Thu Aug 08, 2013 3:38 pm
Bluebird since 1948 wrote:Can't believe so many people are getting angry about this. It's a march that will not not affect the team, other fans or Tan. Seen some comments that state Tan will be driven away by this, the blokes a multi millionaire people like him are not easily pushed away besides he won't even know of this march. All he cares about is a full stadium to give him justification to expand a new stadium and when he does that you know he's here for the long haul.
Good luck to the BU, I'll be getting tanked up in the pub not getting angry with anyone, be it Tan or BU. One thing I will say though, if Tan released a statement saying "If your coming to stir trouble then don't bother come" there would be uproar. I gather what Sian means by that comment in her statement is people turning up to sing pro red/Tan songs yet BU will no doubt sing pro Blue/Anti Tan songs in the ground?
Thu Aug 08, 2013 3:39 pm
Thu Aug 08, 2013 3:46 pm
Thu Aug 08, 2013 3:51 pm
Bluebird since 1948 wrote:I'll be singing pro blue songs to an extent. Off course people are allowed to sing blue songs but can you afford fans who want to sing pro red songs the same right? They will be ridiculed and called plastics.
Works two ways, it's called diplomacy and it's a course that Branson needs to go on or she'll end up in a pickle (Pun very much intended).
Thu Aug 08, 2013 3:56 pm
Real_Blue_Really wrote:Bluebird since 1948 wrote:I'll be singing pro blue songs to an extent. Off course people are allowed to sing blue songs but can you afford fans who want to sing pro red songs the same right? They will be ridiculed and called plastics.
Works two ways, it's called diplomacy and it's a course that Branson needs to go on or she'll end up in a pickle (Pun very much intended).
We are not a red club and no red songs exist. Do you go to games?
Sian is a fan doing her best to keep our identity alive. Why aren't you bemoaning the billionaire bully VT and his lack of diplomacy? This sort of caper is why i'm quitting.
Thu Aug 08, 2013 4:12 pm
Thu Aug 08, 2013 4:17 pm
RICK+CCFC wrote:Like TLG said recently, Too little Too late.
Why didn't this level of activity take place a year ago?
Why didn't ALL the Cardiff City supporters clubs, trust, & fan bases do anything about it a years ago??
What are the BU, & any one else connected for that matter, going to DO immediately after the march on Sunday25th???
Personally, the only people who have come out of this situation with any credit, or admiration, are those who have refused to support, or have totally shunned the re brand & no longer associate themselves with our club, whatsoever.
From a personal point of view, wear Blue,,,,or simply don't attend matches anymore.
Thu Aug 08, 2013 4:20 pm
RICK+CCFC wrote:Like TLG said recently, Too little Too late.
Why didn't this level of activity take place a year ago?
Why didn't ALL the Cardiff City supporters clubs, trust, & fan bases do anything about it a years ago??
What are the BU, & any one else connected for that matter, going to DO immediately after the march on Sunday25th???
Personally, the only people who have come out of this situation with any credit, or admiration, are those who have refused to support, or have totally shunned the re brand & no longer associate themselves with our club, whatsoever.
From a personal point of view, wear Blue,,,,or simply don't attend matches anymore.
Thu Aug 08, 2013 4:21 pm
TheHangedMan wrote:RICK+CCFC wrote:Like TLG said recently, Too little Too late.
Why didn't this level of activity take place a year ago?
Why didn't ALL the Cardiff City supporters clubs, trust, & fan bases do anything about it a years ago??
What are the BU, & any one else connected for that matter, going to DO immediately after the march on Sunday25th???
Personally, the only people who have come out of this situation with any credit, or admiration, are those who have refused to support, or have totally shunned the re brand & no longer associate themselves with our club, whatsoever.
From a personal point of view, wear Blue,,,,or simply don't attend matches anymore.
Be careful Rick, there's a distinct chance you are talking a lot of sense there and you will get berated.
Thu Aug 08, 2013 4:22 pm
Thu Aug 08, 2013 4:23 pm
Barry Chuckle wrote:RICK+CCFC wrote:Like TLG said recently, Too little Too late.
Why didn't this level of activity take place a year ago?
Why didn't ALL the Cardiff City supporters clubs, trust, & fan bases do anything about it a years ago??
What are the BU, & any one else connected for that matter, going to DO immediately after the march on Sunday25th???
Personally, the only people who have come out of this situation with any credit, or admiration, are those who have refused to support, or have totally shunned the re brand & no longer associate themselves with our club, whatsoever.
From a personal point of view, wear Blue,,,,or simply don't attend matches anymore.
There was action. It was buried by threats and intimidation, however.
