ELECTION DAY " CONSERVATIVE WIN THE ELECTION “.

Wrong.

The information is incorrect.

I've now deleted the topic because it's a lie.

its ok to not delete libelous rumours but ok to delete labour lies being put out there with the dirty washing ?

It isn’t even libellous. They are confirmed stories with the “offending party” (the hospital) conforming it.

Worcester has read some silly tweets that people have since backed away from and has taken it as the truth. In reality he’s believing what he wants to believe and shaping discussion to that standard.

Propaganda in other words, which means the truth is often not important. Which seems the case here.

I was referring to the Warnock thread....
the rest I agree with.

A medical secretary has claimed that her Facebook account was hacked after it was used to post false information claiming that a photograph of an ill boy on the floor at Leeds General Infirmary was staged for political purposes.

The woman denied posting the allegation that four-year-old Jack Willment-Barr’s mother placed him on the floor specifically to take the picture which became symbolic of the NHS’s troubles after it appeared on the front page of Monday’s Daily Mirror.

“I was hacked. I am not a nurse and I certainly don’t know anyone in Leeds,” said the woman, whose name the Guardian is withholding because she says she has received death threats. “I’ve had to delete everything as I have had death threats to myself and my children.”

The original viral post on the medical secretary’s Facebook account said, “I am a nurse myself” and cited a “good friend of mine” at Leeds General. It claimed the boy in the photo “was in fact put there by his mother who then took photos on her mobile phone and then uploaded it to media outlets”. The post dismissed the pictures of the ill boy as “another Momentum propaganda story”, despite the fact the hospital had already apologised for his treatment.

Despite the claim that the photo was staged having been acknowledged as false, it has continued to spread on both Facebook and Twitter, largely through individual low-follower accounts cutting and pasting the original text to share with their friends

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I thought Sir Alan Sugars comments were interesting.
"Jeremy Corbyn has turned Labour into a negative anti business party that is clueless on how the economy works. His spending splurge is complete madness. "
That, from a life long Labour supporter , a labour peer, an arch remainer and although a leading Jew, it contained no reference to any anti Semitism concerns. So concerned of Labour's threat to the economy, he's urging voters to vote for Boris Johnson. As usual its not reported by the BBC, it doesn't fit the narrative.
The country wakes up on Friday morning with Corbyn as PM then so be it. The Youth will get the European country they want and in short time they'll get the youth unemployment to match.

You've lost all credibility when your argument is to blame young people if Labour win.

It’s perfectly valid to blame the gullible youth if they blindly vote for a party who have malice aforethought for the economic base of the country, when they have no inkling of how devastating it was in the 1970’s under the control of the Unions.

The dangers of tactical voting also mustn’t be underestimated. In a lot of seats a vote for the Lib Dem’s or Brexit or any independent candidate will be as good as a vote for Corbyn.

Ok then, boomers are responsible for the global 2008 financial crisis and all the mess that came afterwards.
See i can generalise an entire generation too.
like i said all your credibility has gone out the window so whatever you say now can't be taken seriously.

I'm not blaming the youth, they've been brain washed into thinking that all for for free and comes with no consequences. It wont matter much to me whether we have a labour government or not, I wont be picking up the bill. That's for my kids and your kids, my employees and their kids. Employment prospects for those coming out of school / university will get very bad very quickly. If Alan Sugar is deserting Labour because of the catastrophic financial implications doesn't that deserve consideration. The BBC clearly think not.

Only a matter of time till this blatantly bias organisation loses public funding. Johnson was saying he wants to change evading the licence fee from a criminal to a civil offence.

Andrew Neil, Nick Robinson, Andrew Marr, Laura Kuenssberg are all Tory supporters. Robinson was chairman of Cheshire, Neil edit of Spectator. When you really think about it the BBC simply can’t win. Know to be left sympathizers in general but with right wing presenters!

I looked at the BBC website a few weeks ago about 0330 and saw the article below. Within a few hours the article had to be searched for, as the remain biased BBC didn't want us to know about it.

Sweden's 100 explosions this year: What's going on?
One hundred and sixty two explosions in 2018, yes 162 and 97 in the first 9 months of this year, yet this is the first I've heard about this problem. Seems like another case of keeping the information from us in case it damages the reputation of the EU's immigration policy. Two years ago they tried to cover up the rapes by immigrant gangs, which sounds strangely familiar to what has happened in places like Rotherham and Cologne.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-50339977
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/01/its ... -shameful/

I thought Sir Alan Sugars comments were interesting.
"Jeremy Corbyn has turned Labour into a negative anti business party that is clueless on how the economy works. His spending splurge is complete madness. "
That, from a life long Labour supporter , a labour peer, an arch remainer and although a leading Jew, it contained no reference to any anti Semitism concerns. So concerned of Labour's threat to the economy, he's urging voters to vote for Boris Johnson. As usual its not reported by the BBC, it doesn't fit the narrative.
The country wakes up on Friday morning with Corbyn as PM then so be it. The Youth will get the European country they want and in short time they'll get the youth unemployment to match.

