Gay Marriage - Yes or No poll

We've got a fanbase littered with closet knob jockey's. Keep washing those red shirts lads, they'll soon turn pink.

A lot of ignorant/homophobic people on this thread.

A lot of ignorant/homophobic people on this thread.

That is probably true, but you probably meant to say....

"There are a lot of people who don't agree with me on this thread"

A lot of ignorant/homophobic people on this thread.

That is probably true, but you probably meant to say....

"There are a lot of people who don't agree with me on this thread"

You obviously haven't read the thread.

A lot of ignorant/homophobic people on this thread.

I think most of them are on the wind up tbh, cant all suddenly be christian's.

A lot of ignorant/homophobic people on this thread.

I think most of them are on the wind up tbh, cant all suddenly be christian's.

I don't have a problem with people who disagree with homosexuality, I just have a problem with people who disrespect it.

so what if people have a diffrent opinion to the PC bragade??, I think its wrong, its discusting and vile! THATS MY OPINION, your opinions say its ok and your fine with it, WELL CONGRATULATIONS thats your opinion too, neither are wrong , just what we feel or like in some peoples opinions

imagine if we are all the same ...god

so what if people have a diffrent opinion to the PC bragade??, I think its wrong, its discusting and vile! THATS MY OPINION, your opinions say its ok and your fine with it, WELL CONGRATULATIONS thats your opinion too, neither are wrong , just what we feel or like in some peoples opinions

imagine if we are all the same ...god

How can you try and defend yourself by saying imagine if we're all the same when in that same post you're demonising those that aren't the same.

Hypocritical to the max.

so what if people have a diffrent opinion to the PC bragade??, I think its wrong, its discusting and vile! THATS MY OPINION, your opinions say its ok and your fine with it, WELL CONGRATULATIONS thats your opinion too, neither are wrong , just what we feel or like in some peoples opinions

imagine if we are all the same ...god

How can you try and defend yourself by saying imagine if we're all the same when in that same post you're demonising those that aren't the same.

Hypocritical to the max.

don't go there girlfriend

so what if people have a diffrent opinion to the PC bragade??, I think its wrong, its discusting and vile! THATS MY OPINION, your opinions say its ok and your fine with it, WELL CONGRATULATIONS thats your opinion too, neither are wrong , just what we feel or like in some peoples opinions

imagine if we are all the same ...god

Don't expect people to respect your opinion though considering your opinion is offensive.

so what if people have a diffrent opinion to the PC bragade??, I think its wrong, its discusting and vile! THATS MY OPINION, your opinions say its ok and your fine with it, WELL CONGRATULATIONS thats your opinion too, neither are wrong , just what we feel or like in some peoples opinions

imagine if we are all the same ...god

And the Nazis thought Jews were disgusting

Assigning someone different rights based upon their characteristics has been deemed wrong far too many times for it to suddenly be fine.

Anal sex is wrong whatever the orientation IMO. Its part of the digestive system.

Anal sex is wrong whatever the orientation IMO. Its part of the digestive system.

The mouth isn't really for kissing is it? Kissing is wrong imo.

Anal sex is wrong whatever the orientation IMO. Its part of the digestive system.

I've slipper my sleak one in a few of the local sluts arses, whats wrong with that

Anal sex is wrong whatever the orientation IMO. Its part of the digestive system.

I've slipper my sleak one in a few of the local sluts arses, whats wrong with that

Nothing to be honest. Im just trying to create debate. Its not a view I really have. I don't really care what other people do in their free time.

Surely it's all about human rights?

Anal sex is wrong whatever the orientation IMO. Its part of the digestive system.

I've slipper my sleak one in a few of the local sluts arses, whats wrong with that

Nothing to be honest. Im just trying to create debate. Its not a view I really have. I don't really care what other people do in their free time.

Lies you care barnett, your telling me your tongue has never slipped on to her brown star when your nose deep in pussy, mine has and i lick her backdoor to death, does this mean im gay now hmmm

I'm with Clint.

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Threads not dead yet then

I'm with Clint.

goes both ways though, your not very good at this equality thing are you.

I'm with Clint.

goes both ways though, your not very good at this equality thing are you.

Explain.

I'm with Clint.

goes both ways though, your not very good at this equality thing are you.

