" NEIL WARNOCK SHOULD OF BEEN BACKED "

Net spend table

1) Villa -£28.99m
2) Wolves -£22.87
3) Wednesday -£9.26m
4) Birmingham -£7.61m
5) Brighton -£7.44m
6) Reading -£2.58m
7) Huddersfield -£2.55m
8) Fulham -£1.5m
9) Derby -£1.16m
10) Rotherham -£914k
11) Leeds -£850k
12) Burton -£304k
13) Preston +£1.22
14) Bristol C +£1.38m
15) Ipswich +£1.56
16) Cardiff +£1.79m
17) Barnsley +£3.34m
18) QPR +£4.77m
19) Wigan +£5.28
20) Brentford +£8.69
21) Norwich +£8.71m
22) Blackburn +£11.26m
23) Forest +£11.85m
24) Newcastle +£30.98m

Almost an identical result for Cardiff. I can do a squad value one too, and they still wouldnt be anywhere near top 7.

Pembroke. But this is where it get interesting though, ain't it? Is it sustainable?

One suspects not! Well not for more than a couple of seasons regardless of fact some clubs having big crowds as lots of clubs already multi millions in debt?

Another telling table. This is squad values. Cardiff find themselves bang in mid table which added with soending budgets suggests a mid table finish is the fair expectation.


1) Newcastle United £111.86m
2) Aston Villa £63.96m
3) Norwich City £58.74m
4) Derby County £53.72m
5) Sheffield Wednesday £53.38m
6) Fulham FC £41.86m
7) Nottingham Forest £40.93m
8) Wolverhampton Wanderers £39.06m
9) Brighton & Hove Albion £38.63m
10) Reading FC £32.85m
11) Leeds United £29.88m
12) Cardiff City £29.45m
13) Queens Park Rangers £24.44m
14) Birmingham City £21.51m
15) Brentford FC £20.02m
16) Ipswich Town £19.36m
17) Blackburn Rovers £18.36m
18) Bristol City £17.81m
19) Huddersfield Town £16.62m
20) Wigan Athletic £16.17m
21) Preston North End £14.75m
22) Burton Albion £11.01m
23) Rotherham United £10.39m
24) Barnsley £7.44m

Pembroke. But this is where it get interesting though, ain't it? Is it sustainable?

One suspects not! Well not for more than a couple of seasons regardless of fact some clubs having big crowds as lots of clubs already multi millions in debt?

When you look at the table, some of theese are going to struggle. inflation inflation inflation..

Pembroke. But this is where it get interesting though, ain't it? Is it sustainable?

One suspects not! Well not for more than a couple of seasons regardless of fact some clubs having big crowds as lots of clubs already multi millions in debt?

When you look at the table, some of theese are going to struggle. inflation inflation inflation..

Well as they say there's statistics and lies and the table doesn't account for previous seasons spending! As we've found out no income spells trouble, and can only sell so much family silver before it runs out! then where does the money come from?

Pembroke. But this is where it get interesting though, ain't it? Is it sustainable?

One suspects not! Well not for more than a couple of seasons regardless of fact some clubs having big crowds as lots of clubs already multi millions in debt?

When you look at the table, some of theese are going to struggle. inflation inflation inflation..

Well as they say there's statistics and lies and the table doesn't account for previous seasons spending! As we've found out no income spells trouble, and can only sell so much family silver before it runs out! then where does the money come from?

I can do a table for last seasons spending too if you like? Although the squad value table shows what each team has to work with in terms of squad quality.

Pembroke. But this is where it get interesting though, ain't it? Is it sustainable?

One suspects not! Well not for more than a couple of seasons regardless of fact some clubs having big crowds as lots of clubs already multi millions in debt?

When you look at the table, some of theese are going to struggle. inflation inflation inflation..

Well as they say there's statistics and lies and the table doesn't account for previous seasons spending! As we've found out no income spells trouble, and can only sell so much family silver before it runs out! then where does the money come from?

This has all stemmed from Wez saying given wages we should be challenging for play offs.

No statistics have been put up yet what the wage bill for the division is.

Just another derailment by mr. Cuckoo

Pembroke. But this is where it get interesting though, ain't it? Is it sustainable?

One suspects not! Well not for more than a couple of seasons regardless of fact some clubs having big crowds as lots of clubs already multi millions in debt?

When you look at the table, some of theese are going to struggle. inflation inflation inflation..

Well as they say there's statistics and lies and the table doesn't account for previous seasons spending! As we've found out no income spells trouble, and can only sell so much family silver before it runs out! then where does the money come from?

I can do a table for last seasons spending too if you like? Although the squad value table shows what each team has to work with in terms of squad quality.

No thanks! The debt clubs are in is more interesting but there again not that bothered as it doesn't concern ccfc.

