Mcburnie is off

You clearly know very little about football if you only consider the modern game given how big football was back in the day don’t get blinded by just thinking about money as the be all and end all.

So you accept you are and always have been a much smaller football club than us then cheers for clearing that up. Your about par with Bristol city similar number of seasons in top flight (though again unlike you they actually were runners up one year). We have almost double the amount of seasons as you in the top flight and are closer to the likes QPR or Palarse.

As for your greatest modern decade I would argue our ace to in Europe during this he late 60 and early 70’s far outweigh your achievements during your “golden spell” of 7 years in the prem.

Crochet was big in the early part of last century too, I’m just saying it has very little relevance to today.

If you think winning something at the top level today is the same as winning something in the 20’s then all power to you I suppose

You can argue whatever you like about the 70’s but we both know you wouldn’t have a leg to stand on. But you could try I suppose...

As I said handy thing to have if you are going on a pre-season tour of the Himalayas

It has nothing to do with playing at altitude, it just creates the environment that represents the oxygen levels at altitude, it means and ground level the body trains far harder meaning fitness increases - be that for a match up Mount Etna or Old Trafford.

Obviously worth the investment finishing 10th in the Championship

It certainly was worth it and still is. We just had the most successful decade in Welsh club history, certainly since colour TV was invented, our facilities absolutely played their part be that from a player acquisition standpoint to basically doing the job it was intended to do and making the squad as fit as possible.

I see the freak show roathie is now in full flow, how's Australia these days you must now be up posting all night.

Bored out of his tiny mind. Amazingly 70% of folk who leave for Oz return within 10 years, I guess the novelty of beaches soon becomes boring in the cultural void it is. I know, I’ve spent a few years there....

Bored out of his tiny mind. Amazingly 70% of folk who leave for Oz return within 10 years, I guess the novelty of beaches soon becomes boring in the cultural void it is. I know, I’ve spent a few years there....

Are you ok? You are making some very odd contributions to this thread.

Comparing women knitting to winning the FA Cup..

Swansea at its finest..

Comparing women knitting to winning the FA Cup..

Swansea at its finest..

I didn’t compare them. I mentioned that what was popular before doesn’t really mean it’s relevant today.

Bury won the FA Cup twice back before the war too, as did Clapham Rovers and Old Etonians.

Would Bury swap their 2 FA Cups in Victorian times for 2 modern day professional FA Cup wins? You bet they would. There is a reason for that.

Comparing women knitting to winning the FA Cup..

Swansea at its finest..

I didn’t compare them. I mentioned that what was popular before doesn’t really mean it’s relevant today.

Bury won the FA Cup twice back before the war too, as did Clapham Rovers and Old Etonians.

Would Bury swap their 2 FA Cups in Victorian times for 2 modern day professional FA Cup wins? You bet they would. There is a reason for that.

Would you swap your history for Cardiffs history? You bet you would. Always have been a smaller less successful club than us the facts don’t lie.

As I said handy thing to have if you are going on a pre-season tour of the Himalayas

It has nothing to do with playing at altitude, it just creates the environment that represents the oxygen levels at altitude, it means and ground level the body trains far harder meaning fitness increases - be that for a match up Mount Etna or Old Trafford.

Obviously worth the investment finishing 10th in the Championship

It certainly was worth it and still is. We just had the most successful decade in Welsh club history, certainly since colour TV was invented, our facilities absolutely played their part be that from a player acquisition standpoint to basically doing the job it was intended to do and making the squad as fit as possible.

I see the freak show roathie is now in full flow, how's Australia these days you must now be up posting all night.

Bored out of his tiny mind. Amazingly 70% of folk who leave for Oz return within 10 years, I guess the novelty of beaches soon becomes boring in the cultural void it is. I know, I’ve spent a few years there....

Goats, as you well know, the freak show has only ever seen Australia on tv with his carer/mother. Rember the clasic comment "we are now playing on a different level to you"

Goats, as you well know, the freak show has only ever seen Australia on tv with his carer/mother. Rember the clasic comment "we are now playing on a different level to you"

Another with some very strange responses here. I hope you are ok.

Would you swap your history for Cardiffs history? You bet you would. Always have been a smaller less successful club than us the facts don’t lie.

