OT: YOUR SENNEDD ELECTION VOTE?

I'm not telling anyone how to vote, but it's deeply troubling that my fellow Welshman and Cardiffians are falling for the oldest grift in the book and voting for Reform.


Welshman fought to create the NHS. Farage want it's destroyed.

He gets £5mil backhander from a Cryptocurrency Thai business man and we are to believe that's ok.

He wanted us out of Europe, and that was a waste of time.

Reform is an English-centric party. They don't give a shit about Wales

Making you believe that it's your brown neighbours that are the problem and not the elite class who dodge tax and squeeze the working class for profits.

Don't be a fool and fall for this Reform bullshit. It's not a badge of honour for 'Getting Out Country Back" it's a clear sign that you've been duped into following a horrible greedy c**t.

Please Cardiff be better than this and flush these English Rich Pricks out of Wales. They are the ones that don't belong.

Brown neighbours?
Why are you bringing skin colour into it. It’s not about race. The dinghy jockeys are an issue, irrespective of race, they’re unvetted so we have no way of knowing who they are. A recently convicted gang rapist was fleeing a murder rap in Egypt FFS
Those who cling to Labour, because they believe they represent working class people, really should wake up and smell the coffee. Labour are the party of academia and the middle class, they despise working class people. Weirdly they do love the parasitic benefits class though.

Its all about immigration with you , you are utterly obsessed

Your last sentence sums up the crucial difference between old school leftists and the rest of us. For me life is about self reliance, for you it’s about state dependence. I grew up in a council house, in a shite scheme, people with your mindset believe I should have settled for that and never tried to improve my situation. Basically the poisonous politics of envy.

For you life is about being selfish

I grew up in a council house too , it was given back to the council when my old man got a job that enabled him to buy the family a private house listen to this idiot talking as if hes the new self made working class hero lol

I think your comments on here are the politics of spite and division , I have plenty of money thanks very much but if you do ever need a leg up I hope you get what you need to fund your alcohol and rent boy addiction xx

Rent boy addiction bwahahaha
Classic projection.
Instead of throwing insults, why don’t you point out what’s wrong in anything I posted.
1 most migrants will be a lifelong drain on the UK economy
2 migrants commit higher levels of crime, particularly crimes of sexual violence against women and girls
3 Islam is a supremacist, expansionist religion, that seeks to impose its values on the UK.
4 Our politicians and social commentators assured us, migrants would quickly assimilate and respect British cultural norms. The reverse is true.
5 The economy has been destroyed by a succession of 4th rate politicians and we simply cannot afford the cost of housing the dregs of the third world
6 We are paying the highest rate of tax since WW2, yet everything is shite, mass migration has exasperated that.

Nice one, Jock! The surest way to know you’ve sussed someone is to see responses like this one from the ‘Sludge’

Well jock has continually thrown the bollocks at me that I am some kind of social parasite so he can have it with both barrels and so can you , you dozy cnnt

I have spent half my working life advising people about homeless issues , helping young kids abused find flats and support them with daily living , socialising , working in various charities in bridgend , Cardiff ....wallich clifford , you might have heard of it ...probably not

You thick tw*t

There you go; reverting to type!

I don’t care what you do/did for a living. It’s just your opinion against many others and you’ve gotten quite arsey with a few who don’t share your views. I only care about the stuff you put out on here and (to clarify) I responded as a poster not a moderator. People with no other retort often use that diatribe and I’m used to it!

For the record, I’ve largely stayed away from the thread I started, as you helped deteriorate it, but I was looking and I almost commented a few times. Your last post to Jock was personal and bang out of order (IMHO), although I accept you got a bit back

Quote you: “Dozy C#nt!” and “Thick tw*t!”, am I?

Not quite but again, it’s just your opinion based on a desired perception; but so far from the truth, you could have booked a ride on Artemis II

Chris this Sludge used to post on MM's site, I dont know if he still does but Maybe he was thrown of with his OPINION that labour can do no wrong and winding up the posters, who knows

It's so obvious that this Sludge guy/woman/non denomination (who knows but he's so left wing all could be true) has totally been defeated by reasoned debate.

