Owners tells fans " if I dont get name change, I walk away "

I watched him on Sky last night, you think Tan is a dictator, this guy is NUTS.

Full on threat of dont care if you dont like it but lump it or I am off.

Said if Hull fans want him out he will go within 24 hours.

Seeing as they ar 10th, just in the process of signing Jelavic and Long, its a masterstroke by him to issue the threat now.

He also said if the FA wont let him change the name he will walk so not only threatening the fans but threatening the FA

Trouble is he's been in Hull 50yrs and most individual fans spoken to are backing him, even bruce does! but not fans organisations ! Other thing is tiger is associated with Hull along with rugby club.

I watched him on Sky last night, you think Tan is a dictator, this guy is NUTS.

Full on threat of dont care if you dont like it but lump it or I am off.

Said if Hull fans want him out he will go within 24 hours.

Seeing as they ar 10th, just in the process of signing Jelavic and Long, its a masterstroke by him to issue the threat now.

He also said if the FA wont let him change the name he will walk so not only threatening the fans but threatening the FA

Polo, the FA are as bad as these owners mate. They've stood by and tried to milk it for all its worth since the inception of the Premier League. They're a registered company like any other and they want to make profit. Its a disgrace and I don't agree with it, football should be a community sport uniting those in the local area - you could even say it would be better served to become part of the public sector with fixed rate salaries as teachers do on a scale etc. - but thats the way football is - supply and demand and money orientated.

I don't need to tell you anyway or go into the ins and outs of it as you're a smart bloke.

This guy is a loon, however if he changes it to Hull Tigers its still the name they have always been associated with, however when we are changed to Cardiff Dragons this will be a name we have never been associated with, at least Cardiff Bluebirds would still be the name we have always been known as, but I fear is this nutty Hull owner gets this mad idea through, then we will defiantly be next and we wont be Bluebirds but we will be DRAGONS

As long as we stay in the Cardiff area, and represent the city of my birth, I will support the club no matter what we are called and no matter what colours we play in. And I've been coming to games since 1967.

By that logic you could watch any team in the Cardiff area and it would be fine by you. I'd argue that if the name Cardiff isn't in the club title it wouldn't represent the city of Cardiff in the slightest.

As long as we stay in the Cardiff area, and represent the city of my birth, I will support the club no matter what we are called and no matter what colours we play in. And I've been coming to games since 1967.

By that logic you could watch any team in the Cardiff area and it would be fine by you. I'd argue that if the name Cardiff isn't in the club title it wouldn't represent the city of Cardiff in the slightest.

So if we are re names Dragon slayers united then bluebird 58 would still be happy to support them amazing !!!

I watched him on Sky last night, you think Tan is a dictator, this guy is NUTS.

Full on threat of dont care if you dont like it but lump it or I am off.

Said if Hull fans want him out he will go within 24 hours.

Seeing as they ar 10th, just in the process of signing Jelavic and Long, its a masterstroke by him to issue the threat now.

He also said if the FA wont let him change the name he will walk so not only threatening the fans but threatening the FA

Polo, the FA are as bad as these owners mate. They've stood by and tried to milk it for all its worth since the inception of the Premier League. They're a registered company like any other and they want to make profit. Its a disgrace and I don't agree with it, football should be a community sport uniting those in the local area - you could even say it would be better served to become part of the public sector with fixed rate salaries as teachers do on a scale etc. - but thats the way football is - supply and demand and money orientated.

I don't need to tell you anyway or go into the ins and outs of it as you're a smart bloke.

I would like to thank JB39 for his insight into the rebrand....I had heard in reports that Tan's ambition was to float the company onto the Singapore Stock Exchange. He needs the club in the EPL and branded the club to reach maximum potential (value) when the company is indeed floated.

I don't understand the abuse at all. It is horrendous that this is more likely to be our Owner's intention but some fans prefer to bury their head in the sand!

soulofthesea also made a great comment that Tan should of considered the marketability of the BLUEBIRDS as a brand in its own right but I doubt this was even explored as an opinion. Tan is a despot leader, doesn't give a fig about the fans or the club.

I watched him on Sky last night, you think Tan is a dictator, this guy is NUTS.

Full on threat of dont care if you dont like it but lump it or I am off.

Said if Hull fans want him out he will go within 24 hours.

Seeing as they ar 10th, just in the process of signing Jelavic and Long, its a masterstroke by him to issue the threat now.