You've lost all credibility when your argument is to blame young people if Labour win.

It’s perfectly valid to blame the gullible youth if they blindly vote for a party who have malice aforethought for the economic base of the country, when they have no inkling of how devastating it was in the 1970’s under the control of the Unions.

The dangers of tactical voting also mustn’t be underestimated. In a lot of seats a vote for the Lib Dem’s or Brexit or any independent candidate will be as good as a vote for Corbyn.

Ok then, boomers are responsible for the global 2008 financial crisis and all the mess that came afterwards.
See i can generalise an entire generation too.
like i said all your credibility has gone out the window so whatever you say now can't be taken seriously.

I'm not blaming the youth, they've been brain washed into thinking that all for for free and comes with no consequences. It wont matter much to me whether we have a labour government or not, I wont be picking up the bill. That's for my kids and your kids, my employees and their kids. Employment prospects for those coming out of school / university will get very bad very quickly. If Alan Sugar is deserting Labour because of the catastrophic financial implications doesn't that deserve consideration. The BBC clearly think not.

Only a matter of time till this blatantly bias organisation loses public funding. Johnson was saying he wants to change evading the licence fee from a criminal to a civil offence.

Andrew Neil, Nick Robinson, Andrew Marr, Laura Kuenssberg are all Tory supporters. Robinson was chairman of Cheshire, Neil edit of Spectator. When you really think about it the BBC simply can’t win. Know to be left sympathizers in general but with right wing presenters!

while your here ,have a good read of Popeyes post and then try and defend Plaids immigration policy.

The left who are so keen on the Government borrowing billions won’t be so keen when their wage slips have a disproportionate amount of tax sliced out of it, and their mortgages increase and their savings eroded by inflation.

That is until they are made unemployed as the economy totally crashes, and their houses repossessed.

And McDonnell and Corbyn the architects of this catastrophe will slope off to their second homes on a fat civil service pension funded by the public.

But the point is the additional won’t be paid by the vast majority of NHS workers so they will perfectly happy.

As for the comment about the Labour leaders and their civil service pensions; you do know that will be the same for all the multi millionaire Tory MPs too don’t you ?

So your point is !!!!!????

I actually don’t have an issue with MP pay. If we don’t pay a decent wage we’ll be left with MPs of inherited wealth only which is not healthy for any party !!

I thought Sir Alan Sugars comments were interesting.
"Jeremy Corbyn has turned Labour into a negative anti business party that is clueless on how the economy works. His spending splurge is complete madness. "
That, from a life long Labour supporter , a labour peer, an arch remainer and although a leading Jew, it contained no reference to any anti Semitism concerns. So concerned of Labour's threat to the economy, he's urging voters to vote for Boris Johnson. As usual its not reported by the BBC, it doesn't fit the narrative.
The country wakes up on Friday morning with Corbyn as PM then so be it. The Youth will get the European country they want and in short time they'll get the youth unemployment to match.

You've lost all credibility when your argument is to blame young people if Labour win.

It’s perfectly valid to blame the gullible youth if they blindly vote for a party who have malice aforethought for the economic base of the country, when they have no inkling of how devastating it was in the 1970’s under the control of the Unions.

The dangers of tactical voting also mustn’t be underestimated. In a lot of seats a vote for the Lib Dem’s or Brexit or any independent candidate will be as good as a vote for Corbyn.

Ok then, boomers are responsible for the global 2008 financial crisis and all the mess that came afterwards.
See i can generalise an entire generation too.
like i said all your credibility has gone out the window so whatever you say now can't be taken seriously.

I'm not blaming the youth, they've been brain washed into thinking that all for for free and comes with no consequences. It wont matter much to me whether we have a labour government or not, I wont be picking up the bill. That's for my kids and your kids, my employees and their kids. Employment prospects for those coming out of school / university will get very bad very quickly. If Alan Sugar is deserting Labour because of the catastrophic financial implications doesn't that deserve consideration. The BBC clearly think not.

Only a matter of time till this blatantly bias organisation loses public funding. Johnson was saying he wants to change evading the licence fee from a criminal to a civil offence.

Andrew Neil, Nick Robinson, Andrew Marr, Laura Kuenssberg are all Tory supporters. Robinson was chairman of Cheshire, Neil edit of Spectator. When you really think about it the BBC simply can’t win. Know to be left sympathizers in general but with right wing presenters!

Andrew Neil is a free marketeer but by far the most impartial interviewer. Which is why Boris avoided him.

The others are lefties aren't they? Wasn't Marr a Mao'ist or something in the past?

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Only came back to check something about tomorrow, can see why I left after reading through this topic.
A) The parent was a Tory until recently.
B) The health minister has apologised (who is a Tory)
C) the only other evidence to the contrary is a bunch of tweets by 'people' all saying exactly the same thing (and I mean word for word the same).

Not relevant to that post but throughout the thread people have been saying 'I'm voting conservative because of democracy...' Maybe you should look back a few months to when they unlawfully killed democracy outright and are now wanting to change the courts so the pm doesn't have to obey the laws... Aka a move towards dictatorship (and I'm not saying that they'll become dictators but it's a leap towards it).