That's the problem with the far left......if you don't agree with their Marxist politics you are just scum, so need to be shouted down and silenced. Let's just see the voting results shall we......and then wait for the Labour excuses.

P.S. My Wife and I have just exercised our vote.........I urge anyone who has not yet, do so, whichever party you go for.

Chris this Sludge used to post on MM's site, I dont know if he still does but Maybe he was thrown of with his OPINION that labour can do no wrong and winding up the posters, who knows

He’s banned from the football one, he should be banned from talking politics too mind, he talks more sense on the football one hey sludge? Half your life working for homeless charities…..yeah rightio…a few years you mean?

It's so obvious that this Sludge guy/woman/non denomination (who knows but he's so left wing all could be true) has totally been defeated by reasoned debate.

That's the problem with the far left......if you don't agree with their Marxist politics you are just scum, so need to be shouted down and silenced. Let's just see the voting results shall we......and then wait for the Labour excuses.

P.S. My Wife and I have just exercised our vote.........I urge anyone who has not yet, do so, whichever party you go for.

He was a Corbyn lover, goes on and on about Labour for years to get the Tories out, now he can’t stand the same Labour government he and his ilk all voted for. Reform is the new enemy so now he’s voting PC. He’s barely ever worked got no kids and has never left Wales or seen the world, yet he knows everything you know. Hi sludge….

Your last sentence sums up the crucial difference between old school leftists and the rest of us. For me life is about self reliance, for you it’s about state dependence. I grew up in a council house, in a shite scheme, people with your mindset believe I should have settled for that and never tried to improve my situation. Basically the poisonous politics of envy.

For you life is about being selfish

I grew up in a council house too , it was given back to the council when my old man got a job that enabled him to buy the family a private house listen to this idiot talking as if hes the new self made working class hero lol

I think your comments on here are the politics of spite and division , I have plenty of money thanks very much but if you do ever need a leg up I hope you get what you need to fund your alcohol and rent boy addiction xx

Rent boy addiction bwahahaha
Classic projection.
Instead of throwing insults, why don’t you point out what’s wrong in anything I posted.
1 most migrants will be a lifelong drain on the UK economy
2 migrants commit higher levels of crime, particularly crimes of sexual violence against women and girls
3 Islam is a supremacist, expansionist religion, that seeks to impose its values on the UK.
4 Our politicians and social commentators assured us, migrants would quickly assimilate and respect British cultural norms. The reverse is true.
5 The economy has been destroyed by a succession of 4th rate politicians and we simply cannot afford the cost of housing the dregs of the third world
6 We are paying the highest rate of tax since WW2, yet everything is shite, mass migration has exasperated that.

Nice one, Jock! The surest way to know you’ve sussed someone is to see responses like this one from the ‘Sludge’

Well jock has continually thrown the bollocks at me that I am some kind of social parasite so he can have it with both barrels and so can you , you dozy cnnt

I have spent half my working life advising people about homeless issues , helping young kids abused find flats and support them with daily living , socialising , working in various charities in bridgend , Cardiff ....wallich clifford , you might have heard of it ...probably not

You thick tw*t

There you go; reverting to type!

I don’t care what you do/did for a living. It’s just your opinion against many others and you’ve gotten quite arsey with a few who don’t share your views. I only care about the stuff you put out on here and (to clarify) I responded as a poster not a moderator. People with no other retort often use that diatribe and I’m used to it!

For the record, I’ve largely stayed away from the thread I started, as you helped deteriorate it, but I was looking and I almost commented a few times. Your last post to Jock was personal and bang out of order (IMHO), although I accept you got a bit back

Quote you: “Dozy C#nt!” and “Thick tw*t!”, am I?

