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Im passed caring. The damage is already done. I just want our club back and the circus to stop.

tan not anyone else ? not lim ? sorry but this is down to lim ,as city gent and other ITK have already said

Tan is the one that brought in a painter to replace one of Malky's trusted team.

Frankly Chuckle I think your stance on this and the way you are sticking to your guns is admirable.

The thing is, with Malky in charge of transfers, the issue of Borat is becoming irrelevant. He won't be around in a few months mark my words.

tan not anyone else ? not lim ? sorry but this is down to lim ,as city gent and other ITK have already said

Tan is the one that brought in a painter to replace one of Malky's trusted team.

Frankly Chuckle I think your stance on this and the way you are sticking to your guns is admirable.

The thing is, with Malky in charge of transfers, the issue of Borat is becoming irrelevant. He won't be around in a few months mark my words.

Maybe so, but isn't that the club trying to restore "normality" after another one of VT's urges?

How long before he does some major damage?

tan not anyone else ? not lim ? sorry but this is down to lim ,as city gent and other ITK have already said

Tan is the one that brought in a painter to replace one of Malky's trusted team.

Frankly Chuckle I think your stance on this and the way you are sticking to your guns is admirable.

The thing is, with Malky in charge of transfers, the issue of Borat is becoming irrelevant. He won't be around in a few months mark my words.

Maybe so, but isn't that the club trying to restore "normality" after another one of VT's urges?

How long before he does some major damage?

Look, you are right on this. It was a bizarre move explained as Steve quite rightly pointed out, by the Malaysian cultural issue of "saving face".

The changes in corporate governance and protocols should, IMO, end up being largely positive for the club. The confirmation of Malky's power over transfers is also a good move.

I am also interested in the transparency we're seeing. Probably another story there, too.

tan not anyone else ? not lim ? sorry but this is down to lim ,as city gent and other ITK have already said

Tan is the one that brought in a painter to replace one of Malky's trusted team.

Frankly Chuckle I think your stance on this and the way you are sticking to your guns is admirable.

The thing is, with Malky in charge of transfers, the issue of Borat is becoming irrelevant. He won't be around in a few months mark my words.

Maybe so, but isn't that the club trying to restore "normality" after another one of VT's urges?

How long before he does some major damage?

wasnt lim to blame for it all ,confirmed yesterday by city gent and vince elm also earlier by steve davies

wasnt lim to blame for it all ,confirmed yesterday by city gent and vince elm also earlier by steve davies

No. Considering you are one to not like gossip, your reliance on supposed ITK people is rather ironic.

Tan & Tan alone appointed the painter. The club have since seen fit to "re-jig" to cover up his ridiculous decision.

Although it appears that Lim was at fault for this supposed over spend.

wasnt lim to blame for it all ,confirmed yesterday by city gent and vince elm also earlier by steve davies

No. Considering you are one to not like gossip, your reliance on supposed ITK people is rather ironic.

Tan & Tan alone appointed the painter. The club have since seen fit to "re-jig" to cover up his ridiculous decision.

Although it appears that Lim was at fault for this supposed over spend.

just wondering how do you know it was tan and tan alone from gossip sources

wasnt lim to blame for it all ,confirmed yesterday by city gent and vince elm also earlier by steve davies

No. Considering you are one to not like gossip, your reliance on supposed ITK people is rather ironic.

Tan & Tan alone appointed the painter. The club have since seen fit to "re-jig" to cover up his ridiculous decision.

Although it appears that Lim was at fault for this supposed over spend.

just wondering how do you know it was tan and tan alone from gossip sources

No. I think it's pretty obvious that Tan appointed him. I don't listen to any ITK sources, as they are only interested in promoting their own egos.

Who else would provide a job to someone that's friends with Tan's son?

I will just say one thing, there is 100% only one person who has the final say and the right to fire Senior staff and employ Senior Staff and that is VINCENT TAN, End off.

wasnt lim to blame for it all ,confirmed yesterday by city gent and vince elm also earlier by steve davies

No. Considering you are one to not like gossip, your reliance on supposed ITK people is rather ironic.

Tan & Tan alone appointed the painter. The club have since seen fit to "re-jig" to cover up his ridiculous decision.

Although it appears that Lim was at fault for this supposed over spend.

