Vincent Tan tells Malky Mackay " No Money in January "

Malky has done fantastic things for the football club, but for the sake of both Malky and the club its time he moves on.

You cannot run a successful Premier League club where the manager and owner don't talk to each other, and play out their vicious spat in the media.

Tan is playing games, Malky is playing games. Tan has behaved disgracefully, Malky is responsible for some seriously below average buys.

Tan and Malky need to thrash out a settlement immediately, and both parties need to go their separate ways. Otherwise both are doomed.

I have wondered when something like this would happen, it's obvious if he wanted Malky gone he was not going to let him spend money in January. Maybe there is money for January but Tan wants his own man to spend it ?????

Allan, Malky is speaking out so we can all start hearing/seeing the truth, thats the answer

Jesus Christ. It's not at all possible that Tan has been doing the same thing with this statement?

You don't actually believe a single word that man says do you?

what the bit about investment to get us to the premier,investment to stay there,settle Langston,new training facility's,stadium expansion.what a liar ay Harold.
oh and saved us from going bust.

Wez, Uve backed & stuck by Tan as he has ripped our club apart, please open your eyes.

Sorry annis but your anti tan agenda over the rebrand is getting in thw way of your judgement malky has been backed and his transfer policy is woefull you just got to look at the wasted amount paid on players sitting in the stand ,no wonder that tan is pissed off your a business man world you jeep chucking money at a manger of yours if he's wasting
It ?

You say he's wasted money the only player we've wasted money on is Brayford.You can't say Cornelius is wasted money yet as hes only just coming back from a long term injury! people writing him off within 4 months of being a cardiff player! People where saying the same about kimbo and mutch not to long ago! What other players have been wasted? Velekonja was signed by tan so you can't even mention him! He's got us promoted ,to a league cup final and were now 14/15th in the premier league how is that not using the money well? I've seen money thrown at managers for years in the championship and its not always that easy to get promoted even with money! What do people want? champions league football?

We are nearly half way through our first prem season and he has not made 1 start. He is indeed a waste of money. Even west hams owner has said he would of not wasted money on Carroll if he new his injury would drag put this long.

Malkey is a Football Manager and a good one , he never professed to be a clairvoyant how the hell did he know Cornelius was going to get a nasty injury. Get real or dont bother.

I'm not on about the injury, I'm on about the fact Cornelius is shit, as well as velikonja another expensive flop

What part of velikonja wasn't malkys signing do you not understand :laughing: and I love how you can tell cornelius is a shit player without seeing him play

Sorry but you are wrong velikonia was malky and Moody's signing and Thad a fact ,malky came out and said they have wanted him since their Watford days

Spot on, malky had been watching him at Watford, Malkys words not mine, he couldn't pick a good striker if he fell from the sky onto his lap

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Whoever thought malky would be backed in January needs to wake up and smell the coffee, why would be back a manager he wants out?

He wants quick success... the premier league doesn't work like that. I can see him losing interest, hopefully he does.

Why are the people who were and still are calling for tan to go, unhappy that he's not giving malky a penny?

Surely you're all not that hypocritical???

I back tan as a chairman, he's made mistakes but has taken us forward. But in my eyes we have to back malky with cash or sack him.

I think we can see it will be a mutual agreement in the offing. Just who will replace him

Allan, Malky is speaking out so we can all start hearing/seeing the truth, thats the answer

Jesus Christ. It's not at all possible that Tan has been doing the same thing with this statement?

You don't actually believe a single word that man says do you?

what the bit about investment to get us to the premier,investment to stay there,settle Langston,new training facility's,stadium expansion.what a liar ay Harold.
oh and saved us from going bust.

I have a few acres of swamp for sale in Florida if you are interested.

Malky has done fantastic things for the football club, but for the sake of both Malky and the club its time he moves on.

You cannot run a successful Premier League club where the manager and owner don't talk to each other, and play out their vicious spat in the media.

