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Re: " Judge Ole after 12 games, but I have to admit "

Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:28 pm

How can Tan be critiscised for Malky wasting the huge budget he was given :lol:

Re: " Judge Ole after 12 games, but I have to admit "

Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:30 pm

Mario Polotelli wrote:How can Tan be critiscised for Malky wasting the huge budget he was given :lol:


Not for the £30 mill, but the rest, agents fees etc, Lim signed it all of and made the contracts,on Tans behalf, a fact.

Re: " Judge Ole after 12 games, but I have to admit "

Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:33 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:How can Tan be critiscised for Malky wasting the huge budget he was given :lol:


Not for the £30 mill, but the rest, agents fees etc, Lim signed it all of and made the contracts,on Tans behalf, a fact.

Moody deserved the sack for scouting Cornelius

Re: " Judge Ole after 12 games, but I have to admit "

Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:36 pm

Mario Polotelli wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:How can Tan be critiscised for Malky wasting the huge budget he was given :lol:


Not for the £30 mill, but the rest, agents fees etc, Lim signed it all of and made the contracts,on Tans behalf, a fact.

Moody deserved the sack for scouting Cornelius


Chris
On that one I would deserve the sack :lol:
I said the day we signed him what the Jack manager thought of him and a high up person in Denmark(who has a place in Santa Ponsa) said.

Re: " Judge Ole after 12 games, but I have to admit "

Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:46 pm

He is bad Annis. Who the hell decided to pay him 45k a week???

Re: " Judge Ole after 12 games, but I have to admit "

Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:54 pm

Mario Polotelli wrote:He is bad Annis. Who the hell decided to pay him 45k a week???


I was stunned/gobsmacked when I read his wages Chris.

Malky/Moody to blame for getting him and signing him, Tan/Lim for paying those wages. :o :shock:

Re: " Judge Ole after 12 games, but I have to admit "

Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:57 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:He is bad Annis. Who the hell decided to pay him 45k a week???


I was stunned/gobsmacked when I read his wages Chris.

Malky/Moody to blame for getting him and signing him, Tan/Lim for paying those wages. :o :shock:

You cant palm his wages off on Tan ffs :lol:

Moody negotiated with the agents and agreed the contracts the Daily Mail reports and theyve been spot on this year.

Re: " Judge Ole after 12 games, but I have to admit "

Sun Jan 12, 2014 12:02 am

Mario Polotelli wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:He is bad Annis. Who the hell decided to pay him 45k a week???


I was stunned/gobsmacked when I read his wages Chris.

Malky/Moody to blame for getting him and signing him, Tan/Lim for paying those wages. :o :shock:

You cant palm his wages off on Tan ffs :lol:

Moody negotiated with the agents and agreed the contracts the Daily Mail reports and theyve been spot on this year.



They have been spot on true.

As the owner u decide how much your going to pay, Tans right hand man Lim,wrote the contracts up and negoatiated the wages/terms etc

I say sack the lot, hang on only two left to sack Tan & Lim :lol:

Re: " Judge Ole after 12 games, but I have to admit "

Sun Jan 12, 2014 12:11 am

Dalmans good dont sack him. Spoke well on the radio earlier.

The way I see it Tan gave M + M a budget to work to, went with their expertise, and got let down badly.

Re: " Judge Ole after 12 games, but I have to admit "

Sun Jan 12, 2014 12:15 am

Arsenal board allowed Almunia to be on 60k plus, Arshavin etc as well, just shows they trusted Wenger, Cardiff board allowed Malky and Malky proved he isn't wise with transfers

Re: " Judge Ole after 12 games, but I have to admit "

Sun Jan 12, 2014 12:19 am

All this protecting Malky bollocks is just childish. They were all his signings, some good, some bad, shit happens. The fact is that I have seen nothing thus season that tells me that Malkys team would have got the result today and even if we did, it would have been another scraped, scrappy pile of dirge :lol: With the amount of players that are being linked this early on, it will soon be a very different looking team, so let's all see where we are at the end of Feb and what kind of football is being played :thumbup:

Re: " Judge Ole after 12 games, but I have to admit "

Sun Jan 12, 2014 12:56 am

Aramore wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Blue Legend wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Blue Legend wrote:Unfortunately we are now left with the under achieving players that Malky brought to the club. If he had been sacked the same time as Moody for wasting Tans money then we would have been in a stronger position now. If OGS keeps us up it will be a miracle.


Tan should of either Sacked Malky last September or left him get on with his job and backed off.
Personally I would of left Malky had the whole season and left him get on with it, Malky deserved that at the very least.
Tan/Lim are responsible for the spending no one else.
Same as when Sam,Riddler etc were in control.