Explain.

ok the rights of gay people are just as important as the rights of all religions, as both are part of the human rights act.

so if you believe gay people should be allowed to get married because you believe all people should be equal (which I believe all people should be). In the fight for equality you should fight equally hard for the rights of gay people and the rights of the religions.

do gay people have the right to be married - yes
do religions have the right to choose who they want to marry based on their religious beliefs - yes

this is why the word equality is the worst word people could have used, it should be tolerance, as in despite what I think of you personally I will tolerate you.

so if you truly want to preach equality people can stop the religion bashing respect their beliefs as much as you should respect a homosexuals choices and beliefs.

unfortunately people like to take sides based on one choice is right and one choice is wrong, where as you really should start thinking (if you care about equality) that both choices are right.

Anal sex is wrong whatever the orientation IMO. Its part of the digestive system.

I've slipper my sleak one in a few of the local sluts arses, whats wrong with that

Nothing to be honest. Im just trying to create debate. Its not a view I really have. I don't really care what other people do in their free time.

Lies you care barnett, your telling me your tongue has never slipped on to her brown star when your nose deep in pussy, mine has and i lick her backdoor to death, does this mean im gay now hmmm

I don't know whether we share the same disturbing sense of humor or if I should be genuinely worried about you.

I'm with Clint.

goes both ways though, your not very good at this equality thing are you.

Explain.

ok the rights of gay people are just as important as the rights of all religions, as both are part of the human rights act.

so if you believe gay people should be allowed to get married because you believe all people should be equal (which I believe all people should be). In the fight for equality you should fight equally hard for the rights of gay people and the rights of the religions.

do gay people have the right to be married - yes
do religions have the right to choose who they want to marry based on their religious beliefs - yes

this is why the word equality is the worst word people could have used, it should be tolerance, as in despite what I think of you personally I will tolerate you.

so if you truly want to preach equality people can stop the religion bashing respect their beliefs as much as you should respect a homosexuals choices and beliefs.

unfortunately people like to take sides based on one choice is right and one choice is wrong, where as you really should start thinking (if you care about equality) that both choices are right.

I haven't ever suggested that religions should be forced to marry people, nor have I suggested that the religious are in any way not equal

I've criticised your Church and you've decided to take it personally. As a personal attack on your right to faith. That's your problem not mine.

I do not respect your religion in any way. However, I would never deny anyone the RIGHT to believe. You seem to think that because I have stated lots of facts about the Cathloic Church's shameful past, that automatically means I would deny everyone the right to follow it. Wrong.

I believe that everyone has the right to faith, just like everyone has a right to be homosexual. However, I also believe that everyone has the right to free speech.

You've taken my criticism of your Church as an attack on personal belief. It isn't.

I'm with Clint.

goes both ways though, your not very good at this equality thing are you.

Explain.

ok the rights of gay people are just as important as the rights of all religions, as both are part of the human rights act.

so if you believe gay people should be allowed to get married because you believe all people should be equal (which I believe all people should be). In the fight for equality you should fight equally hard for the rights of gay people and the rights of the religions.

do gay people have the right to be married - yes
do religions have the right to choose who they want to marry based on their religious beliefs - yes

this is why the word equality is the worst word people could have used, it should be tolerance, as in despite what I think of you personally I will tolerate you.

so if you truly want to preach equality people can stop the religion bashing respect their beliefs as much as you should respect a homosexuals choices and beliefs.

unfortunately people like to take sides based on one choice is right and one choice is wrong, where as you really should start thinking (if you care about equality) that both choices are right.

I haven't ever suggested that religions should be forced to marry people, nor have I suggested that the religious are in any way not equal

I've criticised your Church and you've decided to take it personally. As a personal attack on your right to faith. That's your problem not mine.

I do not respect your religion in any way. However, I would never deny anyone the RIGHT to believe. You seem to think that because I have stated lots of facts about the Cathloic Church's shameful past, that automatically means I would deny everyone the right to follow it. Wrong.

I believe that everyone has the right to faith, just like everyone has a right to be homosexual. However, I also believe that everyone has the right to free speech.

You've taken my criticism of your Church as an attack on personal belief. It isn't.

what a load of rubbish

you havent stated facts at all your whole 'fact' based argument is brought from the same usual drivel people come out with, which just shows a lack of education, no sorry ill retract that a lack of intelligence because despite the many times ive told your wrong, you cling on to your 'facts' like a child clings on to a security blanket.

If you want to defend your freedom of speech, I would suggest you learn the consequence to freedom of speech and that is you are responsible for your words.

If you attack my religion, you attack my beliefs. Which is a very definite show of discrimination which you seem to be so proud of. Ive asked you time and time again not only in this thread but in others to show me proof of how my church discriminates the gay community and you run away because you have no answer. You just spout the same rubbish over and over again.

