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Re: " THE BIGGEST DEAL DONE, FOR 10 YEARS FOR CARDIFF CITY "

Mon Feb 01, 2016 8:00 pm

castleblue wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
castleblue wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
castleblue wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Cwmbran Blue wrote:In a bizarre twist, Sam Hammam contacted close confidant Annis Abraham on 17 December 2007 and dictated an open letter to Echo sports writer Terry Phillips. Hammam said: “I want to stress that I never want the football club back. I want to move on with my life and the decision has been made to leave the United Kingdom for good. I am never coming back. I am drained and I am hurting. I have lost my power. My wings have been taken away from me. All I want now is for everyone to get their money. I say again, I just want to get on with my life and be with my family. I am not Langston and I cannot tell it what to do. Langston got fed up with me long ago. I have no power over it. I never want to hurt Cardiff City and never would. I love the club, I love the fans and hopefully this will be sorted in the New Year. All I want is a future for Cardiff City Football Club, but I won’t be a part of it. I love the club and want the fans to remember me and love me.”

Lifelong Bluebirds fan Abraham commented: “While Sam was on the phone I asked him: ‘Are you Langston? Please be honest if you think anything of me.’ He told me he is not Langston and said he can’t tell Langston what to do. Sam was different to the man I have known in the past. He was quiet and sounded drained. He said he won’t ever try to hurt Cardiff City.”



I will answer this and yes to this day Ive always maintained and Believed he was Langston and have said it a hundred times on here and in my books.

On this I feel he let me down.



Don't beat yourself up Annis because in my opinion the only person who needs to take a long hard look at themselves is Sam Hammam. If today has shown us anything it's that this man is prepared to use and abuse personal friendships to his own ends.

This whole episode has cost our club a fortune and VT in particular but let's face the legal bill he is facing is nothing but pocket change to a billionaire, and VT probably thinks it's a price worth paying to out SM for exactly what he is.



:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:


Cheers Gary, I've always been honest in what I've ever said and yes it does hurt that he lied to a good friend.

But I have always said Cardiff City comes first before any owner or manager etc :thumbright: :bluescarf: :ayatollah: :bluebird:



Absolutely right mate and I've always believed managers, players and owners come and go but the lifeblood of football clubs is the fans - AND THAT'S EXACTLY HOW IT SHOULD BE.

As far as SH goes I hope he wakes up in the morning with a really bad dose of knob warts and has to spend every single penny of this Langston money searching for a medical breakthrough to cure him before his dick drops off.


:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:


:lol:

Cheers Gary, ONWARDS AND UPWARDS FOR THE CITY, U NEVER KNOW BEAT MK AND WE COULD BE GETTING CLOSER AND IN BLUE :bluebird: :bluescarf: :ayatollah:




We have had a good transfer window in my opinion, even with the embargo, and if we can ship a few more out before 11 o'clock it will be the best one in years.

This is the third transfer window RS has had since joining the club which means the squad is his and his alone, in fairness to the guy come tomorrow morning the squad will look better, more together, more focused and anything is still possible.


But beating MK Dons is an absolute must.


:bluescarf: :bluescarf:



Gary, the last few weeks Ive honestly enjoyed the matches and have said so in my match reports.

Slade has to now deliver top 6,to convince fans and yes it can be done :thumbright: :thumbright: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :bluebird: :bluebird: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:

Re: " THE BIGGEST DEAL DONE, FOR 10 YEARS FOR CARDIFF CITY "

Mon Feb 01, 2016 8:00 pm

castleblue wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Cwmbran Blue wrote:In a bizarre twist, Sam Hammam contacted close confidant Annis Abraham on 17 December 2007 and dictated an open letter to Echo sports writer Terry Phillips. Hammam said: “I want to stress that I never want the football club back. I want to move on with my life and the decision has been made to leave the United Kingdom for good. I am never coming back. I am drained and I am hurting. I have lost my power. My wings have been taken away from me. All I want now is for everyone to get their money. I say again, I just want to get on with my life and be with my family. I am not Langston and I cannot tell it what to do. Langston got fed up with me long ago. I have no power over it. I never want to hurt Cardiff City and never would. I love the club, I love the fans and hopefully this will be sorted in the New Year. All I want is a future for Cardiff City Football Club, but I won’t be a part of it. I love the club and want the fans to remember me and love me.”

Lifelong Bluebirds fan Abraham commented: “While Sam was on the phone I asked him: ‘Are you Langston? Please be honest if you think anything of me.’ He told me he is not Langston and said he can’t tell Langston what to do. Sam was different to the man I have known in the past. He was quiet and sounded drained. He said he won’t ever try to hurt Cardiff City.”



I will answer this and yes to this day Ive always maintained and Believed he was Langston and have said it a hundred times on oohere and in my books.

