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Re: CARDIFF C FANS TO MARCH AGAINST REBRAND SAT 22nd MARCH 2

Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:42 pm

For those supporters like me who want to see Cardiff stay in the Premier League, I think the timing of this march is terrible, along with action inside the ground at 19 mins 27 secs during the Liverpool game. In order for us to have any chance of surviving relegation we need to stick together as a team and supporters.
Part of that means generating an intimidating atmosphere together at each home game, to make an impact on the opposition, and that won't happen if we have the Blue shirt faction versus Staying in the Premiership rivalry amongst home fans - and there will be because I've seen it happen at previous games.
I'm not saying don't voice your feelings, it's just that before and during an important game that we want to try and get something out of couldn't be worse timing.
My preference would be to delay any protest until we are mathematically certain of staying-up or going-down.
However, if you'd prefer us to be relegated because making a protest about playing in blue is more important, then proceed with the protest.
Part of the reason I say that is because several fans I've spoken to (not all admittedly), say they'd prefer us to pay in Blue at any cost, even if it means us dropping down the leagues, (and a couple said even if it meant playing Conference football).
I respect their opinion, as they are Cardiff fans, but I've spent over 40 years supporting CCFC, hoping to see them reach the Premiership one day, and I'd hoped that once we reached it, we wouldn't be a one season wonder, and we'd be able to consolidate, like Swansea.
And for those of us who would prefer CCFC to try and stay in the Premier League, I've also been impressed by the views of Danny Murphy, who's been there and done it with Fulham in 2007, and his 5 tips for avoiding relegation. The full article is here - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26473475 but tip no 4 is 'Minimise off the field upheaval'. Having a protest before and during a game will have the opposite effect.
Finally, I know there's a lot of anger directed at Vincent Tan at the way he has acted, but he is not Cardiff City, and Cardiff City will be around long after he goes. I think this protest will hurt Cardiff City in the longer run at least as much as it will hurt Vincent Tan..

Re: CARDIFF C FANS TO MARCH AGAINST REBRAND SAT 22nd MARCH 2

Tue Mar 18, 2014 3:15 am

sfblue11 wrote:For those supporters like me who want to see Cardiff stay in the Premier League, I think the timing of this march is terrible, along with action inside the ground at 19 mins 27 secs during the Liverpool game. In order for us to have any chance of surviving relegation we need to stick together as a team and supporters.
Part of that means generating an intimidating atmosphere together at each home game, to make an impact on the opposition, and that won't happen if we have the Blue shirt faction versus Staying in the Premiership rivalry amongst home fans - and there will be because I've seen it happen at previous games.
I'm not saying don't voice your feelings, it's just that before and during an important game that we want to try and get something out of couldn't be worse timing.
My preference would be to delay any protest until we are mathematically certain of staying-up or going-down.
However, if you'd prefer us to be relegated because making a protest about playing in blue is more important, then proceed with the protest.
Part of the reason I say that is because several fans I've spoken to (not all admittedly), say they'd prefer us to pay in Blue at any cost, even if it means us dropping down the leagues, (and a couple said even if it meant playing Conference football).
I respect their opinion, as they are Cardiff fans, but I've spent over 40 years supporting CCFC, hoping to see them reach the Premiership one day, and I'd hoped that once we reached it, we wouldn't be a one season wonder, and we'd be able to consolidate, like Swansea.
And for those of us who would prefer CCFC to try and stay in the Premier League, I've also been impressed by the views of Danny Murphy, who's been there and done it with Fulham in 2007, and his 5 tips for avoiding relegation. The full article is here - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26473475 but tip no 4 is 'Minimise off the field upheaval'. Having a protest before and during a game will have the opposite effect.
Finally, I know there's a lot of anger directed at Vincent Tan at the way he has acted, but he is not Cardiff City, and Cardiff City will be around long after he goes. I think this protest will hurt Cardiff City in the longer run at least as much as it will hurt Vincent Tan..


