Wed Nov 27, 2013 8:50 pm
Barry Chuckle wrote:bakerbluebird wrote:There were no racist comments. If there were then the rest of the group wouldn't have joined in and would of frowned at them just like the people who aren't following BU would have done.
There was "We're Welsh, not Malaysian" but that isn't racist in the slightest, seems like people chanting an obvious statement really.
There were 2 asian people walking by me and there were 3 Malaysian people up at the castle who asked to pose with some randomer who had a 'Tan Out' banner... BU aren't the KKK for god sake, it is open to people of all races/backgrounds...
There were. I'm not on about that chant, I'm on about another 2 chants that a small group were singing.
Wed Nov 27, 2013 8:55 pm
bakerbluebird wrote:
Come on Chuckles, I respect your opinions on matters but I simply can't agree with what you are saying...
There were no racist chants, I was near the middle but on the left hand side, there weren't a lot of us people on the march as you obviously know so surely if a few people chanted racist slurs then someone would of said something about it - Especially the 2 Asian lads I mentioned above.
A small group though? what chants did that small group spur out? - You said that there were chants about Tan's dress code but that isn't racist either - I heard "We want Tan Out" , I heard "We're Welsh, not Malaysian"... My partner was with me too, I just asked her did she hear anything racist and she said she didn't either.
I've mentioned about that can that was thrown at a minibus because I seen that, that was pathetic.
Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:10 pm
Barry Chuckle wrote:bakerbluebird wrote:
Come on Chuckles, I respect your opinions on matters but I simply can't agree with what you are saying...
There were no racist chants, I was near the middle but on the left hand side, there weren't a lot of us people on the march as you obviously know so surely if a few people chanted racist slurs then someone would of said something about it - Especially the 2 Asian lads I mentioned above.
A small group though? what chants did that small group spur out? - You said that there were chants about Tan's dress code but that isn't racist either - I heard "We want Tan Out" , I heard "We're Welsh, not Malaysian"... My partner was with me too, I just asked her did she hear anything racist and she said she didn't either.
I've mentioned about that can that was thrown at a minibus because I seen that, that was pathetic.
I don't care about whether you agree or not.. The songs I've posted on the Facebook page is what I heard.
I couldn't care less if you didn't hear it either, doesn't mean it didn't happen. I didn't see the can being thrown, doesn't mean that it doesn't happen.
I'll repeat the songs I heard by a very small minority (2 or 3 lads)
"Vincent Tan's a f**king ladyboy."
"F**k off you Malaysian b**tard!"
These are at best distasteful & could clearly be mistaken as racist chanting - is this really what BU wants to associate itself with?
Mods - please delete the chants if you feel they shouldn't be here.
Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:11 pm
Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:13 pm
Barry Chuckle wrote:bakerbluebird wrote:
Come on Chuckles, I respect your opinions on matters but I simply can't agree with what you are saying...
There were no racist chants, I was near the middle but on the left hand side, there weren't a lot of us people on the march as you obviously know so surely if a few people chanted racist slurs then someone would of said something about it - Especially the 2 Asian lads I mentioned above.
A small group though? what chants did that small group spur out? - You said that there were chants about Tan's dress code but that isn't racist either - I heard "We want Tan Out" , I heard "We're Welsh, not Malaysian"... My partner was with me too, I just asked her did she hear anything racist and she said she didn't either.
I've mentioned about that can that was thrown at a minibus because I seen that, that was pathetic.
I don't care about whether you agree or not.. The songs I've posted on the Facebook page is what I heard.
I couldn't care less if you didn't hear it either, doesn't mean it didn't happen. I didn't see the can being thrown, doesn't mean that it doesn't happen.
I'll repeat the songs I heard by a very small minority (2 or 3 lads)
"Vincent Tan's a f**king ladyboy."
"F**k off you Malaysian b**tard!"
These are at best distasteful & could clearly be mistaken as racist chanting - is this really what BU wants to associate itself with?
Mods - please delete the chants if you feel they shouldn't be here.
Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:15 pm
alfie sherwood wrote:Barry Chuckle wrote:bakerbluebird wrote:
Come on Chuckles, I respect your opinions on matters but I simply can't agree with what you are saying...
There were no racist chants, I was near the middle but on the left hand side, there weren't a lot of us people on the march as you obviously know so surely if a few people chanted racist slurs then someone would of said something about it - Especially the 2 Asian lads I mentioned above.
A small group though? what chants did that small group spur out? - You said that there were chants about Tan's dress code but that isn't racist either - I heard "We want Tan Out" , I heard "We're Welsh, not Malaysian"... My partner was with me too, I just asked her did she hear anything racist and she said she didn't either.
I've mentioned about that can that was thrown at a minibus because I seen that, that was pathetic.
I don't care about whether you agree or not.. The songs I've posted on the Facebook page is what I heard.
I couldn't care less if you didn't hear it either, doesn't mean it didn't happen. I didn't see the can being thrown, doesn't mean that it doesn't happen.
I'll repeat the songs I heard by a very small minority (2 or 3 lads)
"Vincent Tan's a f**king ladyboy."
"F**k off you Malaysian b**tard!"
These are at best distasteful & could clearly be mistaken as racist chanting - is this really what BU wants to associate itself with?
Mods - please delete the chants if you feel they shouldn't be here.
Stupid and needless chants (as are the majority of football chants, tbh) but not racist, as far as I'm concerned. Also, given that they were chanted by 2 or 3 lads hardly representative of BU or those on the march.
I've met you a couple of times Alex and think you're a thoroughly decent bloke but I think that you'd have been better off raising your concerns with Sian or one of the stewards on the day as I'm certain that she would have put the fear into God into the silly sods chanting that crap!
Just my personal opinion but I wouldn't have created a post on an internet forum (based on the chants and the miniscule number of offensive chanters) when there is already a feverish anti BU witch hunt taking place amongst a number of regular posters.
Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:26 pm
Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:31 pm
Barry Chuckle wrote:Aggressive? Get a grip.I couldn't care less if you believe if it happened or not, it happened!
This was a report on the BU march & what I felt about it - I'm not going to leave things out to suit anyone's agendas.
You may not deem them racist, but I certainly do & even if you don't, they certainly aren't the sort of chants you want to associate with BU.
I didn't say anything as I didn't want to get involved - why didn't you say something to the person who threw the can?
BU are doing themselves no favours by trying to please everyone. Either come out officially as a Tan Out group (after the songs and banners at Sundays march - nobody can try to claim that they aren't) or return to the original format of a peaceful return to blue.
They should also get rid of that Facebook page - so much crap on there about "reds" and glory supporters etc. if they want a discussion forum, they should set up a moderated forum, where this nonsense can be eradicated. It's doing their credibility no good at all.
Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:34 pm
Barry Chuckle wrote:Aggressive? Get a grip.I couldn't care less if you believe if it happened or not, it happened!
This was a report on the BU march & what I felt about it - I'm not going to leave things out to suit anyone's agendas.
You may not deem them racist, but I certainly do & even if you don't, they certainly aren't the sort of chants you want to associate with BU.
I didn't say anything as I didn't want to get involved - why didn't you say something to the person who threw the can?
BU are doing themselves no favours by trying to please everyone. Either come out officially as a Tan Out group (after the songs and banners at Sundays march - nobody can try to claim that they aren't) or return to the original format of a peaceful return to blue.
They should also get rid of that Facebook page - so much crap on there about "reds" and glory supporters etc. if they want a discussion forum, they should set up a moderated forum, where this nonsense can be eradicated. It's doing their credibility no good at all.
Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:38 pm
alfie sherwood wrote:
I don't know anything about any can incident Alex.
We'll have to agree to disagree about the exact nature of the chanting.
I agree that a public statement clarifying the official stance of BU would be welcome regarding their future direction and I've said right from the off that the Facebook page needs to go as it leaves BU open to criticism. I've never hidden my feelings from Sian on that matter.
Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:41 pm
alfie sherwood wrote:Barry Chuckle wrote:bakerbluebird wrote:
Come on Chuckles, I respect your opinions on matters but I simply can't agree with what you are saying...
There were no racist chants, I was near the middle but on the left hand side, there weren't a lot of us people on the march as you obviously know so surely if a few people chanted racist slurs then someone would of said something about it - Especially the 2 Asian lads I mentioned above.
A small group though? what chants did that small group spur out? - You said that there were chants about Tan's dress code but that isn't racist either - I heard "We want Tan Out" , I heard "We're Welsh, not Malaysian"... My partner was with me too, I just asked her did she hear anything racist and she said she didn't either.
I've mentioned about that can that was thrown at a minibus because I seen that, that was pathetic.
I don't care about whether you agree or not.. The songs I've posted on the Facebook page is what I heard.
I couldn't care less if you didn't hear it either, doesn't mean it didn't happen. I didn't see the can being thrown, doesn't mean that it doesn't happen.
I'll repeat the songs I heard by a very small minority (2 or 3 lads)
"Vincent Tan's a f**king ladyboy."
"F**k off you Malaysian b**tard!"
These are at best distasteful & could clearly be mistaken as racist chanting - is this really what BU wants to associate itself with?
Mods - please delete the chants if you feel they shouldn't be here.
Stupid and needless chants (as are the majority of football chants, tbh) but not racist, as far as I'm concerned. Also, given that they were chanted by 2 or 3 lads hardly representative of BU or those on the march.
I've met you a couple of times Alex and think you're a thoroughly decent bloke but I think that you'd have been better off raising your concerns with Sian or one of the stewards on the day as I'm certain that she would have put the fear into God into the silly sods chanting that crap!
Just my personal opinion but I wouldn't have created a post on an internet forum (based on the chants and the miniscule number of offensive chanters) when there is already a feverish anti BU witch hunt taking place amongst a number of regular posters.
Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:42 pm
Barry Chuckle wrote:alfie sherwood wrote:
I don't know anything about any can incident Alex.
We'll have to agree to disagree about the exact nature of the chanting.
I agree that a public statement clarifying the official stance of BU would be welcome regarding their future direction and I've said right from the off that the Facebook page needs to go as it leaves BU open to criticism. I've never hidden my feelings from Sian on that matter.
Sorry Phil, my response was a combined effort for you and Baker.![]()
Whilst I'd prefer a CCFC without Vincent Tan, I'd like to know what the plan is should BU force a Tan out. I think this is what is stopping people from signing up.
Many are also happy to go along with Tan though & would just prefer to see CCFC in blue, but not at the cost of Tan's ownership.
Complicated one & an important decision.
Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:44 pm
Barry Chuckle wrote:alfie sherwood wrote:
I don't know anything about any can incident Alex.
We'll have to agree to disagree about the exact nature of the chanting.
I agree that a public statement clarifying the official stance of BU would be welcome regarding their future direction and I've said right from the off that the Facebook page needs to go as it leaves BU open to criticism. I've never hidden my feelings from Sian on that matter.
Sorry Phil, my response was a combined effort for you and Baker.![]()
Whilst I'd prefer a CCFC without Vincent Tan, I'd like to know what the plan is should BU force a Tan out. I think this is what is stopping people from signing up.
Many are also happy to go along with Tan though & would just prefer to see CCFC in blue, but not at the cost of Tan's ownership.
Complicated one & an important decision.
Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:50 pm
Barry Chuckle wrote:alfie sherwood wrote:
I don't know anything about any can incident Alex.
We'll have to agree to disagree about the exact nature of the chanting.
I agree that a public statement clarifying the official stance of BU would be welcome regarding their future direction and I've said right from the off that the Facebook page needs to go as it leaves BU open to criticism. I've never hidden my feelings from Sian on that matter.
Sorry Phil, my response was a combined effort for you and Baker.![]()
Whilst I'd prefer a CCFC without Vincent Tan, I'd like to know what the plan is should BU force a Tan out. I think this is what is stopping people from signing up.