On this I feel he let me down.[/quot

yes he did annis and many others
but I think its wrong your being singled out here
people gloating and some will say you desreve it after the bashing you give tan and slade but your only being honest with your oppinions
but I think we can all move on now and re unite in our support for OUR club
cant wait for our next game bring it on
See you in the sand martin for lunch mate
keep your head up


Don't beat yourself up Annis because in my opinion the only person who needs to take a long hard look at themselves is Sam Hammam. If today has shown us anything it's that this man is prepared to use and abuse personal friendships to his own ends.

This whole episode has cost our club a fortune and VT in particular but let's face the legal bill he is facing is nothing but pocket change to a billionaire, and VT probably thinks it's a price worth paying to out SM for exactly what he is.



:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:






yes he did annis and many others
but I think its wrong your being singled out here
people gloating and some will say you desreve it after the bashing you give tan and slade but your only being honest with your oppinions
but I think we can all move on now and re unite in our support for OUR club
cant wait for our next game bring it on
See you in the sand martin for lunch mate
keep your head up

Re: " THE BIGGEST DEAL DONE, FOR 10 YEARS FOR CARDIFF CITY "

Mon Feb 01, 2016 8:01 pm

Bluebird1977 wrote:So will tan convert now like he said or will it be another when " the malky situation is sorted " lie :laughing6:

And what will you say on here if he does convert debt to equity ?Judging by your track record, absolutely nothing I suspect.

Re: " THE BIGGEST DEAL DONE, FOR 10 YEARS FOR CARDIFF CITY "

Mon Feb 01, 2016 8:03 pm

troobloo3339 wrote:
castleblue wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Cwmbran Blue wrote:In a bizarre twist, Sam Hammam contacted close confidant Annis Abraham on 17 December 2007 and dictated an open letter to Echo sports writer Terry Phillips. Hammam said: “I want to stress that I never want the football club back. I want to move on with my life and the decision has been made to leave the United Kingdom for good. I am never coming back. I am drained and I am hurting. I have lost my power. My wings have been taken away from me. All I want now is for everyone to get their money. I say again, I just want to get on with my life and be with my family. I am not Langston and I cannot tell it what to do. Langston got fed up with me long ago. I have no power over it. I never want to hurt Cardiff City and never would. I love the club, I love the fans and hopefully this will be sorted in the New Year. All I want is a future for Cardiff City Football Club, but I won’t be a part of it. I love the club and want the fans to remember me and love me.”

Lifelong Bluebirds fan Abraham commented: “While Sam was on the phone I asked him: ‘Are you Langston? Please be honest if you think anything of me.’ He told me he is not Langston and said he can’t tell Langston what to do. Sam was different to the man I have known in the past. He was quiet and sounded drained. He said he won’t ever try to hurt Cardiff City.”



I will answer this and yes to this day Ive always maintained and Believed he was Langston and have said it a hundred times on oohere and in my books.

On this I feel he let me down.[/quot

yes he did annis and many others
but I think its wrong your being singled out here
people gloating and some will say you desreve it after the bashing you give tan and slade but your only being honest with your oppinions
but I think we can all move on now and re unite in our support for OUR club
cant wait for our next game bring it on
See you in the sand martin for lunch mate
keep your head up


Don't beat yourself up Annis because in my opinion the only person who needs to take a long hard look at themselves is Sam Hammam. If today has shown us anything it's that this man is prepared to use and abuse personal friendships to his own ends.

This whole episode has cost our club a fortune and VT in particular but let's face the legal bill he is facing is nothing but pocket change to a billionaire, and VT probably thinks it's a price worth paying to out SM for exactly what he is.



:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:






yes he did annis and many others
but I think its wrong your being singled out here
people gloating and some will say you desreve it after the bashing you give tan and slade but your only being honest with your oppinions
but I think we can all move on now and re unite in our support for OUR club
cant wait for our next game bring it on
See you in the sand martin for lunch mate
keep your head up



:lol:

Means a lot Steve, from one of my biggest debaters, Ive always said how I see it and believed :ayatollah: :bluebird: :bluebird: :bluescarf:

See you on Saturday in the Sand Martin for lunch :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluebird: :bluebird:

Re: " THE BIGGEST DEAL DONE, FOR 10 YEARS FOR CARDIFF CITY "

Mon Feb 01, 2016 8:05 pm

Colourblind wrote:
Bluebird1977 wrote:So will tan convert now like he said or will it be another when " the malky situation is sorted " lie :laughing6:

And what will you say on here if he does convert debt to equity ?Judging by your track record, absolutely nothing I suspect.

