jock wrote:
Sven wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
Sven wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
bluemun wrote:Scotland and the six counties(n.Ireland) voted to Remain, so the headline is wrong. Scottish independence could well follow, so there will be no UK to speak of. Pretty soon the many disaffected working class people in England and Cymru who voted Leave Will realise that nothing has changed. There will be more cuts, more austerity, more privatisation and under-investment in health and education. The rich will win out as ever. The EU never prevented workfare and zero hours contracts, but the corporations need them. The people lose whatever happens.


Scottish independence is inevitable and although independence was rejected in 2014 the 2015 general election the SNP returned 56 of the 59 Scottish seats.

There is now a significant change in circumstances as the Scottish people have voted to remain in the EU but will be taken out of it due to voters in England and Wales.

To me it seems perfectly reasonable for them to hold a second referendum on independence. I hope this time they take their opportunity.




Tony, some great posts from you today! :ayatollah:

I am an overall fan of the United Kingdom staying as a unit but this referendum has created massive divide lines based on geographical factors (Scotland and London being the most obvious)

London has long since set the rest of the nation adrift (ably assisted by many of our politicians from all Parties) and are somewhat reaping what they helped sow by ignoring/somewhat abandoning the rest of the UK in a massive show of self-interest over many years

Scotland are a different case and having been pretty loyal 'Brits' since the union began they are almost entitled to their opportunity to 'give independence a go' having massively contributed to the wealth of the whole country often at their own expense

I am not so sure whether this is the right timing for another 'independence' vote, as it would smack of a little sour grapes after they willingly participated in a perfectly democratic event that they would have willingly accepted had the status quo remained

However, I do believe that Nicola Sturgeon and her puppeteer (Alex Salmond) will actively seek a 'window of opportunity' to go for it again as soon as is reasonably practicable. I believe this time the majority will say "Yes please!"

It will be difficult for the UK Government to say no to them under current circumstances :thumbup:


Nicola Sturgeon is the Gareth Bale of politics as she makes a whole nation to punch above it's weight. She is very shrewd and is already preparing the legislation for a second referendum but will wait until the timing is right to call it (in other words when the polls indicate a clear majority in favour of independence.

I say good luck to them (the Scots) and I have every faith they will make a success of independence whether they are within the EU or not.




She is good, has a very good mentor in Alex Salmond and Scotland will soon have its opportunity to find out :thumbup:

All I can say is that they are far more likely to succeed than an independent Wales ;)

They are a pair of bastards, had Scotland become independent the whole country would be in the shite, the arse fell out the oil price and despite Salmond and Sturgeon claiming otherwise their brave new world was based on oil revenue. BTW Google Govanhill, it's in Sturgeons constituency and it's the future of an independent Scotland in microcosm.




Jock, I stand corrected :thumbup:

All I was trying to say is that she has played a blinder (with a very able Salmond pulling her strings) :ayatollah:

She is a very clever politician who plays to the cheap seats. The SNP are a cult any criticism and your just talking Scotland down. Interesting that the SNP are now a leftwing party, when I was growing up they were derided as Tartan Tories, Plaid seem to be doing the sam to capture the disaffected Labour vote.




Even the thought of power corrupts minds, Jock! ;) :thumbup:

One of our own best examples (in Wales) is LORD Peter Hain; a complete 'leftie' until he found Blairism! :laughing6:

The working class
Can kiss my arse
I've got the bosses job at last