WHY MALKY HAD TO GO

One minute ago, you said I never do it, now you say it's less than 5.. Already changing your mind I see?

You're wrong, simple as that.

Read again Barry I said im sure you'll never agree with an opening post ENTIRELY

Again twisting words to suit your agenda and to also keep this argument going cos you must have the final say on every issue

My reference is to this point or did you forget writing it you say I've changed my opinion by saying that you can count your agreements on one hand

I have no where changed my mind

You are wrong as you are nearly all the time yet you don't like to admit your wrong

Once I have seen you admit you were wrong

I'm done with arguing with you cos like I said before your cat will always be blacker than mine even if yours is grey and 100 people tell you it's grey you'd still argue until you were blue in the face that it was black

My reference is to this point or did you forget writing it you say I've changed my opinion by saying that you can count your agreements on one hand

I have no where changed my mind

You are wrong as you are nearly all the time yet you don't like to admit your wrong

Once I have seen you admit you were wrong

I'm done with arguing with you cos like I said before your cat will always be blacker than mine even if yours is grey and 100 people tell you it's grey you'd still argue until you were blue in the face that it was black

You first said I never did it, then you said I did it less times than you could count on a hand. So, you either changed your mind, or realised that you saying I never agree with anyone totally, is absolute nonsense.

Night.

My reference is to this point or did you forget writing it you say I've changed my opinion by saying that you can count your agreements on one hand

I have no where changed my mind

You are wrong as you are nearly all the time yet you don't like to admit your wrong

Once I have seen you admit you were wrong

I'm done with arguing with you cos like I said before your cat will always be blacker than mine even if yours is grey and 100 people tell you it's grey you'd still argue until you were blue in the face that it was black

You first said I never did it, then you said I did it less times than you could count on a hand. So, you either changed your mind, or realised that you saying I never agree with anyone totally, is absolute nonsense.

Night.

I said for the last time

I am certain you'll never agree with anyone's opening post entirely

That's a direct quote from a prior post

Now doesn't this mean that you will agree but not fully agree with an opinion
This in no way insinuates that you will never agree with an opinion although most on here would agree on the point that you will never agree with anything!

As an opposing fan, id have much more confidence playing a Solskjaer team than a Malky one.

Not that I think Malky was a better manager but they way he set his team up was frustrating and hard work to break down. I personally think you may have stayed up under Malky. Malkys reign didnt really have a good batch of easier home games to pick up your points. Something Solskjaer will enjoy now. However his attacking approach will see you vulnerable at the back.

Time will tell. Although Malkys spending was atrocious, something i noted at the time.

I said for the last time

I am certain you'll never agree with anyone's opening post entirely

That's a direct quote from a prior post

Now doesn't this mean that you will agree but not fully agree with an opinion
This in no way insinuates that you will never agree with an opinion although most on here would agree on the point that you will never agree with anything!

Which you are wrong about.

As an opposing fan, id have much more confidence playing a Solskjaer team than a Malky one.

Not that I think Malky was a better manager but they way he set his team up was frustrating and hard work to break down. I personally think you may have stayed up under Malky. Malkys reign didnt really have a good batch of easier home games to pick up your points. Something Solskjaer will enjoy now. However his attacking approach will see you vulnerable at the back.

Time will tell. Although Malkys spending was atrocious, something i noted at the time.

Fair and credible analysis Roathie.

The facts of the matter are Malky is no longer our manager, it is quite evident from the facts emerging with regard to our transfer dealings during the Summer why this is the case. We will never know if Malky would have kept us up but our goal scoring and defensive record under his management in the Premier League suggest that no team were actually worried about playing against us, particularly after the Fulham game away.
Ole has had to try and impose his playing style on a squad he has inherited against three top sides away from home in the Premier League, he has only had one home game and we dominated against West Ham but fortune did not favour us.
We manged to confine Newcastle to just one goal in the FA cup game and Bolton did not score at all. We have to judge this new and promising manager on the games to come this month. One thing is guaranteed, we will attack teams and the football will be more entertaining and attractive to watch. We may have value for our hard earned money.
I find it very interesting how posters who acclaimed Solskjaer as the great new managerial prospect in Europe and to have followed his career to date and championed him as a worthy successor to their manager, know suggest that Malky would do a better job in our current situation. I wonder whose agenda that is? A tail between the legs analogy springs to mind.
As Cardiff City supporters we must get behind the team and Solskjaer, enjoy the attacking football and hope that it brings the necessary rewards in terms of points and a position higher in the league table.

