Ashley Williams...

I'm afraid you completely missed the point. I'm debating the claim that Williams has only made 2 mistakes in over 200 games. Even you can't support this?

My statement about Hudson was purely to point out the ludicrous suggestion that I should be able to give details of every mistake Williams has made. Picking hudson was immaterial as I could have named any Cardiff player to make the point.
Come on RM keep up I would expect you to spot the facetious part of my post?

And im debating the claim he isn't known for his mistakes and doesn't make them often. In fact makes the least mistakes of any defender ive had the pleasure of watching.

so far this hasn't been proven otherwise.

Two subtly different debates then. At least your not claiming he has only made 2 mistakes
I thought your world class claim was the joke of the day but its been surpassed by lj1985

Ill leave you both to your delusional worlds. All about opinion of course

Whats the point of jacks trying to educate the football neanderthal fools on here of the merits of a ball playing centre half, one of the best passing centre backs in the league. Who also happens to be a dammed good defender and leader. Anybody with an ounce of sense and the ability to read and understand the game realises how good he is. If a few posters on here don't rate him then its a case of never mind move on.

Whats the point of jacks trying to educate the football neanderthal fools on here of the merits of a ball playing centre half, one of the best passing centre backs in the league. Who also happens to be a dammed good defender and leader. Anybody with an ounce of sense and the ability to read and understand the game realises how good he is. If a few posters on here don't rate him then its a case of never mind move on.

Now that's a completely different topic from you with "What's the point of jacks"

No idea.

Fair play you and your six digit breathern are trying hard to educate us with over 500 posts! ???

By the way that sais isnt even the best CB at swansea

That shrieking wop is better

Whats the point of jacks trying to educate the football neanderthal fools on here of the merits of a ball playing centre half, one of the best passing centre backs in the league. Who also happens to be a dammed good defender and leader. Anybody with an ounce of sense and the ability to read and understand the game realises how good he is. If a few posters on here don't rate him then its a case of never mind move on.

Now that's a completely different topic from you with "What's the point of jacks"

No idea.

To educate neanderthal knuckle dragging football dinosaurs from a by gone age! We are here to help.

I expect this topic has been done before but I'm interested in people's opinions of him as a footballer - put aside our rivalry with the back jastards for a moment...

The press reckon from time to time that the likes of Liverpool and Arsenal are interested in the guy, the Swans think the sun shines out of his arse and he's the Welsh captain.

I honestly don't rate him though - I think he's slow, ponderous and is so prone to making clumsy back passes and scoring own goals...

What on earth do people see in him?

Don't rate him at all the only thing i'd say for him is he's got a bit of pace for a centre half.

Whats the point of jacks trying to educate the football neanderthal fools on here of the merits of a ball playing centre half, one of the best passing centre backs in the league. Who also happens to be a dammed good defender and leader. Anybody with an ounce of sense and the ability to read and understand the game realises how good he is. If a few posters on here don't rate him then its a case of never mind move on.

Now that's a completely different topic from you with "What's the point of jacks"

No idea.

To educate neanderthal knuckle dragging football dinosaurs from a by gone age! We are here to help.

I don't rate fairy stories as football education

He's meant to be great for the jacks but for wales this world cup qualifiers he's been totally crap made loads of mistakes!then again he is English after all should never be captain of wales!

Stopped reading 5 pages ago as Chuckles and Roathie on the same thread really is a recipe for boredom, two sides of the same coin.

All I will say is the argument against Williams being the Welsh captain is just xenophobic nonsense and anti-English drivel. Those saying he shouldn't be captain probably don't watch Wales regularly judging by the pitiful attendances.

Stopped reading 5 pages ago as Chuckles and Roathie on the same thread really is a recipe for boredom, two sides of the same coin.

All I will say is the argument against Williams being the Welsh captain is just xenophobic nonsense and anti-English drivel. Those saying he shouldn't be captain probably don't watch Wales regularly judging by the pitiful attendances.

Not at all you idiot.

It goes for Earnshaw aswell as Williams. Not just players born in England.

Also I boycott Wales and been following Wales for 8 years so shut your trap.

He's meant to be great for the jacks but for wales this world cup qualifiers he's been totally crap made loads of mistakes!then again he is English after all should never be captain of wales!

And cardiff isnt a english club so they shouldn't be playing in england then

He's massively overrated and that's the last post I will be making in this thread

Too say that you must be on something. I can't stand the jerks but Williams is probably in top 10-15 central defenders in premier league. He's not world class but he is good enough for a team in champions league

He's massively overrated and that's the last post I will be making in this thread

Too say that you must be on something. I can't stand the jerks but Williams is probably in top 10-15 central defenders in premier league. He's not world class but he is good enough for a team in champions league

So at 28 why hasn't a CL come in for him? From a Wales perspective it would be great to see our welsh team players playing at the very highest level

He's massively overrated and that's the last post I will be making in this thread

Too say that you must be on something. I can't stand the jerks but Williams is probably in top 10-15 central defenders in premier league. He's not world class but he is good enough for a team in champions league

So at 28 why hasn't a CL come in for him? From a Wales perspective it would be great to see our welsh team players playing at the very highest level

Because huw the spew wont accept 10 million for him and the cVA shafters don't need the cash. Also when they signed him from Stockport they got him cheap because of a 25% sell on clause. 2 years ago Stockport were in financial meltdown because they were relegated from league so the credit shafters offered them 100k to remove sell on clause.