Tan is playing games, Malky is playing games. Tan has behaved disgracefully, Malky is responsible for some seriously below average buys.

Tan and Malky need to thrash out a settlement immediately, and both parties need to go their separate ways. Otherwise both are doomed.

Good bye Tan end off, he has stripped our club of its identity,pride and divided our club.

Why are the people who were and still are calling for tan to go, unhappy that he's not giving malky a penny?

Surely you're all not that hypocritical???

I back tan as a chairman, he's made mistakes but has taken us forward. But in my eyes we have to back malky with cash or sack him.

I think we can see it will be a mutual agreement in the offing. Just who will replace him

avb

Allan, Malky is speaking out so we can all start hearing/seeing the truth, thats the answer

Jesus Christ. It's not at all possible that Tan has been doing the same thing with this statement?

You don't actually believe a single word that man says do you?

what the bit about investment to get us to the premier,investment to stay there,settle Langston,new training facility's,stadium expansion.what a liar ay Harold.
oh and saved us from going bust. [/quote]

If malkies doing it so truth comes out? Is it possible that tan is doing the same? Or is malky beyond reproach?

Why are the people who were and still are calling for tan to go, unhappy that he's not giving malky a penny?

Surely you're all not that hypocritical???

I back tan as a chairman, he's made mistakes but has taken us forward. But in my eyes we have to back malky with cash or sack him.

I think we can see it will be a mutual agreement in the offing. Just who will replace him

Bellamy's very Quiet

Why are the people who were and still are calling for tan to go, unhappy that he's not giving malky a penny?

Surely you're all not that hypocritical???

I back tan as a chairman, he's made mistakes but has taken us forward. But in my eyes we have to back malky with cash or sack him.

I think we can see it will be a mutual agreement in the offing. Just who will replace him

avb

no chance we would get avb

Allan, Malky is speaking out so we can all start hearing/seeing the truth, thats the answer

Jesus Christ. It's not at all possible that Tan has been doing the same thing with this statement?

You don't actually believe a single word that man says do you?

what the bit about investment to get us to the premier,investment to stay there,settle Langston,new training facility's,stadium expansion.what a liar ay Harold.
oh and saved us from going bust.

If malkies doing it so truth comes out? Is it possible that tan is doing the same? Or is malky beyond reproach?[/quote]
i would certainly believe MM before Vinnie the Poo anyday.

Why the sudden rush is one of the Managerless clubs after Tans choice of new manager ????

Malky has done fantastic things for the football club, but for the sake of both Malky and the club its time he moves on.

You cannot run a successful Premier League club where the manager and owner don't talk to each other, and play out their vicious spat in the media.

Tan is playing games, Malky is playing games. Tan has behaved disgracefully, Malky is responsible for some seriously below average buys.

Tan and Malky need to thrash out a settlement immediately, and both parties need to go their separate ways. Otherwise both are doomed.

Good bye Tan end off, he has stripped our club of its identity,pride and divided our club.

Hes also put the club on the global map

Malky has done fantastic things for the football club, but for the sake of both Malky and the club its time he moves on.

You cannot run a successful Premier League club where the manager and owner don't talk to each other, and play out their vicious spat in the media.

Tan is playing games, Malky is playing games. Tan has behaved disgracefully, Malky is responsible for some seriously below average buys.

Tan and Malky need to thrash out a settlement immediately, and both parties need to go their separate ways. Otherwise both are doomed.

Good bye Tan end off, he has stripped our club of its identity,pride and divided our club.

You keep saying this annis but who is going to bank roll us ? Your mate Sam ?

You don't actually believe a single word that man says do you?

I'm one of these enlightened people who doesn't jump to conclusions or let bias guide their judgement. I'm not sure the same can be said of many others, when it comes to Vincent Tan.