Oh and TorySays, can you stop with pRoJeCt FeAr.

You need a dictator now and again to do things. Trump is a perfect example of that, after the gluey inertia left over by the worlds greatest waffler...

The left who are so keen on the Government borrowing billions won’t be so keen when their wage slips have a disproportionate amount of tax sliced out of it, and their mortgages increase and their savings eroded by inflation.

That is until they are made unemployed as the economy totally crashes, and their houses repossessed.

And McDonnell and Corbyn the architects of this catastrophe will slope off to their second homes on a fat civil service pension funded by the public.

But the point is the additional won’t be paid by the vast majority of NHS workers so they will perfectly happy.

As for the comment about the Labour leaders and their civil service pensions; you do know that will be the same for all the multi millionaire Tory MPs too don’t you ?

So your point is !!!!!????

I actually don’t have an issue with MP pay. If we don’t pay a decent wage we’ll be left with MPs of inherited wealth only which is not healthy for any party !!

My point was those two traitors to basic economics wouldn’t suffer financially like all the millions of people who would due to their fanatical zeal to impact their Marxist ideology into our country.

They’re be free to write their memoirs [as to how they ruined the nation] whilst sipping brown ale in their properties paid by those they totally ruined.

I thought Sir Alan Sugars comments were interesting.
"Jeremy Corbyn has turned Labour into a negative anti business party that is clueless on how the economy works. His spending splurge is complete madness. "
That, from a life long Labour supporter , a labour peer, an arch remainer and although a leading Jew, it contained no reference to any anti Semitism concerns. So concerned of Labour's threat to the economy, he's urging voters to vote for Boris Johnson. As usual its not reported by the BBC, it doesn't fit the narrative.
The country wakes up on Friday morning with Corbyn as PM then so be it. The Youth will get the European country they want and in short time they'll get the youth unemployment to match.

You've lost all credibility when your argument is to blame young people if Labour win.

It’s perfectly valid to blame the gullible youth if they blindly vote for a party who have malice aforethought for the economic base of the country, when they have no inkling of how devastating it was in the 1970’s under the control of the Unions.

The dangers of tactical voting also mustn’t be underestimated. In a lot of seats a vote for the Lib Dem’s or Brexit or any independent candidate will be as good as a vote for Corbyn.

Ok then, boomers are responsible for the global 2008 financial crisis and all the mess that came afterwards.
See i can generalise an entire generation too.
like i said all your credibility has gone out the window so whatever you say now can't be taken seriously.

I'm not blaming the youth, they've been brain washed into thinking that all for for free and comes with no consequences. It wont matter much to me whether we have a labour government or not, I wont be picking up the bill. That's for my kids and your kids, my employees and their kids. Employment prospects for those coming out of school / university will get very bad very quickly. If Alan Sugar is deserting Labour because of the catastrophic financial implications doesn't that deserve consideration. The BBC clearly think not.

Only a matter of time till this blatantly bias organisation loses public funding. Johnson was saying he wants to change evading the licence fee from a criminal to a civil offence.

I wouldn't close the Beeb, the American system is privately funded by corporations with allegiance to the middle east and still brainwashing with left bias.

Cut the Beebs budget by 60% (arbitrary figure)
Change it's name.
Recruit new managenent strictly on political allegiances and ability.
Put "diversity of opinion" and ability infront of everything.

Sack Gary Lineker.

Your last point just swayed me.

History will be the UK press's judge - disgracefull bias. People in the UK are so gullible - they do not get 'joined up thinking' - or understand basic vocabulary; - 'rhetoric' being a prime example.
They do not question the fact that we are ruled by an elitist and damaged psychotic bunch of public school boys. You can lead a horse to water but you cannot force it to drink.
The truth is under their noses if only they had the brains to see - BOJO knows this and leading them all up the garden path to a catastrophic market driven corrupt society - where everyone is out for themselves and big fat egos rule - just like the USA.

Vote Labour

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I thought Sir Alan Sugars comments were interesting.
"Jeremy Corbyn has turned Labour into a negative anti business party that is clueless on how the economy works. His spending splurge is complete madness. "
That, from a life long Labour supporter , a labour peer, an arch remainer and although a leading Jew, it contained no reference to any anti Semitism concerns. So concerned of Labour's threat to the economy, he's urging voters to vote for Boris Johnson. As usual its not reported by the BBC, it doesn't fit the narrative.
The country wakes up on Friday morning with Corbyn as PM then so be it. The Youth will get the European country they want and in short time they'll get the youth unemployment to match.

You've lost all credibility when your argument is to blame young people if Labour win.

It’s perfectly valid to blame the gullible youth if they blindly vote for a party who have malice aforethought for the economic base of the country, when they have no inkling of how devastating it was in the 1970’s under the control of the Unions.

The dangers of tactical voting also mustn’t be underestimated. In a lot of seats a vote for the Lib Dem’s or Brexit or any independent candidate will be as good as a vote for Corbyn.