Not quite but again, it’s just your opinion based on a desired perception; but so far from the truth, you could have booked a ride on Artemis II

You are as full of it as jock

He gave it out , I gave it back

Chris this Sludge used to post on MM's site, I dont know if he still does but Maybe he was thrown of with his OPINION that labour can do no wrong and winding up the posters, who knows

Christ heres another idiot , making things up

It's so obvious that this Sludge guy/woman/non denomination (who knows but he's so left wing all could be true) has totally been defeated by reasoned debate.

That's the problem with the far left......if you don't agree with their Marxist politics you are just scum, so need to be shouted down and silenced. Let's just see the voting results shall we......and then wait for the Labour excuses.

P.S. My Wife and I have just exercised our vote.........I urge anyone who has not yet, do so, whichever party you go for.

You have been in the sun too long , plus alcohol

Chris this Sludge used to post on MM's site, I dont know if he still does but Maybe he was thrown of with his OPINION that labour can do no wrong and winding up the posters, who knows

He’s banned from the football one, he should be banned from talking politics too mind, he talks more sense on the football one hey sludge? Half your life working for homeless charities…..yeah rightio…a few years you mean?

You are a right two faced little ponce

It's so obvious that this Sludge guy/woman/non denomination (who knows but he's so left wing all could be true) has totally been defeated by reasoned debate.

That's the problem with the far left......if you don't agree with their Marxist politics you are just scum, so need to be shouted down and silenced. Let's just see the voting results shall we......and then wait for the Labour excuses.

P.S. My Wife and I have just exercised our vote.........I urge anyone who has not yet, do so, whichever party you go for.

He was a Corbyn lover, goes on and on about Labour for years to get the Tories out, now he can’t stand the same Labour government he and his ilk all voted for. Reform is the new enemy so now he’s voting PC. He’s barely ever worked got no kids and has never left Wales or seen the world, yet he knows everything you know. Hi sludge….

I will show you exactly where I have worked and when

Face tp Face

Have you got the bottle ?

It's so obvious that this Sludge guy/woman/non denomination (who knows but he's so left wing all could be true) has totally been defeated by reasoned debate.

That's the problem with the far left......if you don't agree with their Marxist politics you are just scum, so need to be shouted down and silenced. Let's just see the voting results shall we......and then wait for the Labour excuses.

P.S. My Wife and I have just exercised our vote.........I urge anyone who has not yet, do so, whichever party you go for.

He was a Corbyn lover, goes on and on about Labour for years to get the Tories out, now he can’t stand the same Labour government he and his ilk all voted for. Reform is the new enemy so now he’s voting PC. He’s barely ever worked got no kids and has never left Wales or seen the world, yet he knows everything you know. Hi sludge….

I will show you exactly where I have worked and when

Face tp Face

Have you got the bottle ?

Bring your packed lunch goats

We could go for a swim down the bay

Remember Rat Island ?

It's so obvious that this Sludge guy/woman/non denomination (who knows but he's so left wing all could be true) has totally been defeated by reasoned debate.

That's the problem with the far left......if you don't agree with their Marxist politics you are just scum, so need to be shouted down and silenced. Let's just see the voting results shall we......and then wait for the Labour excuses.

P.S. My Wife and I have just exercised our vote.........I urge anyone who has not yet, do so, whichever party you go for.

You have been in the sun too long , plus alcohol

Reasoned debate , on here ?

Feckin mass debate more like

Most of its made up on the back of a fag packet after a can of carlsberg special brew

Chris this Sludge used to post on MM's site, I dont know if he still does but Maybe he was thrown of with his OPINION that labour can do no wrong and winding up the posters, who knows

Rog, I was informed of this by a trusted source recently and it is seemingly the same character but called ‘Sludge Factory’

Seems he’s even more self-opinionated over there, where I’m told “he’s okay but loves to send out ‘spikey’ comments to get a response” and “the type who likes the sound of his own voice”

All I say is look at his last few posts (not too mention some infantile pm’s I’ve received) and the picture becomes clearer; another one who wants to serve it out but cannot take the returns!