He also said if the FA wont let him change the name he will walk so not only threatening the fans but threatening the FA

Polo, the FA are as bad as these owners mate. They've stood by and tried to milk it for all its worth since the inception of the Premier League. They're a registered company like any other and they want to make profit. Its a disgrace and I don't agree with it, football should be a community sport uniting those in the local area - you could even say it would be better served to become part of the public sector with fixed rate salaries as teachers do on a scale etc. - but thats the way football is - supply and demand and money orientated.

I don't need to tell you anyway or go into the ins and outs of it as you're a smart bloke.

I would like to thank JB39 for his insight into the rebrand....I had heard in reports that Tan's ambition was to float the company onto the Singapore Stock Exchange. He needs the club in the EPL and branded the club to reach maximum potential (value) when the company is indeed floated.

I don't understand the abuse at all. It is horrendous that this is more likely to be our Owner's intention but some fans prefer to bury their head in the sand!

soulofthesea also made a great comment that Tan should of considered the marketability of the BLUEBIRDS as a brand in its own right but I doubt this was even explored as an option*. Tan is a despot leader, doesn't give a fig about the fans or the club.

I watched him on Sky last night, you think Tan is a dictator, this guy is NUTS.

Full on threat of dont care if you dont like it but lump it or I am off.

Said if Hull fans want him out he will go within 24 hours.

Seeing as they ar 10th, just in the process of signing Jelavic and Long, its a masterstroke by him to issue the threat now.

He also said if the FA wont let him change the name he will walk so not only threatening the fans but threatening the FA

Polo, the FA are as bad as these owners mate. They've stood by and tried to milk it for all its worth since the inception of the Premier League. They're a registered company like any other and they want to make profit. Its a disgrace and I don't agree with it, football should be a community sport uniting those in the local area - you could even say it would be better served to become part of the public sector with fixed rate salaries as teachers do on a scale etc. - but thats the way football is - supply and demand and money orientated.

I don't need to tell you anyway or go into the ins and outs of it as you're a smart bloke.

The monster has been created now Barney its too big to ever go back to what it was. That Richard Scudamore at the PL makes my skin crawl.

As you say its big business. Some players are paid more in a month than most people will earn in an entire lifetime.

Crazy

I watched him on Sky last night, you think Tan is a dictator, this guy is NUTS.

Full on threat of dont care if you dont like it but lump it or I am off.

Said if Hull fans want him out he will go within 24 hours.

Seeing as they ar 10th, just in the process of signing Jelavic and Long, its a masterstroke by him to issue the threat now.

He also said if the FA wont let him change the name he will walk so not only threatening the fans but threatening the FA

Polo, the FA are as bad as these owners mate. They've stood by and tried to milk it for all its worth since the inception of the Premier League. They're a registered company like any other and they want to make profit. Its a disgrace and I don't agree with it, football should be a community sport uniting those in the local area - you could even say it would be better served to become part of the public sector with fixed rate salaries as teachers do on a scale etc. - but thats the way football is - supply and demand and money orientated.

I don't need to tell you anyway or go into the ins and outs of it as you're a smart bloke.

The monster has been created now Barney its too big to ever go back to what it was. That Richard Scudamore at the PL makes my skin crawl.

As you say its big business. Some players are paid more in a month than most people will earn in an entire lifetime.

Crazy

I'm sure I read a few months ago that he said that the Premier League lean on the refs to make sure they let the big clubs have the big decisions because if Man Utd do badly it harms the brand but no ne cares if Norwich had a bad season.

Not read all the posts
but if the owner had changed the name back in the beginning when he saved them from liquidation then I would have been more understanding
a club to surpport called hull tigers or no club atall would have been the question back then I would have said yes
but now they are in the prem doing ok now he flexs his muscle and is even trying to bully the F A
just hope the F A do the right thing and say NO

the fa should fight the fans corner especially after being threatened.They'll should tell him let the fans vote on the name change or you can't do it.

I would like to thank JB39 for his insight into the rebrand....I had heard in reports that Tan's ambition was to float the company onto the Singapore Stock Exchange. He needs the club in the EPL and branded the club to reach maximum potential (value) when the company is indeed floated.

No worries pal. I just try and see things from different angles to gain a wider perspective on the given subject. Its easy to go all siege mentality on something but that doesn't help anybody really.

I don't understand the abuse at all. It is horrendous that this is more likely to be our Owner's intention but some fans prefer to bury their head in the sand!

Thats our fan base and has been for years. By the time they wake up, its too late. Its always been that way with our fans.

soulofthesea also made a great comment that Tan should of considered the marketability of the BLUEBIRDS as a brand in its own right but I doubt this was even explored as an opinion. Tan is a despot leader, doesn't give a fig about the fans or the club.