The guy clearly sees Cardiff City as a business, not as a football club, that can't be disputed and I wouldn't even try to. Was it right he came out with these comments? Not in the slightest, but he's outright stated now why Moody was fired - if he did that, and was lying, he'd be leaving himself open to a lawsuit from Moody's camp. Considering this is the same man who seemingly doesn't want to just pay the couple million it would cost to dismiss Malky, I can't see him going public with a lie that could also cost him money in damages if deemed to be incorrect.

No, I don't want to believe every word out of his mouth, but that doesn't mean I'll just jump to conclusions about him and other situations just because it suits a purpose to do so. Malky has not been an angel in all of this, and clearly is trying to boost his stock as a PL manager, but at the same time he's clearly been focused on his job at hand which is managing the team - I can't question that.

At this point though, Tan is not going anywhere, but one of them clearly needs to. That person has to be Malky, even though it scares the shit out of me thinking who we could end up with instead.

Spot on KWest.

Tan and Malky are both playing the fans like fishes, creating stupid black and white arguments along the lines of "He said, she said, blah, blah, blah".

Like it or lump it, VT owns the club. And the only certainty is there is only going to be one winner here. Malky will always get absolutely enormous respect from me, but its time he and VT went their separate ways.

Malky has done fantastic things for the football club, but for the sake of both Malky and the club its time he moves on.

You cannot run a successful Premier League club where the manager and owner don't talk to each other, and play out their vicious spat in the media.

Tan is playing games, Malky is playing games. Tan has behaved disgracefully, Malky is responsible for some seriously below average buys.

Tan and Malky need to thrash out a settlement immediately, and both parties need to go their separate ways. Otherwise both are doomed.

Good bye Tan end off, he has stripped our club of its identity,pride and divided our club.

Hes also put the club on the global map

Polo he certainly did that, we were laughing stock all over the world.

Only place we really need to strengthen is on the wing. It made such a difference Saturday having a winger on the pitch who ran at defenders, we would be twice the attacking force if we had that on the left. I would seriousl consider recalling Conway.
That £8million spent on Cornellius looks a massive waste of resources atm. Imagine having a proven 8 mill winger in our ranks now instead. I would feel a lot better about ur survival chances. I'm a big Malky fan and think he should be given the season regardless of results or performance and think the team spirit will be enough to keep us up. However the signing of Cornelius for that amount of money was a massive mistake (even if he does turn out to e brilliant in 3-4 years time) and one that may cost him his job unfortunatley.

Maybe because it was WBA at home instead of Spurs Everton and Man c or Man City.........

[quotei="KWest"]

Allan, Malky is speaking out so we can all start hearing/seeing the truth, thats the answer

Jesus Christ. It's not at all possible that Tan has been doing the same thing with this statement?

You don't actually believe a single word that man says do you?

what the bit about investment to get us to the premier,investment to stay there,settle Langston,new training facility's,stadium expansion.what a liar ay Harold.
oh and saved us from going bust.

If malkies doing it so truth comes out? Is it possible that tan is doing the same? Or is malky beyond reproach?[/quote]
i would certainly believe MM before Vinnie the Poo anyday.[/quote]

That's not the point! people saying malkies doing it so truth comes out? Please tell us what is the truth? I've Been waiting six months for any sort of truth to appear and guess wait another six months before it happens if it does?

Malky has done fantastic things for the football club, but for the sake of both Malky and the club its time he moves on.

You cannot run a successful Premier League club where the manager and owner don't talk to each other, and play out their vicious spat in the media.

Tan is playing games, Malky is playing games. Tan has behaved disgracefully, Malky is responsible for some seriously below average buys.

Tan and Malky need to thrash out a settlement immediately, and both parties need to go their separate ways. Otherwise both are doomed.

Good bye Tan end off, he has stripped our club of its identity,pride and divided our club.

Hes also put the club on the global map

Polo he certainly did that, we were laughing stock all over the world.