Id say its taken him years and hes still a c**t but we wont get around to me saying it as it would of happened by now if it was going to :thumbup:

Re: " THE BIGGEST DEAL DONE, FOR 10 YEARS FOR CARDIFF CITY "

Mon Feb 01, 2016 8:09 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
castleblue wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Cwmbran Blue wrote:In a bizarre twist, Sam Hammam contacted close confidant Annis Abraham on 17 December 2007 and dictated an open letter to Echo sports writer Terry Phillips. Hammam said: “I want to stress that I never want the football club back. I want to move on with my life and the decision has been made to leave the United Kingdom for good. I am never coming back. I am drained and I am hurting. I have lost my power. My wings have been taken away from me. All I want now is for everyone to get their money. I say again, I just want to get on with my life and be with my family. I am not Langston and I cannot tell it what to do. Langston got fed up with me long ago. I have no power over it. I never want to hurt Cardiff City and never would. I love the club, I love the fans and hopefully this will be sorted in the New Year. All I want is a future for Cardiff City Football Club, but I won’t be a part of it. I love the club and want the fans to remember me and love me.”

Lifelong Bluebirds fan Abraham commented: “While Sam was on the phone I asked him: ‘Are you Langston? Please be honest if you think anything of me.’ He told me he is not Langston and said he can’t tell Langston what to do. Sam was different to the man I have known in the past. He was quiet and sounded drained. He said he won’t ever try to hurt Cardiff City.”



I will answer this and yes to this day Ive always maintained and Believed he was Langston and have said it a hundred times on here and in my books.

On this I feel he let me down.



Don't beat yourself up Annis because in my opinion the only person who needs to take a long hard look at themselves is Sam Hammam. If today has shown us anything it's that this man is prepared to use and abuse personal friendships to his own ends.

This whole episode has cost our club a fortune and VT in particular but let's face the legal bill he is facing is nothing but pocket change to a billionaire, and VT probably thinks it's a price worth paying to out SM for exactly what he is.



:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:


Cheers Gary, I've always been honest in what I've ever said and yes it does hurt that he lied to a good friend.

But I have always said Cardiff City comes first before any owner or manager etc :thumbright: :bluescarf: :ayatollah: :bluebird:



Annis, you certainly seem to have a warped morality in all this? You seem to be happy that Tan, who you hate is being made to pay off a debt to a man, who has bare faced lied to you and in turn thrown any claims of friendship in your face. A man, in fact who ran up debts, that we thought he was personally covering, yet when the chips were down refused to. Yet, constructed a lie, that he had been able to secure a loan, from outside investors to pay off his debt. Yet, as we now know, that loan was made by himself to himself, which in turn the club, you so love has had to find a way of paying off. Yet, you still side with that man and no doubt still think of him as a friend? and just because this particular owner (Tan) through his own naivety and with the support of the board of so called Cardiff loving fans, changed Cardiffs colour and badge. You really have a warped sense of morality IMO :roll: :roll:

Re: " THE BIGGEST DEAL DONE, FOR 10 YEARS FOR CARDIFF CITY "

Mon Feb 01, 2016 8:11 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
davids wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
davids wrote:In realty there was no real winner or loser in this particular court case.

Sam wanted his money back - he got it.

Tan wanted to know who Langton was/is - now he knows.

It's cost Tan an extra £2 million in a bonus though to find out something that he could have found out by looking at this message board i.e Sam = Langston!

:laughing6:


:lol:

PLUS
David and £3mill in costs, was it really worth it, in my opinion NO


But hopefully we can all get back to supporting CCFC :ayatollah: :bluebird:


On that I'm sure we can all agree! :thumbup: :bluescarf: :bluebird:



100% :ayatollah: :bluebird: :bluescarf:

Yes, enough of court cases,only costly and it hurts our club at some stage, SO NO MORE FROM ME ON THIS MATTER :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

:ayatollah: :ayatollah: " TIME TO MOVE ON NOW AND SUPPORT THE MIGHTY BLUEBIRDS " :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

And why not give the Tan bashing a rest while you're at it Annis. We all know how you feel by now.

Re: " THE BIGGEST DEAL DONE, FOR 10 YEARS FOR CARDIFF CITY "

Mon Feb 01, 2016 8:14 pm

Bluebird1977 wrote:
Colourblind wrote:
Bluebird1977 wrote:So will tan convert now like he said or will it be another when " the malky situation is sorted " lie :laughing6:

And what will you say on here if he does convert debt to equity ?Judging by your track record, absolutely nothing I suspect.

Id say its taken him years and hes still a c**t but we wont get around to me saying it as it would of happened by now if it was going to :thumbup:


Tan has always said he "COULD" convert debt to equity, only when the situation with Sam Hammam has been sorted.

Now thats nearly sorted, his debt to equity should be a good possibility now.

Re: " THE BIGGEST DEAL DONE, FOR 10 YEARS FOR CARDIFF CITY "

Mon Feb 01, 2016 8:15 pm

Leytonstoneblue wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
castleblue wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Cwmbran Blue wrote:In a bizarre twist, Sam Hammam contacted close confidant Annis Abraham on 17 December 2007 and dictated an open letter to Echo sports writer Terry Phillips. Hammam said: “I want to stress that I never want the football club back. I want to move on with my life and the decision has been made to leave the United Kingdom for good. I am never coming back. I am drained and I am hurting. I have lost my power. My wings have been taken away from me. All I want now is for everyone to get their money. I say again, I just want to get on with my life and be with my family. I am not Langston and I cannot tell it what to do. Langston got fed up with me long ago. I have no power over it. I never want to hurt Cardiff City and never would. I love the club, I love the fans and hopefully this will be sorted in the New Year. All I want is a future for Cardiff City Football Club, but I won’t be a part of it. I love the club and want the fans to remember me and love me.”