:thumbup: this is exactly my opinion, and i have been writing this here before, but Get only a lot of stupid comments back. My friends in Wales have the same opinion as you here and they have also supported cardiff in 40 years.
90 0/0 of the fans thinks the same more or less, but its more the other 10 0/0 Thats here on the forum I think.
In 1990 about i saw cardiff in third division, as 2 nd league today, with 3-4000 people and shit football.
On saturday I will see Them vs Liverpool in PL together with 27000 people! Fantastic.
For us the football means much more, for others colours means all.
OGS Asked all involved parts to concentrate on the football rest of the seson, and just stay behind the players. Then take the rebrand fight after the season, but no 10 0/0 want listen to anything in this matter. It is a pity for a great football club.
Chanting Tan is a wanker every 5 minutes, doesnt help either. Noone are unsturbed by the protests, for sure not the manager and the players, Even if they will have to say so. :ole: :ayatollah:

Re: CARDIFF C FANS TO MARCH AGAINST REBRAND SAT 22nd MARCH 2

Tue Mar 18, 2014 12:55 pm

sfblue11 wrote:For those supporters like me who want to see Cardiff stay in the Premier League, I think the timing of this march is terrible, along with action inside the ground at 19 mins 27 secs during the Liverpool game. In order for us to have any chance of surviving relegation we need to stick together as a team and supporters.
Part of that means generating an intimidating atmosphere together at each home game, to make an impact on the opposition, and that won't happen if we have the Blue shirt faction versus Staying in the Premiership rivalry amongst home fans - and there will be because I've seen it happen at previous games.
I'm not saying don't voice your feelings, it's just that before and during an important game that we want to try and get something out of couldn't be worse timing.
My preference would be to delay any protest until we are mathematically certain of staying-up or going-down.
However, if you'd prefer us to be relegated because making a protest about playing in blue is more important, then proceed with the protest.
Part of the reason I say that is because several fans I've spoken to (not all admittedly), say they'd prefer us to pay in Blue at any cost, even if it means us dropping down the leagues, (and a couple said even if it meant playing Conference football).
I respect their opinion, as they are Cardiff fans, but I've spent over 40 years supporting CCFC, hoping to see them reach the Premiership one day, and I'd hoped that once we reached it, we wouldn't be a one season wonder, and we'd be able to consolidate, like Swansea.
And for those of us who would prefer CCFC to try and stay in the Premier League, I've also been impressed by the views of Danny Murphy, who's been there and done it with Fulham in 2007, and his 5 tips for avoiding relegation. The full article is here - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26473475 but tip no 4 is 'Minimise off the field upheaval'. Having a protest before and during a game will have the opposite effect.
Finally, I know there's a lot of anger directed at Vincent Tan at the way he has acted, but he is not Cardiff City, and Cardiff City will be around long after he goes. I think this protest will hurt Cardiff City in the longer run at least as much as it will hurt Vincent Tan..


couldn't DISAGREE more. The best home atmosphere we have had this season was Man City and the crowd were fired up as we had just come off the Protest March. Also I can guarantee there will be another FANTASTIC atmosphere this Saturday and the We'll Always Be Blue will be sung louder than ever before. Face it, we are never going to stop until we get back our Blue and Our Badge. Blue Army! :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: CARDIFF C FANS TO MARCH AGAINST REBRAND SAT 22nd MARCH 2

Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:59 pm

The atmosphere may depend on where you are in the ground - it may be like you say in the Canton End, but where I sit in the Ninian Stand, there are a few people who are already fed-up with the antics of the Blue brigade, damaging the team, and haven't been afraid to tell them, so that won't help the atmosphere.
It's not that most people wouldn't welcome a return to Blue, but that at the moment we see Premier League survival as a more important issue..
And for that we need to be together..
Having this March on Saturday before and during a crucial game will only divide fans more, not unite them..

Re: CARDIFF C FANS TO MARCH AGAINST REBRAND SAT 22nd MARCH 2

Tue Mar 18, 2014 6:11 pm

sfblue11 wrote:The atmosphere may depend on where you are in the ground - it may be like you say in the Canton End, but where I sit in the Ninian Stand, there are a few people who are already fed-up with the antics of the Blue brigade, damaging the team, and haven't been afraid to tell them, so that won't help the atmosphere.
It's not that most people wouldn't welcome a return to Blue, but that at the moment we see Premier League survival as a more important issue..
And for that we need to be together..
Having this March on Saturday before and during a crucial game will only divide fans more, not unite them..


Probably a good thing that you stay in the Ninian because The Canton is Blue and I don't think you would last very long in there.

Re: CARDIFF C FANS TO MARCH AGAINST REBRAND SAT 22nd MARCH 2

Tue Mar 18, 2014 6:49 pm

Yeah..well done, that's exactly the type of fans togetherness we are going to need on Saturday...Canton stand versus Ninian Stand...Championship here we come... :sad7:

Re: CARDIFF C FANS TO MARCH AGAINST REBRAND SAT 22nd MARCH 2

Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:21 pm

TERRYB wrote:
sfblue11 wrote:The atmosphere may depend on where you are in the ground - it may be like you say in the Canton End, but where I sit in the Ninian Stand, there are a few people who are already fed-up with the antics of the Blue brigade, damaging the team, and haven't been afraid to tell them, so that won't help the atmosphere.
It's not that most people wouldn't welcome a return to Blue, but that at the moment we see Premier League survival as a more important issue..
And for that we need to be together..
Having this March on Saturday before and during a crucial game will only divide fans more, not unite them..