This has all stemmed from Wez saying given wages we should be challenging for play offs.

No statistics have been put up yet what the wage bill for the division is.

Just another derailment by mr. Cuckoo

He said "budgets" Mr Obsessed, on a thread about Warnocks spending ability. I know you don't like it when I am clearly coming out on the sense side of things (as usual), but changing arguments probably isn't the best tactic. Cardiffs wage bill is around £20m which is only slightly more than Swansea when they were in that division 6 years ago who were notoriously low in the wage bill.

If you think Cardiff who have the 12th highest squad value, 17th highest spending this season and 16th highest net spend have one of the highest wage bill then you are three times as mad as you tell other people they are when they beat you in a debate

Pembroke. But this is where it get interesting though, ain't it? Is it sustainable?

One suspects not! Well not for more than a couple of seasons regardless of fact some clubs having big crowds as lots of clubs already multi millions in debt?

When you look at the table, some of theese are going to struggle. inflation inflation inflation..

Well as they say there's statistics and lies and the table doesn't account for previous seasons spending! As we've found out no income spells trouble, and can only sell so much family silver before it runs out! then where does the money come from?

Well, a few of them got the parachute. But they have a long way to go on the table. Some will no doubt struggle and end up as Cardiff, the bargain bin..

This has all stemmed from Wez saying given wages we should be challenging for play offs.

No statistics have been put up yet what the wage bill for the division is.

Just another derailment by mr. Cuckoo

He said "budgets" Mr Obsessed, on a thread about Warnocks spending ability. I know you don't like it when I am clearly coming out on the sense side of things (as usual), but changing arguments probably isn't the best tactic. Cardiffs wage bill is around £20m which is only slightly more than Swansea when they were in that division 6 years ago who were notoriously low in the wage bill.

If you think Cardiff who have the 12th highest squad value, 17th highest spending this season and 16th highest net spend have one of the highest wage bill then you are three times as mad as you tell other people they are when they beat you in a debate

He said wagebill it's on this thread.

You don't know what Cardiffs wagebill is for this season as accounts are not out and won't be for at least another year.

This has all stemmed from Wez saying given wages we should be challenging for play offs.

No statistics have been put up yet what the wage bill for the division is.

Just another derailment by mr. Cuckoo

He said "budgets" Mr Obsessed, on a thread about Warnocks spending ability. I know you don't like it when I am clearly coming out on the sense side of things (as usual), but changing arguments probably isn't the best tactic. Cardiffs wage bill is around £20m which is only slightly more than Swansea when they were in that division 6 years ago who were notoriously low in the wage bill.

If you think Cardiff who have the 12th highest squad value, 17th highest spending this season and 16th highest net spend have one of the highest wage bill then you are three times as mad as you tell other people they are when they beat you in a debate

He said wagebill it's on this thread.

You don't know what Cardiffs wagebill is for this season as accounts are not out and won't be for at least another year.

It was £19m max when Warnock took over. Well reported. Warnock has signed a few players but got rid of many also. Balancing the books ha been the clear way things have been with Warnock stating he will have to sell to bring some players in. The wage bill clearly is not much north of £20m which would also fall in line with squad value and transfers spent. Cardiff is run an a meagre budget in all areas. Thats just how it is. Not sure why you are so defensive, the club has been crying out for it for a long time and Slade probably played a much bigger role in where the club finds itself today than most will give credit for.

Another telling table. This is squad values. Cardiff find themselves bang in mid table which added with soending budgets suggests a mid table finish is the fair expectation.


1) Newcastle United £111.86m
2) Aston Villa £63.96m
3) Norwich City £58.74m
4) Derby County £53.72m
5) Sheffield Wednesday £53.38m
6) Fulham FC £41.86m
7) Nottingham Forest £40.93m
8) Wolverhampton Wanderers £39.06m
9) Brighton & Hove Albion £38.63m
10) Reading FC £32.85m
11) Leeds United £29.88m
12) Cardiff City £29.45m
13) Queens Park Rangers £24.44m
14) Birmingham City £21.51m
15) Brentford FC £20.02m
16) Ipswich Town £19.36m
17) Blackburn Rovers £18.36m
18) Bristol City £17.81m
19) Huddersfield Town £16.62m
20) Wigan Athletic £16.17m
21) Preston North End £14.75m
22) Burton Albion £11.01m
23) Rotherham United £10.39m
24) Barnsley £7.44m

gee thanks for all this research. must have been mega difficult ringing around clubs/players/.managers etc etc etc. or is this your normal got it from transfermarket or wiki, which are basically childsbrains guessing.

Another telling table. This is squad values. Cardiff find themselves bang in mid table which added with soending budgets suggests a mid table finish is the fair expectation.