Lifelong Bluebirds fan Abraham commented: “While Sam was on the phone I asked him: ‘Are you Langston? Please be honest if you think anything of me.’ He told me he is not Langston and said he can’t tell Langston what to do. Sam was different to the man I have known in the past. He was quiet and sounded drained. He said he won’t ever try to hurt Cardiff City.”



I will answer this and yes to this day Ive always maintained and Believed he was Langston and have said it a hundred times on here and in my books.

On this I feel he let me down.



Don't beat yourself up Annis because in my opinion the only person who needs to take a long hard look at themselves is Sam Hammam. If today has shown us anything it's that this man is prepared to use and abuse personal friendships to his own ends.

This whole episode has cost our club a fortune and VT in particular but let's face the legal bill he is facing is nothing but pocket change to a billionaire, and VT probably thinks it's a price worth paying to out SM for exactly what he is.



:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:


Cheers Gary, I've always been honest in what I've ever said and yes it does hurt that he lied to a good friend.

But I have always said Cardiff City comes first before any owner or manager etc :thumbright: :bluescarf: :ayatollah: :bluebird:



Annis, you certainly seem to have a warped morality in all this? You seem to be happy that Tan, who you hate is being made to pay off a debt to a man, who has bare faced lied to you and in turn thrown any claims of friendship in your face. A man, in fact who ran up debts, that we thought he was personally covering, yet when the chips were down refused to. Yet, constructed a lie, that he had been able to secure a loan, from outside investors to pay off his debt. Yet, as we now know, that loan was made by himself to himself, which in turn the club, you so love has had to find a way of paying off. Yet, you still side with that man and no doubt still think of him as a friend? and just because this particular owner (Tan) through his own naivety and with the support of the board of so called Cardiff loving fans, changed Cardiffs colour and badge. You really have a warped sense of morality IMO :roll: :roll:



I won't change my mind on Vincent Tan until he makes our club Debt Free as promised, thats my belief and opinion.

I'm entitled to my opinion, like you are about Slade, as every time I give a positive on him, you go for him.

Thats what football is all about,differance of opinions/beliefs etc and should be Respected.

Re: " THE BIGGEST DEAL DONE, FOR 10 YEARS FOR CARDIFF CITY "

Mon Feb 01, 2016 8:31 pm

eddiep wrote:I remember a conversation with Carl years ago.
He was convinced Sam wasn't Langston and I was convinced he was.

So obvious.

I hope the pro Sam posts can Fukk off now
And we all get behind
Ccfc

Eddie you are correct, I was convinced Sam was not Langston.

I share your hope that we all get behind the team and support them through the remainder of this season.

Re: " THE BIGGEST DEAL DONE, FOR 10 YEARS FOR CARDIFF CITY "

Mon Feb 01, 2016 8:42 pm

carlccfc wrote:
eddiep wrote:I remember a conversation with Carl years ago.
He was convinced Sam wasn't Langston and I was convinced he was.

So obvious.

I hope the pro Sam posts can Fukk off now
And we all get behind
Ccfc

Eddie you are correct, I was convinced Sam was not Langston.

I share your hope that we all get behind the team and support them through the remainder of this season.



Exactly

We are all Bluebirds and you two have shown more loyalty to Cardiff City than may many others through these troubled times.


:bluescarf: :ayatollah: :bluebird:

Re: " THE BIGGEST DEAL DONE, FOR 10 YEARS FOR CARDIFF CITY "

Mon Feb 01, 2016 8:43 pm

So Langstone was Sam.. No surprise there! Well done Sam for taking your pound of flesh!!

Re: " THE BIGGEST DEAL DONE, FOR 10 YEARS FOR CARDIFF CITY "

Mon Feb 01, 2016 8:51 pm

Steve Borley has tweeted that the club did NOT agree to Sams legal costs.
Also that the club have got a reduction in the money owed.'

SAMs last bit of bravado if you ask me

Sam lied to us over the ownership and is probably lying about this too.

Annis, I agree we should still keep the pressure on for debt to equity as even though it's good news this is settled, we are still at the mercy of Tan, and at any time he could pull the plug and we would go into a downward spiral of which it could take a generation to recover from.

Time to move on and EVERYBODY get behind the club.