The facts of the matter are Malky is no longer our manager, it is quite evident from the facts emerging with regard to our transfer dealings during the Summer why this is the case. We will never know if Malky would have kept us up but our goal scoring and defensive record under his management in the Premier League suggest that no team were actually worried about playing against us, particularly after the Fulham game away.
Ole has had to try and impose his playing style on a squad he has inherited against three top sides away from home in the Premier League, he has only had one home game and we dominated against West Ham but fortune did not favour us.
We manged to confine Newcastle to just one goal in the FA cup game and Bolton did not score at all. We have to judge this new and promising manager on the games to come this month. One thing is guaranteed, we will attack teams and the football will be more entertaining and attractive to watch. We may have value for our hard earned money.
I find it very interesting how posters who acclaimed Solskjaer as the great new managerial prospect in Europe and to have followed his career to date and championed him as a worthy successor to their manager, know suggest that Malky would do a better job in our current situation. I wonder whose agenda that is? A tail between the legs analogy springs to mind.
As Cardiff City supporters we must get behind the team and Solskjaer, enjoy the attacking football and hope that it brings the necessary rewards in terms of points and a position higher in the league table.

The facts of the matter are Malky is no longer our manager, it is quite evident from the facts emerging with regard to our transfer dealings during the Summer why this is the case. We will never know if Malky would have kept us up but our goal scoring and defensive record under his management in the Premier League suggest that no team were actually worried about playing against us, particularly after the Fulham game away.
Ole has had to try and impose his playing style on a squad he has inherited against three top sides away from home in the Premier League, he has only had one home game and we dominated against West Ham but fortune did not favour us.
We manged to confine Newcastle to just one goal in the FA cup game and Bolton did not score at all. We have to judge this new and promising manager on the games to come this month. One thing is guaranteed, we will attack teams and the football will be more entertaining and attractive to watch. We may have value for our hard earned money.
I find it very interesting how posters who acclaimed Solskjaer as the great new managerial prospect in Europe and to have followed his career to date and championed him as a worthy successor to their manager, know suggest that Malky would do a better job in our current situation. I wonder whose agenda that is? A tail between the legs analogy springs to mind.
As Cardiff City supporters we must get behind the team and Solskjaer, enjoy the attacking football and hope that it brings the necessary rewards in terms of points and a position higher in the league table.

I will reply and give you the benefit of the doubt you wish to discuss this, the second you start to troll then you get my automated response. Im sure everyone is bored of the nonsense.

Anyway - as my post said, I don't think Malky is a better manager.

Solskjaer now has to face a transitional period in the middle of his season, taking over a side that finds themselves at the bottom of the league before it faces its first realistic winnable game. His style is also suited to a team that finds itself higher up the league. An attacking approach for a newly promoted side is very risky and only time will tell to see if it pays off.

However if Malky had the backing of his Cardiff peers I think his stubborn defensive approach would have seen you safe.

The facts of the matter are Malky is no longer our manager, it is quite evident from the facts emerging with regard to our transfer dealings during the Summer why this is the case. We will never know if Malky would have kept us up but our goal scoring and defensive record under his management in the Premier League suggest that no team were actually worried about playing against us, particularly after the Fulham game away.
Ole has had to try and impose his playing style on a squad he has inherited against three top sides away from home in the Premier League, he has only had one home game and we dominated against West Ham but fortune did not favour us.
We manged to confine Newcastle to just one goal in the FA cup game and Bolton did not score at all. We have to judge this new and promising manager on the games to come this month. One thing is guaranteed, we will attack teams and the football will be more entertaining and attractive to watch. We may have value for our hard earned money.
I find it very interesting how posters who acclaimed Solskjaer as the great new managerial prospect in Europe and to have followed his career to date and championed him as a worthy successor to their manager, know suggest that Malky would do a better job in our current situation. I wonder whose agenda that is? A tail between the legs analogy springs to mind.
As Cardiff City supporters we must get behind the team and Solskjaer, enjoy the attacking football and hope that it brings the necessary rewards in terms of points and a position higher in the league table.

I will reply and give you the benefit of the doubt you wish to discuss this, the second you start to troll then you get my automated response. Im sure everyone is bored of the nonsense.

Anyway - as my post said, I don't think Malky is a better manager.

Solskjaer now has to face a transitional period in the middle of his season, taking over a side that finds themselves at the bottom of the league before it faces its first realistic winnable game. His style is also suited to a team that finds itself higher up the league. An attacking approach for a newly promoted side is very risky and only time will tell to see if it pays off.

However if Malky had the backing of his Cardiff peers I think his stubborn defensive approach would have seen you safe.

You will reply because you lack the discipline and self control not to

You will reply because you lack the discipline and self control not to

This thread is about why Malky had to go. Keep it on topic please, if you wish to discuss me then create a separate thread.

You will reply because you lack the discipline and self control not to

This thread is about why Malky had to go. Keep it on topic please, if you wish to discuss me then create a separate thread.