He's massively overrated and that's the last post I will be making in this thread

Too say that you must be on something. I can't stand the jerks but Williams is probably in top 10-15 central defenders in premier league. He's not world class but he is good enough for a team in champions league

So at 28 why hasn't a CL come in for him? From a Wales perspective it would be great to see our welsh team players playing at the very highest level

They have

He's massively overrated and that's the last post I will be making in this thread

Too say that you must be on something. I can't stand the jerks but Williams is probably in top 10-15 central defenders in premier league. He's not world class but he is good enough for a team in champions league

So at 28 why hasn't a CL come in for him? From a Wales perspective it would be great to see our welsh team players playing at the very highest level

Because huw the spew wont accept 10 million for him and the cVA shafters don't need the cash. Also when they signed him from Stockport they got him cheap because of a 25% sell on clause. 2 years ago Stockport were in financial meltdown because they were relegated from league so the credit shafters offered them 100k to remove sell on clause.

Got him on the cheap yet your lot were also after him? How cheap does that make you?

Aye, terrible business by us offering Stockport money to survive while also making a good deal for ourselves

He's massively overrated and that's the last post I will be making in this thread

Too say that you must be on something. I can't stand the jerks but Williams is probably in top 10-15 central defenders in premier league. He's not world class but he is good enough for a team in champions league

So at 28 why hasn't a CL come in for him? From a Wales perspective it would be great to see our welsh team players playing at the very highest level

They have

Do one Roathie.

A good player - no doubt about that.

I wouldn't say he has the quality to be playing Champions League football, but the level he's currently experiencing week in, week out seems to be just right.

Wouldn't be too surprised if Everton are interested once Distin calls it a day.

I expect this topic has been done before but I'm interested in people's opinions of him as a footballer - put aside our rivalry with the back jastards for a moment...

The press reckon from time to time that the likes of Liverpool and Arsenal are interested in the guy, the Swans think the sun shines out of his arse and he's the Welsh captain.

I honestly don't rate him though - I think he's slow, ponderous and is so prone to making clumsy back passes and scoring own goals...

What on earth do people see in him?

Was at fault for a lot of conceded goals last season. Dont think he has anything like the talent he is hyped up to have.
Though not sure why he is getting discussed on a Cardiff forum.

He's massively overrated and that's the last post I will be making in this thread

Too say that you must be on something. I can't stand the jerks but Williams is probably in top 10-15 central defenders in premier league. He's not world class but he is good enough for a team in champions league

So at 28 why hasn't a CL come in for him? From a Wales perspective it would be great to see our welsh team players playing at the very highest level

They have

Do one Roathie.

I'm stating a fact.

Debate nicely or not at all.

Debate nicely or not at all.

So what kick do you get out of all this. You know pretending to be a Cardiff fan then reverting back to a Jack.....

Debate nicely or not at all.

So what kick do you get out of all this. You know pretending to be a Cardiff fan then reverting back to a Jack.....

If you want to change the topic to personal curiosities, then pm me. This thread is about Ashley Williams.

Debate nicely or not at all.

So what kick do you get out of all this. You know pretending to be a Cardiff fan then reverting back to a Jack.....

If you want to change the topic to personal curiosities, then pm me. This thread is about Ashley Williams.

Well post it on a Swansea forum then. Jack cnut.

Debate nicely or not at all.

So what kick do you get out of all this. You know pretending to be a Cardiff fan then reverting back to a Jack.....

If you want to change the topic to personal curiosities, then pm me. This thread is about Ashley Williams.

Well post it on a Swansea forum then. Jack cnut.

Its not my thread babes. talking to the wrong person there.

He's massively overrated and that's the last post I will be making in this thread

Too say that you must be on something. I can't stand the jerks but Williams is probably in top 10-15 central defenders in premier league. He's not world class but he is good enough for a team in champions league

So at 28 why hasn't a CL come in for him? From a Wales perspective it would be great to see our welsh team players playing at the very highest level

They have

I believe your chairman over you. Besides IF a CL club genuinely wanted him they would have got him and not worried about paying £10m

What shocking logic you have. If chairmens statements were gospel then you would still be playing in blue

If a Champions League club didn't want him then they wouldn't have bid or even enquired, the fact they have (even though you decide to not believe) proves as much.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... wners.html


Brendan Rodgers must convince Liverpool’s owners to relax their strict transfer policy to ensure his pursuit of Ashley Williams reaches a successful conclusion.