Probably a good thing that you stay in the Ninian because The Canton is Blue and I don't think you would last very long in there.

Your the worst kind of fan terry

Re: CARDIFF C FANS TO MARCH AGAINST REBRAND SAT 22nd MARCH 2

Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:56 pm

redordead wrote:
TERRYB wrote:
sfblue11 wrote:The atmosphere may depend on where you are in the ground - it may be like you say in the Canton End, but where I sit in the Ninian Stand, there are a few people who are already fed-up with the antics of the Blue brigade, damaging the team, and haven't been afraid to tell them, so that won't help the atmosphere.
It's not that most people wouldn't welcome a return to Blue, but that at the moment we see Premier League survival as a more important issue..
And for that we need to be together..
Having this March on Saturday before and during a crucial game will only divide fans more, not unite them..


Probably a good thing that you stay in the Ninian because The Canton is Blue and I don't think you would last very long in there.

Your the worst kind of fan terry

So says the City fan with user name redordead and where will you be when we are marching for our Blue and Badge and our history this Saturday? Prob sat by your computer.All I ever see from you is criticism of our fans who want over a hundred years of history and identity to be restored. We will never give up the fight !

Re: CARDIFF C FANS TO MARCH AGAINST REBRAND SAT 22nd MARCH 2

Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:29 am

redordead wrote:
TERRYB wrote:
sfblue11 wrote:The atmosphere may depend on where you are in the ground - it may be like you say in the Canton End, but where I sit in the Ninian Stand, there are a few people who are already fed-up with the antics of the Blue brigade, damaging the team, and haven't been afraid to tell them, so that won't help the atmosphere.
It's not that most people wouldn't welcome a return to Blue, but that at the moment we see Premier League survival as a more important issue..
And for that we need to be together..
Having this March on Saturday before and during a crucial game will only divide fans more, not unite them..


Probably a good thing that you stay in the Ninian because The Canton is Blue and I don't think you would last very long in there.

Your the worst kind of fan terry

He and others should be banned as a hooligans that only making trouble , and probebly dont interested in the play of football.

Re: CARDIFF C FANS TO MARCH AGAINST REBRAND SAT 22nd MARCH 2

Wed Mar 19, 2014 8:17 am

Golden cheetah wrote:He and others should be banned as a hooligans that only making trouble , and probebly dont interested in the play of football.


Bore off, you aren't even a Cardiff fan.

Re: CARDIFF C FANS TO MARCH AGAINST REBRAND SAT 22nd MARCH 2

Wed Mar 19, 2014 8:23 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:
Golden cheetah wrote:He and others should be banned as a hooligans that only making trouble , and probebly dont interested in the play of football.


Bore off, you aren't even a Cardiff fan.


I have been a cardiff fan from before you were born little prick. You are a lunatics fan that should have been banned,
No brain no pain Thats you. Try and Get a job instead, boy.

Re: CARDIFF C FANS TO MARCH AGAINST REBRAND SAT 22nd MARCH 2

Wed Mar 19, 2014 8:32 am

Of course. :laughing5:

Re: CARDIFF C FANS TO MARCH AGAINST REBRAND SAT 22nd MARCH 2

Wed Mar 19, 2014 9:39 am

redordead wrote:
TERRYB wrote:
sfblue11 wrote:The atmosphere may depend on where you are in the ground - it may be like you say in the Canton End, but where I sit in the Ninian Stand, there are a few people who are already fed-up with the antics of the Blue brigade, damaging the team, and haven't been afraid to tell them, so that won't help the atmosphere.
It's not that most people wouldn't welcome a return to Blue, but that at the moment we see Premier League survival as a more important issue..
And for that we need to be together..
Having this March on Saturday before and during a crucial game will only divide fans more, not unite them..


Probably a good thing that you stay in the Ninian because The Canton is Blue and I don't think you would last very long in there.

Your the worst kind of fan terry


Why is he the worst kind of fan ?

