Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:42 pm
Tue Mar 18, 2014 3:15 am
sfblue11 wrote:For those supporters like me who want to see Cardiff stay in the Premier League, I think the timing of this march is terrible, along with action inside the ground at 19 mins 27 secs during the Liverpool game. In order for us to have any chance of surviving relegation we need to stick together as a team and supporters.
Part of that means generating an intimidating atmosphere together at each home game, to make an impact on the opposition, and that won't happen if we have the Blue shirt faction versus Staying in the Premiership rivalry amongst home fans - and there will be because I've seen it happen at previous games.
I'm not saying don't voice your feelings, it's just that before and during an important game that we want to try and get something out of couldn't be worse timing.
My preference would be to delay any protest until we are mathematically certain of staying-up or going-down.
However, if you'd prefer us to be relegated because making a protest about playing in blue is more important, then proceed with the protest.
Part of the reason I say that is because several fans I've spoken to (not all admittedly), say they'd prefer us to pay in Blue at any cost, even if it means us dropping down the leagues, (and a couple said even if it meant playing Conference football).
I respect their opinion, as they are Cardiff fans, but I've spent over 40 years supporting CCFC, hoping to see them reach the Premiership one day, and I'd hoped that once we reached it, we wouldn't be a one season wonder, and we'd be able to consolidate, like Swansea.
And for those of us who would prefer CCFC to try and stay in the Premier League, I've also been impressed by the views of Danny Murphy, who's been there and done it with Fulham in 2007, and his 5 tips for avoiding relegation. The full article is here - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26473475 but tip no 4 is 'Minimise off the field upheaval'. Having a protest before and during a game will have the opposite effect.
Finally, I know there's a lot of anger directed at Vincent Tan at the way he has acted, but he is not Cardiff City, and Cardiff City will be around long after he goes. I think this protest will hurt Cardiff City in the longer run at least as much as it will hurt Vincent Tan..
Tue Mar 18, 2014 12:55 pm
sfblue11 wrote:For those supporters like me who want to see Cardiff stay in the Premier League, I think the timing of this march is terrible, along with action inside the ground at 19 mins 27 secs during the Liverpool game. In order for us to have any chance of surviving relegation we need to stick together as a team and supporters.
Part of that means generating an intimidating atmosphere together at each home game, to make an impact on the opposition, and that won't happen if we have the Blue shirt faction versus Staying in the Premiership rivalry amongst home fans - and there will be because I've seen it happen at previous games.
I'm not saying don't voice your feelings, it's just that before and during an important game that we want to try and get something out of couldn't be worse timing.
My preference would be to delay any protest until we are mathematically certain of staying-up or going-down.
However, if you'd prefer us to be relegated because making a protest about playing in blue is more important, then proceed with the protest.
Part of the reason I say that is because several fans I've spoken to (not all admittedly), say they'd prefer us to pay in Blue at any cost, even if it means us dropping down the leagues, (and a couple said even if it meant playing Conference football).
I respect their opinion, as they are Cardiff fans, but I've spent over 40 years supporting CCFC, hoping to see them reach the Premiership one day, and I'd hoped that once we reached it, we wouldn't be a one season wonder, and we'd be able to consolidate, like Swansea.
And for those of us who would prefer CCFC to try and stay in the Premier League, I've also been impressed by the views of Danny Murphy, who's been there and done it with Fulham in 2007, and his 5 tips for avoiding relegation. The full article is here - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26473475 but tip no 4 is 'Minimise off the field upheaval'. Having a protest before and during a game will have the opposite effect.
Finally, I know there's a lot of anger directed at Vincent Tan at the way he has acted, but he is not Cardiff City, and Cardiff City will be around long after he goes. I think this protest will hurt Cardiff City in the longer run at least as much as it will hurt Vincent Tan..
Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:59 pm
Tue Mar 18, 2014 6:11 pm
sfblue11 wrote:The atmosphere may depend on where you are in the ground - it may be like you say in the Canton End, but where I sit in the Ninian Stand, there are a few people who are already fed-up with the antics of the Blue brigade, damaging the team, and haven't been afraid to tell them, so that won't help the atmosphere.
It's not that most people wouldn't welcome a return to Blue, but that at the moment we see Premier League survival as a more important issue..
And for that we need to be together..
Having this March on Saturday before and during a crucial game will only divide fans more, not unite them..