Ok then, boomers are responsible for the global 2008 financial crisis and all the mess that came afterwards.
See i can generalise an entire generation too.
like i said all your credibility has gone out the window so whatever you say now can't be taken seriously.

I'm not blaming the youth, they've been brain washed into thinking that all for for free and comes with no consequences. It wont matter much to me whether we have a labour government or not, I wont be picking up the bill. That's for my kids and your kids, my employees and their kids. Employment prospects for those coming out of school / university will get very bad very quickly. If Alan Sugar is deserting Labour because of the catastrophic financial implications doesn't that deserve consideration. The BBC clearly think not.

Only a matter of time till this blatantly bias organisation loses public funding. Johnson was saying he wants to change evading the licence fee from a criminal to a civil offence.

Andrew Neil, Nick Robinson, Andrew Marr, Laura Kuenssberg are all Tory supporters. Robinson was chairman of Cheshire, Neil edit of Spectator. When you really think about it the BBC simply can’t win. Know to be left sympathizers in general but with right wing presenters!

Christ you are a belter aren’t you, where do you get this made up shite from. Robinson is not a Tory and is vehemently anti Brexit. Andrew Marr is well Leftwing and sold the Trotskyist newspaper when he was in Uni. Kuennsberg doesn’t come across as pro Tory and while Neil is he doesn’t let his politics get in the way of grilling the lying bastards irrespective of what party they come from.
while your here ,have a good read of Popeyes post and then try and defend Plaids immigration policy.

History will be the UK press's judge - disgracefull bias. People in the UK are so gullible - they do not get 'joined up thinking' - or understand basic vocabulary; - 'rhetoric' being a prime example.
They do not question the fact that we are ruled by an elitist and damaged psychotic bunch of public school boys. You can lead a horse to water but you cannot force it to drink.
The truth is under their noses if only they had the brains to see - BOJO knows this and leading them all up the garden path to a catastrophic market driven corrupt society - where everyone is out for themselves and big fat egos rule - just like the USA.

Vote Labour

Well got to give you credit for banging your drum repeatedly on the same spot... even if gets bit tedious !

Vote conservative

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Annis the mother should be reported for child cruelty as she is the one who put child on floor if you believe what you read! Or hospital should be done for child neglect if they are responsible, Someone allowed this picture to appear for whatever reason ! Cannot believe in a million years this would happen no matter how pressured hospital was.. don't believe in coincidence with election couple days away very convenient.....

This will surprise some of my friends, but, I'm still a bit undecided about my vote direction this coming Thursday.

I've obviously taken into consideration what I consider to be the following swaying points on the two main parties.

On the one hand the Conservative Boris Johnson is a bit of a rascal with the ladies and can sometimes bend the truth a bit, he’s also a bit posh.
Pinches phones, and is responsible for pushbikes being left all over cities.

And on the other hand..