Seems he’s right, we’re all wrong; period!

In fairness to Sludge, I think he has done Reform a big favour.

If that is the politics of formerly Labour, but now Plaid Cymru, I think it may have made up a few minds who may have been floating and unsure.

Cheers Sludge, I salute you and will be having a beer later watching the results.

Chris this Sludge used to post on MM's site, I dont know if he still does but Maybe he was thrown of with his OPINION that labour can do no wrong and winding up the posters, who knows

Rog, I was informed of this by a trusted source recently and it is seemingly the same character but called ‘Sludge Factory’

Seems he’s even more self-opinionated over there, where I’m told “he’s okay but loves to send out ‘spikey’ comments to get a response” and “the type who likes the sound of his own voice”

All I say is look at his last few posts (not too mention some infantile pm’s I’ve received) and the picture becomes clearer; another one who wants to serve it out but cannot take the returns!

Seems he’s right, we’re all wrong; period!

Trusted source

Fecking on the sauce more like

It's so obvious that this Sludge guy/woman/non denomination (who knows but he's so left wing all could be true) has totally been defeated by reasoned debate.

That's the problem with the far left......if you don't agree with their Marxist politics you are just scum, so need to be shouted down and silenced. Let's just see the voting results shall we......and then wait for the Labour excuses.

P.S. My Wife and I have just exercised our vote.........I urge anyone who has not yet, do so, whichever party you go for.

You have been in the sun too long , plus alcohol

Reasoned debate , on here ?

Feckin mass debate more like

Most of its made up on the back of a fag packet after a can of carlsberg special brew

Debate?
I listed my points and asked you to point out what’s wrong, you know, like a debate.
Sadly you tend to get internet tiger aggressive and hurl insults. So again I ask you to point out what’s wrong, with what I’ve posted

In fairness to Sludge, I think he has done Reform a big favour.

If that is the politics of formerly Labour, but now Plaid Cymru, I think it may have made up a few minds who may have been floating and unsure.

Cheers Sludge, I salute you and will be having a beer later watching the results.

Bollocks anyone who tells you they are thinking of voting reform is nailed on to nigel farages arse already

Dont get too pissed as the results are FRIDAY , not overnight

In fairness to Sludge, I think he has done Reform a big favour.

If that is the politics of formerly Labour, but now Plaid Cymru, I think it may have made up a few minds who may have been floating and unsure.

Cheers Sludge, I salute you and will be having a beer later watching the results.

Bollocks anyone who tells you they are thinking of voting reform is nailed on to nigel farages arse already

Dont get too pissed as the results are FRIDAY , not overnight

Sorry to piss on your chips Sludgemeister, I also take an interest in the UK.....the results will start coming in tonight as I sip my 20th beer. Cheers mate

Looks like you are as popular as ever on this site too sludge. Whatever next for you? You could pretend to be a decorator again?
That city and guilds you did back in 1983 came in handy after….and you never turned up to the decorator trade show at the CCS to tell us all about how great you were, strangely disappeared a month before it and didn’t re appear until a month after…

Changed my mind last minute. Labour voter for 22 years, but with it looking like it’s between plaid and reform I went for plaid as I didn’t want labour to be a wasted vote. Concidered plaid before but same kind of reasoning didn’t want a wasted vote. Probably time for a change anyway as labour could be getting to comfortable, though not an extreme change like reform

In fairness to Sludge, I think he has done Reform a big favour.

If that is the politics of formerly Labour, but now Plaid Cymru, I think it may have made up a few minds who may have been floating and unsure.

Cheers Sludge, I salute you and will be having a beer later watching the results.

Bollocks anyone who tells you they are thinking of voting reform is nailed on to nigel farages arse already

Dont get too pissed as the results are FRIDAY , not overnight

On 2 occasions I’ve offered you the chance to point out anything I’ve posted that’s untrue. Again you prefer childlike insults to adult debate.