Re: " THE BIGGEST DEAL DONE, FOR 10 YEARS FOR CARDIFF CITY "

Mon Feb 01, 2016 8:52 pm

Credit where credit is due so well done VT and some great news it's been agreed to pay it off I'll say no more other than lets move forward now the Langston debt is finally gone . :ayatollah:

Re: " THE BIGGEST DEAL DONE, FOR 10 YEARS FOR CARDIFF CITY "

Mon Feb 01, 2016 9:39 pm

Lawnmower wrote:Steve Borley has tweeted that the club did NOT agree to Sams legal costs.
Also that the club have got a reduction in the money owed.'

SAMs last bit of bravado if you ask me

Sam lied to us over the ownership and is probably lying about this too.

Annis, I agree we should still keep the pressure on for debt to equity as even though it's good news this is settled, we are still at the mercy of Tan, and at any time he could pull the plug and we would go into a downward spiral of which it could take a generation to recover from.

Time to move on and EVERYBODY get behind the club.


Tim, Ive just rung Sam to have a go at him and he still maintains he is not Langston.
I then just read every news article and not one actually states that he has said he is or nor does the Judge? ? ?

Ive also found out its not in the Court papers or was ever asked in Court.

Re: " THE BIGGEST DEAL DONE, FOR 10 YEARS FOR CARDIFF CITY "

Mon Feb 01, 2016 9:42 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Lawnmower wrote:Steve Borley has tweeted that the club did NOT agree to Sams legal costs.
Also that the club have got a reduction in the money owed.'

SAMs last bit of bravado if you ask me

Sam lied to us over the ownership and is probably lying about this too.

Annis, I agree we should still keep the pressure on for debt to equity as even though it's good news this is settled, we are still at the mercy of Tan, and at any time he could pull the plug and we would go into a downward spiral of which it could take a generation to recover from.

Time to move on and EVERYBODY get behind the club.


Tim, Ive just rung Sam to have a go at him and he still maintains he is not Langston.
I then just read every news article and not one actually states that he has said he is or nor does the Judge? ? ?

Ive also found out its not in the Court papers or was ever asked in Court.

So he is not Langston here we go again :lol:

Re: " THE BIGGEST DEAL DONE, FOR 10 YEARS FOR CARDIFF CITY "

Mon Feb 01, 2016 9:47 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Lawnmower wrote:Steve Borley has tweeted that the club did NOT agree to Sams legal costs.
Also that the club have got a reduction in the money owed.'

SAMs last bit of bravado if you ask me

Sam lied to us over the ownership and is probably lying about this too.

Annis, I agree we should still keep the pressure on for debt to equity as even though it's good news this is settled, we are still at the mercy of Tan, and at any time he could pull the plug and we would go into a downward spiral of which it could take a generation to recover from.

Time to move on and EVERYBODY get behind the club.


Tim, Ive just rung Sam to have a go at him and he still maintains he is not Langston.


I then just read every news article and not one actually states that he has said he is or nor does the Judge? ? ?

Ive also found out its not in the Court papers or was ever asked in Court.

So he is not Langston here we go again :lol:



:lol:

Wez, Ive just spoken to head of Sport and it was never said in Court or by the Judge or by Sam Hammam.
Steve Tucker has put it out,without one quote or fact or anything to back it up.

Sam still says and states he is not.


But I am really fed up with it all.


Come on City just beat MK DONS :bluebird: :ayatollah: :bluescarf:

Re: " THE BIGGEST DEAL DONE, FOR 10 YEARS FOR CARDIFF CITY "

Mon Feb 01, 2016 9:49 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Lawnmower wrote:Steve Borley has tweeted that the club did NOT agree to Sams legal costs.
Also that the club have got a reduction in the money owed.'

SAMs last bit of bravado if you ask me

Sam lied to us over the ownership and is probably lying about this too.

Annis, I agree we should still keep the pressure on for debt to equity as even though it's good news this is settled, we are still at the mercy of Tan, and at any time he could pull the plug and we would go into a downward spiral of which it could take a generation to recover from.

Time to move on and EVERYBODY get behind the club.


Tim, Ive just rung Sam to have a go at him and he still maintains he is not Langston.


I then just read every news article and not one actually states that he has said he is or nor does the Judge? ? ?

Ive also found out its not in the Court papers or was ever asked in Court.

So he is not Langston here we go again :lol:



:lol:

Wez, Ive just spoken to head of Sport and it was never said in Court or by the Judge or by Sam Hammam.
Steve Tucker has put it out,without one quote or fact or anything to back it up.

Sam still says and states he is not.


But I am really fed up with it all.


Come on City just beat MK DONS :bluebird: :ayatollah: :bluescarf:

He says he's not but does he say who they are tho ? He could clear it easy but chooses to keep the lie up strange the whole thing

Re: " THE BIGGEST DEAL DONE, FOR 10 YEARS FOR CARDIFF CITY "

Mon Feb 01, 2016 9:49 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Lawnmower wrote:Steve Borley has tweeted that the club did NOT agree to Sams legal costs.
Also that the club have got a reduction in the money owed.'