I can see you are totally anti-Tan which is fine but why do you go on and on about this painter! It was pretty obvious at the time that Tan had a hidden agenda for appointing him and he was never going to be responsible for selecting players during the January transfer window. Do you honestly believe Tan would give a 23 year old with no football knowledge authority to spend his millions

The purpose of appointing him i.e. forcing Malkay to follow Moody after their spat last Tuesday has now gone away following the revelations about Lim and the decision to give Malkay a more hands on role within the club. It was an impulsive stupid decision but he was never going to be the Head of Recruitment, I think 99% of us realize that

wasnt lim to blame for it all ,confirmed yesterday by city gent and vince elm also earlier by steve davies

No. Considering you are one to not like gossip, your reliance on supposed ITK people is rather ironic.

Tan & Tan alone appointed the painter. The club have since seen fit to "re-jig" to cover up his ridiculous decision.

Although it appears that Lim was at fault for this supposed over spend.

I can see you are totally anti-Tan which is fine but why do you go on and on about this painter! It was pretty obvious at the time that Tan had a hidden agenda for appointing him and he was never going to be responsible for selecting players during the January transfer window. Do you honestly believe Tan would give a 23 year old with no football knowledge authority to spend his millions

The purpose of appointing him i.e. forcing Malkay to follow Moody after their spat last Tuesday has now gone away following the revelations about Lim and the decision to give Malkay a more hands on role within the club. It was an impulsive stupid decision but he was never going to be the Head of Recruitment, I think 99% of us realize that

this was pointed out ages ago but it doesn't suite peoples agenda! and they think tan is good business man but they still reckon he appointed a painter to spend his million!

The thing is, with Malky in charge of transfers, the issue of Borat is becoming irrelevant. He won't be around in a few months mark my words.

Damned, why is he even around now? My call is Tan doesn't trust Malky as much as he claims in the media and is having this fella as his private eye on the case with him and the squad to see whats truly up. The fact this Kazakh has even been brought in to be babysitter totally undermines Malky's position as a managerial professional. Basically, Tan wants someone to report back to him on whats happening which is a joke. This guy could make anything up, could pass on information wrongly - he knows sod all about football other than a bit of research before the role. Its laughable. It truly is.

The thing is, with Malky in charge of transfers, the issue of Borat is becoming irrelevant. He won't be around in a few months mark my words.

Damned, why is he even around now? My call is Tan doesn't trust Malky as much as he claims in the media and is having this fella as his private eye on the case with him and the squad to see whats truly up. The fact this Kazakh has even been brought in to be babysitter totally undermines Malky's position as a managerial professional. Basically, Tan wants someone to report back to him on whats happening which is a joke. This guy could make anything up, could pass on information wrongly - he knows sod all about football other than a bit of research before the role. Its laughable. It truly is.

Well, he's golden in the grass department because he's got Lim.

I guess the bottom line is it could be for a number of ill-informed reasons, none of which bother me as much as they did yesterday.

The thing is, with Malky in charge of transfers, the issue of Borat is becoming irrelevant. He won't be around in a few months mark my words.

Damned, why is he even around now? My call is Tan doesn't trust Malky as much as he claims in the media and is having this fella as his private eye on the case with him and the squad to see whats truly up. The fact this Kazakh has even been brought in to be babysitter totally undermines Malky's position as a managerial professional. Basically, Tan wants someone to report back to him on whats happening which is a joke. This guy could make anything up, could pass on information wrongly - he knows sod all about football other than a bit of research before the role. Its laughable. It truly is.

Your a bit behind with this. A board meeting has taken place and a transfer committee has been formed headed by the Chairman and with Malkay as Head of Recruitment in all but name only i.e. he has the final say. The Kazakh isn't on any of the committees along with Lim and both are now redundant. The Kazakh having being used as an innocent pawn has deliberately not been mentioned at all as he happens to be the son of a very wealthy man and a friend of Tan's son. He will disappear VERY quietly as will Lim to save face all around

The thing is, with Malky in charge of transfers, the issue of Borat is becoming irrelevant. He won't be around in a few months mark my words.

Damned, why is he even around now? My call is Tan doesn't trust Malky as much as he claims in the media and is having this fella as his private eye on the case with him and the squad to see whats truly up. The fact this Kazakh has even been brought in to be babysitter totally undermines Malky's position as a managerial professional. Basically, Tan wants someone to report back to him on whats happening which is a joke. This guy could make anything up, could pass on information wrongly - he knows sod all about football other than a bit of research before the role. Its laughable. It truly is.