Re: CARDIFF C FANS TO MARCH AGAINST REBRAND SAT 22nd MARCH 2

Wed Mar 19, 2014 9:39 am

sfblue11 wrote:Yeah..well done, that's exactly the type of fans togetherness we are going to need on Saturday...Canton stand versus Ninian Stand...Championship here we come... :sad7:


Oh well , Championship here we come :ayatollah:

Re: CARDIFF C FANS TO MARCH AGAINST REBRAND SAT 22nd MARCH 2

Wed Mar 19, 2014 11:34 am

sfblue11 wrote:The atmosphere may depend on where you are in the ground - it may be like you say in the Canton End, but where I sit in the Ninian Stand, there are a few people who are already fed-up with the antics of the Blue brigade, damaging the team, and haven't been afraid to tell them, so that won't help the atmosphere.
It's not that most people wouldn't welcome a return to Blue, but that at the moment we see Premier League survival as a more important issue..
And for that we need to be together..
Having this March on Saturday before and during a crucial game will only divide fans more, not unite them..

I can't understand that comment the "blue brigade" most fans want blue largely supported by the trusts results .I will never knock anyone if they wear a red top or anything with the current badge but to suggest about the antics of the fans who care about their heritage and history is a bit poor. If they are having a go at people wearing red that's not right either, but how does fans singing about being blue damage the team do you know if this is true. I would say the chant usually rescues the atmosphere when it starts to go limp.

Re: CARDIFF C FANS TO MARCH AGAINST REBRAND SAT 22nd MARCH 2

Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:00 pm

cendl blue wrote:
sfblue11 wrote:The atmosphere may depend on where you are in the ground - it may be like you say in the Canton End, but where I sit in the Ninian Stand, there are a few people who are already fed-up with the antics of the Blue brigade, damaging the team, and haven't been afraid to tell them, so that won't help the atmosphere.
It's not that most people wouldn't welcome a return to Blue, but that at the moment we see Premier League survival as a more important issue..
And for that we need to be together..
Having this March on Saturday before and during a crucial game will only divide fans more, not unite them..

I can't understand that comment the "blue brigade" most fans want blue largely supported by the trusts results .I will never knock anyone if they wear a red top or anything with the current badge but to suggest about the antics of the fans who care about their heritage and history is a bit poor. If they are having a go at people wearing red that's not right either, but how does fans singing about being blue damage the team do you know if this is true. I would say the chant usually rescues the atmosphere when it starts to go limp.

i agree,we will always be blue does lift the atmosphere, but there are chants that have the exact opposite effect..

Re: CARDIFF C FANS TO MARCH AGAINST REBRAND SAT 22nd MARCH 2

Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:12 pm

Of course chanting about off field issues will distract the players and cheapen the atmosphere.

Re: CARDIFF C FANS TO MARCH AGAINST REBRAND SAT 22nd MARCH 2

Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:13 pm

soulofthesea wrote:
cendl blue wrote:
sfblue11 wrote:The atmosphere may depend on where you are in the ground - it may be like you say in the Canton End, but where I sit in the Ninian Stand, there are a few people who are already fed-up with the antics of the Blue brigade, damaging the team, and haven't been afraid to tell them, so that won't help the atmosphere.
It's not that most people wouldn't welcome a return to Blue, but that at the moment we see Premier League survival as a more important issue..
And for that we need to be together..
Having this March on Saturday before and during a crucial game will only divide fans more, not unite them..

I can't understand that comment the "blue brigade" most fans want blue largely supported by the trusts results .I will never knock anyone if they wear a red top or anything with the current badge but to suggest about the antics of the fans who care about their heritage and history is a bit poor. If they are having a go at people wearing red that's not right either, but how does fans singing about being blue damage the team do you know if this is true. I would say the chant usually rescues the atmosphere when it starts to go limp.

i agree,we will always be blue does lift the atmosphere, but there are chants that have the exact opposite effect..


I would say that the atmosphere against Liverpool will be something to remember, even if the result should go against us. The important thing to remember here is that not only will the pre match protest peacefully send a message out that we want our identity back it will also show the watching world that we are still as passionate about our Club and our team as we have ever been. On our day, the best vocal supporters bar none, home and away. :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: CARDIFF C FANS TO MARCH AGAINST REBRAND SAT 22nd MARCH 2

Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:20 pm

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Re: CARDIFF C FANS TO MARCH AGAINST REBRAND SAT 22nd MARCH 2

Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:25 pm

mjw6150 wrote:Of course chanting about off field issues will distract the players and cheapen the atmosphere.


Didn't seem to do Hull any problems when they beat us 4-0. :thumbright:

Re: CARDIFF C FANS TO MARCH AGAINST REBRAND SAT 22nd MARCH 2

Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:31 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
mjw6150 wrote:Of course chanting about off field issues will distract the players and cheapen the atmosphere.