1) Newcastle United £111.86m
2) Aston Villa £63.96m
3) Norwich City £58.74m
4) Derby County £53.72m
5) Sheffield Wednesday £53.38m
6) Fulham FC £41.86m
7) Nottingham Forest £40.93m
8) Wolverhampton Wanderers £39.06m
9) Brighton & Hove Albion £38.63m
10) Reading FC £32.85m
11) Leeds United £29.88m
12) Cardiff City £29.45m
13) Queens Park Rangers £24.44m
14) Birmingham City £21.51m
15) Brentford FC £20.02m
16) Ipswich Town £19.36m
17) Blackburn Rovers £18.36m
18) Bristol City £17.81m
19) Huddersfield Town £16.62m
20) Wigan Athletic £16.17m
21) Preston North End £14.75m
22) Burton Albion £11.01m
23) Rotherham United £10.39m
24) Barnsley £7.44m

gee thanks for all this research. must have been mega difficult ringing around clubs/players/.managers etc etc etc. or is this your normal got it from transfermarket or wiki, which are basically childsbrains guessing.

Which figures do you dispute then?

Another telling table. This is squad values. Cardiff find themselves bang in mid table which added with soending budgets suggests a mid table finish is the fair expectation.


1) Newcastle United £111.86m
2) Aston Villa £63.96m
3) Norwich City £58.74m
4) Derby County £53.72m
5) Sheffield Wednesday £53.38m
6) Fulham FC £41.86m
7) Nottingham Forest £40.93m
8) Wolverhampton Wanderers £39.06m
9) Brighton & Hove Albion £38.63m
10) Reading FC £32.85m
11) Leeds United £29.88m
12) Cardiff City £29.45m
13) Queens Park Rangers £24.44m
14) Birmingham City £21.51m
15) Brentford FC £20.02m
16) Ipswich Town £19.36m
17) Blackburn Rovers £18.36m
18) Bristol City £17.81m
19) Huddersfield Town £16.62m
20) Wigan Athletic £16.17m
21) Preston North End £14.75m
22) Burton Albion £11.01m
23) Rotherham United £10.39m
24) Barnsley £7.44m

gee thanks for all this research. must have been mega difficult ringing around clubs/players/.managers etc etc etc. or is this your normal got it from transfermarket or wiki, which are basically childsbrains guessing.

Which figures do you dispute then?

all the ones you cant prove,which id imagine is all of them
pretending you know earnings too. jesus
and YOU take the pee out of wez.?
beaut

all the ones you cant prove,which id imagine is all of them
pretending you know earnings too. jesus
and YOU take the pee out of wez.?
beaut

well I have heard of scraping the barrel but this must be an all time new? Thank you and congratualations on behalf of us all

all the ones you cant prove,which id imagine is all of them
pretending you know earnings too. jesus
and YOU take the pee out of wez.?
beaut

well I have heard of scraping the barrel but this must be an all time new? Thank you and congratualations on behalf of us all

go on prove, i will accept the ones that clubs CONFIRM.
you can start with Cardiff
no put downs.no laughing smilies
just prove your not full of shit

go on prove, i will accept the ones that clubs CONFIRM.
you can start with Cardiff
no put downs.no laughing smilies
just prove your not full of shit

I dont need to prove it, it is a fact. You can choose to not believe, but you would be wrong. Your choice

go on prove, i will accept the ones that clubs CONFIRM.
you can start with Cardiff
no put downs.no laughing smilies
just prove your not full of shit

I dont need to prove it, it is a fact. You can choose to not believe, but you would be wrong. Your choice

FULL OF SHIT. MADE UP FIGURES STOLEN FROM SOME OTHER HALFWIT

go on prove, i will accept the ones that clubs CONFIRM.
you can start with Cardiff
no put downs.no laughing smilies
just prove your not full of shit

I dont need to prove it, it is a fact. You can choose to not believe, but you would be wrong. Your choice

FULL OF SHIT. MADE UP FIGURES STOLEN FROM SOME OTHER HALFWIT

Yes of course they are doggy

Cardiff have actually spent £330m and should be top God damn it

go on prove, i will accept the ones that clubs CONFIRM.
you can start with Cardiff
no put downs.no laughing smilies
just prove your not full of shit

I dont need to prove it, it is a fact. You can choose to not believe, but you would be wrong. Your choice

FULL OF SHIT. MADE UP FIGURES STOLEN FROM SOME OTHER HALFWIT

Yes of course they are doggy

Cardiff have actually spent £330m and should be top God damn it

JUST PROVE YOUR FIGURES ON ONE CLUB.CARDIFF
ILL BUY YOU A WHOLE PACKET OF THOSE BISCUITS AND HAVE THEM DELIVERED

JUST PROVE YOUR FIGURES ON ONE CLUB.CARDIFF
ILL BUY YOU A WHOLE PACKET OF THOSE BISCUITS AND HAVE THEM DELIVERED

I don't have to prove any figures, they are facts. I will also tell you it is a fact that there is zero gravity in space too, there is no need to prove that either for the same reasons.