Your a bit behind with this. A board meeting has taken place and a transfer committee has been formed headed by the Chairman and with Malkay as Head of Recruitment in all but name only i.e. he has the final say. The Kazakh isn't on any of the committees along with Lim and both are now redundant. The Kazakh having being used as an innocent pawn has deliberately not been mentioned at all as he happens to be the son of a very wealthy man and a friend of Tan's son. He will disappear VERY quietly as will Lim to save face all around

Another (good) way of putting it.

Your a bit behind with this. A board meeting has taken place and a transfer committee has been formed headed by the Chairman and with Malkay as Head of Recruitment in all but name only i.e. he has the final say. The Kazakh isn't on any of the committees along with Lim and both are now redundant. The Kazakh having being used as an innocent pawn has deliberately not been mentioned at all as he happens to be the son of a very wealthy man and a friend of Tan's son. He will disappear VERY quietly as will Lim to save face all around

Cheers for clarifying. I have been out today and busy working so not up to date. Thank you for getting me up to speed on the latest developments.

Seems some are missing the point, the painter is no more except in name, the committee will in future seek and buy in players, this is a very positive statement, as obviously Moody carried the can for lim's non action, and Lim will be on his way very soon. I see again that all the doom mongers are out in force, and when VT turns the debt to equity, they will still say there is something behind it there is, there will then not be very much re: loans and certainly not over £50m

This point seems to have escaped most. Moodys role no longer exists.

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Seems some are missing the point, the painter is no more except in name, the committee will in future seek and buy in players, this is a very positive statement, as obviously Moody carried the can for lim's non action, and Lim will be on his way very soon. I see again that all the doom mongers are out in force, and when VT turns the debt to equity, they will still say there is something behind it there is, there will then not be very much re: loans and certainly not over £50m

This point seems to have escaped most. Moodys role no longer exists.

what ever you say will fall on deafs ears tan is the devil on this site this statement is probably the best thats ever come out of the club ,tan is keeping all his promises so far also the events of last week have been addressed with the re shuffle at board level

Hmmm not 100% on this one, I feel a bit happier that he is writing the interest off and will probably turn the debt to equity, but I am still a bit worried about what happened last week that we definately know about, and also what happened that we haven't been told about?

Malky will also be feeling the pressure more than ever now which can't be good.....

why the f@ck do you care so much about what happened to moody,the club haven't got to explain every coming and going regarding staff.These things happen in football,get over it.

if i sack one of my bar staff for what ever reason i dont tell my customers why its obivious that moody and lim have had a fallen out and both will we gone

What a crap example wez. For a start you would need good grounds to sack someone and they would have needed to have commited some sort of gross misconduct to warrant this. There is no evidence that this has taken place here.If the employee appealed against your action then you would indeed have to justify to him and others why and on what grounds the dismissal was justified.
You cannot pretend we fans are just mere customers. We are far more than this and are the lifeblood of the club. To dismiss us as mere customers is an insult to all fans blue and red. Why people want to know what is happening is that they care deeply about the future of the club and the implications of getting rid of a backroom member of staff who has a proven track record and is vital to our future ambitions only to replace him with someone who is completely unsuitable. If Malky is concerned about these actions and it worries him then it should worry us also. To give you an example based on your bar staff scenario then it would be like you sacking the best barman for no good reason and then to replace him with some idiot that drops your glasses spills beer on your customers and is also rude to them and then not expecting your loyal customers to demand answers or ignore them completely. I am sure if you acted in this way then the business would not only suffer but possibly fail to survive.

this is funny, dont you think that if it wasnt good ground to sack him or some sort of unfair dismissal, that moody and malky etc would have appealed this, and tried to sue tan etc.

point is moody hasnt come out to defend himself, malky hasnt either, so there is obvious grounds as to why he has been removed, grounds which we wont find out for a while due to legal reasons im sure, or at least out of respect for moody so that it doesnt tarnish his reputation.

as for the latter, sorry to break it to you but we are customers... passionate ones who care a lot more than paying customers at a bar but we are customers all the same, if we dont go, others will come. we dont deserve to know the reasons behind the ins and outs as we dont own the club. im not saying the business wont suffer with tans decisions, but do we have a right to know his reasoning behind them...no not at all.