The reason I believe the bluebird wasn't used as a brand is below.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandarin_C ... anity#Bird

'The Chinese word for bird "niǎo"(鸟) was pronounced as "diǎo" in ancient times, which rhymes with (屌) meaning penis or sexual organ.[8] It also sounds the same as "penis" in several Chinese dialects. Thus, bird is often associated with 'f**k', 'penis' or 'nonsense'

You cant really market something so offensive as a brand. Its not appealing to true business professionals and as Tan is Chinese in culture then it makes sense. China is one of the biggest markets in Asia due to its population. Its also an area Tan has expertise in having business interests there.

Bluebirds in Chinese is Lán zhī gēng niǎo.

As you can, niao, can be pronounced offensively depending on the dialect. Its a marketing own goal.

It could be read as bluefuck or bluepenis or bluenonsense, none of which are any good for us in terms of marketing and branding. They're disasters even.

No serious investor is going to come on board if our name comes across in that manner. The dragon is different. Its powerful, it has great symbolism in Asia and is not a marketing own goal.

It portrays a better image and has no risks attached to it. Yes it alienates us but Tan is not floating the club in the UK or Europe, hes floating it in Asia, he needs to be aware the club is suited and professionally branded to appeal to an Asian market.

For all we know, the investor may get on board with us with a dragon in red, see the traditional fans in blue and tell Tan, if you want me to continue to invest then you need to improve customer relations here first otherwise im pulling out. I think then Tan would listen because he'd be getting told from someone with a bargaining chip and more money on the table and not a bunch of tribal fans getting all emotional.

Fans just need to be patient to see how it all unfolds. It's all we can do now. Tan's gone far enough now and he will go ahead with floating the club.

I would like to thank JB39 for his insight into the rebrand....I had heard in reports that Tan's ambition was to float the company onto the Singapore Stock Exchange. He needs the club in the EPL and branded the club to reach maximum potential (value) when the company is indeed floated.

No worries pal. I just try and see things from different angles to gain a wider perspective on the given subject. Its easy to go all siege mentality on something but that doesn't help anybody really.

I don't understand the abuse at all. It is horrendous that this is more likely to be our Owner's intention but some fans prefer to bury their head in the sand!

Thats our fan base and has been for years. By the time they wake up, its too late. Its always been that way with our fans.

soulofthesea also made a great comment that Tan should of considered the marketability of the BLUEBIRDS as a brand in its own right but I doubt this was even explored as an opinion. Tan is a despot leader, doesn't give a fig about the fans or the club.

The reason I believe the bluebird wasn't used as a brand is below.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandarin_C ... anity#Bird

'The Chinese word for bird "niǎo"(鸟) was pronounced as "diǎo" in ancient times, which rhymes with (屌) meaning penis or sexual organ.[8] It also sounds the same as "penis" in several Chinese dialects. Thus, bird is often associated with 'f**k', 'penis' or 'nonsense'

You cant really market something so offensive as a brand. Its not appealing to true business professionals and as Tan is Chinese in culture then it makes sense. China is one of the biggest markets in Asia due to its population. Its also an area Tan has expertise in having business interests there.

Bluebirds in Chinese is Lán zhī gēng niǎo.

As you can, niao, can be pronounced offensively depending on the dialect. Its a marketing own goal.

It could be read as bluefuck or bluepenis or bluenonsense, none of which are any good for us in terms of marketing and branding. They're disasters even.

No serious investor is going to come on board if our name comes across in that manner. The dragon is different. Its powerful, it has great symbolism in Asia and is not a marketing own goal.

It portrays a better image and has no risks attached to it. Yes it alienates us but Tan is not floating the club in the UK or Europe, hes floating it in Asia, he needs to be aware the club is suited and professionally branded to appeal to an Asian market.

For all we know, the investor may get on board with us with a dragon in red, see the traditional fans in blue and tell Tan, if you want me to continue to invest then you need to improve customer relations here first otherwise im pulling out. I think then Tan would listen because he'd be getting told from someone with a bargaining chip and more money on the table and not a bunch of tribal fans getting all emotional.

Fans just need to be patient to see how it all unfolds. It's all we can do now. Tan's gone far enough now and he will go ahead with floating the club.

well researched mate your making alot of sense and a very interesting insight into what the hell is going on.

Cardiff Dragons must be the ultimate aim for brand familiarity purposes.

I hope all the turn-coats and the snipers at the fans who spoke out are happy now as its only going to become worse, my opinion is that when we are a mid-table EPL team he will go for the jugular and change our name.

As far as I am concerned if Tan went now, there def would be a buyer around the corner(depending on the price for our club), because thanks to the Mad man were a big name now around the world.