Now you put a a poster of a clint eastwood quote stating that the sanctity of marriage is an idiotic excuse, well thats a bigoted discriminatory view and doesnt show any sort of equality or respect.

So I would say stop making yourself look stupid and walk away

I'm with Clint.

goes both ways though, your not very good at this equality thing are you.

Explain.

ok the rights of gay people are just as important as the rights of all religions, as both are part of the human rights act.

so if you believe gay people should be allowed to get married because you believe all people should be equal (which I believe all people should be). In the fight for equality you should fight equally hard for the rights of gay people and the rights of the religions.

do gay people have the right to be married - yes
do religions have the right to choose who they want to marry based on their religious beliefs - yes

this is why the word equality is the worst word people could have used, it should be tolerance, as in despite what I think of you personally I will tolerate you.

so if you truly want to preach equality people can stop the religion bashing respect their beliefs as much as you should respect a homosexuals choices and beliefs.

unfortunately people like to take sides based on one choice is right and one choice is wrong, where as you really should start thinking (if you care about equality) that both choices are right.

I haven't ever suggested that religions should be forced to marry people, nor have I suggested that the religious are in any way not equal

I've criticised your Church and you've decided to take it personally. As a personal attack on your right to faith. That's your problem not mine.

I do not respect your religion in any way. However, I would never deny anyone the RIGHT to believe. You seem to think that because I have stated lots of facts about the Cathloic Church's shameful past, that automatically means I would deny everyone the right to follow it. Wrong.

I believe that everyone has the right to faith, just like everyone has a right to be homosexual. However, I also believe that everyone has the right to free speech.

You've taken my criticism of your Church as an attack on personal belief. It isn't.

what a load of rubbish

you havent stated facts at all your whole 'fact' based argument is brought from the same usual drivel people come out with, which just shows a lack of education, no sorry ill retract that a lack of intelligence because despite the many times ive told your wrong, you cling on to your 'facts' like a child clings on to a security blanket.

If you want to defend your freedom of speech, I would suggest you learn the consequence to freedom of speech and that is you are responsible for your words.

If you attack my religion, you attack my beliefs. Which is a very definite show of discrimination which you seem to be so proud of. Ive asked you time and time again not only in this thread but in others to show me proof of how my church discriminates the gay community and you run away because you have no answer. You just spout the same rubbish over and over again.

Now you put a a poster of a clint eastwood quote stating that the sanctity of marriage is an idiotic excuse, well thats a bigoted discriminatory view and doesnt show any sort of equality or respect.

So I would say stop making yourself look stupid and walk away

Religious people shouldn't talk about facts really, I could give you few, doubt you would like them though...

what a load of rubbish

you havent stated facts at all your whole 'fact' based argument is brought from the same usual drivel people come out with, which just shows a lack of education, no sorry ill retract that a lack of intelligence because despite the many times ive told your wrong, you cling on to your 'facts' like a child clings on to a security blanket.

If you want to defend your freedom of speech, I would suggest you learn the consequence to freedom of speech and that is you are responsible for your words.

If you attack my religion, you attack my beliefs. Which is a very definite show of discrimination which you seem to be so proud of. Ive asked you time and time again not only in this thread but in others to show me proof of how my church discriminates the gay community and you run away because you have no answer. You just spout the same rubbish over and over again.

Now you put a a poster of a clint eastwood quote stating that the sanctity of marriage is an idiotic excuse, well thats a bigoted discriminatory view and doesnt show any sort of equality or respect.

So I would say stop making yourself look stupid and walk away

You seem to be losing your head a bit there, I'd take a breath if I were you.

Why should any religion be exempt from criticism? That's not lack of respect or discrimination, that's questioning and it's questioning that causes progression. (Something that the Catholic Church is hardly familiar with).

I have stated facts. The facts are as follows:

1) The Catholic Church is homophobic.

2) The Catholic Church is mysogynistic.

3)The Catholic church holds responsibility for the Crusades, the Inquisition, the persecution of the Jewish people, the torture of Gallileo, the repression and maltreatment of women (that's half the human race in other words) and the forced conversion of indigenous people; most notably in South America. Furthermore, Catholicism has blood on its hands from the African Slave trade, as well as the Third Reich's attempted elimination of the Jewish race; in which the Catholic church remained all too quiet during Hitler's 'Final solution'.

Moving swiftly on.