Many are also happy to go along with Tan though & would just prefer to see CCFC in blue, but not at the cost of Tan's ownership.
Complicated one & an important decision.
Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:50 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:Most people don't understand what the situation would be if Tan left.
If he was to leave tomorrow he would lose all his money. Thats not in a billionaires dictionary that. So therefore Tan is going no where if we are nice or very very rude to him.
Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:56 pm
Thu Nov 28, 2013 12:32 am
Forever Blue wrote::ayatollah:![]()
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Thu Nov 28, 2013 12:40 pm
Shinobipony wrote:Forever Blue wrote::ayatollah:![]()
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That's a nice pic .....
Think History should be replaced with the word LOYAL though.
PRIDE. IDENTITY. LOYAL.
Thu Nov 28, 2013 12:46 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:Most people don't understand what the situation would be if Tan left.
If he was to leave tomorrow he would lose all his money. Thats not in a billionaires dictionary that. So therefore Tan is going no where if we are nice or very very rude to him.
Thu Nov 28, 2013 1:01 pm
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Thu Nov 28, 2013 3:08 pm
Joe Mackay wrote:This has been done to death now but from what I've seen of the posts on this board and also the Facebook page is that only this chuckles person heard the alleged racist chants and nobody actually saw the can being thrown. There certainly does seem to be an incredible over reaction to incidents that allegedly took place. When you put these in to context of what happened at Hull with stewards and fans being attacked and also a keeper being attacked during a game then some alleged incidents fade into insignificance. I have today been back in touch with the police ( that we've dealt with whilst arranging and coordinating our events) about the weekends March and protests and they've confirmed to me that no arrests were made and that no reports of damage to buses or any other property have been reported in respect of the BU March.
Thu Nov 28, 2013 3:19 pm
bakerbluebird wrote:
As for the "racist chants" though, as you say - nobody else heard anything racist and even the things Chuckles claims are racist chants aren't even racist ffs- It could be deemed offensive but so eradicating 100 years of identity without consulting the fans...
Thu Nov 28, 2013 3:38 pm
Thu Nov 28, 2013 3:57 pm
Barry Chuckle wrote:bakerbluebird wrote:
As for the "racist chants" though, as you say - nobody else heard anything racist and even the things Chuckles claims are racist chants aren't even racist ffs- It could be deemed offensive but so eradicating 100 years of identity without consulting the fans...
They could easily be construed as racist though. So it's okay for BU to be offensive, but not Tan?
Hypocritical at best.
Thu Nov 28, 2013 4:31 pm
Thu Nov 28, 2013 5:11 pm
Barry Chuckle wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:Most people don't understand what the situation would be if Tan left.
If he was to leave tomorrow he would lose all his money. Thats not in a billionaires dictionary that. So therefore Tan is going no where if we are nice or very very rude to him.
If that's the case, why are BU going down the Tan out road?
It should be a simple back to blue cause. If successful, it would garner a lot more support & far less vitriol than it's currently getting.
Thu Nov 28, 2013 5:27 pm
CESAR wrote:Barry Chuckle wrote:bakerbluebird wrote:
As for the "racist chants" though, as you say - nobody else heard anything racist and even the things Chuckles claims are racist chants aren't even racist ffs- It could be deemed offensive but so eradicating 100 years of identity without consulting the fans...
They could easily be construed as racist though. So it's okay for BU to be offensive, but not Tan?
Hypocritical at best.
Give it a rest chuckles,if your hearing voices get to the doctors
Thu Nov 28, 2013 6:27 pm
redordead wrote:Mario Polotelli wrote:Chuckles in his defence has gone onto BU site and qualified why hes made this thread.
Chuckles and I will never see eye to eye but I say fair fucks to him for doing that.
He could easily have hidden behind his user name but he has gone on there and explained his thoughts.
polo he's just grovelling that's all to cover his back,he's probably the biggest troll on here who's upset countless posters and ruined countless threads.