Im passed caring. The damage is already done. I just want our club back and the circus to stop.

the third sentence (above) suggests you DO care, James

Seems some are missing the point, the painter is no more except in name, the committee will in future seek and buy in players, this is a very positive statement, as obviously Moody carried the can for lim's non action, and Lim will be on his way very soon. I see again that all the doom mongers are out in force, and when VT turns the debt to equity, they will still say there is something behind it there is, there will then not be very much re: loans and certainly not over £50m

This point seems to have escaped most. Moodys role no longer exists.

what ever you say will fall on deafs ears tan is the devil on this site this statement is probably the best thats ever come out of the club ,tan is keeping all his promises so far also the events of last week have been addressed with the re shuffle at board level

Hmmm not 100% on this one, I feel a bit happier that he is writing the interest off and will probably turn the debt to equity, but I am still a bit worried about what happened last week that we definately know about, and also what happened that we haven't been told about?

Malky will also be feeling the pressure more than ever now which can't be good.....

why the f@ck do you care so much about what happened to moody,the club haven't got to explain every coming and going regarding staff.These things happen in football,get over it.

if i sack one of my bar staff for what ever reason i dont tell my customers why its obivious that moody and lim have had a fallen out and both will we gone

What a crap example wez. For a start you would need good grounds to sack someone and they would have needed to have commited some sort of gross misconduct to warrant this. There is no evidence that this has taken place here.If the employee appealed against your action then you would indeed have to justify to him and others why and on what grounds the dismissal was justified.
You cannot pretend we fans are just mere customers. We are far more than this and are the lifeblood of the club. To dismiss us as mere customers is an insult to all fans blue and red. Why people want to know what is happening is that they care deeply about the future of the club and the implications of getting rid of a backroom member of staff who has a proven track record and is vital to our future ambitions only to replace him with someone who is completely unsuitable. If Malky is concerned about these actions and it worries him then it should worry us also. To give you an example based on your bar staff scenario then it would be like you sacking the best barman for no good reason and then to replace him with some idiot that drops your glasses spills beer on your customers and is also rude to them and then not expecting your loyal customers to demand answers or ignore them completely. I am sure if you acted in this way then the business would not only suffer but possibly fail to survive.

this is funny, dont you think that if it wasnt good ground to sack him or some sort of unfair dismissal, that moody and malky etc would have appealed this, and tried to sue tan etc.

point is moody hasnt come out to defend himself, malky hasnt either, so there is obvious grounds as to why he has been removed, grounds which we wont find out for a while due to legal reasons im sure, or at least out of respect for moody so that it doesnt tarnish his reputation.

as for the latter, sorry to break it to you but we are customers... passionate ones who care a lot more than paying customers at a bar but we are customers all the same, if we dont go, others will come. we dont deserve to know the reasons behind the ins and outs as we dont own the club. im not saying the business wont suffer with tans decisions, but do we have a right to know his reasoning behind them...no not at all.

No wonder we as fans are the laughing stock of British football with views like this. As much as it pains me to admit it, we all know fans with similar views and they are generally the ones who were leaving in droves at half time against Newcastle when we got outplayed during the first half.They normally do not chant but politely clap instead which does wonders for the atmosphere and rarely attend away matches unless its a cup final at Wembley. So I suppose I can see why under these circumstances certain fans would consider themselves as mere customers.

Seems some are missing the point, the painter is no more except in name, the committee will in future seek and buy in players, this is a very positive statement, as obviously Moody carried the can for lim's non action, and Lim will be on his way very soon. I see again that all the doom mongers are out in force, and when VT turns the debt to equity, they will still say there is something behind it there is, there will then not be very much re: loans and certainly not over £50m

This point seems to have escaped most. Moodys role no longer exists.

what ever you say will fall on deafs ears tan is the devil on this site this statement is probably the best thats ever come out of the club ,tan is keeping all his promises so far also the events of last week have been addressed with the re shuffle at board level

Hmmm not 100% on this one, I feel a bit happier that he is writing the interest off and will probably turn the debt to equity, but I am still a bit worried about what happened last week that we definately know about, and also what happened that we haven't been told about?