What a load of nonsense Annis.

Tan and lim didnt scout the crap we have signed.

Evry signing has either been a flop or we have paid well over the odds.


Exactly.....Its easy to blame Tan for everything that goes wrong at the club but he didn't scout the players bought in by Moody and Malky and lets be honest most of them are nowhere near good enough at this level.


I still believe none of u are giving Malky any respect or thanks for his achievements and just blaming Malky and in my opinion blaming him for what? yes a couple of bad signings,but how many good ones? whats their value? What did Malky achieve in just over 2yrs?


I could have got us promoted with a 15 million transfer budget! Anyone could!


Sven goran Erikkson couldn't lol

Re: " Judge Ole after 12 games, but I have to admit "

Sun Jan 12, 2014 1:02 am

Forever Blue wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:He is bad Annis. Who the hell decided to pay him 45k a week???


I was stunned/gobsmacked when I read his wages Chris.

Malky/Moody to blame for getting him and signing him, Tan/Lim for paying those wages. :o :shock:

You cant palm his wages off on Tan ffs :lol:

Moody negotiated with the agents and agreed the contracts the Daily Mail reports and theyve been spot on this year.



They have been spot on true.

As the owner u decide how much your going to pay, Tans right hand man Lim,wrote the contracts up and negoatiated the wages/terms etc

I say sack the lot, hang on only two left to sack Tan & Lim :lol:


That's a little naive annis the agent and moody do most of the negotiations the chairman just signs them off, in fairness these men are not football men and went on a scout and managers say so and they were wrong

If you had a director of football advising the chairman then you would be far less likely to see vast wages and signing in fees for players as you'd have a more expert opinion to advise the board

Re: " Judge Ole after 12 games, but I have to admit "

Sun Jan 12, 2014 1:40 am

kodak wrote:It's times like this when you see the real Cardiff city fans. It's easy supporting a winning side, not so easy when your in the shite. It's been a long time since we have been in a relegation battle,I hope our new fans have got the bottle for it.


its not new fans pressing the panic button....

Re: " Judge Ole after 12 games, but I have to admit "

Sun Jan 12, 2014 7:55 am

Wtf??? I've never seen such a 1 sided game in my life. We totally dominated and created probably more chances than the whole if December put together!

All we needed was a bit if luck. I actually felt more optimistic than leaving the Sunderland game because we looked very very good just didnt score.

I did agree atmosphere was shit tho

Re: " Judge Ole after 12 games, but I have to admit "

Sun Jan 12, 2014 8:32 am

Mario Polotelli wrote:Would have won under Malky today? :lol:

How? We had umpteen corners and didnt convert thats the only way Malky knew.

We played as well 2nd half as we have all season at home we just didnt get the break.



We were well on top today second half, we created more opportunities than we have in ages. We were very unlucky, what we are missing is a striker. If we had spent the Brayford and Cornelious on a decent striker we would comfortably be mid table.

February will decide our season, we should have enough to pull away :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: " Judge Ole after 12 games, but I have to admit "

Sun Jan 12, 2014 8:37 am

Annis, Ole has changed the team a lot in only one week. The first few games the players are bound to make some mistakes as they try to adapt from one style of play to another. It won't be instinctive yet they will be a bit slower amd thinking about what they have been taught....

Re: " Judge Ole after 12 games, but I have to admit "

Sun Jan 12, 2014 8:51 am

I will never forget finally getting promoted and we have to thank malky for that. However when i look at the money spent and see the subs available its crazy.

Re: " Judge Ole after 12 games, but I have to admit "

Sun Jan 12, 2014 9:55 am

Bluebina wrote:Annis, Ole has changed the team a lot in only one week. The first few games the players are bound to make some mistakes as they try to adapt from one style of play to another. It won't be instinctive yet they will be a bit slower amd thinking about what they have been taught....


Thats why Ive strongly said dont judge Ole till after 12 games :thumbup:

Re: " Judge Ole after 12 games, but I have to admit "

Sun Jan 12, 2014 9:59 am

Lets be honest while Malky was here we were living off scraps i.e 30% or so possession in a game and were lucky in the games we won. Yesterday we had 60%+ possession, the goals and points will come. Why so much negativity? :ayatollah:

Re: " Judge Ole after 12 games, but I have to admit "

Sun Jan 12, 2014 10:01 am

ihatealiens wrote:Lets be honest while Malky was here we were living off scraps i.e 30% or so possession in a game and were lucky in the games we won. Yesterday we had 60%+ possession, the goals and points will come. Why so much negativity? :ayatollah:


A defeat against a very very poor West Ham team at home, I prob should not of posted until today, as last night I was fuming/upset etc.