Labours Jeremy Corbyn Invited two IRA members to parliament two weeks after the Brighton bombing.
Attended Bloody Sunday commemoration with bomber Brendan McKenna.
Attended meeting with Provisional IRA member Raymond McCartney.
Hosted IRA linked Mitchell McLaughlin in parliament.
Spoke alongside IRA terrorist Martina Anderson.
Attended Sinn Fein dinner with IRA bomber Gerry Kelly.
Chaired Irish republican event with IRA bomber Brendan MacFarlane.
Attended Bobby Sands commemoration honouring IRA terrorists.
Stood in minute’s silence for IRA gunmen shot dead by the SAS.
Refused to condemn the IRA in Sky News interview.
Refused to condemn the IRA on Question Time.
Refused to condemn IRA violence in BBC radio interview.
Signed EDM after IRA Poppy massacre massacre blaming Britain for the deaths.
Arrested while protesting in support of Brighton bomber’s co-defendants.
Lobbied government to improve visiting conditions for IRA killers.
Attended Irish republican event calling for armed conflict against Britain.
Hired suspected IRA man Ronan Bennett as a parliamentary assistant.
Hired another aide closely linked to several convicted IRA terrorists.
Heavily involved with IRA sympathising newspaper London Labour Briefing.
Put up £20,000 bail money for IRA terror suspect Roisin McAliskey.
Didn’t support IRA ceasefire.
Said Hamas and Hezbollah are his “friends“.
Called for Hamas to be removed from terror banned list.
Called Hamas “serious and hard-working“.
Attended wreath-laying at grave of Munich massacre terrorist.
Attended conference with Hamas and PFLP.
Photographed smiling with Hezbollah flag.
Attended rally with Hezbollah and Al-Muhajiroun.
Repeatedly shared platforms with PFLP plane hijacker.
Hired aide who praised Hamas’ “spirit of resistance“.
Accepted £20,000 for state TV channel of terror-sponsoring Iranian regime.
Opposed banning Britons from travelling to Syria to fight for ISIS.
Defended rights of fighters returning from Syria.
Said ISIS supporters should not be prosecuted.
Compared fighters returning from Syria to Nelson Mandela.
Said the death of Osama Bin Laden was a “tragedy“.
Wouldn’t sanction drone strike to kill ISIS leader.
Voted to allow ISIS fighters to return from Syria.
Opposed shoot to kill.
Attended event organised by terrorist sympathising IHRC.
Signed letter defending Lockerbie bombing suspects.
Wrote letter in support of conman accused of fundraising for ISIS.
Spoke of “friendship” with Mo Kozbar, who called for destruction of Israel.
Attended event with Abdullah Djaballah, who called for holy war against UK.
Called drone strikes against terrorists “obscene”.
Boasted about “opposing anti-terror legislation”.
Said laws banning jihadis from returning to Britain are “strange”.
Accepted £5,000 donation from terror supporter Ted Honderich.
Accepted £2,800 trip to Gaza from banned Islamist organisation Interpal.
Called Ibrahim Hewitt, extremist and chair of Interpal, a “very good friend”.
Accepted two more trips from the pro-Hamas group PRC.
Speaker at conference hosted by pro-Hamas group MEMO.
Met Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh several times.
Hosted meeting with Mousa Abu Maria of banned group Islamic Jihad.
Patron of Palestine Solidarity Campaign – marches attended by Hezbollah.
Compared Israel to ISIS, Hamas, Hezbollah and al-Qaeda.
Said we should not make “value judgements” about Britons who fight for ISIS.
Received endorsement from Hamas.
Attended event with Islamic extremist Suliman Gani.
Chaired Stop the War, who praised “internationalism and solidarity” of ISIS.
Praised Raed Salah, who was jailed for inciting violence in Israel.
Signed letter defending jihadist advocacy group Cage.
Met Dyab Jahjah, who praised the killing of British soldiers.
Shared platform with representative of extremist cleric Muqtada al-Sadr.
Compared ISIS to US military in interview on Russia Today.
Opposed proscription of Hizb ut-Tahrir.
Attended conference which called on Iraqis to kill British soldiers.
Attended Al-Quds Day demonstration in support of destruction of Israel.
Supported Hamas and ISIS-linked Viva Palestina group.
Attended protest with Islamic extremist Moazzam Begg.
Made the “case for Iran” at event hosted by Khomeinist group.
Photographed smiling with Azzam Tamimi, who backed suicide bombings.
Photographed with Abdel Atwan, who sympathised with attacks on US troops.
Said Hamas should “have tea with the Queen”.
Attended ‘Meet the Resistance’ event with Hezbollah MP Hussein El Haj.
Attended event with Haifa Zangana, who praised Palestinian “mujahideen”.
Defended the infamous anti-Semitic Hamas supporter Stephen Sizer.
Attended event with pro-Hamas and Hezbollah group Naturei Karta.
Backed Holocaust denying anti-Zionist extremist Paul Eisen.
Photographed with Abdul Raoof Al Shayeb, later jailed for terror offences.
Mocked “anti-terror hysteria” while opposing powers for security services.
Named on speakers list for conference with Hamas sympathiser Ismail Patel.
Criticised drone strike that killed Jihadi John.
Said the 7/7 bombers had been denied “hope and opportunity”.
Said 9/11 was “manipulated” to make it look like bin Laden was responsible.
Failed to unequivocally condemn the 9/11 attacks.
Called Columbian terror group M-19 “comrades”.
Blamed beheading of Alan Henning on Britain.
Gave speech in support of Gaddafi regime.
Signed EDM spinning for Slobodan Milosevic.
Blamed Tunisia terror attack on “austerity”.
Voted against banning support for the IRA.
Voted against the Prevention of Terrorism Act three times during the Troubles.
Voted against emergency counter-terror laws after 9/11.
Voted against stricter punishments for being a member of a terror group.
Voted against criminalising the encouragement of terrorism.
Voted against banning al-Qaeda.
Voted against outlawing the glorification of terror.
Voted against control orders.
Voted against increased funding for the security services to combat terrorism.
AND he’s don’t like Marmite

So it’s a tricky one really

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Annis the mother should be reported for child cruelty as she is the one who put child on floor if you believe what you read! Or hospital should be done for child neglect if they are responsible, Someone allowed this picture to appear for whatever reason ! Cannot believe in a million years this would happen no matter how pressured hospital was.. don't believe in coincidence with election couple days away very convenient.....

Allan,I agree but how low do they go to stage something like that

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Most people don't realise that it was a Tory, Churchill who commissioned the Beveridge report in 1940 into a National Health Service in 1942. Liberal Beveridge delivered the report in 1942. In 1945 Churchill proposes the NHS in his election manifesto, but loses. In 1948 Nye Bevan actions the Churchill-Beveridge proposals. In 1951 the re-elected Churchill pumps more money into the NHS than Bevan ever did.

SO WHY DO THE LABOUR PARTY MAKE OUT THAT THEY ARE SOLELY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE NHS?

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Annis the mother should be reported for child cruelty as she is the one who put child on floor if you believe what you read! Or hospital should be done for child neglect if they are responsible, Someone allowed this picture to appear for whatever reason ! Cannot believe in a million years this would happen no matter how pressured hospital was.. don't believe in coincidence with election couple days away very convenient.....