You're about to short circiut

You're about to short circiut

Cool. Create a thread about that one then, sounds like fun.

This one is about Malky

Ok roathie, As ever i'll give you the benefit of doubt but you've a lot of hard work convincing others you are now ready for a grown up football discussion. To be honest, repeating a stockline like Robo cop isn't the best start to your rehabilitation. Try to be a bit less bossy,you're not yet rated enough to be giving orders

Ok roathie, As ever i'll give you the benefit of doubt but you've a lot of hard work convincing others you are now ready for a grown up football discussion. To be honest, repeating a stockline like Robo cop isn't the best start to your rehabilitation. Try to be a bit less bossy,you're not yet rated enough to be giving orders

Always been the same, no different this time other than I cant be bothered to get involved with the trolls.

Keep this one on topic please

As an opposing fan, id have much more confidence playing a Solskjaer team than a Malky one.

Not that I think Malky was a better manager but they way he set his team up was frustrating and hard work to break down. I personally think you may have stayed up under Malky. Malkys reign didnt really have a good batch of easier home games to pick up your points. Something Solskjaer will enjoy now. However his attacking approach will see you vulnerable at the back.

Time will tell. Although Malkys spending was atrocious, something i noted at the time.

I dont get why people say this. We werent hard to break down at all. 2 of our 1-0 wins at home were against a poor (on the day at least) swansea who barely showed up, and a possibly even worse west brom side.

We leaked goals left right and centre and if it wasn't for marshall we would have leaked a lot more. Did you see the Norwich game? Or spurs? Both games embarrassingly one sided although obviously a bit morw acceptable in rhe case of spurs

Malky's defensive approach was clearly not working and the dire football was alienating fans. Crystal Palace away and West Brom at home two examples. The game at home to Sunderland showed what attacking, vibrant football could achieve, until it was spoilt by the interim management team reverting to a cautious ultra-defensive approach.
I like what I have seen of Solskjaer's tactics, they are based around fast tempo passing and rapid transition from defence to attack, he has encouraged players to express themselves. This judgement is based on first hand knowledge not listening to newspaper reports or reading analysis on here.
I firmly believe that Cardiff City can beat both Norwich and Swansea Town in the next two games. If I am proved incorrect then so be it. However, it is a positive statement, these wins can boost the confidence if the team and individual players and givAmericae us fans a real lift. It is so easy to be right after making negative comments, this player will prove to an unwise purchase etc. The I told you so brigade are obnoxious.

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As an opposing fan, id have much more confidence playing a Solskjaer team than a Malky one.

Not that I think Malky was a better manager but they way he set his team up was frustrating and hard work to break down. I personally think you may have stayed up under Malky. Malkys reign didnt really have a good batch of easier home games to pick up your points. Something Solskjaer will enjoy now. However his attacking approach will see you vulnerable at the back.

Time will tell. Although Malkys spending was atrocious, something i noted at the time.

I dont get why people say this. We werent hard to break down at all. 2 of our 1-0 wins at home were against a poor (on the day at least) swansea who barely showed up, and a possibly even worse west brom side.

We leaked goals left right and centre and if it wasn't for marshall we would have leaked a lot more. Did you see the Norwich game? Or spurs? Both games embarrassingly one sided although obviously a bit morw acceptable in rhe case of spurs

I didnt see the Spurs game but I saw the Norwich one.

Norwich didnt manage to break you down (0-0) and Spurs needed stoppage time to. You were very frustrating to play against. Annis called it right when he labelled them "malkys trojans" and thats exactly what it felt like. They were all closing down, defending as a unit (all be it a 10 man one) and sometimes it felt like no matter how long the game went on you wouldn't concede no matter how many shots you were subject to. Ask the Norwich fans about that game and im sure they had that exact feeling.

Malky had all sorts of nonsense going on behind the scenes by all accounts. He recruited terribly and wasted a lot of money with not much logic behind the signings and distribution on funds but I felt he was doing just enough... Although dire to watch.

I think OGS has been left too much to do now as he has a differing style and has to recruit a new side halfway throuhg the season with all the pressure of being bottom.

Malky as a person stubborn and defensive? Yes.

Malkys defence stubborn? No. Thats a myth. Stubborn in a few isolated games maybe, but in general not stubborn at all. Conceded 2+ in over half the games.

All backed up by the statistics set out in the OP and which if you take any set of 6 games (a usual marker for "form") shows it got progressively worse as the season wore on and teams sussed out we werent going to attack them so they could throw more players forward and take more risks against us.

I dont know why people think we would have beaten all the so called lesser teams at homes under Malky, especially when we couldnt even muster up a chance against them in the away game.

Because we're doing so much better without him?