Re: " Judge Ole after 12 games, but I have to admit "

Sun Jan 12, 2014 10:13 am

Forever Blue wrote:
ihatealiens wrote:Lets be honest while Malky was here we were living off scraps i.e 30% or so possession in a game and were lucky in the games we won. Yesterday we had 60%+ possession, the goals and points will come. Why so much negativity? :ayatollah:


A defeat against a very very poor West Ham team at home, I prob should not of posted until today, as last night I was fuming/upset etc.

The fact that Ole is looking to get so many players in tells the story really. All we can do is hope Ole will have enough time to rescue us - 18 games left to work some magic. We need goals more than anything, I would like to see a prolific goal scorer in alongside Campbell A Finnbogason maybe but don't think the budget is there for him, will probably be this Diouf guy. At least it looks like Ole is getting players in that have worked with him before who know the way he wants to play, I see that as a positive :ayatollah:

Re: " Judge Ole after 12 games, but I have to admit "

Sun Jan 12, 2014 10:22 am

Forever Blue wrote:
Bluebina wrote:Annis, Ole has changed the team a lot in only one week. The first few games the players are bound to make some mistakes as they try to adapt from one style of play to another. It won't be instinctive yet they will be a bit slower amd thinking about what they have been taught....


Thats why Ive strongly said dont judge Ole till after 12 games :thumbup:


Do you think if we get relegated, all our new signings like matts, eikrem and whoever else signs that are potentially class, will stick around and get us back up, or will Ole take them with him and we'll have to start off again with championship players?

Re: " Judge Ole after 12 games, but I have to admit "

Sun Jan 12, 2014 10:58 am

New Bluebirds fan from Norway here :wave:

I watched yesterdays game on internet,and I think you and the players deserved better.I think you dominated most of the game,but lacked that extra sharpness in front of both goals. I felt down after the game since I really was hoping for 3 points in an important game like that.
But stay positive and be certain that Ole is in my opinion a brilliant motivator for the players that are willing to give the club,fans and their coach 100% .That is what Ole looks for in players,those who want to work hard and improve each day in training,and who wants to go on the pitch on matchday and make a great performance for the fans and club.As he said himself in an interview,he doesn't ask for more than 100% effort,but he also asks for no less!! So if you have deadmeat and guys only look for raising a big paycheck in your squad they probably will dissapear quite soon if Ole gets to decide.

Please don't talk shit about some of the players.Instead try to back them up.I think many of them might surprise you in the games to come under Ole's guidance.
I see Cornelius gets a lot of heat,and I must be honest to say I did not know anything about him until yesterday :lol: I have heard his name mentioned concerning FC Copenhagen,but never got any impression of him as a player.Watching a couple of youtube videos I am a little surprised that he was bought for as much as £8.5m ,but he also have some potential mainly as a target man.What the talents in your Club now have in Ole is in my opinion one of the most intelligent strikers I know of to teach them some good stuff.If Cornelius is willing to work hard,be prepared to see him growing as a striker and footballer in the time to come.

So far I have noticed mainly Campbell,Noone and Bellamy,and I think you will see those guys really step up under Ole.Still learning names and I honestly did not know anything about Cardiff untill about 3 weeks ago,sorry :mrgreen:
But the Bluebirds are now my favourite premiership team !

If some of you don't mind,can you tell me which of your players you see as the most talented,and which are the ones who always gives 100% for the Club?

Cheers,
Rune

Re: " Judge Ole after 12 games, but I have to admit "

Sun Jan 12, 2014 11:15 am

Hi all,
I have been viewing this forum for some months and enjoy the debates.
I want to comment on yesterday's game.
for me Whittingham has to be dropped simply not good enough for this standard, his dead balls are good at times but just my opinion.

bellamy I thought was fantastic yesterday and a player we need in the team to get the other players going. He ran all over the shop and I feel that we need long standing premiership players in the team.

odemwingie plays too deep and does hold onto the ball for long periods. Would of liked to see him up top right next to campbell. Gary medel recently hasnt played great and can slow games down.too many sideways passing and looked tired.

I want to thank Malky Mackay for what he has done as alot of people on here have short memories. Ole will do well for us with the players he brings in.

west ham like all team got the majority of their goals starting from our weaker side of the team.

As for cornelius the jury is still out for me.

Carl

Re: " Judge Ole after 12 games, but I have to admit "

Sun Jan 12, 2014 12:24 pm

BobbyBlue wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Bluebina wrote:Annis, Ole has changed the team a lot in only one week. The first few games the players are bound to make some mistakes as they try to adapt from one style of play to another. It won't be instinctive yet they will be a bit slower amd thinking about what they have been taught....