He bought us promotion that is undeniable

How has Malky overspent when it was recently reported that we were £4m under budget? Moody stated this on the weekend we played Palace. If there was an overspend Moody would have been sacked and would not have had his remaining contract paid. This is as I've stated before all about keeping CCFC in the press ready for next years share flotation.

Furthermore, why did Tan initially publicise that there was a £25m fund for transfers unless he wanted it in the public domain so that he could accuse someone of an overspend. Which other clubs release statements of how much they intend to spend on transfers? Also, how do we know what Tan intended to spend when his fund has gone from £25m to £35m then to £50m and yet was reported as £4m under budget.

How has Malky overspent when it was recently reported that we were £4m under budget? Moody stated this on the weekend we played Palace. If there was an overspend Moody would have been sacked and would not have had his remaining contract paid. This is as I've stated before all about keeping CCFC in the press ready for next years share flotation.

Furthermore, why did Tan initially publicise that there was a £25m fund for transfers unless he wanted it in the public domain so that he could accuse someone of an overspend. Which other clubs release statements of how much they intend to spend on transfers? Also, how do we know what Tan intended to spend when his fund has gone from £25m to £35m then to £50m and yet was reported as £4m under budget.

How has Malky overspent when it was recently reported that we were £4m under budget? Moody stated this on the weekend we played Palace. If there was an overspend Moody would have been sacked and would not have had his remaining contract paid. This is as I've stated before all about keeping CCFC in the press ready for next years share flotation.

Furthermore, why did Tan initially publicise that there was a £25m fund for transfers unless he wanted it in the public domain so that he could accuse someone of an overspend. Which other clubs release statements of how much they intend to spend on transfers? Also, how do we know what Tan intended to spend when his fund has gone from £25m to £35m then to £50m and yet was reported as £4m under budget.

You don't actually believe a single word that man says do you?

I'm one of these enlightened people who doesn't jump to conclusions or let bias guide their judgement. I'm not sure the same can be said of many others, when it comes to Vincent Tan.

The guy clearly sees Cardiff City as a business, not as a football club, that can't be disputed and I wouldn't even try to. Was it right he came out with these comments? Not in the slightest, but he's outright stated now why Moody was fired - if he did that, and was lying, he'd be leaving himself open to a lawsuit from Moody's camp. Considering this is the same man who seemingly doesn't want to just pay the couple million it would cost to dismiss Malky, I can't see him going public with a lie that could also cost him money in damages if deemed to be incorrect.

No, I don't want to believe every word out of his mouth, but that doesn't mean I'll just jump to conclusions about him and other situations just because it suits a purpose to do so. Malky has not been an angel in all of this, and clearly is trying to boost his stock as a PL manager, but at the same time he's clearly been focused on his job at hand which is managing the team - I can't question that.

At this point though, Tan is not going anywhere, but one of them clearly needs to. That person has to be Malky, even though it scares the shit out of me thinking who we could end up with instead.

Spot on KWest.

Tan and Malky are both playing the fans like fishes, creating stupid black and white arguments along the lines of "He said, she said, blah, blah, blah".

Like it or lump it, VT owns the club. And the only certainty is there is only going to be one winner here. Malky will always get absolutely enormous respect from me, but its time he and VT went their separate ways.

Well we agree on something anyway. Hopefully they will go their separate ways. Preferably with Tan going ASAP.

Wez, Uve backed & stuck by Tan as he has ripped our club apart, please open your eyes.

Sorry annis but your anti tan agenda over the rebrand is getting in thw way of your judgement malky has been backed and his transfer policy is woefull you just got to look at the wasted amount paid on players sitting in the stand ,no wonder that tan is pissed off your a business man world you jeep chucking money at a manger of yours if he's wasting
It ?

You say he's wasted money the only player we've wasted money on is Brayford.You can't say Cornelius is wasted money yet as hes only just coming back from a long term injury! people writing him off within 4 months of being a cardiff player! People where saying the same about kimbo and mutch not to long ago! What other players have been wasted? Velekonja was signed by tan so you can't even mention him! He's got us promoted ,to a league cup final and were now 14/15th in the premier league how is that not using the money well? I've seen money thrown at managers for years in the championship and its not always that easy to get promoted even with money! What do people want? champions league football?