Just covering your position. If we lose at home to Norwich on Saturday it is looking very grim and I think we would have at least 5 more points with Malky in charge (we'd have beaten sunderland and west ham and done a lot better against southampton without the off field fuss).

Also, Gestede = a non league player? What rubbish that is. His Blackburn form is beginning to make me wish we'd kept him, particularly if Kenwyne Jones doesn't work out.

Because we're doing so much better without him?

Just covering your position. If we lose at home to Norwich on Saturday it is looking very grim and I think we would have at least 5 more points with Malky in charge (we'd have beaten sunderland and west ham and done a lot better against southampton without the off field fuss).

Also, Gestede = a non league player? What rubbish that is. His Blackburn form is beginning to make me wish we'd kept him, particularly if Kenwyne Jones doesn't work out.

Is this post a wind up?

what justifcation do you have that we would have beaten Sunderland?

It is not coincidence that Cardiff struggled for a period last season until Mutch and Kim were
in place of Whittingham. he no longer offers the killer dead ball that no other can do. Mutch,
Kim, Noone, Eikram, Daehli all can strike the ball well and find teammates. cardiff plan is to
now play a fast attacking mobile brand. Whittinghams instinct is to turn back or sideways to
pass the ball. His day is numbered

Because we're doing so much better without him?

In the 5 games since hes gone we have had to go away to Arsenal, Man U and Man City. Given our away performances at the likes of Palace, Villa and West Ham, not to mention other strong sides at home such as Liverpool and Chelsea, do you really think we would have got anything? I think not.

Just covering your position. If we lose at home to Norwich on Saturday it is looking very grim and I think we would have at least 5 more points with Malky in charge (we'd have beaten sunderland and west ham and done a lot better against southampton without the off field fuss).

On what basis do you work that one out?

Southampton played us off the park as most teams have this season.

Sunderland it was still Malkys set-up, as it was onlhy a day after he was sacked. Kerslake released the shackles somewhat and we raced into a 2 nil lead but then went into "Malky mode" sitting on the edge of our box, inviting pressure on and were pegged back.

West Ham, we absolutely battered them 2nd half and couldnt score, created far more corners and chances than we ever did under Malky and couldnt take one of them.
Also, Gestede = a non league player? What rubbish that is. His Blackburn form is beginning to make me wish we'd kept him, particularly if Kenwyne Jones doesn't work out.

It is not coincidence that Cardiff struggled for a period last season until Mutch and Kim were
in place of Whittingham. he no longer offers the killer dead ball that no other can do. Mutch,
Kim, Noone, Eikram, Daehli all can strike the ball well and find teammates. cardiff plan is to
now play a fast attacking mobile brand. Whittinghams instinct is to turn back or sideways to
pass the ball. His day is numbered

We won far more games with Whittingham in the team last season than we did when he was dropped towards the end of the season.

In fact we only won 3 of our last 13 games.

Pre-Xmas we won 10 out of 11 at home, with Whitts probably our most influential player in that period.

Signings IMO:

Caulker - 10/10

Cornelius - 0/10

Brayford - 0/10 But if we go down he could feature alot more and he was cheap. Easily recoup our money as he is a known talent.

Medal - 8/10 Tailed off recently but was a one man defensive machine for the majority of games we have played. If it wasn't for him we basically wouldn't have had a midfield at times.

Theophile - 9/10 Cheap, class, will less on for way more

Simon Moore - Can't comment as he is a young keeper and was never going to feature

Odemwingie - 3/10 But now we have Kenwyne, so everythings worked out well

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More positives than negatives IMO. But Cornelius was a shambles of a situation and it will overshadow everyone.

KTC 9/10

The guy has cost us so many goals / points, he cannot defend to save his life.

why is caulker a 10/10? hes hardly been perfect and we have one of the worst defenses in the league!


ktc is more of a 5 out of 10. not a very good player, but didnt cost us much so not a disaster

Caulker - 7/10. Good defender, not great with the ball at his feet, probably paid a little over the odds for him. Needs a better player alongside him to get more out of him I feel.
KTC - 4/10. Ok going forward. Cant defend to save his life. Cost us a number of goals and points.
Medel - 6/10. Started well but now looks unfit and its looking like we paid over the odds for him.
Brayford - 0/10. Answers on a postcard
Cornelius - Minus 10 million out of 10. The worst deal now, and ever likely to be, in the history of the club.
Odemwingie - 1/10. The 1 is for his 1 decent league performance against Newcastle. looked un interested the rest of the time.

We will know the answer to this come May.

Totally agree that some of his signing were piss poor and style of football was not great .

However Malky still managed to get us 17 points from 18 games.

OGS has a similar amount of games, arguably easier fixtures than those Malky had in achieving the 17 points and with a stronger squad, so let's wait and see.