" UNITED KINGDOM VOTES TO LEAVE THE EUROPEAN UNION "

:o

That statement is probably the biggest lie of the brexit brigade has used to fool the gullible.

Answer me this.WHO takes back control,me?you?or some right wing little englander politicians who don't give a toss for Wales or the people and you just have to consult the history books to see the truth in that.We haven't controled our own destiny since before the effin Romans invaded.

Lovely poster though.

I will answer you this, THE UK SHOULD DECIDE ITS OWN FUTURE/RULES/POLICIES / NOT GERMANY/FRANCE etc etc DECIDING FOR US.
Countries should decide their own futures Not others decide for us.

That includes Wales then

The biggest disappointment for me today was to see that 28% chose not to vote. Although I voted out, I will still wonder what the result would have been if at least 90% had voted. I am in the majority as far as actual voters were concerned, but I obviously don't know if I am in the majority as far as the population of the UK is concerned.

I agree with you totally here. But as a remain supporter I have more respect for the people who bothered to come out to vote. The vote was won fair and square by the people who were interested enough to vote. I/we can't use nearly 30% of the nation not voting as an excuse. I respect out democracy that we free to vote or not vote, we know it be a fair vote none of this silly mark you papers with pen (insulting to our country). And at the end of it the majority of votes want to leave so I'm not going to sulk and cry, but move on and be positive about our countries future.

Does this mean when I get around to buying a new toaster I can get one without reduced power, and not have to worry about toasting my bread twice before it turns brown. Hopefully my vacuum cleaner can remain the same as well. Was a bit worried it would take me twice as long to clean my carpets while my next door neighbour takes her kids to school in her massive 4x4.

Lol. I have no idea what the future holds.

I take you post as tongue in cheek as you come across as an intelligent well informed gentleman, and I don't believe you would have voted leave based on a toaster and vacuum cleaner. I'm sure you had reasons that are important to you and you votes in what you thought best for the country, along with the majority of workers yesterday.

I based my decision on my own studies, and ignored the newspapers as much as possible. Only time will tell if I made the right decision. There were pro's and con's on both sides of the debate. Whatever happens, no-one knows what the future holds whether we remained or left. I am a homeowner and have shares in a bank, so I am probably supposed to vote remain. However, I voted leave because I believed that would be best for my grandchildren when they are older. We may be in for a bumpy ride, but let's see where we are a couple of years down the road. My local town has not exactly prospered in recent times. We have a new Lido courtesy of Lottery funding, a nice park, a couple of decent chippies but not much else. Can't see what being a member did for us.

Interesting thing is the valleys who are supposed to get millions in EU aid voted out so they obviously don't think th EU did anything for them either?

As someone from the "valley's " who voted out i agree there as been money from e.u. spent in the area but the valleys are not unique in wales or the u.k. for that matter. Most people want jobs well paid if available rather than statues. It might not come to it but now the government will be solely responsible for their actions they can distribute the money hopefully fairly and perhaps in wales it can be distributed to all areas with no bias towards the m4 corridor' valleys or any town or city

The biggest disappointment for me today was to see that 28% chose not to vote. Although I voted out, I will still wonder what the result would have been if at least 90% had voted. I am in the majority as far as actual voters were concerned, but I obviously don't know if I am in the majority as far as the population of the UK is concerned.

We can agree on that point mate. This was so important and 28% of the eligible population had better things to do.

The biggest disappointment for me today was to see that 28% chose not to vote. Although I voted out, I will still wonder what the result would have been if at least 90% had voted. I am in the majority as far as actual voters were concerned, but I obviously don't know if I am in the majority as far as the population of the UK is concerned.

We can agree on that point mate. This was so important and 28% of the eligible population had better things to do.

I was an Out voter and obviously I am happy with the outcome, but I agree for something so important I think it's really disappointing that there wasn't a bigger turnout in what is essentially the most important vote in our lives

Personally I would have been happy with anything over 70%.

Personally I would have been happy with anything over 70%.

don't get me wrong it's a good turnout but I was expecting a bigger turnout for something that affects the country long term

:o

That statement is probably the biggest lie of the brexit brigade has used to fool the gullible.

Answer me this.WHO takes back control,me?you?or some right wing little englander politicians who don't give a toss for Wales or the people and you just have to consult the history books to see the truth in that.We haven't controled our own destiny since before the effin Romans invaded.

Lovely poster though.

I will answer you this, THE UK SHOULD DECIDE ITS OWN FUTURE/RULES/POLICIES / NOT GERMANY/FRANCE etc etc DECIDING FOR US.
Countries should decide their own futures Not others decide for us.

That includes Wales then

Well it looks like Wales and England voted together out.

The biggest disappointment for me today was to see that 28% chose not to vote. Although I voted out, I will still wonder what the result would have been if at least 90% had voted. I am in the majority as far as actual voters were concerned, but I obviously don't know if I am in the majority as far as the population of the UK is concerned.

I agree with you totally here. But as a remain supporter I have more respect for the people who bothered to come out to vote. The vote was won fair and square by the people who were interested enough to vote. I/we can't use nearly 30% of the nation not voting as an excuse. I respect out democracy that we free to vote or not vote, we know it be a fair vote none of this silly mark you papers with pen (insulting to our country). And at the end of it the majority of votes want to leave so I'm not going to sulk and cry, but move on and be positive about our countries future.

Does this mean when I get around to buying a new toaster I can get one without reduced power, and not have to worry about toasting my bread twice before it turns brown. Hopefully my vacuum cleaner can remain the same as well. Was a bit worried it would take me twice as long to clean my carpets while my next door neighbour takes her kids to school in her massive 4x4.

Good un

Years of uncertainty lie ahead threatening jobs, low prices, businesses & our economy.
Leaving Europe will leave us isolated, vulnerable and financially and politically weaker in a turbulent world. Confusion, panic, fear, uncertainty... Could this also lead to a divided rather than United Kingdom, who knows? But what's done is done, the British public have decided to take a leap into the unknown & who knows what will happen next?

Years of uncertainty lie ahead threatening jobs, low prices, businesses & our economy.
Leaving Europe will leave us isolated, vulnerable and financially and politically weaker in a turbulent world. Confusion, panic, fear, uncertainty... Could this also lead to a divided rather than United Kingdom, who knows? But what's done is done, the British public have decided to take a leap into the unknown & who knows what will happen next?

Very well put. I hope I'm wrong and hope leaving won't be as bad as I fear. I've never wanted to be so wrong about something before. But it is what it is so hopefully onwards and upwards.

Now to cheer us on to euro glory tomorrow.

Years of uncertainty lie ahead threatening jobs, low prices, businesses & our economy.
Leaving Europe will leave us isolated, vulnerable and financially and politically weaker in a turbulent world. Confusion, panic, fear, uncertainty... Could this also lead to a divided rather than United Kingdom, who knows? But what's done is done, the British public have decided to take a leap into the unknown & who knows what will happen next?

Bit like your country Spain then and are in the EU. Is the unemployment rate there about 40% for young people?

Years of uncertainty lie ahead threatening jobs, low prices, businesses & our economy.
Leaving Europe will leave us isolated, vulnerable and financially and politically weaker in a turbulent world. Confusion, panic, fear, uncertainty... Could this also lead to a divided rather than United Kingdom, who knows? But what's done is done, the British public have decided to take a leap into the unknown & who knows what will happen next?

Sensible words Mason - amazing how your generation can see what other, more experienced older heads couldn't.

Years of uncertainty lie ahead threatening jobs, low prices, businesses & our economy.
Leaving Europe will leave us isolated, vulnerable and financially and politically weaker in a turbulent world. Confusion, panic, fear, uncertainty... Could this also lead to a divided rather than United Kingdom, who knows? But what's done is done, the British public have decided to take a leap into the unknown & who knows what will happen next?

Sensible words Mason - amazing how your generation can see what other, more experienced older heads couldn't.

Or how about his opinon differs from others who have voted differently to him , I respect his opinion and others and don't call them thickos ,racists ,uneducated etc as others have done

Years of uncertainty lie ahead threatening jobs, low prices, businesses & our economy.
Leaving Europe will leave us isolated, vulnerable and financially and politically weaker in a turbulent world. Confusion, panic, fear, uncertainty... Could this also lead to a divided rather than United Kingdom, who knows? But what's done is done, the British public have decided to take a leap into the unknown & who knows what will happen next?

Sensible words Mason - amazing how your generation can see what other, more experienced older heads couldn't.

Or how about his opinon differs from others who have voted differently to him , I respect his opinion and others and don't call them thickos ,racists ,uneducated etc as others have done

I haven't called anyone anything and made no comment on how anyone voted. Its my opinion that those with more experience of life have seen fit to subject his generation in particular to the uncertainty that he talks about.

Years of uncertainty lie ahead threatening jobs, low prices, businesses & our economy.
Leaving Europe will leave us isolated, vulnerable and financially and politically weaker in a turbulent world. Confusion, panic, fear, uncertainty... Could this also lead to a divided rather than United Kingdom, who knows? But what's done is done, the British public have decided to take a leap into the unknown & who knows what will happen next?

Sensible words Mason - amazing how your generation can see what other, more experienced older heads couldn't.

Or how about his opinon differs from others who have voted differently to him , I respect his opinion and others and don't call them thickos ,racists ,uneducated etc as others have done

I haven't called anyone anything and made no comment on how anyone voted. Its my opinion that those with more experience of life have seen fit to subject his generation in particular to the uncertainty that he talks about.

Just to be clear I wasn't aiming the comment at you(apologise if it come across that way ) just in general ,today I've been called a racist , uneducated, biggot, a c**t and a thicko

Years of uncertainty lie ahead threatening jobs, low prices, businesses & our economy.
Leaving Europe will leave us isolated, vulnerable and financially and politically weaker in a turbulent world. Confusion, panic, fear, uncertainty... Could this also lead to a divided rather than United Kingdom, who knows? But what's done is done, the British public have decided to take a leap into the unknown & who knows what will happen next?

Sensible words Mason - amazing how your generation can see what other, more experienced older heads couldn't.

Or how about his opinon differs from others who have voted differently to him , I respect his opinion and others and don't call them thickos ,racists ,uneducated etc as others have done

I haven't called anyone anything and made no comment on how anyone voted. Its my opinion that those with more experience of life have seen fit to subject his generation in particular to the uncertainty that he talks about.

Just to be clear I wasn't aiming the comment at you(apologise if it come across that way ) just in general ,today I've been called a racist , uneducated, biggot, a c**t and a thicko

Sounds like a normal day for me lol.

Years of uncertainty lie ahead threatening jobs, low prices, businesses & our economy.
Leaving Europe will leave us isolated, vulnerable and financially and politically weaker in a turbulent world. Confusion, panic, fear, uncertainty... Could this also lead to a divided rather than United Kingdom, who knows? But what's done is done, the British public have decided to take a leap into the unknown & who knows what will happen next?

Sensible words Mason - amazing how your generation can see what other, more experienced older heads couldn't.

Or how about his opinon differs from others who have voted differently to him , I respect his opinion and others and don't call them thickos ,racists ,uneducated etc as others have done

I haven't called anyone anything and made no comment on how anyone voted. Its my opinion that those with more experience of life have seen fit to subject his generation in particular to the uncertainty that he talks about.

Just to be clear I wasn't aiming the comment at you(apologise if it come across that way ) just in general ,today I've been called a racist , uneducated, biggot, a c**t and a thicko

No worries mate - its been an emotional day for many people, in many ways. I've tried to keep my responses dignified, but I do fear that the UK and Wales in particular has made the wrong call, but we will see.