I don't eat buscuits, my body is my temple. But thanks for the offer.

JUST PROVE YOUR FIGURES ON ONE CLUB.CARDIFF
ILL BUY YOU A WHOLE PACKET OF THOSE BISCUITS AND HAVE THEM DELIVERED

I don't have to prove any figures, they are facts. I will also tell you it is a fact that there is zero gravity in space too, there is no need to prove that either for the same reasons.

I don't eat buscuits, my body is my temple. But thanks for the offer.

no i know. just churn out figures a child could conjour up without any proof or thought.

you dont prove things. your a fake.

JUST PROVE YOUR FIGURES ON ONE CLUB.CARDIFF
ILL BUY YOU A WHOLE PACKET OF THOSE BISCUITS AND HAVE THEM DELIVERED

I don't have to prove any figures, they are facts. I will also tell you it is a fact that there is zero gravity in space too, there is no need to prove that either for the same reasons.

I don't eat buscuits, my body is my temple. But thanks for the offer.

no i know. just churn out figures a child could conjour up without any proof or thought.

you dont prove things. your a fake.

Yes of course doggy, they are all wrong. Cardiff have secretly spent billions on players nobody has seen and Villa and Newcastle have signed nobody, just pretended to. Cardiff should be top

JUST PROVE YOUR FIGURES ON ONE CLUB.CARDIFF
ILL BUY YOU A WHOLE PACKET OF THOSE BISCUITS AND HAVE THEM DELIVERED

I don't have to prove any figures, they are facts. I will also tell you it is a fact that there is zero gravity in space too, there is no need to prove that either for the same reasons.

I don't eat buscuits, my body is my temple. But thanks for the offer.

no i know. just churn out figures a child could conjour up without any proof or thought.

you dont prove things. your a fake.

Yes of course doggy, they are all wrong. Cardiff have secretly spent billions on players nobody has seen and Villa and Newcastle have signed nobody, just pretended to. Cardiff should be top

no we havent. but im asking you to prove your not a full of manure fraud and again you decline
CAN YOU PROVE THOSE FIGURES YES OR NO

no we havent. but im asking you to prove your not a full of manure fraud and again you decline

Ah there we go then, I know that too. I don't have to prove anything doggy, it is all out in the public domain. As I said, you can be wrong and choose not to believe if you so wish, that is your choice, I cant make you see what is presented as fact.

no we havent. but im asking you to prove your not a full of manure fraud and again you decline

Ah there we go then, I know that too. I don't have to prove anything doggy, it is all out in the public domain. As I said, you can be wrong and choose not to believe if you so wish, that is your choice, I cant make you see what is presented as fact.

btw i havent argued about how much we spend. how high or low we are on your magic ladder.

all ive asked is where these figures come from. are they of the guess sites or from clubs/players/managers/owners.the FA.

YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT MY FRIEND.

btw i havent argued about how much we spend. how high or low we are on your magic ladder.

all ive asked is where these figures come from. are they of the guess sites or from clubs/players/managers/owners.the FA.

YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT MY FRIEND.

They are facts, simple as that. If you wish to prove the figures are different then be my guest friend, but again - you woukd be wrong... Which is your choice as we have established

btw i havent argued about how much we spend. how high or low we are on your magic ladder.

all ive asked is where these figures come from. are they of the guess sites or from clubs/players/managers/owners.the FA.

YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT MY FRIEND.

They are facts, simple as that. If you wish to prove the figures are different then be my guest friend, but again - you woukd be wrong... Which is your choice as we have established

They may be facts. I just hope you have'nt taken these from the transfermrkt website, as their player values are estimates.

btw i havent argued about how much we spend. how high or low we are on your magic ladder.

all ive asked is where these figures come from. are they of the guess sites or from clubs/players/managers/owners.the FA.

YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT MY FRIEND.

They are facts, simple as that. If you wish to prove the figures are different then be my guest friend, but again - you woukd be wrong... Which is your choice as we have established

They may be facts. I just hope you have'nt taken these from the transfermrkt website, as their player values are estimates.

Of course that particular table is estimates, all player values are estimates regardless of source.

I don't think anybody thinks that each player has a fixed transfer price tag and barcode like a shop, transfer fees are negotiated. But these are generally estimated from transfer fees paid, clubs media valuations etc. they are the same for every club, so while these specific figures may not be to the pound they will be there or there abouts enough for a fair comparison. But I am sure pedanticism will interest the obsessives and claim that indeed Cardiffs players are worth billions.

Nobody can really argue the positions with any real verve.

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