Tue Mar 18, 2014 6:49 pm
Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:21 pm
TERRYB wrote:sfblue11 wrote:The atmosphere may depend on where you are in the ground - it may be like you say in the Canton End, but where I sit in the Ninian Stand, there are a few people who are already fed-up with the antics of the Blue brigade, damaging the team, and haven't been afraid to tell them, so that won't help the atmosphere.
It's not that most people wouldn't welcome a return to Blue, but that at the moment we see Premier League survival as a more important issue..
And for that we need to be together..
Having this March on Saturday before and during a crucial game will only divide fans more, not unite them..
Probably a good thing that you stay in the Ninian because The Canton is Blue and I don't think you would last very long in there.
Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:56 pm
redordead wrote:TERRYB wrote:sfblue11 wrote:The atmosphere may depend on where you are in the ground - it may be like you say in the Canton End, but where I sit in the Ninian Stand, there are a few people who are already fed-up with the antics of the Blue brigade, damaging the team, and haven't been afraid to tell them, so that won't help the atmosphere.
It's not that most people wouldn't welcome a return to Blue, but that at the moment we see Premier League survival as a more important issue..
And for that we need to be together..
Having this March on Saturday before and during a crucial game will only divide fans more, not unite them..
Probably a good thing that you stay in the Ninian because The Canton is Blue and I don't think you would last very long in there.
Your the worst kind of fan terry
Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:29 am
redordead wrote:TERRYB wrote:sfblue11 wrote:The atmosphere may depend on where you are in the ground - it may be like you say in the Canton End, but where I sit in the Ninian Stand, there are a few people who are already fed-up with the antics of the Blue brigade, damaging the team, and haven't been afraid to tell them, so that won't help the atmosphere.
It's not that most people wouldn't welcome a return to Blue, but that at the moment we see Premier League survival as a more important issue..
And for that we need to be together..
Having this March on Saturday before and during a crucial game will only divide fans more, not unite them..
Probably a good thing that you stay in the Ninian because The Canton is Blue and I don't think you would last very long in there.
Your the worst kind of fan terry
Wed Mar 19, 2014 8:17 am
Golden cheetah wrote:He and others should be banned as a hooligans that only making trouble , and probebly dont interested in the play of football.
Wed Mar 19, 2014 8:23 am
Barry Chuckle wrote:Golden cheetah wrote:He and others should be banned as a hooligans that only making trouble , and probebly dont interested in the play of football.
Bore off, you aren't even a Cardiff fan.
Wed Mar 19, 2014 8:32 am
Wed Mar 19, 2014 9:39 am
redordead wrote:TERRYB wrote:sfblue11 wrote:The atmosphere may depend on where you are in the ground - it may be like you say in the Canton End, but where I sit in the Ninian Stand, there are a few people who are already fed-up with the antics of the Blue brigade, damaging the team, and haven't been afraid to tell them, so that won't help the atmosphere.
It's not that most people wouldn't welcome a return to Blue, but that at the moment we see Premier League survival as a more important issue..
And for that we need to be together..
Having this March on Saturday before and during a crucial game will only divide fans more, not unite them..
Probably a good thing that you stay in the Ninian because The Canton is Blue and I don't think you would last very long in there.
Your the worst kind of fan terry
Wed Mar 19, 2014 9:39 am
sfblue11 wrote:Yeah..well done, that's exactly the type of fans togetherness we are going to need on Saturday...Canton stand versus Ninian Stand...Championship here we come...
Wed Mar 19, 2014 11:34 am
sfblue11 wrote:The atmosphere may depend on where you are in the ground - it may be like you say in the Canton End, but where I sit in the Ninian Stand, there are a few people who are already fed-up with the antics of the Blue brigade, damaging the team, and haven't been afraid to tell them, so that won't help the atmosphere.
It's not that most people wouldn't welcome a return to Blue, but that at the moment we see Premier League survival as a more important issue..
And for that we need to be together..
Having this March on Saturday before and during a crucial game will only divide fans more, not unite them..
Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:00 pm
cendl blue wrote:sfblue11 wrote:The atmosphere may depend on where you are in the ground - it may be like you say in the Canton End, but where I sit in the Ninian Stand, there are a few people who are already fed-up with the antics of the Blue brigade, damaging the team, and haven't been afraid to tell them, so that won't help the atmosphere.