SAMs last bit of bravado if you ask me

Sam lied to us over the ownership and is probably lying about this too.

Annis, I agree we should still keep the pressure on for debt to equity as even though it's good news this is settled, we are still at the mercy of Tan, and at any time he could pull the plug and we would go into a downward spiral of which it could take a generation to recover from.

Time to move on and EVERYBODY get behind the club.


Tim, Ive just rung Sam to have a go at him and he still maintains he is not Langston.


I then just read every news article and not one actually states that he has said he is or nor does the Judge? ? ?

Ive also found out its not in the Court papers or was ever asked in Court.

So he is not Langston here we go again :lol:



:lol:

Wez, Ive just spoken to head of Sport and it was never said in Court or by the Judge or by Sam Hammam.
Steve Tucker has put it out,without one quote or fact or anything to back it up.

Sam still says and states he is not.


But I am really fed up with it all.


Come on City just beat MK DONS :bluebird: :ayatollah: :bluescarf:


Here you are annis, the club solicitor stating that sam has admitted to it. :thumbup:

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... y-10821125

Re: " THE BIGGEST DEAL DONE, FOR 10 YEARS FOR CARDIFF CITY "

Mon Feb 01, 2016 9:49 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Lawnmower wrote:Steve Borley has tweeted that the club did NOT agree to Sams legal costs.
Also that the club have got a reduction in the money owed.'

SAMs last bit of bravado if you ask me

Sam lied to us over the ownership and is probably lying about this too.

Annis, I agree we should still keep the pressure on for debt to equity as even though it's good news this is settled, we are still at the mercy of Tan, and at any time he could pull the plug and we would go into a downward spiral of which it could take a generation to recover from.

Time to move on and EVERYBODY get behind the club.


Tim, Ive just rung Sam to have a go at him and he still maintains he is not Langston.


I then just read every news article and not one actually states that he has said he is or nor does the Judge? ? ?

Ive also found out its not in the Court papers or was ever asked in Court.

So he is not Langston here we go again :lol:



:lol:

Wez, Ive just spoken to head of Sport and it was never said in Court or by the Judge or by Sam Hammam.
Steve Tucker has put it out,without one quote or fact or anything to back it up.

Sam still says and states he is not.


But I am really fed up with it all.


Come on City just beat MK DONS :bluebird: :ayatollah: :bluescarf:

He says he's not but does he say who they are tho ? He could clear it easy but chooses to keep the lie up strange the whole thing


That I totally agree with you on :ayatollah:

Re: " THE BIGGEST DEAL DONE, FOR 10 YEARS FOR CARDIFF CITY "

Mon Feb 01, 2016 9:52 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Lawnmower wrote:Steve Borley has tweeted that the club did NOT agree to Sams legal costs.
Also that the club have got a reduction in the money owed.'

SAMs last bit of bravado if you ask me

Sam lied to us over the ownership and is probably lying about this too.

Annis, I agree we should still keep the pressure on for debt to equity as even though it's good news this is settled, we are still at the mercy of Tan, and at any time he could pull the plug and we would go into a downward spiral of which it could take a generation to recover from.

Time to move on and EVERYBODY get behind the club.


Tim, Ive just rung Sam to have a go at him and he still maintains he is not Langston.


I then just read every news article and not one actually states that he has said he is or nor does the Judge? ? ?

Ive also found out its not in the Court papers or was ever asked in Court.

So he is not Langston here we go again :lol:



:lol:

Wez, Ive just spoken to head of Sport and it was never said in Court or by the Judge or by Sam Hammam.
Steve Tucker has put it out,without one quote or fact or anything to back it up.

Sam still says and states he is not.


But I am really fed up with it all.


Come on City just beat MK DONS :bluebird: :ayatollah: :bluescarf:

He says he's not but does he say who they are tho ? He could clear it easy but chooses to keep the lie up strange the whole thing


That I totally agree with you on :ayatollah:

Either club solicitor is lying or Sam http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... y-10821125

Re: " THE BIGGEST DEAL DONE, FOR 10 YEARS FOR CARDIFF CITY "

Mon Feb 01, 2016 10:11 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Lawnmower wrote:Steve Borley has tweeted that the club did NOT agree to Sams legal costs.
Also that the club have got a reduction in the money owed.'

SAMs last bit of bravado if you ask me

Sam lied to us over the ownership and is probably lying about this too.

Annis, I agree we should still keep the pressure on for debt to equity as even though it's good news this is settled, we are still at the mercy of Tan, and at any time he could pull the plug and we would go into a downward spiral of which it could take a generation to recover from.

Time to move on and EVERYBODY get behind the club.


Tim, Ive just rung Sam to have a go at him and he still maintains he is not Langston.
I then just read every news article and not one actually states that he has said he is or nor does the Judge? ? ?

Ive also found out its not in the Court papers or was ever asked in Court.