Didn't seem to do Hull any problems when they beat us 4-0. :thumbright:


that was our worse hour EVER..not the 0 4.......but the way they sang their hull songs,abused our players and then tossed in the odd youll always be blue..which of course was greeted with enthusiasm..........took the piss

Re: CARDIFF C FANS TO MARCH AGAINST REBRAND SAT 22nd MARCH 2

Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:34 pm

soulofthesea wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
mjw6150 wrote:Of course chanting about off field issues will distract the players and cheapen the atmosphere.


Didn't seem to do Hull any problems when they beat us 4-0. :thumbright:


that was our worse hour EVER..not the 0 4.......but the way they sang their hull songs,abused our players and then tossed in the odd youll always be blue..which of course was greeted with enthusiasm..........took the piss


Supporters in abusing a player who done the dirty on them shocker :laughing6:

Re: CARDIFF C FANS TO MARCH AGAINST REBRAND SAT 22nd MARCH 2

Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:36 pm

Abused our players?

Re: CARDIFF C FANS TO MARCH AGAINST REBRAND SAT 22nd MARCH 2

Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:40 pm

CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:
soulofthesea wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
mjw6150 wrote:Of course chanting about off field issues will distract the players and cheapen the atmosphere.


Didn't seem to do Hull any problems when they beat us 4-0. :thumbright:


that was our worse hour EVER..not the 0 4.......but the way they sang their hull songs,abused our players and then tossed in the odd youll always be blue..which of course was greeted with enthusiasm..........took the piss


Supporters in abusing a player who done the dirty on them shocker :laughing6:


the dirty?..you mean a player moving club took the best deal on the table. f**k me thats new. the european courts need to make a ruling on that..oh..they did..the bosman ruling
back to the molds jellymeister

Re: CARDIFF C FANS TO MARCH AGAINST REBRAND SAT 22nd MARCH 2

Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:42 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:Abused our players?


at one point they went directly from calling Campbell a greedy b*stard to youll always be blue.........

Re: CARDIFF C FANS TO MARCH AGAINST REBRAND SAT 22nd MARCH 2

Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:43 pm

soulofthesea wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:Abused our players?


at one point they went directly from calling Campbell a greedy b*stard to youll always be blue.........


Oh Hull did. :lol: why are you so shocked/upset about that? :?

Re: CARDIFF C FANS TO MARCH AGAINST REBRAND SAT 22nd MARCH 2

Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:49 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
soulofthesea wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:Abused our players?


at one point they went directly from calling Campbell a greedy b*stard to youll always be blue.........


Oh Hull did. :lol: why are you so shocked/upset about that? :?


i dont see a great deal wrong with giving FC abuse its what fans do.
the pretend love in tho,was taking the pee

Re: CARDIFF C FANS TO MARCH AGAINST REBRAND SAT 22nd MARCH 2

Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:51 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
soulofthesea wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:Abused our players?


at one point they went directly from calling Campbell a greedy b*stard to youll always be blue.........


Oh Hull did. :lol: why are you so shocked/upset

Are you really as stupid as what you write, or are you a bad comedian? Get a job instead . :laughing5:

Re: CARDIFF C FANS TO MARCH AGAINST REBRAND SAT 22nd MARCH 2

Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:52 pm

Why mention it then?

No it wasn't. Two clubs both fighting with owners to retain their true identity, coming together. I thought it was great. :ayatollah:

Re: CARDIFF C FANS TO MARCH AGAINST REBRAND SAT 22nd MARCH 2

Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:54 pm

soulofthesea wrote:
CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:
soulofthesea wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
mjw6150 wrote:Of course chanting about off field issues will distract the players and cheapen the atmosphere.


Didn't seem to do Hull any problems when they beat us 4-0. :thumbright:


that was our worse hour EVER..not the 0 4.......but the way they sang their hull songs,abused our players and then tossed in the odd youll always be blue..which of course was greeted with enthusiasm..........took the piss


Supporters in abusing a player who done the dirty on them shocker :laughing6:


the dirty?..you mean a player moving club took the best deal on the table. f**k me thats new. the european courts need to make a ruling on that..oh..they did..the bosman ruling
back to the molds jellymeister

And when has that ever stopped football fans thinking rationally?

Routledge had dogs abuse from us, Marcus Bent too, yet all they done was the same as Campbell.

a month later and still crying over FC getting abuse.

Wipe your snot you big cry baby.