It's not that most people wouldn't welcome a return to Blue, but that at the moment we see Premier League survival as a more important issue..
And for that we need to be together..
Having this March on Saturday before and during a crucial game will only divide fans more, not unite them..
I can't understand that comment the "blue brigade" most fans want blue largely supported by the trusts results .I will never knock anyone if they wear a red top or anything with the current badge but to suggest about the antics of the fans who care about their heritage and history is a bit poor. If they are having a go at people wearing red that's not right either, but how does fans singing about being blue damage the team do you know if this is true. I would say the chant usually rescues the atmosphere when it starts to go limp.
Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:12 pm
Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:13 pm
soulofthesea wrote:cendl blue wrote:sfblue11 wrote:The atmosphere may depend on where you are in the ground - it may be like you say in the Canton End, but where I sit in the Ninian Stand, there are a few people who are already fed-up with the antics of the Blue brigade, damaging the team, and haven't been afraid to tell them, so that won't help the atmosphere.
It's not that most people wouldn't welcome a return to Blue, but that at the moment we see Premier League survival as a more important issue..
And for that we need to be together..
Having this March on Saturday before and during a crucial game will only divide fans more, not unite them..
I can't understand that comment the "blue brigade" most fans want blue largely supported by the trusts results .I will never knock anyone if they wear a red top or anything with the current badge but to suggest about the antics of the fans who care about their heritage and history is a bit poor. If they are having a go at people wearing red that's not right either, but how does fans singing about being blue damage the team do you know if this is true. I would say the chant usually rescues the atmosphere when it starts to go limp.
i agree,we will always be blue does lift the atmosphere, but there are chants that have the exact opposite effect..
Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:20 pm
Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:25 pm
mjw6150 wrote:Of course chanting about off field issues will distract the players and cheapen the atmosphere.
Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:31 pm
Barry Chuckle wrote:mjw6150 wrote:Of course chanting about off field issues will distract the players and cheapen the atmosphere.
Didn't seem to do Hull any problems when they beat us 4-0.
Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:34 pm
soulofthesea wrote:Barry Chuckle wrote:mjw6150 wrote:Of course chanting about off field issues will distract the players and cheapen the atmosphere.
Didn't seem to do Hull any problems when they beat us 4-0.
that was our worse hour EVER..not the 0 4.......but the way they sang their hull songs,abused our players and then tossed in the odd youll always be blue..which of course was greeted with enthusiasm..........took the piss
Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:36 pm
Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:40 pm
CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:soulofthesea wrote:Barry Chuckle wrote:mjw6150 wrote:Of course chanting about off field issues will distract the players and cheapen the atmosphere.
Didn't seem to do Hull any problems when they beat us 4-0.
that was our worse hour EVER..not the 0 4.......but the way they sang their hull songs,abused our players and then tossed in the odd youll always be blue..which of course was greeted with enthusiasm..........took the piss
Supporters in abusing a player who done the dirty on them shocker
Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:42 pm
Barry Chuckle wrote:Abused our players?
Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:43 pm
soulofthesea wrote:Barry Chuckle wrote:Abused our players?
at one point they went directly from calling Campbell a greedy b*stard to youll always be blue.........
Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:49 pm
Barry Chuckle wrote:soulofthesea wrote:Barry Chuckle wrote:Abused our players?
at one point they went directly from calling Campbell a greedy b*stard to youll always be blue.........
Oh Hull did.why are you so shocked/upset about that?
Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:51 pm
Barry Chuckle wrote:soulofthesea wrote:Barry Chuckle wrote:Abused our players?
at one point they went directly from calling Campbell a greedy b*stard to youll always be blue.........
Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:52 pm
Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:54 pm
soulofthesea wrote:CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:soulofthesea wrote:Barry Chuckle wrote:mjw6150 wrote:Of course chanting about off field issues will distract the players and cheapen the atmosphere.
Didn't seem to do Hull any problems when they beat us 4-0.
that was our worse hour EVER..not the 0 4.......but the way they sang their hull songs,abused our players and then tossed in the odd youll always be blue..which of course was greeted with enthusiasm..........took the piss
Supporters in abusing a player who done the dirty on them shocker
the dirty?..you mean a player moving club took the best deal on the table. f**k me thats new. the european courts need to make a ruling on that..oh..they did..the bosman ruling
back to the molds jellymeister