Annis.
It's up to you if you believe him, ( I don't) but if it's wrong then I'll look forward to him coming out and saying who it really is .

Hard to work out why it's such a secret unless there's something dodgy behind it.

I KNEW this wouldn't be the last of it :laughing6:

Re: " THE BIGGEST DEAL DONE, FOR 10 YEARS FOR CARDIFF CITY "

Mon Feb 01, 2016 10:13 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Lawnmower wrote:Steve Borley has tweeted that the club did NOT agree to Sams legal costs.
Also that the club have got a reduction in the money owed.'

SAMs last bit of bravado if you ask me

Sam lied to us over the ownership and is probably lying about this too.

Annis, I agree we should still keep the pressure on for debt to equity as even though it's good news this is settled, we are still at the mercy of Tan, and at any time he could pull the plug and we would go into a downward spiral of which it could take a generation to recover from.

Time to move on and EVERYBODY get behind the club.


Tim, Ive just rung Sam to have a go at him and he still maintains he is not Langston.


I then just read every news article and not one actually states that he has said he is or nor does the Judge? ? ?

Ive also found out its not in the Court papers or was ever asked in Court.

So he is not Langston here we go again :lol:



:lol:

Wez, Ive just spoken to head of Sport and it was never said in Court or by the Judge or by Sam Hammam.
Steve Tucker has put it out,without one quote or fact or anything to back it up.

Sam still says and states he is not.


But I am really fed up with it all.


Come on City just beat MK DONS :bluebird: :ayatollah: :bluescarf:

He says he's not but does he say who they are tho ? He could clear it easy but chooses to keep the lie up strange the whole thing


That I totally agree with you on :ayatollah:

Either club solicitor is lying or Sam http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... y-10821125


Wez, My head is spinning on this

Re: " THE BIGGEST DEAL DONE, FOR 10 YEARS FOR CARDIFF CITY "

Mon Feb 01, 2016 10:14 pm

Lawnmower wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Lawnmower wrote:Steve Borley has tweeted that the club did NOT agree to Sams legal costs.
Also that the club have got a reduction in the money owed.'

SAMs last bit of bravado if you ask me

Sam lied to us over the ownership and is probably lying about this too.

Annis, I agree we should still keep the pressure on for debt to equity as even though it's good news this is settled, we are still at the mercy of Tan, and at any time he could pull the plug and we would go into a downward spiral of which it could take a generation to recover from.

Time to move on and EVERYBODY get behind the club.


Tim, Ive just rung Sam to have a go at him and he still maintains he is not Langston.
I then just read every news article and not one actually states that he has said he is or nor does the Judge? ? ?

Ive also found out its not in the Court papers or was ever asked in Court.


Annis.
It's up to you if you believe him, ( I don't) but if it's wrong then I'll look forward to him coming out and saying who it really is .

Hard to work out why it's such a secret unless there's something dodgy behind it.

I KNEW this wouldn't be the last of it :laughing6:


Tim, I always believed Sam put Langston together as a group of wealthy business men from Lebbanon incl Ned.

Re: " THE BIGGEST DEAL DONE, FOR 10 YEARS FOR CARDIFF CITY "

Mon Feb 01, 2016 10:14 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Lawnmower wrote:Steve Borley has tweeted that the club did NOT agree to Sams legal costs.
Also that the club have got a reduction in the money owed.'

SAMs last bit of bravado if you ask me

Sam lied to us over the ownership and is probably lying about this too.

Annis, I agree we should still keep the pressure on for debt to equity as even though it's good news this is settled, we are still at the mercy of Tan, and at any time he could pull the plug and we would go into a downward spiral of which it could take a generation to recover from.

Time to move on and EVERYBODY get behind the club.


Tim, Ive just rung Sam to have a go at him and he still maintains he is not Langston.


I then just read every news article and not one actually states that he has said he is or nor does the Judge? ? ?

Ive also found out its not in the Court papers or was ever asked in Court.

So he is not Langston here we go again :lol:



:lol:

Wez, Ive just spoken to head of Sport and it was never said in Court or by the Judge or by Sam Hammam.
Steve Tucker has put it out,without one quote or fact or anything to back it up.

Sam still says and states he is not.


But I am really fed up with it all.


Come on City just beat MK DONS :bluebird: :ayatollah: :bluescarf:

He says he's not but does he say who they are tho ? He could clear it easy but chooses to keep the lie up strange the whole thing


That I totally agree with you on :ayatollah:

Either club solicitor is lying or Sam http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... y-10821125


Wez, My head is spinning on this
I wouldn't trust Sam at all ,he could just say who they are to you if you were his friend but he doesn't

Re: " THE BIGGEST DEAL DONE, FOR 10 YEARS FOR CARDIFF CITY "

Mon Feb 01, 2016 10:23 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Lawnmower wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Lawnmower wrote:Steve Borley has tweeted that the club did NOT agree to Sams legal costs.
Also that the club have got a reduction in the money owed.'