Looks like you are as popular as ever on this site too sludge. Whatever next for you? You could pretend to be a decorator again?
That city and guilds you did back in 1983 came in handy after….and you never turned up to the decorator trade show at the CCS to tell us all about how great you were, strangely disappeared a month before it and didn’t re appear until a month after…

Now stop your lying

It was 1998 and I have all my papers and cards ...unlike you , cowboy

You said you slapped on 2 coats of crown fast flow , using the first one as an undercoat

Cowboy decorating

Crown have an undercoat specially for the process

I told you I would meet you at the trade event at the crown stall if you wanted to be proved wrong and you could argue with the manufacturer

You never followed it up






I have already sent you a PM which you havnt opened


You clown

In fairness to Sludge, I think he has done Reform a big favour.

If that is the politics of formerly Labour, but now Plaid Cymru, I think it may have made up a few minds who may have been floating and unsure.

Cheers Sludge, I salute you and will be having a beer later watching the results.

Bollocks anyone who tells you they are thinking of voting reform is nailed on to nigel farages arse already

Dont get too pissed as the results are FRIDAY , not overnight

On 2 occasions I’ve offered you the chance to point out anything I’ve posted that’s untrue. Again you prefer childlike insults to adult debate.

Social Parasite lol

Thats for starters

Changed my mind last minute. Labour voter for 22 years, but with it looking like it’s between plaid and reform I went for plaid as I didn’t want labour to be a wasted vote. Concidered plaid before but same kind of reasoning didn’t want a wasted vote. Probably time for a change anyway as labour could be getting to comfortable, though not an extreme change like reform

Nice one

A woman I pleaded with not to vote labour and back plaid to defeat reform voted labour , completely wasted vote

In fairness to Sludge, I think he has done Reform a big favour.

If that is the politics of formerly Labour, but now Plaid Cymru, I think it may have made up a few minds who may have been floating and unsure.

Cheers Sludge, I salute you and will be having a beer later watching the results.

Bollocks anyone who tells you they are thinking of voting reform is nailed on to nigel farages arse already

Dont get too pissed as the results are FRIDAY , not overnight

Sorry to piss on your chips Sludgemeister, I also take an interest in the UK.....the results will start coming in tonight as I sip my 20th beer. Cheers mate

Oh changing the goalposts ?

Ok well I think labour will get hammered all over the country and for now I couldnt care less

I have voted to stop reform not support Labour

It's so obvious that this Sludge guy/woman/non denomination (who knows but he's so left wing all could be true) has totally been defeated by reasoned debate.

That's the problem with the far left......if you don't agree with their Marxist politics you are just scum, so need to be shouted down and silenced. Let's just see the voting results shall we......and then wait for the Labour excuses.

P.S. My Wife and I have just exercised our vote.........I urge anyone who has not yet, do so, whichever party you go for.

You have been in the sun too long , plus alcohol

Reasoned debate , on here ?

Feckin mass debate more like

Most of its made up on the back of a fag packet after a can of carlsberg special brew

Debate?
I listed my points and asked you to point out what’s wrong, you know, like a debate.
Sadly you tend to get internet tiger aggressive and hurl insults. So again I ask you to point out what’s wrong, with what I’ve posted

You started the fake insults jock , you know it and you have continued

Play nice and following the results we can debate

You offer absolutely nothing but meaningless slabberings. I listed 6 problems with illegal immigration. Tell me where and why I’m wrong

If this puts the final nail in Starmer's coffin then I can live with the inevitable huge losses my party, Labour, have all over the country.

There weren't elections in my area and, although it's none of my business what Wales does, I hope those that normally vote Labour have voted for Plaid to stop Reform.

If this puts the final nail in Starmer's coffin then I can live with the inevitable huge losses my party, Labour, have all over the country.

There weren't elections in my area and, although it's none of my business what Wales does, I hope those that normally vote Labour have voted for Plaid to stop Reform.

No we have voted Reform .ha.