Allan,I agree but how low do they go to stage something like that

Probably labour activist or party member Money passing hands even? One story read she put him on floor took picture and put him back on trolley? I defy anyone to say they know of anyone being treated on floor at a hospital? Anyway its coming back to bite whoever on arse for being stupid...

Just to balance up some of the Tory fake news and bull#%*t https://sputniknews.com/columnists/2019 ... vote-tory/

Just to balance up some of the Tory fake news and bull#%*t https://sputniknews.com/columnists/2019 ... vote-tory/

not sure it balances things up.

but SPUTNIKNEWS certainly explains where the drivel emanates from .

The rubbish in the press recently is why I have been saying for weeks that we should take everything in these rags with a pinch of salt. Every election is the same, nonsense spouted from both sides. They are as bad as each other in this respect, but this election has been worse than ever with the gutter press reaching a peak that they have not manged previously. This is the reason I base my vote on personal experience and events I actually witness rather than stories fabricated in the media by both sides. It would be nice if a newspaper could report a few facts now and again, but it looks as if those days are long gone. That goes for all of them, whether it be The Sun or The Mirror or any of the others, with the BBC not far behind. Better off reading The Dandy or The Beano, probably going to get a more realistic view of the world in one of those.

Just to balance up some of the Tory fake news and bull#%*t https://sputniknews.com/columnists/2019 ... vote-tory/

not sure it balances things up.

but SPUTNIKNEWS certainly explains where the drivel emanates from .

It’s called irony !! It’s OK for people to on here to believe and post Tory fake news and articles from the Tory press but not OK to post something that is clearly a left wing propaganda site even by my admission !!

Tory voters seem to believe anything pro-Tory but anything pro-Labour has to be lies !!

You couldn’t make it up !!

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Only came back to check something about tomorrow, can see why I left after reading through this topic.
A) The parent was a Tory until recently.
B) The health minister has apologised (who is a Tory)
C) the only other evidence to the contrary is a bunch of tweets by 'people' all saying exactly the same thing (and I mean word for word the same).

Not relevant to that post but throughout the thread people have been saying 'I'm voting conservative because of democracy...' Maybe you should look back a few months to when they unlawfully killed democracy outright and are now wanting to change the courts so the pm doesn't have to obey the laws... Aka a move towards dictatorship (and I'm not saying that they'll become dictators but it's a leap towards it).

Oh and TorySays, can you stop with pRoJeCt FeAr.

Tory until recently. Not a Tory then

JOSH Why did you quit? it's not like we're on Question Time affecting change. We're all City boys at the end of it.

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Annis this has proven to be incorrect. People are just re-tweeting and copy and pasting it. The hospital has already apologised and the source of that picture you posted is claiming to be hacked.

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A medical secretary has claimed that her Facebook account was hacked after it was used to post false information claiming that a photograph of an ill boy on the floor at Leeds General Infirmary was staged for political purposes.

The woman denied posting the allegation that four-year-old Jack Willment-Barr’s mother placed him on the floor specifically to take the picture which became symbolic of the NHS’s troubles after it appeared on the front page of Monday’s Daily Mirror.

“I was hacked. I am not a nurse and I certainly don’t know anyone in Leeds,” said the woman, whose name the Guardian is withholding because she says she has received death threats. “I’ve had to delete everything as I have had death threats to myself and my children.”

The original viral post on the medical secretary’s Facebook account said, “I am a nurse myself” and cited a “good friend of mine” at Leeds General. It claimed the boy in the photo “was in fact put there by his mother who then took photos on her mobile phone and then uploaded it to media outlets”. The post dismissed the pictures of the ill boy as “another Momentum propaganda story”, despite the fact the hospital had already apologised for his treatment.

Despite the claim that the photo was staged having been acknowledged as false, it has continued to spread on both Facebook and Twitter, largely through individual low-follower accounts cutting and pasting the original text to share with their friends

This will surprise some of my friends, but, I'm still a bit undecided about my vote direction this coming Thursday.

I've obviously taken into consideration what I consider to be the following swaying points on the two main parties.

On the one hand the Conservative Boris Johnson is a bit of a rascal with the ladies and can sometimes bend the truth a bit, he’s also a bit posh.
Pinches phones, and is responsible for pushbikes being left all over cities.

And on the other hand..