We are nearly half way through our first prem season and he has not made 1 start. He is indeed a waste of money. Even west hams owner has said he would of not wasted money on Carroll if he new his injury would drag put this long.

Malkey is a Football Manager and a good one , he never professed to be a clairvoyant how the hell did he know Cornelius was going to get a nasty injury. Get real or dont bother.

I'm not on about the injury, I'm on about the fact Cornelius is shit, as well as velikonja another expensive flop

What part of velikonja wasn't malkys signing do you not understand :laughing: and I love how you can tell cornelius is a shit player without seeing him play

Can you provide proof that Malky did not want Velikonja?

Because theres an article where Malky is quoted as saying that he was tracking him when he was at watford

[quotei="KWest"]

Allan, Malky is speaking out so we can all start hearing/seeing the truth, thats the answer

Jesus Christ. It's not at all possible that Tan has been doing the same thing with this statement?

You don't actually believe a single word that man says do you?

what the bit about investment to get us to the premier,investment to stay there,settle Langston,new training facility's,stadium expansion.what a liar ay Harold.
oh and saved us from going bust.

If malkies doing it so truth comes out? Is it possible that tan is doing the same? Or is malky beyond reproach?

i would certainly believe MM before Vinnie the Poo anyday.[/quote]

That's not the point! people saying malkies doing it so truth comes out? Please tell us what is the truth? I've Been waiting six months for any sort of truth to appear and guess wait another six months before it happens if it does?[/quote]
Because the truth is already out there mate ,tan sacked moody for wasting millions on unproven crap at this level ,malky feels that tan has sacked his best buddy and is now playing games through the media by say he wants 3 new players in january when the chairmen said weeks ago that is is not going to happen ,tan is pissed off and says no money is going to be spent ,all.the anti tan people have jumped on this and and want tan out but also want him to spend money on transfers lol

Malky has done fantastic things for the football club, but for the sake of both Malky and the club its time he moves on.

You cannot run a successful Premier League club where the manager and owner don't talk to each other, and play out their vicious spat in the media.

Tan is playing games, Malky is playing games. Tan has behaved disgracefully, Malky is responsible for some seriously below average buys.

Tan and Malky need to thrash out a settlement immediately, and both parties need to go their separate ways. Otherwise both are doomed.

Good bye Tan end off, he has stripped our club of its identity,pride and divided our club.

Hes also put the club on the global map

Polo he certainly did that, we were laughing stock all over the world.

He bought us promotion that is undeniable

But he could not have done it without MM.

well what tan says is true malky and moody did over spend and did do bad business for a new promoted club in singings of brayford and cornileus, if cornileus is not ready and is for the future you don't sign him in that transfer window when you are a new club needing players to play RIGHT NOW!, malky is a great guy but he can make silly mistakes and yes he is learning but tan aint messing about as everyone has gathered by now, malky will be gone by end of the season imo I just fear who tan will replace him with

Malky has done fantastic things for the football club, but for the sake of both Malky and the club its time he moves on. You cannot run a successful Premier League club where the manager and owner don't talk to each other, and play out their vicious spat in the media.
Tan is playing games, Malky is playing games. Tan has behaved disgracefully, Malky is responsible for some seriously below average buys.
Tan and Malky need to thrash out a settlement immediately, and both parties need to go their separate ways. Otherwise both are doomed.

Good bye Tan end off, he has stripped our club of its identity,pride and divided our club.

Hes also put the club on the global map

Polo he certainly did that, we were laughing stock all over the world.

He bought us promotion that is undeniable

But he could not have done it without MM.

Get real. Any manager worth their salts given 15m in the championship and players on 35k a week should get you promoted.