Thats why Ive strongly said dont judge Ole till after 12 games :thumbup:


Do you think if we get relegated, all our new signings like matts, eikrem and whoever else signs that are potentially class, will stick around and get us back up, or will Ole take them with him and we'll have to start off again with championship players?



As usual if a team gets relegated most of the top class players leave you,I would expect Caulker, Medel etc to leave, as they want to play international football. Lets hope Olie keeps us up. :thumbup:

Re: " Judge Ole after 12 games, but I have to admit "

Sun Jan 12, 2014 12:27 pm

Rune1973 wrote:New Bluebirds fan from Norway here :wave:

I watched yesterdays game on internet,and I think you and the players deserved better.I think you dominated most of the game,but lacked that extra sharpness in front of both goals. I felt down after the game since I really was hoping for 3 points in an important game like that.
But stay positive and be certain that Ole is in my opinion a brilliant motivator for the players that are willing to give the club,fans and their coach 100% .That is what Ole looks for in players,those who want to work hard and improve each day in training,and who wants to go on the pitch on matchday and make a great performance for the fans and club.As he said himself in an interview,he doesn't ask for more than 100% effort,but he also asks for no less!! So if you have deadmeat and guys only look for raising a big paycheck in your squad they probably will dissapear quite soon if Ole gets to decide.

Please don't talk shit about some of the players.Instead try to back them up.I think many of them might surprise you in the games to come under Ole's guidance.
I see Cornelius gets a lot of heat,and I must be honest to say I did not know anything about him until yesterday :lol: I have heard his name mentioned concerning FC Copenhagen,but never got any impression of him as a player.Watching a couple of youtube videos I am a little surprised that he was bought for as much as £8.5m ,but he also have some potential mainly as a target man.What the talents in your Club now have in Ole is in my opinion one of the most intelligent strikers I know of to teach them some good stuff.If Cornelius is willing to work hard,be prepared to see him growing as a striker and footballer in the time to come.

So far I have noticed mainly Campbell,Noone and Bellamy,and I think you will see those guys really step up under Ole.Still learning names and I honestly did not know anything about Cardiff untill about 3 weeks ago,sorry :mrgreen:
But the Bluebirds are now my favourite premiership team !

If some of you don't mind,can you tell me which of your players you see as the most talented,and which are the ones who always gives 100% for the Club?

Cheers,
Rune



Rune, I enjoyed reading your post and welcome. I am not judging Ole yet as he needs time. Its great to hear that u now know we exist :lol: :thumbup: :ayatollah:

Re: " Judge Ole after 12 games, but I have to admit "

Sun Jan 12, 2014 12:28 pm

Castro wrote:We were bottom. :D


Oh if only the league finished that day :lol:

Re: " Judge Ole after 12 games, but I have to admit "

Sun Jan 12, 2014 12:30 pm

duarte10 wrote:Hi all,
I have been viewing this forum for some months and enjoy the debates.
I want to comment on yesterday's game.
for me Whittingham has to be dropped simply not good enough for this standard, his dead balls are good at times but just my opinion.

bellamy I thought was fantastic yesterday and a player we need in the team to get the other players going. He ran all over the shop and I feel that we need long standing premiership players in the team.

odemwingie plays too deep and does hold onto the ball for long periods. Would of liked to see him up top right next to campbell. Gary medel recently hasnt played great and can slow games down.too many sideways passing and looked tired.

I want to thank Malky Mackay for what he has done as alot of people on here have short memories. Ole will do well for us with the players he brings in.

west ham like all team got the majority of their goals starting from our weaker side of the team.

As for cornelius the jury is still out for me.

Carl


Hi Carl, I have said all season we are carrying Whitts, but many disagree, I would drop him,I would also like to see Odemwingie go upfront with Campbell, i believe Ole likes attacking football.
Well said on Malky.
Now lets get ready for a real battle ahead. :thumbup: :ayatollah:

Re: " Judge Ole after 12 games, but I have to admit "

Sun Jan 12, 2014 12:38 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:Annis, We were far from awful, we dominated the 2nd half and as for your no plan b......what was going 3 at the back then?

I know your suffering a Malky hangover but in all honesty some of your posts lately have an undercurrent of you wanting Ole to fail so you can play the old "I told you so"

The improvement in the team play was evident, the players have had any attacking instinct drummed out of them through Malkys tactics and its going to take a few weeks for them to learn how to pass the ball again. With sone new players who know Ole's methods im feeling positive.



totally agree, i dont think any players had a bad game too it just didnt drop for us, we had 19 shots let alone the ones that were blocked, just wernt quite good enough today