You say I 'cling on to my facts like a child clings on to a security blanket' Hilarious! You do realise that all good debate is founded on facts? You do realise that facts are concrete and indisputible? You do realise that this is a conflict between my solid facts and your Catholic bias?

and anyway, what would a religious person know about facts? Hardly your specialist topic is it? In fact, your ENTIRE belief system is based on LACK of facts.

Yes, I am TOTALLY responsible for my words. I'm free to criticise your church, and I will do so openly. If you criticised my athiesm I wouldn't care.

How am I discriminating? I'm stating facts about the history of your church, the systematic child abuse that occurs, and the homophobia and sexism that is so rife within it. Please explain how stating facts is discrimination How am I denying you the right to faith? Or the same rights as everyone else? How odd.

Here's an interesting article you may (or may not) want to read:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... homophobia

The pope – whose own track record on men who sodomize children isn't exactly stellar – meets one of the people whose hateful policies not only provide social cover and justification for that violence but, if enacted, would put state power behind the imprisonment and execution of gay people. Hmmm, interesting.

The Church, it seems, is a bit like a schoolyard bully, needing to pick a scapegoat to demonstrate its ultimate authority. Women have spent the past several centuries serving as that target. Homosexuals are the next in line it seems.

Furthermore, you ask for proof of how your church discriminates against gays and I have provided many answers. You have chosen to ignore these so I'll repeat myself. The Catholic Church refers to gays as, and I quote,

'Disordered and morally evil individuals'.

I rest my case with that quote.

N.B I'll ignore your strange personal attacks on my intelligence as I refuse to sink to your level.

I'm with Clint.

goes both ways though, your not very good at this equality thing are you.

Explain.

ok the rights of gay people are just as important as the rights of all religions, as both are part of the human rights act.

so if you believe gay people should be allowed to get married because you believe all people should be equal (which I believe all people should be). In the fight for equality you should fight equally hard for the rights of gay people and the rights of the religions.

do gay people have the right to be married - yes
do religions have the right to choose who they want to marry based on their religious beliefs - yes

this is why the word equality is the worst word people could have used, it should be tolerance, as in despite what I think of you personally I will tolerate you.

so if you truly want to preach equality people can stop the religion bashing respect their beliefs as much as you should respect a homosexuals choices and beliefs.

unfortunately people like to take sides based on one choice is right and one choice is wrong, where as you really should start thinking (if you care about equality) that both choices are right.

I haven't ever suggested that religions should be forced to marry people, nor have I suggested that the religious are in any way not equal

I've criticised your Church and you've decided to take it personally. As a personal attack on your right to faith. That's your problem not mine.

I do not respect your religion in any way. However, I would never deny anyone the RIGHT to believe. You seem to think that because I have stated lots of facts about the Cathloic Church's shameful past, that automatically means I would deny everyone the right to follow it. Wrong.

I believe that everyone has the right to faith, just like everyone has a right to be homosexual. However, I also believe that everyone has the right to free speech.

You've taken my criticism of your Church as an attack on personal belief. It isn't.

what a load of rubbish

you havent stated facts at all your whole 'fact' based argument is brought from the same usual drivel people come out with, which just shows a lack of education, no sorry ill retract that a lack of intelligence because despite the many times ive told your wrong, you cling on to your 'facts' like a child clings on to a security blanket.

If you want to defend your freedom of speech, I would suggest you learn the consequence to freedom of speech and that is you are responsible for your words.

If you attack my religion, you attack my beliefs. Which is a very definite show of discrimination which you seem to be so proud of. Ive asked you time and time again not only in this thread but in others to show me proof of how my church discriminates the gay community and you run away because you have no answer. You just spout the same rubbish over and over again.

Now you put a a poster of a clint eastwood quote stating that the sanctity of marriage is an idiotic excuse, well thats a bigoted discriminatory view and doesnt show any sort of equality or respect.

So I would say stop making yourself look stupid and walk away

Religons should not be forced to marry same sex couples but they should be given the choice.

The main concern is that same sex couple are given the same rights as straight couples which they arent. The important thing thing is that EVERYONE is given equality and fairness.

Honestly, you'll probably disagree with me with this but the state needs to seperate itself from the church and allow "marrige" or whatever you call it for all people. Not everyone is religous and they should be allowed to "join as a union" without the consent of God and given the same rights. You should only be properly married if you are religous not because its what you have to do.

what a load of rubbish

you havent stated facts at all your whole 'fact' based argument is brought from the same usual drivel people come out with, which just shows a lack of education, no sorry ill retract that a lack of intelligence because despite the many times ive told your wrong, you cling on to your 'facts' like a child clings on to a security blanket.

If you want to defend your freedom of speech, I would suggest you learn the consequence to freedom of speech and that is you are responsible for your words.

If you attack my religion, you attack my beliefs. Which is a very definite show of discrimination which you seem to be so proud of. Ive asked you time and time again not only in this thread but in others to show me proof of how my church discriminates the gay community and you run away because you have no answer. You just spout the same rubbish over and over again.

Now you put a a poster of a clint eastwood quote stating that the sanctity of marriage is an idiotic excuse, well thats a bigoted discriminatory view and doesnt show any sort of equality or respect.

So I would say stop making yourself look stupid and walk away

You seem to be losing your head a bit there, I'd take a breath if I were you.

Why should any religion be exempt from criticism? That's not lack of respect or discrimination, that's questioning and it's questioning that causes progression. (Something that the Catholic Church is hardly familiar with).

I have stated facts. The facts are as follows:

1) The Catholic Church is homophobic.

2) The Catholic Church is mysogynistic.

3)The Catholic church holds responsibility for the Crusades, the Inquisition, the persecution of the Jewish people, the torture of Gallileo, the repression and maltreatment of women (that's half the human race in other words) and the forced conversion of indigenous people; most notably in South America. Furthermore, Catholicism has blood on its hands from the African Slave trade, as well as the Third Reich's attempted elimination of the Jewish race; in which the Catholic church remained all too quiet during Hitler's 'Final solution'.

Moving swiftly on.

You say I 'cling on to my facts like a child clings on to a security blanket' Hilarious! You do realise that all good debate is founded on facts? You do realise that facts are concrete and indisputible? You do realise that this is a conflict between my solid facts and your Catholic bias?

and anyway, what would a religious person know about facts? Hardly your specialist topic is it? In fact, your ENTIRE belief system is based on LACK of facts.

Yes, I am TOTALLY responsible for my words. I'm free to criticise your church, and I will do so openly. If you criticised my athiesm I wouldn't care.

How am I discriminating? I'm stating facts about the history of your church, the systematic child abuse that occurs, and the homophobia and sexism that is so rife within it. Please explain how stating facts is discrimination How am I denying you the right to faith? Or the same rights as everyone else? How odd.

Here's an interesting article you may (or may not) want to read:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... homophobia

The pope – whose own track record on men who sodomize children isn't exactly stellar – meets one of the people whose hateful policies not only provide social cover and justification for that violence but, if enacted, would put state power behind the imprisonment and execution of gay people. Hmmm, interesting.

The Church, it seems, is a bit like a schoolyard bully, needing to pick a scapegoat to demonstrate its ultimate authority. Women have spent the past several centuries serving as that target. Homosexuals are the next in line it seems.

Furthermore, you ask for proof of how your church discriminates against gays and I have provided many answers. You have chosen to ignore these so I'll repeat myself. The Catholic Church refers to gays as, and I quote,

'Disordered and morally evil individuals'.

I rest my case with that quote.

N.B I'll ignore your strange personal attacks on my intelligence as I refuse to sink to your level.

I take it your on repeat, this is exactly the same stuff ive told you that you are incorrect on but hey dont let that get in your way.
If you want to debate something you actually have to acknowledge the other persons point of view and appreciate their explanation but you seem to struggle with that bit.

The Catholic church shouldnt be exempt from criticism far from it, the Catholic church should face such criticism head on, like I have but you wont listen.

I have explained how the catholic church is not homophobic but you will not acknowledge it you just ignore it.

We havent got into discrimination of women or mysogyny (how long did it take you to find that word in the dictionary I wonder) but I can disprove that but I am starting to wonder whats the point because you wont listen to that either.

If you want to talk about facts ive got years of studying my religion behind me im not sure you can say the same.

I dont know how many times I have to explain things to you.

Your quotes are misinterpreted ive already explained this but I will do it again

The Catholic church DOES NOT refer gay people as 'disordered and morally evil individuals', What they are is not disordered or morally evil, the choices they make in life are, the same as any individual homosexual, heterosexual, male or female. If a straight man decides to fornicate (thats sex outside of marriage) his actions will be considered disordered and morally evil. He will have to go to the confessional confess his sins and he will be forgiven.

The Catholic church does not discriminate against women, true, women cannot become priests but they can become nuns if they so choose and their voices are listened to just as a mans voice. Women have a lot of influence within the Catholic church from religious orders and lay groups.

If you want to get into the abortion argument since it was brought up in the article you posted, the Catholic Church and my religion is not concerned with a man or woman its concerned about the protection of the innocent, the innocent being the life growing inside a womans body, let me explain what ever reason you find yourself pregnant an innocent life has been created and has a right to life. So dont see a lot of discrimination there.

As for your Ugandan argument the Church has never given its blessing to execute gay people, despite what a Ugandan politician says but then it wouldnt be the first time weve known a politician to lie to get what they want would it, but if that is the political will in Uganda so be it I have no control over their domestic policies and neither does the Catholic church, they are only about 60 years behind Britain when it made homosexuality illegal and put every known gay man on a sex offenders register and considered every gay man a potential pedophile, thats not a Catholic issue thats a social issue, as ive explained before do not underestimate the influences society has on peoples religious belief or overestimate the influence religion has on society. Its called free will.

I'm with Clint.

goes both ways though, your not very good at this equality thing are you.

Explain.

ok the rights of gay people are just as important as the rights of all religions, as both are part of the human rights act.

so if you believe gay people should be allowed to get married because you believe all people should be equal (which I believe all people should be). In the fight for equality you should fight equally hard for the rights of gay people and the rights of the religions.

do gay people have the right to be married - yes
do religions have the right to choose who they want to marry based on their religious beliefs - yes

this is why the word equality is the worst word people could have used, it should be tolerance, as in despite what I think of you personally I will tolerate you.

so if you truly want to preach equality people can stop the religion bashing respect their beliefs as much as you should respect a homosexuals choices and beliefs.

unfortunately people like to take sides based on one choice is right and one choice is wrong, where as you really should start thinking (if you care about equality) that both choices are right.

I haven't ever suggested that religions should be forced to marry people, nor have I suggested that the religious are in any way not equal

I've criticised your Church and you've decided to take it personally. As a personal attack on your right to faith. That's your problem not mine.

I do not respect your religion in any way. However, I would never deny anyone the RIGHT to believe. You seem to think that because I have stated lots of facts about the Cathloic Church's shameful past, that automatically means I would deny everyone the right to follow it. Wrong.

I believe that everyone has the right to faith, just like everyone has a right to be homosexual. However, I also believe that everyone has the right to free speech.

You've taken my criticism of your Church as an attack on personal belief. It isn't.

what a load of rubbish

you havent stated facts at all your whole 'fact' based argument is brought from the same usual drivel people come out with, which just shows a lack of education, no sorry ill retract that a lack of intelligence because despite the many times ive told your wrong, you cling on to your 'facts' like a child clings on to a security blanket.

If you want to defend your freedom of speech, I would suggest you learn the consequence to freedom of speech and that is you are responsible for your words.

If you attack my religion, you attack my beliefs. Which is a very definite show of discrimination which you seem to be so proud of. Ive asked you time and time again not only in this thread but in others to show me proof of how my church discriminates the gay community and you run away because you have no answer. You just spout the same rubbish over and over again.

Now you put a a poster of a clint eastwood quote stating that the sanctity of marriage is an idiotic excuse, well thats a bigoted discriminatory view and doesnt show any sort of equality or respect.

So I would say stop making yourself look stupid and walk away

Religons should not be forced to marry same sex couples but they should be given the choice.

The main concern is that same sex couple are given the same rights as straight couples which they arent. The important thing thing is that EVERYONE is given equality and fairness.

Honestly, you'll probably disagree with me with this but the state needs to seperate itself from the church and allow "marrige" or whatever you call it for all people. Not everyone is religous and they should be allowed to "join as a union" without the consent of God and given the same rights. You should only be properly married if you are religous not because its what you have to do.[/quote]

'Religions should not be forced to marry same sex couples but they should be given the choice'
Completely agree also these choices are down to each individual religion.

'The main concern is that same sex couple are given the same rights as straight couples which they arent. The important thing thing is that EVERYONE is given equality and fairness'
Same sex couples were given the same protection and rights as straight couples it was called a civil partnership. Now if the bill goes through gay couples will now have to options where straight couples will be left with one. Questions in the House of Commons have already asked when will civil partnerships be made legal for straight couples.

Honestly, you'll probably disagree with me with this but the state needs to seperate itself from the church and allow "marrige" or whatever you call it for all people. Not everyone is religous and they should be allowed to "join as a union" without the consent of God and given the same rights. You should only be properly married if you are religous not because its what you have to do

Completely agree religion and state should be separate but im Catholic this is not an issue for me, my religion is separate from state, this is a Church of England issue, there are no Catholic Bishops in the House of Lords.
The UK has put itself in this mess because the church and state are not separate.