The £ hit a 30 year low overnight!

What a load off shit we all go back to work on Monday as nothing has happened

What a load off shit we all go back to work on Monday as nothing has happened

The whole reaction to the result by some people who wanted to remain in the eu is abit over the top. I say this because people have said things along the lines of - what have we done? It's the worst thing that could ever happen, well done idiots, the U.K. Is stuffed in so many words but the truth is that no one actually knows exactly what is going to happen so why can't people stop trying to be politicians themselves, pretending to be someone in the know - it could be something good or it could be something that'll prove to be the wrong decision and many people probably voted having listened to both sides and went with what thier gut feeling was/best for them, thier family and the country etc etc but all in all if anyone actually knows that this is the biggest mistake and was completely the wrong decision (and I stress the word knows) than perhaps your in the wrong job and should be up there with the leaders of the country! I go back to the point that know one actually knows exactly what is going to happen!

The £ hit a 30 year low overnight!

Yes because money men speculated to make a killing!

The £ hit a 30 year low overnight!

Yes because money men speculated to make a killing!

The £ hit a 30 year low overnight!

Yes because money men speculated to make a killing!

Years of uncertainty lie ahead threatening jobs, low prices, businesses & our economy.
Leaving Europe will leave us isolated, vulnerable and financially and politically weaker in a turbulent world. Confusion, panic, fear, uncertainty... Could this also lead to a divided rather than United Kingdom, who knows? But what's done is done, the British public have decided to take a leap into the unknown & who knows what will happen next?

Sensible words Mason - amazing how your generation can see what other, more experienced older heads couldn't.

The guy hasn't got a clue. He lives in a country close to bankruptcy despite being a member of EU. Yet he's more concerned about us

Now the people of the valleys and the poorer parts of Wales have rejected the EU, will they now have to go to London with their begging bowel and persuade the right wing tory government for funding ? good luck there

or maybe the shit labour government in Cardiff Bay could stop blowing the budget on rubbish

Now the people of the valleys and the poorer parts of Wales have rejected the EU, will they now have to go to London with their begging bowel and persuade the right wing tory government for funding ? good luck there

or maybe the shit labour government in Cardiff Bay could stop blowing the budget on rubbish

Such as?

:o

That statement is probably the biggest lie of the brexit brigade has used to fool the gullible.

Answer me this.WHO takes back control,me?you?or some right wing little englander politicians who don't give a toss for Wales or the people and you just have to consult the history books to see the truth in that.We haven't controled our own destiny since before the effin Romans invaded.

Lovely poster though.

I will answer you this, THE UK SHOULD DECIDE ITS OWN FUTURE/RULES/POLICIES / NOT GERMANY/FRANCE etc etc DECIDING FOR US.
Countries should decide their own futures Not others decide for us.

That includes Wales then

Well it looks like Wales and England voted together out.

You said that "Countries should decide their own futures Not others decide for us." So that should include Wales, (should it not?) as we are a country too, or are you saying that all countries APART FROM WALES should decide their own futures. That would be pure hypocrisy. Scotland didn't vote to leave, neither did Northern Ireland. It's a right f*cking mess already. I can see the end of the UK. The irony of it all....the UK Independence Party actually bringing about the end of the UK. You can't make it up.

Now the people of the valleys and the poorer parts of Wales have rejected the EU, will they now have to go to London with their begging bowel and persuade the right wing tory government for funding ? good luck there

or maybe the shit labour government in Cardiff Bay could stop blowing the budget on rubbish

Such as?

10k Carwyn Jones spent on a plane to watch the football, 190k on the door mice bridges along the church village bypass, 6.3million on Ponty lido which hasn't got a car park! I could go on but it's making me sick

The EU failed to negotiate a better deal for the UK regarding certain concerns we had. Dave came back with nothing new. The EU called our "bluff" and lost. I think they are the ones with the most to regret.