SAMs last bit of bravado if you ask me

Sam lied to us over the ownership and is probably lying about this too.

Annis, I agree we should still keep the pressure on for debt to equity as even though it's good news this is settled, we are still at the mercy of Tan, and at any time he could pull the plug and we would go into a downward spiral of which it could take a generation to recover from.

Time to move on and EVERYBODY get behind the club.


Tim, Ive just rung Sam to have a go at him and he still maintains he is not Langston.
I then just read every news article and not one actually states that he has said he is or nor does the Judge? ? ?

Ive also found out its not in the Court papers or was ever asked in Court.


Annis.
It's up to you if you believe him, ( I don't) but if it's wrong then I'll look forward to him coming out and saying who it really is .

Hard to work out why it's such a secret unless there's something dodgy behind it.

I KNEW this wouldn't be the last of it :laughing6:


Tim, I always believed Sam put Langston together as a group of wealthy business men from Lebbanon incl Ned.


Me too.
His family, with maybe a few business associates.

It'd be like Sam, to say, 'it's not me, because it's a group of people' and then tell the court it was him explaining that in his eyes it's him as he represents them.

He did that a few times with us... Talking in riddles and using different explainations for the same phrase.

Re: " THE BIGGEST DEAL DONE, FOR 10 YEARS FOR CARDIFF CITY "

Mon Feb 01, 2016 11:03 pm

So sam will be sueing then if its all wrong....

Re: " THE BIGGEST DEAL DONE, FOR 10 YEARS FOR CARDIFF CITY "

Mon Feb 01, 2016 11:32 pm

Hi Annis, what are your thoughts on Tan paying Sam Hamman? Are you thankful to Tan?
Did you know that Sam Hamman always was Langston?
What are your thoughts now on the transfers? are you as excited as me, lol??

Re: " THE BIGGEST DEAL DONE, FOR 10 YEARS FOR CARDIFF CITY "

Tue Feb 02, 2016 12:34 am

Forever Blue wrote:
Cwmbran Blue wrote:In a bizarre twist, Sam Hammam contacted close confidant Annis Abraham on 17 December 2007 and dictated an open letter to Echo sports writer Terry Phillips. Hammam said: “I want to stress that I never want the football club back. I want to move on with my life and the decision has been made to leave the United Kingdom for good. I am never coming back. I am drained and I am hurting. I have lost my power. My wings have been taken away from me. All I want now is for everyone to get their money. I say again, I just want to get on with my life and be with my family. I am not Langston and I cannot tell it what to do. Langston got fed up with me long ago. I have no power over it. I never want to hurt Cardiff City and never would. I love the club, I love the fans and hopefully this will be sorted in the New Year. All I want is a future for Cardiff City Football Club, but I won’t be a part of it. I love the club and want the fans to remember me and love me.”

Lifelong Bluebirds fan Abraham commented: “While Sam was on the phone I asked him: ‘Are you Langston? Please be honest if you think anything of me.’ He told me he is not Langston and said he can’t tell Langston what to do. Sam was different to the man I have known in the past. He was quiet and sounded drained. He said he won’t ever try to hurt Cardiff City.”



I will answer this and yes to this day Ive always maintained and Believed he was Langston and have said it a hundred times on here and in my books.

On this I feel he let me down.




Annis, you have stated this on more than one occasion, so nothing new (to those who pay attention) ;) :thumbup:

Re: " THE BIGGEST DEAL DONE, FOR 10 YEARS FOR CARDIFF CITY "

Tue Feb 02, 2016 7:10 am

wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Lawnmower wrote:Steve Borley has tweeted that the club did NOT agree to Sams legal costs.
Also that the club have got a reduction in the money owed.'

SAMs last bit of bravado if you ask me

Sam lied to us over the ownership and is probably lying about this too.

Annis, I agree we should still keep the pressure on for debt to equity as even though it's good news this is settled, we are still at the mercy of Tan, and at any time he could pull the plug and we would go into a downward spiral of which it could take a generation to recover from.

Time to move on and EVERYBODY get behind the club.


Tim, Ive just rung Sam to have a go at him and he still maintains he is not Langston.


I then just read every news article and not one actually states that he has said he is or nor does the Judge? ? ?

Ive also found out its not in the Court papers or was ever asked in Court.

So he is not Langston here we go again :lol:



:lol:

Wez, Ive just spoken to head of Sport and it was never said in Court or by the Judge or by Sam Hammam.
Steve Tucker has put it out,without one quote or fact or anything to back it up.

Sam still says and states he is not.


But I am really fed up with it all.


Come on City just beat MK DONS :bluebird: :ayatollah: :bluescarf:

He says he's not but does he say who they are tho ? He could clear it easy but chooses to keep the lie up strange the whole thing


That I totally agree with you on :ayatollah:

Either club solicitor is lying or Sam http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... y-10821125



Sam



:bluescarf: :bluescarf: