" Is there any point? "

Yes, I do read properly, that's why I'm pressing you for an answer.
You admit that Man City are better than you because they are higher in the league, but will not admit that we are better than you despite being higher than you in the league. That is flawed logic.
If your thinking is correct, and we are not better than you, then at what position in the league does the transition from "not better" to "better" take place? 10th, 9th, 8th????? Or higher?

If you've read it properly, then you'd already know my answer.

Yes, I do read properly, that's why I'm pressing you for an answer.
You admit that Man City are better than you because they are higher in the league, but will not admit that we are better than you despite being higher than you in the league. That is flawed logic.
If your thinking is correct, and we are not better than you, then at what position in the league does the transition from "not better" to "better" take place? 10th, 9th, 8th????? Or higher?

If you've read it properly, then you'd already know my answer.

I have and you don't answer it

I Have.

I Have.

Ok the. Answer it again just for simple little me, please

Ok the. Answer it again just for simple little me, please

Already answered, take a look back.

Why is it tan has more ambition than our fans?

Why is it tan has more ambition than our fans?

Ambition is fine, but dragging the name of the club through the mud, getting involved in the football side of matters and destroying lots of its identity isn't.

Why is it tan has more ambition than our fans?

Ambition is fine, but dragging the name of the club through the mud, getting involved in the football side of matters and destroying lots of its identity isn't.

It's Tan's club to do with what he wishes. He's the one who's put £140m into it and that gives him the right to change the colour, change the name, interfere where he likes and destroy it's identity. You so desperately wanted what we had that you would have done anything to get it. Lots of posts on here about how Tan must go, but not many suggestions of where you're going to get the £140m to pay him back from! You reap what you sow. If you sup with the devil etc etc

Why is it tan has more ambition than our fans?

Ambition is fine, but dragging the name of the club through the mud, getting involved in the football side of matters and destroying lots of its identity isn't.

You didn't answer his question? Why is it that Tan has more ambition than the clubs own fans?

Why is it tan has more ambition than our fans?

Ambition is fine, but dragging the name of the club through the mud, getting involved in the football side of matters and destroying lots of its identity isn't.

You didn't answer his question? Why is it that Tan has more ambition than the clubs own fans?

Chuckles never answers the question

You didn't answer his question? Why is it that Tan has more ambition than the clubs own fans?

I didn't intend to. I said ambition is fine, but I'd prefer to respect the clubs name & identity over ambition. I'm sure you'd agree with me on that too.. Seeing as you found blue important enough to put in your username.

Ambition of the club should be to remain in the premiership & that should be Tan's too. Walk before you can run & all that. Any ambitions above that, are unrealistic, quite frankly.

You didn't answer his question? Why is it that Tan has more ambition than the clubs own fans?

I didn't intend to. I said ambition is fine, but I'd prefer to respect the clubs name & identity over ambition. I'm sure you'd agree with me on that too.. Seeing as you found blue important enough to put in your username.

Ambition of the club should be to remain in the premiership & that should be Tan's too. Walk before you can run & all that. Any ambitions above that, are unrealistic, quite frankly.

Your mixing ambition and achievable goals up ? Ambition goes way beyond surviving in the Premiership. Mr Tans ambition is to have 40-45,000 supporters coming through the turn styles watching a top Premiership team, possibly challenging for European competition. Which in all fairness, given that Cardiff is a capital city that exists in a European country, is the least we should be aiming for. As, the Op said, why is it that Tan has more ambition than our own supporters?

Your mixing ambition and achievable goals up ? Ambition goes way beyond surviving in the Premiership. Mr Tans ambition is to have 40-45,000 supporters coming through the turn styles watching a top Premiership team, possibly challenging for European competition. Which in all fairness, given that Cardiff is a capital city that exists in a European country, is the least we should be aiming for. As, the Op said, why is it that Tan has more ambition than our own supporters?

I refer back to my original point, if that ambition means trampling over clubs identity & dragging the clubs name through the mud and making it a laughing stock, I'd say no thanks to those ambitions.

Your mixing ambition and achievable goals up ? Ambition goes way beyond surviving in the Premiership. Mr Tans ambition is to have 40-45,000 supporters coming through the turn styles watching a top Premiership team, possibly challenging for European competition. Which in all fairness, given that Cardiff is a capital city that exists in a European country, is the least we should be aiming for. As, the Op said, why is it that Tan has more ambition than our own supporters?

I refer back to my original point, if that ambition means trampling over clubs identity & dragging the clubs name through the mud and making it a laughing stock, I'd say no thanks to those ambitions.

But you have already accepted it You do still go, dont you? You do still put your money into the club, don't you? Then if so, you are a hypocrite to say that you don't support his methods

But you have already accepted it You do still go, dont you? You do still put your money into the club, don't you? Then if so, you are a hypocrite to say that you don't support his methods

No I haven't.

But you have already accepted it You do still go, dont you? You do still put your money into the club, don't you? Then if so, you are a hypocrite to say that you don't support his methods

No I haven't.

You dont go anymore?

You dont go anymore?

Attendance doesn't mean you agree with the running of a club. Were you against Ridsdale and/or Hammam? If so, I assume you stopped going - or you are being a massive hypocrite here.

Jacks didn't stop attending under Tony Petty either, does that mean they agreed with him? No.

You clearly identify yourself as a "blue" - so you must disagree with Tan's rebrand & going by your theory have stopped attending too?

You dont go anymore?

Attendance doesn't mean you agree with the running of a club. Were you against Ridsdale and/or Hammam? If so, I assume you stopped going - or you are being a massive hypocrite here.

Jacks didn't stop attending under Tony Petty either, does that mean they agreed with him? No.

You clearly identify yourself as a "blue" - so you must disagree with Tan's rebrand & going by your theory have stopped attending too?

Ridsdale was your chucks first Chairman

You dont go anymore?

Attendance doesn't mean you agree with the running of a club. Were you against Ridsdale and/or Hammam? If so, I assume you stopped going - or you are being a massive hypocrite here.

Jacks didn't stop attending under Tony Petty either, does that mean they agreed with him? No.

You clearly identify yourself as a "blue" - so you must disagree with Tan's rebrand & going by your theory have stopped attending too?

VT was the only one that gave supporters a choice! He actually asked supporters to accept his changes and his investment or if not he would happily leave us to our own devices? We all chose to accept the changes. Those who now constantly blab their eyes out now and spend all their energy denegrating him, are hypocrites. Is that you Chuckles??

VT was the only one that gave supporters a choice! He actually asked supporters to accept his changes and his investment or if not he would happily leave us to our own devices? We all chose to accept the changes. Those who now constantly blab their eyes out now and spend all their energy denegrating him, are hypocrites. Is that you Chuckles??

No we didn't.

But you have already accepted it You do still go, dont you? You do still put your money into the club, don't you? Then if so, you are a hypocrite to say that you don't support his methods

No I haven't.

You dont go anymore?

His mum has stopped his pocket money.