Labours Jeremy Corbyn Invited two IRA members to parliament two weeks after the Brighton bombing.
Attended Bloody Sunday commemoration with bomber Brendan McKenna.
Attended meeting with Provisional IRA member Raymond McCartney.
Hosted IRA linked Mitchell McLaughlin in parliament.
Spoke alongside IRA terrorist Martina Anderson.
Attended Sinn Fein dinner with IRA bomber Gerry Kelly.
Chaired Irish republican event with IRA bomber Brendan MacFarlane.
Attended Bobby Sands commemoration honouring IRA terrorists.
Stood in minute’s silence for IRA gunmen shot dead by the SAS.
Refused to condemn the IRA in Sky News interview.
Refused to condemn the IRA on Question Time.
Refused to condemn IRA violence in BBC radio interview.
Signed EDM after IRA Poppy massacre massacre blaming Britain for the deaths.
Arrested while protesting in support of Brighton bomber’s co-defendants.
Lobbied government to improve visiting conditions for IRA killers.
Attended Irish republican event calling for armed conflict against Britain.
Hired suspected IRA man Ronan Bennett as a parliamentary assistant.
Hired another aide closely linked to several convicted IRA terrorists.
Heavily involved with IRA sympathising newspaper London Labour Briefing.
Put up £20,000 bail money for IRA terror suspect Roisin McAliskey.
Didn’t support IRA ceasefire.
Said Hamas and Hezbollah are his “friends“.
Called for Hamas to be removed from terror banned list.
Called Hamas “serious and hard-working“.
Attended wreath-laying at grave of Munich massacre terrorist.
Attended conference with Hamas and PFLP.
Photographed smiling with Hezbollah flag.
Attended rally with Hezbollah and Al-Muhajiroun.
Repeatedly shared platforms with PFLP plane hijacker.
Hired aide who praised Hamas’ “spirit of resistance“.
Accepted £20,000 for state TV channel of terror-sponsoring Iranian regime.
Opposed banning Britons from travelling to Syria to fight for ISIS.
Defended rights of fighters returning from Syria.
Said ISIS supporters should not be prosecuted.
Compared fighters returning from Syria to Nelson Mandela.
Said the death of Osama Bin Laden was a “tragedy“.
Wouldn’t sanction drone strike to kill ISIS leader.
Voted to allow ISIS fighters to return from Syria.
Opposed shoot to kill.
Attended event organised by terrorist sympathising IHRC.
Signed letter defending Lockerbie bombing suspects.
Wrote letter in support of conman accused of fundraising for ISIS.
Spoke of “friendship” with Mo Kozbar, who called for destruction of Israel.
Attended event with Abdullah Djaballah, who called for holy war against UK.
Called drone strikes against terrorists “obscene”.
Boasted about “opposing anti-terror legislation”.
Said laws banning jihadis from returning to Britain are “strange”.
Accepted £5,000 donation from terror supporter Ted Honderich.
Accepted £2,800 trip to Gaza from banned Islamist organisation Interpal.
Called Ibrahim Hewitt, extremist and chair of Interpal, a “very good friend”.
Accepted two more trips from the pro-Hamas group PRC.
Speaker at conference hosted by pro-Hamas group MEMO.
Met Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh several times.
Hosted meeting with Mousa Abu Maria of banned group Islamic Jihad.
Patron of Palestine Solidarity Campaign – marches attended by Hezbollah.
Compared Israel to ISIS, Hamas, Hezbollah and al-Qaeda.
Said we should not make “value judgements” about Britons who fight for ISIS.
Received endorsement from Hamas.
Attended event with Islamic extremist Suliman Gani.
Chaired Stop the War, who praised “internationalism and solidarity” of ISIS.
Praised Raed Salah, who was jailed for inciting violence in Israel.
Signed letter defending jihadist advocacy group Cage.
Met Dyab Jahjah, who praised the killing of British soldiers.
Shared platform with representative of extremist cleric Muqtada al-Sadr.
Compared ISIS to US military in interview on Russia Today.
Opposed proscription of Hizb ut-Tahrir.
Attended conference which called on Iraqis to kill British soldiers.
Attended Al-Quds Day demonstration in support of destruction of Israel.
Supported Hamas and ISIS-linked Viva Palestina group.
Attended protest with Islamic extremist Moazzam Begg.
Made the “case for Iran” at event hosted by Khomeinist group.
Photographed smiling with Azzam Tamimi, who backed suicide bombings.
Photographed with Abdel Atwan, who sympathised with attacks on US troops.
Said Hamas should “have tea with the Queen”.
Attended ‘Meet the Resistance’ event with Hezbollah MP Hussein El Haj.
Attended event with Haifa Zangana, who praised Palestinian “mujahideen”.
Defended the infamous anti-Semitic Hamas supporter Stephen Sizer.
Attended event with pro-Hamas and Hezbollah group Naturei Karta.
Backed Holocaust denying anti-Zionist extremist Paul Eisen.
Photographed with Abdul Raoof Al Shayeb, later jailed for terror offences.
Mocked “anti-terror hysteria” while opposing powers for security services.
Named on speakers list for conference with Hamas sympathiser Ismail Patel.
Criticised drone strike that killed Jihadi John.
Said the 7/7 bombers had been denied “hope and opportunity”.
Said 9/11 was “manipulated” to make it look like bin Laden was responsible.
Failed to unequivocally condemn the 9/11 attacks.
Called Columbian terror group M-19 “comrades”.
Blamed beheading of Alan Henning on Britain.
Gave speech in support of Gaddafi regime.
Signed EDM spinning for Slobodan Milosevic.
Blamed Tunisia terror attack on “austerity”.
Voted against banning support for the IRA.
Voted against the Prevention of Terrorism Act three times during the Troubles.
Voted against emergency counter-terror laws after 9/11.
Voted against stricter punishments for being a member of a terror group.
Voted against criminalising the encouragement of terrorism.
Voted against banning al-Qaeda.
Voted against outlawing the glorification of terror.
Voted against control orders.
Voted against increased funding for the security services to combat terrorism.
AND he’s don’t like Marmite

So it’s a tricky one really

Will that be splashed on the front page of the red rags before Thursday?

It is mind boggling how anyone could possibly not vote for the Tories.

But people will....

Madness.

I thought Sir Alan Sugars comments were interesting.
"Jeremy Corbyn has turned Labour into a negative anti business party that is clueless on how the economy works. His spending splurge is complete madness. "
That, from a life long Labour supporter , a labour peer, an arch remainer and although a leading Jew, it contained no reference to any anti Semitism concerns. So concerned of Labour's threat to the economy, he's urging voters to vote for Boris Johnson. As usual its not reported by the BBC, it doesn't fit the narrative.
The country wakes up on Friday morning with Corbyn as PM then so be it. The Youth will get the European country they want and in short time they'll get the youth unemployment to match.

You've lost all credibility when your argument is to blame young people if Labour win.

It’s perfectly valid to blame the gullible youth if they blindly vote for a party who have malice aforethought for the economic base of the country, when they have no inkling of how devastating it was in the 1970’s under the control of the Unions.

The dangers of tactical voting also mustn’t be underestimated. In a lot of seats a vote for the Lib Dem’s or Brexit or any independent candidate will be as good as a vote for Corbyn.

Ok then, boomers are responsible for the global 2008 financial crisis and all the mess that came afterwards.
See i can generalise an entire generation too.
like i said all your credibility has gone out the window so whatever you say now can't be taken seriously.

I'm not blaming the youth, they've been brain washed into thinking that all for for free and comes with no consequences. It wont matter much to me whether we have a labour government or not, I wont be picking up the bill. That's for my kids and your kids, my employees and their kids. Employment prospects for those coming out of school / university will get very bad very quickly. If Alan Sugar is deserting Labour because of the catastrophic financial implications doesn't that deserve consideration. The BBC clearly think not.

Only a matter of time till this blatantly bias organisation loses public funding. Johnson was saying he wants to change evading the licence fee from a criminal to a civil offence.

Andrew Neil, Nick Robinson, Andrew Marr, Laura Kuenssberg are all Tory supporters. Robinson was chairman of Cheshire, Neil edit of Spectator. When you really think about it the BBC simply can’t win. Know to be left sympathizers in general but with right wing presenters!

Christ you are a belter aren’t you, where do you get this made up shite from. Robinson is not a Tory and is vehemently anti Brexit. Andrew Marr is well Leftwing and sold the Trotskyist newspaper when he was in Uni. Kuennsberg doesn’t come across as pro Tory and while Neil is he doesn’t let his politics get in the way of grilling the lying bastards irrespective of what party they come from.
while your here ,have a good read of Popeyes post and then try and defend Plaids immigration policy.

This

Nick Robinson was founder member of Macclesfield Young Conservatives and rose through the rank, becoming Cheshire YC Chairman
At university he was President of the Oxford University Conservative Association

Neil has been editor of the Sunday Times and Daily Mail and is Editor of The Spectator all right wing publications.

As for Marr,
At an October 2006, BBC seminar discussing impartiality, Marr highlighted alleged bias within the BBC. He stated: "The BBC is not impartial or neutral. It's a publicly funded, urban organisation with an abnormally large number of young people, ethnic minorities, and gay people. It has a liberal bias, not so much a party-political bias. It is better expressed as a cultural liberal bias

Kuenssberg
In January 2017 the BBC Trust ruled that a report in November 2015 by Kuenssberg broke the broadcaster's impartiality and accuracy guidelines. A viewer had complained about her item, which featured an interview with Jeremy Corbyn on the BBC News at Six which was edited to give the incorrect impression that Corbyn disagreed with the use of firearms by police in incidents such as that month's terrorist attacks in Paris.

Just to balance up some of the Tory fake news and bull#%*t https://sputniknews.com/columnists/2019 ... vote-tory/

not sure it balances things up.

but SPUTNIKNEWS certainly explains where the drivel emanates from .

It’s called irony !! It’s OK for people to on here to believe and post Tory fake news and articles from the Tory press but not OK to post something that is clearly a left wing propaganda site even by my admission !!

Tory voters seem to believe anything pro-Tory but anything pro-Labour has to be lies !!

You couldn’t make it up !!

I didn't even look. SPUTNIK ffs ..I didn't because I have sense enough to realise its nonsense.. you clearly did read it though which proves my point.
btw...Tory voters ? ...as opposed to labour voters...its not a football match mate...voters should be just voters who can choose either side . im voting tory but not a tory voter , if Corbyn was the tory leader but with the same ideology and promises he has now I would be voting for someone else... how novel is that idea ? I might and might not vote tory next time. this Labour are offering promises that either they will fall very short on delivering or will deliver but leave my childrens generation to pay the bill... selfishness and the weekend millionaire mentality just arnt my thing..thank god there seem to be enough who actually care about their childrens futures to not act like kids in a sweetshop.