That’s an easy answer, not a chance. It isn’t even a contest.

Would you swap your history for Cardiffs history? You bet you would. Always have been a smaller less successful club than us the facts don’t lie.

That’s an easy answer, not a chance. It isn’t even a contest.

I know we have achieved so much more than you that it’s actually funny how some of your fans think your comparable to us

I know we have achieved so much more than you that it’s actually funny how some of your fans think your comparable to us

Isn’t it just a lot of Welsh Cups and a trophy almost 100 years ago?

Come on now, being biased is all well and good but I do think some on here need to get real. Ask Man City if they would swap their Premier League title in 2017 for winning the old first division in 1920. Let me know what they say

I know we have achieved so much more than you that it’s actually funny how some of your fans think your comparable to us

Isn’t it just a lot of Welsh Cups and a trophy almost 100 years ago?

Come on now, being biased is all well and good but I do think some on here need to get real. Ask Man City if they would swap their Premier League title in 2017 for winning the old first division in 1920. Let me know what they say

It not just that though is it. As you know we have outperformed you more top flight seasons 1 less than double in fact), higher finish in top flight your highest ever finish was 6th or 8th in your so called “best decade of welsh club football”, actually doing well and beating big clubs in Europe instead of losing first or second round every time or last 32 in the Europa league without beating anyone of note.

Just like all people from Swansea you can’t admit how jealous you are of Cardiff because of a inferiority complex. Keep try to convince yourself the facts are their for all to see

Small fry just like Bristol City.

It not just that though is it. As you know we have outperformed you more top flight seasons 1 less than double in fact), higher finish in top flight your highest ever finish was 6th or 8th in your so called “best decade of welsh club football”, actually doing well and beating big clubs in Europe instead of losing first or second round every time or last 32 in the Europa league without beating anyone of note.

Just like all people from Swansea you can’t admit how jealous you are of Cardiff because of a inferiority complex. Keep try to convince yourself the facts are their for all to see

Small fry just like Bristol City.

So again, ask any Swans fan if they would swap 7 years of PL football for 13 years of Division 1 football 60 years ago and see what they say.

That’s the problem, you are equating them to the same value and they just aren’t in the same realm.

Look at the interest our time has generated globally. Do you really think people across the world are taking note of Cardiff because they won some Welsh Cups and won the FA Cup almost 100 years ago? Be honest with yourself.

Swansea global twitter followers:- 1 million
Cardiff global twitter followers:- 321k

Swansea global Facebook followers:- 1.35 million
Cardiff global Facebook followers:- 526k

I know we have achieved so much more than you that it’s actually funny how some of your fans think your comparable to us

Isn’t it just a lot of Welsh Cups and a trophy almost 100 years ago?

Come on now, being biased is all well and good but I do think some on here need to get real. Ask Man City if they would swap their Premier League title in 2017 for winning the old first division in 1920. Let me know what they say

A trophy that many clubs only dream of winning
or even get to a final (3) : plus a European record you can also only dream of!
As for man c back in 1920 it was a big thing for them why compare? Your trouble is same as all your friends down west that both clubs history only started 8 yrs ago when you entered premier league anything before then didn't exist as far as your concerned because it makes you feel better

I know we have achieved so much more than you that it’s actually funny how some of your fans think your comparable to us

Isn’t it just a lot of Welsh Cups and a trophy almost 100 years ago?

Come on now, being biased is all well and good but I do think some on here need to get real. Ask Man City if they would swap their Premier League title in 2017 for winning the old first division in 1920. Let me know what they say

A trophy that many clubs only dream of winning even yours!
As for man c back in 1920 it was a big thing for them why compare? Your trouble is same as all your friends down west that both clubs history only started 8 yrs ago when you entered premier league anything before then didn't exist as far as your concerned because it makes you feel better

History is forever, I’m not saying otherwise. What I’m saying is there is clearly more value between modern day success and success in the 1920’s, the game is unrecognisable and nobody in their right mind would swap modern day success for success 100 years ago. They just wouldn’t.

So by all means say you won x,y and z... but to use it as a reason as to why those are more valuable than modern day success is the issue and the issue that clearly all of the football world would recognise as such.

It not just that though is it. As you know we have outperformed you more top flight seasons 1 less than double in fact), higher finish in top flight your highest ever finish was 6th or 8th in your so called “best decade of welsh club football”, actually doing well and beating big clubs in Europe instead of losing first or second round every time or last 32 in the Europa league without beating anyone of note.

Just like all people from Swansea you can’t admit how jealous you are of Cardiff because of a inferiority complex. Keep try to convince yourself the facts are their for all to see

Small fry just like Bristol City.

So again, ask any Swans fan if they would swap 7 years of PL football for 13 years of Division 1 football 60 years ago and see what they say.

That’s the problem, you are equating them to the same value and they just aren’t in the same realm.

Look at the interest our time has generated globally. Do you really think people across the world are taking note of Cardiff because they won some Welsh Cups and won the FA Cup almost 100 years ago? Be honest with yourself.

Swansea global twitter followers:- 1 million
Cardiff global twitter followers:- 321k

Swansea global Facebook followers:- 1.35 million
Cardiff global Facebook followers:- 526k

Social media

You clearly have no concept of actual football if you think social media means anything. Your probably one of these people who thinks football only started with the PL.

It not just that though is it. As you know we have outperformed you more top flight seasons 1 less than double in fact), higher finish in top flight your highest ever finish was 6th or 8th in your so called “best decade of welsh club football”, actually doing well and beating big clubs in Europe instead of losing first or second round every time or last 32 in the Europa league without beating anyone of note.

Just like all people from Swansea you can’t admit how jealous you are of Cardiff because of a inferiority complex. Keep try to convince yourself the facts are their for all to see

Small fry just like Bristol City.

So again, ask any Swans fan if they would swap 7 years of PL football for 13 years of Division 1 football 60 years ago and see what they say.

That’s the problem, you are equating them to the same value and they just aren’t in the same realm.

Look at the interest our time has generated globally. Do you really think people across the world are taking note of Cardiff because they won some Welsh Cups and won the FA Cup almost 100 years ago? Be honest with yourself.

Swansea global twitter followers:- 1 million
Cardiff global twitter followers:- 321k

Swansea global Facebook followers:- 1.35 million
Cardiff global Facebook followers:- 526k

You love comparing things when it means you are ahead anything else doesnt count? May not take note of football club but cannot argue as a city its renowned world over for staging biggest events in sport !

I wouldn't boast about Twitter or Facebook followers as sure if looked you'd find a monkey or the like have more followers than you?

It not just that though is it. As you know we have outperformed you more top flight seasons 1 less than double in fact), higher finish in top flight your highest ever finish was 6th or 8th in your so called “best decade of welsh club football”, actually doing well and beating big clubs in Europe instead of losing first or second round every time or last 32 in the Europa league without beating anyone of note.

Just like all people from Swansea you can’t admit how jealous you are of Cardiff because of a inferiority complex. Keep try to convince yourself the facts are their for all to see

Small fry just like Bristol City.

So again, ask any Swans fan if they would swap 7 years of PL football for 13 years of Division 1 football 60 years ago and see what they say.

That’s the problem, you are equating them to the same value and they just aren’t in the same realm.

Look at the interest our time has generated globally. Do you really think people across the world are taking note of Cardiff because they won some Welsh Cups and won the FA Cup almost 100 years ago? Be honest with yourself.

Swansea global twitter followers:- 1 million
Cardiff global twitter followers:- 321k

Swansea global Facebook followers:- 1.35 million
Cardiff global Facebook followers:- 526k

You love comparing things when it means you are ahead anything else doesnt count? May not take note of football club but cannot argue as a city its renowned world over for staging biggest events in sport !

I wouldn't boast about Twitter or Facebook followers as sure if looked you'd find a monkey or the like have more followers than you?

He also doesn’t know his own clubs history if he thinks they have only had 7 seasons top flight instead of 9.

Guy knows the facts prove they are small fry so clutches at straws at things that have nothing to do with success on a football pitch.

It not just that though is it. As you know we have outperformed you more top flight seasons 1 less than double in fact), higher finish in top flight your highest ever finish was 6th or 8th in your so called “best decade of welsh club football”, actually doing well and beating big clubs in Europe instead of losing first or second round every time or last 32 in the Europa league without beating anyone of note.

Just like all people from Swansea you can’t admit how jealous you are of Cardiff because of a inferiority complex. Keep try to convince yourself the facts are their for all to see

Small fry just like Bristol City.

So again, ask any Swans fan if they would swap 7 years of PL football for 13 years of Division 1 football 60 years ago and see what they say.

That’s the problem, you are equating them to the same value and they just aren’t in the same realm.

Look at the interest our time has generated globally. Do you really think people across the world are taking note of Cardiff because they won some Welsh Cups and won the FA Cup almost 100 years ago? Be honest with yourself.

Swansea global twitter followers:- 1 million
Cardiff global twitter followers:- 321k

Swansea global Facebook followers:- 1.35 million
Cardiff global Facebook followers:- 526k

Social media

You clearly have no concept of actual football if you think social media means anything. Your probably one of these people who thinks football only started with the PL.

Social media is a global platform where you can gauge global interest. That much is obvious.

He also doesn’t know his own clubs history if he thinks they have only had 7 seasons top flight instead of 9.

Guy knows the facts prove they are small fry so clutches at straws at things that have nothing to do with success on a football pitch.

Read it again.

I said swap 7 years of PL football, which of course is correct and the point I was making regarding modern achievements. Keep up Phil.

Come on now, don’t make it too easy.

You love comparing things when it means you are ahead anything else doesnt count? May not take note of football club but cannot argue as a city its renowned world over for staging biggest events in sport !

I wouldn't boast about Twitter or Facebook followers as sure if looked you'd find a monkey or the like have more followers than you?

Completely agree, Cardiff as a City is much more renowned than Swansea. I’m not sure what that proves though, we aren’t talking about cities we are talking about football clubs.

I can’t see Barnet fans claiming they are more successful than Liverpool because more people know London than Liverpool as cities.

Lads, come on now.

As I said handy thing to have if you are going on a pre-season tour of the Himalayas

It has nothing to do with playing at altitude, it just creates the environment that represents the oxygen levels at altitude, it means and ground level the body trains far harder meaning fitness increases - be that for a match up Mount Etna or Old Trafford.

Obviously worth the investment finishing 10th in the Championship

It certainly was worth it and still is. We just had the most successful decade in Welsh club history, certainly since colour TV was invented, our facilities absolutely played their part be that from a player acquisition standpoint to basically doing the job it was intended to do and making the squad as fit as possible.

I see the freak show roathie is now in full flow, how's Australia these days you must now be up posting all night.

Bored out of his tiny mind. Amazingly 70% of folk who leave for Oz return within 10 years, I guess the novelty of beaches soon becomes boring in the cultural void it is. I know, I’ve spent a few years there....

Goats, as you well know, the freak show has only ever seen Australia on tv with his carer/mother. Rember the clasic comment "we are now playing on a different level to you"

I remember that and him being busted for over 80 different usernames. Trolling at its finest. Don’t know why Swansea town think they even have a football history? They’ve spent less time at the top table than us despite the 7 seasons we never hear the end of, most of which their own fans hated as they battled relegation every year. Take away the other blip in 1980 and what’s left? 60 seasons in league 1? Truly amazing and a record crowd of less than we had last season.....

It not just that though is it. As you know we have outperformed you more top flight seasons 1 less than double in fact), higher finish in top flight your highest ever finish was 6th or 8th in your so called “best decade of welsh club football”, actually doing well and beating big clubs in Europe instead of losing first or second round every time or last 32 in the Europa league without beating anyone of note.

Just like all people from Swansea you can’t admit how jealous you are of Cardiff because of a inferiority complex. Keep try to convince yourself the facts are their for all to see

Small fry just like Bristol City.

So again, ask any Swans fan if they would swap 7 years of PL football for 13 years of Division 1 football 60 years ago and see what they say.

That’s the problem, you are equating them to the same value and they just aren’t in the same realm.

Look at the interest our time has generated globally. Do you really think people across the world are taking note of Cardiff because they won some Welsh Cups and won the FA Cup almost 100 years ago? Be honest with yourself.

Swansea global twitter followers:- 1 million
Cardiff global twitter followers:- 321k

Swansea global Facebook followers:- 1.35 million
Cardiff global Facebook followers:- 526k

Social media

You clearly have no concept of actual football if you think social media means anything. Your probably one of these people who thinks football only started with the PL.

Social media is a global platform where you can gauge global interest. That much is obvious.

As if you still have a million twitter followers, you only had people around the world checking who you even were because they saw you beat Arsenal or something in the PL a few years ago, it doesn’t mean they still follow you does it? Shame it doesn’t tell you if they actually follow you still as no doubt none will as you have always had a tiny fan base. Did you even sell 10,000 ST’s?

I remember that and him being busted for over 80 different usernames. Trolling at its finest. Don’t know why Swansea town think they even have a football history? They’ve spent less time at the top table than us despite the 7 seasons we never hear the end of, most of which their own fans hated as they battled relegation every year. Take away the other blip in 1980 and what’s left? 60 seasons in league 1? Truly amazing and a record crowd of less than we had last season.....

Who, me? Rubbish. Talking sense about football isn’t trolling, I would tentatively guess that the issue that you clearly have is that I say things that you don’t particularly want to hear, read or face up to. I can live with that.

I don’t mind bias from you guys, it makes me laugh but what you are saying in every post is just silly. Battling relegation most years and we hated it?

11th
9th
12th
8th
12th
15th
18th

Behave ffs

As if you still have a million twitter followers, you only had people around the world checking who you even were because they saw you beat Arsenal or something in the PL a few years ago, it doesn’t mean they still follow you does it? Shame it doesn’t tell you if they actually follow you still as no doubt none will as you have always had a tiny fan base. Did you even sell 10,000 ST’s?

We past the million mark last week and growing.

Of course people started following us when they saw us beating Arsenal, Man City, Man United, Chelsea, Tottenham, Liverpool, many of them multiple times, Valencia 3-0 away, beating European Champions over 2 legs after beating 5 times champions league winners on the way to win a major trophy etc etc that’s how you grow your global exposure, grow a global fan base and become a bigger club.

This is why modern achievements are far more important that achieving things when nobody who follows football was alive to see it. You aren’t going to get people wanting to attach themselves to your club because you won a cup in the 1920’s. But we both know that.

Mcburnie is gone.

FTJ

Mods please lock this thread.

The guy is bonkers.

Mcburnie is gone.

FTJ

Mods please lock this thread.

The guy is bonkers.

Totally agree with you, notice roathie never answered the question about season ticket sales

Mcburnie is gone.

FTJ

Mods please lock this thread.

The guy is bonkers.

Yes, you are right. We would all give up everything for a trophy back when the Titanic was still fresh in the mind, how bonkers of me to think otherwise

Sorry chaps you are going to have to get used to me talking sense, whether the truth is uncomfortable to deal with or not.

This guy is going good to be fun to watch as the season continues

Winning a trophy in 1927 , the FA Cup , Charity Shield and Welsh Cup in the same season, is as relevant now as it was then. Because in 1927 it was the here and now. Getting to a major European Semi Final in 1968 was relevant too. Yes, it's been lost in the mists of time but so will 7 seasons in the PL in 10, 20 years time. The problem is for Swansea is it's all over, never to come back, that was the best time in their 100 year+ history and it's gone forever.

They were gloating 5 years ago when we had Tan and all the hassle we had, while they were the perfect club with fans on the board. It's changed a bit now though hasn't it.

Were the 1960s were irrelevant too when we had 2 seasons in Division 1 and the rest in Division 2, while Swansea had about 5 years in Division Two and the rest in 3 & 4? That would be irrelevant to a Swansea fan. We all keep quiet when the other team are doing better than our own, except this chap. But they'll still play the 'Swansea Way' whatever that is, as if they invented a style of football. I suppose the Swansea way is staying in the bottom half of the table for most of the time....but not to worry it's the "Swansea Way'. They've got barely a team now to put out. I'd be more worried about the owners and the finances even after the sales of Mc Burnie and James which have basically save the club.

I remember int he 70s in a Rothmans Annual they did a list of clubs status based on their whole performance in the League, Cardiff were well down the list but still the top Welsh Club, and still would be if they did it again. It was based on seasons at each level of the League. I can't see how anyone can debate the issue, Cardiff overall have been better than Swansea, with Newport and Wrexham trailing way down, but above Aberdare and Merthyr. They have been better than us for the last 8 years , bar last season but were were better than them for the previous 10 years. But overall we all know who is best...