Liverpool have identified Williams as one of their prime targets this summer and Rodgers would like to bring Swansea’s captain in to replace the soon to be retired Jamie Carragher. Arsenal, who had a £9million bid rejected for Williams in January, are also firmly interested.
Williams, though, was a boyhood Liverpool fan and would favour a move to Merseyside but he is likely to cost in the region of £12million and Fenway Sports Group have implemented a strategy that means they do not sign players over the age of 23.

The Belgian international, 24, has been watched by Newcastle and Everton but, earlier this week, he stated his preference would be to join Liverpool. Like another Liverpool target at Ajax, Christian Eriksen, Alderweirled only has 12 months remaining on his current contract and would cost £7million.

This is going to be a pivotal summer for Liverpool and Rodgers appreciates the need to ensure whatever business he does is completed swiftly, as was the case in January when Daniel Sturridge was drafted in within 24 hours of the window opening.

Rodgers wants to be in a position where the majority of the new faces he recruits are in place for when pre-season training begins in July, so the group is settled before they embark on the task of trying to regain their Champions League status.

‘Yes, I think it’s very important to get players in as quick as we possibly can,’ said Rodgers, whose side travel to Reading tomorrow. ‘I think we will be in a much stronger place because we have much of the structure of the team already done.

‘So (this summer) it is all about sprinkling more quality into it – and a bit more depth – and I am confident we can do that. Everyone is working very hard and everyone is in unison with what we are trying to do. If we get some good work done early, it will help us start well next season.’


Liverpool’s efforts were compromised last summer by a failure to act decisively but Rodgers and his staff have moved to ensure there will be no repeats by having two or three different options of similar quality lined up for the positions they want to fill.

‘The recruitment team has regular meetings to establish where we are in terms of the targets,’ said Rodgers. ‘There is a process we go through. There is still some work to do but I’m confident we have a pattern of work, the players are there and it’s about the availability and players we can

http://redlondon.net/2013/06/13/latest- ... o-arsenal/

Arsenal may be forced to end their pursuit of Ashley Williams unless they improve their approach for the player.

Despite claims by tabloids at the end of last month that the Gunners were on the verge of agreeing terms for the transfer of the player, Swansea City’s centre back is now set to remain with the Welsh club after a breakdown in negotiations to sell him.

Williams’ representatives were reportedly contacted by Arsenal recently for the first time since the Gunners last failed in their attempt to lure the defender to London during the January transfer window.

But even though the 28-year-old has made it clear that he would prefer a switch to the Emirates stadium, Swansea City football club have now declined an £8.3 million proposal from Arsenal.

The Swans have also made it clear that they will only consider a bid above £10 million while manager Michael Laudrup has reiterated that Ashley Williams is happy at the club.

Speaking before his summer holidays recently, Williams was coy over his own future.


“I play my football for Swansea City and now I’m just going away and looking forward to a holiday,” Williams said

“I’ve said before, I’ll take it as a compliment, it means you’re doing your job well. I’ve done that this time, I haven’t looked too far into it.”

Arsenal will now have to plot a better bid for the defender if he is ever to be given up by Swansea, but the Gunners may not be the front-runners to secure the services of Williams anymore after new Everton manager Roberto Martinez was linked with a move for Williams, whom he signed from Stockport five years ago when he was in charge of the Welsh side.

What shocking logic you have. If chairmens statements were gospel then you would still be playing in blue

If a Champions League club didn't want him then they wouldn't have bid or even enquired, the fact they have (even though you decide to not believe) proves as much.

Ill reiterate - IF a CL club genuinely wanted him they would have got him and not worried about paying £10m. If they saw him as a first team player £10m would be a small fry for them. How you fail to see this is beyond me.

And yes I believe Jenkins over you, even if I thought he was prone to lies. As for the newspapers, they've never made stories up or stretched the truth now have they?

Until he moves to a CL club then my stance is fact whereas yours remains pure speculation

PS neither Liverpool or Everton are CL clubs

What shocking logic you have. If chairmens statements were gospel then you would still be playing in blue

If a Champions League club didn't want him then they wouldn't have bid or even enquired, the fact they have (even though you decide to not believe) proves as much.

Ill reiterate - IF a CL club genuinely wanted him they would have got him and not worried about paying £10m. If they saw him as a first team player £10m would be a small fry for them. How you fail to see this is beyond me.

And yes I believe Jenkins over you, even if I thought he was prone to lies. As for the newspapers, they've never made stories up or stretched the truth now have they?

Until he moves to a CL club then my stance is fact whereas yours remains pure speculation

PS neither Liverpool or Everton are CL clubs

You can reiterate as much as you like. you are clearly wrong