Malky will also be feeling the pressure more than ever now which can't be good.....

why the f@ck do you care so much about what happened to moody,the club haven't got to explain every coming and going regarding staff.These things happen in football,get over it.

if i sack one of my bar staff for what ever reason i dont tell my customers why its obivious that moody and lim have had a fallen out and both will we gone

What a crap example wez. For a start you would need good grounds to sack someone and they would have needed to have commited some sort of gross misconduct to warrant this. There is no evidence that this has taken place here.If the employee appealed against your action then you would indeed have to justify to him and others why and on what grounds the dismissal was justified.
You cannot pretend we fans are just mere customers. We are far more than this and are the lifeblood of the club. To dismiss us as mere customers is an insult to all fans blue and red. Why people want to know what is happening is that they care deeply about the future of the club and the implications of getting rid of a backroom member of staff who has a proven track record and is vital to our future ambitions only to replace him with someone who is completely unsuitable. If Malky is concerned about these actions and it worries him then it should worry us also. To give you an example based on your bar staff scenario then it would be like you sacking the best barman for no good reason and then to replace him with some idiot that drops your glasses spills beer on your customers and is also rude to them and then not expecting your loyal customers to demand answers or ignore them completely. I am sure if you acted in this way then the business would not only suffer but possibly fail to survive.

this is funny, dont you think that if it wasnt good ground to sack him or some sort of unfair dismissal, that moody and malky etc would have appealed this, and tried to sue tan etc.

point is moody hasnt come out to defend himself, malky hasnt either, so there is obvious grounds as to why he has been removed, grounds which we wont find out for a while due to legal reasons im sure, or at least out of respect for moody so that it doesnt tarnish his reputation.

as for the latter, sorry to break it to you but we are customers... passionate ones who care a lot more than paying customers at a bar but we are customers all the same, if we dont go, others will come. we dont deserve to know the reasons behind the ins and outs as we dont own the club. im not saying the business wont suffer with tans decisions, but do we have a right to know his reasoning behind them...no not at all.

No wonder we as fans are the laughing stock of British football with views like this. As much as it pains me to admit it, we all know fans with similar views and they are generally the ones who were leaving in droves at half time against Newcastle when we got outplayed during the first half.They normally do not chant but politely clap instead which does wonders for the atmosphere and rarely attend away matches unless its a cup final at Wembley. So I suppose I can see why under these circumstances certain fans would consider themselves as mere customers.

so without knowing me or any factual information to support this, you assume or shall we say stereotype that i leave at half time, dont sing along and have never attended away games? i mean come on really not only is it wrong its rediculously unsupported...

a football club is a business and its fans are customers, passionate customers, if yo want to believe your bigger and better than that you can but at the end of the day all that matters to owners is that you spend money

Jezzy please read my post again. I have not stated that the example is aimed at you personally. I stated that we all know fans with similar views and they generally tend to be the type who leave early which is a generalisation not a specific.
No one is saying that any fan is better than another but it is understandable why a fan who leaves a game early when we are getting beat or does not support the club away may feel that they are just a customer as you state. Many fans who spend 6 hours on a coach each way going to Hull for example who also live and breathe Cardiff City and have invested time and considerable costs following their team may be offended at the suggestion that they are a mere customer.
I state again that some fans are far more than that and our club is a business but cannot be compared to a bar as Wez suggested..

Jezzy please read my post again. I have not stated that the example is aimed at you personally. I stated that we all know fans with similar views and they generally tend to be the type who leave early which is a generalisation not a specific.
No one is saying that any fan is better than another but it is understandable why a fan who leaves a game early when we are getting beat or does not support the club away may feel that they are just a customer as you state. Many fans who spend 6 hours on a coach each way going to Hull for example who also live and breathe Cardiff City and have invested time and considerable costs following their team may be offended at the suggestion that they are a mere customer.
I state again that some fans are far more than that and our club is a business but cannot be compared to a bar as Wez suggested..

apologies, to me i find it hard to believe any fan would leave at half time, when people leave 5 mins before the end i just dont get it...apart from the getting out the car park excuse i suppose.

i see your points but maybe im looking from tan or any other business owners side, we are just customers, from a fans perspective i can see they feel they are the life and soul which in many ways they are but realistically if a fan leaves, another will replace it

Im passed caring. The damage is already done. I just want our club back and the circus to stop.

the third sentence (above) suggests you DO care, James

Of course I do Sven about the club. I meant Tan's regime. Im passed caring about what he or any of his puppets have to say. I should have clarified in my original post.

Just fed up of it to be honest Sven. I'd love to just focus on the footballing matters on the pitch but its very hard to avoid distraction when the circus show is in full flow.