Thu Aug 08, 2013 5:27 pm
Barry Chuckle wrote:RICK+CCFC wrote:Like TLG said recently, Too little Too late.
Why didn't this level of activity take place a year ago?
Why didn't ALL the Cardiff City supporters clubs, trust, & fan bases do anything about it a years ago??
What are the BU, & any one else connected for that matter, going to DO immediately after the march on Sunday25th???
Personally, the only people who have come out of this situation with any credit, or admiration, are those who have refused to support, or have totally shunned the re brand & no longer associate themselves with our club, whatsoever.
From a personal point of view, wear Blue,,,,or simply don't attend matches anymore.
There was action. It was buried by threats and intimidation, however.
Thu Aug 08, 2013 7:12 pm
Thu Aug 08, 2013 7:29 pm
Tony Blue Williams wrote:brickyblue wrote:TheHangedMan wrote:Cardiffkid: I'm not telling you what to do, it's your life and you must do what you think is right.
All I will say is that my experience of life has shown one thing when it comes to total confrontation, and that is it's a LOSE - LOSE situation.
A "celebratory march" on our first home game in the top tier for over 50 years will be portrayed in the media as a "protest" against the owner. Mark my words! I know how the media works.
When Tan sees this on the TV he will be more bloody minded than ever and it will reduce / eliminate the chances of us ever turning back to blue under his tenure. He will take it as a personal insult whether it was meant that way or not (and that is another question which we will gloss over for a minute).
Dialogue is the only way with this man. He wants to be loved and cannot understand why, after all he has done for us, there are still elements of dislike / hatred towards him.
I just think that BU are going about it totally the wrong way.
You have to understand that not all of us want to love him the rebrand has caused so much hurt and sorrow for some us what else can you do .
We have held off and held off and said nothing all last season giving Tan a chance to re think instaed he went on tv and mocked what he called the old unsucssesful brand which added to the fire.
The man wants to be loved we want to love him for most part we do BUT for the rebrand I hate the man and if people now want to stand up for there club and its true colours then good on them leave em be its there right how they feel .
If it means Tan goes cos he isnt loved then so be it .Its are club and we all have a right to think what we want this is hurting me and many other peolpe we dont want to cause trouble just make a point.
If you agree with the rebrand cool but you have to have the same rule the other way around what did you expect everbody just say way hay the identity is gone cool move on come on its bollocks that was never going to happen and ypu no it .
Problem is why didnt Tan no it why? because he dont no a thing about football thats why he has created this mess no one else .
I f you like the red good luck to you .If you like blue good luck to you problem here is there is no middle ground its will go on and on with no end and Mr Tan caused it he never needed to to do it he has to now live with the backlash.
Any fan of any other club would feel the same so if someone wants to stand up for what they strongly believe in then how can you deny them of that.
Its one big mess that will come to a head sooner or later and that was always going to happen like it or not football is all about loveing you team and being proud and the club colours stood for all of that .Take em away and you are left with a lot of very pissed of people .
I think we are all well aware that there is a small minority who are against the rebrand. The trouble is that small minority can't get their heads around the fact that the MAJORITY view is completely opposite. You say you are 'fighting' for the club. Have you ever stopped to think that the vast majority don't want what you are fighting for?
Losing VT would be a disaster. For some reason some fans (mainly those of the BU inclination) seem to think that wouldn't be the case, but if we think back to the time before he came in we arrive at a High Court winding up order and that makes my blood run cold.
VT made a number of promises when he introduced the rebrand. He has been good to his word so far and I have no reason to doubt he will eventually turn all the debt/loans into equity and for the first time in decades Cardiff City will be debt free and able to compete competitively in the highest league in Europe.
We had to sacrifice the blue shirt to get there, but to me that is a price worth paying as the alternative was to sacrifice the clubs existence.
Thu Aug 08, 2013 8:43 pm
Damned Yank wrote:redordead wrote:Damned Yank wrote:It'll be the boozer for me.
This march is a waste of time. A ridiculous one at that.
ridiculous and embarrassing.
Ridiculous, embarassing and futile.
Thu Aug 08, 2013 9:51 pm
Real_Blue_Really wrote:Bluebird since 1948 wrote:I'll be singing pro blue songs to an extent. Off course people are allowed to sing blue songs but can you afford fans who want to sing pro red songs the same right? They will be ridiculed and called plastics.
Works two ways, it's called diplomacy and it's a course that Branson needs to go on or she'll end up in a pickle (Pun very much intended).
We are not a red club and no red songs exist. Do you go to games?
Sian is a fan doing her best to keep our identity alive. Why aren't you bemoaning the billionaire bully VT and his lack of diplomacy? This sort of caper is why i'm quitting.