That atmosphere tonight

Barry it was fron page last week ffs.
Swans to expand stadium along with new naming rights.
Plans were drawn up last season and thats what waddle put up, but it alls says for this season.
Now the plans are to be submitted by xmas so a start date can be confirmed and work will start end of season.

So it's not confirmed then & therefore cannot be called a FACT.

No u right barry I stand corrected.
It was a hot sunny day and your firs home game so there was fancy dress going on.
Just didnt realise that u could dress up as a empty seat

Barry it was fron page last week ffs.
Swans to expand stadium along with new naming rights.
Plans were drawn up last season and thats what waddle put up, but it alls says for this season.
Now the plans are to be submitted by xmas so a start date can be confirmed and work will start end of season.

So it's not confirmed then & therefore cannot be called a FACT.

What reasons would stop it going ahead then. Currently you do seem hell bent on nitpicking.

The club want it, the council do obviously, both have worked on the plans and its them that ratifies it.

How can a start date be given when the plans aint gone in?
U realy making a cock of your self here barry.

I fully expect you to expand, but not next season.

I therefore questioned Roath Magic's use of the word FACT when talking about a stadium expansion. This is because it cannot be called a fact as there is no confirmation of any work to be completed, no plans shown, no start date confirmed.

It's all PLANS at the moment.

It can only be called a fact when a start date & completion date are confirmed.

Although I did find it amusing that the only evidence brought forward was an article that said you would have 22.5k this season... Therefore blowing your own debate out of the water.

How can a start date be given when the plans aint gone in?
U realy making a cock of your self here barry.

How can you call it a FACT when plans haven't even gone in?

Thanks for backing up my point Paul.

No u right barry I stand corrected.
It was a hot sunny day and your firs home game so there was fancy dress going on.
Just didnt realise that u could dress up as a empty seat

Game was sold out & unlike you, I can provide an official club link to back up my point.

http://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/news/art ... 52262.aspx

I fully expect you to expand, but not next season.

I therefore questioned Roath Magic's use of the word FACT when talking about a stadium expansion. This is because it cannot be called a fact as there is no confirmation of any work to be completed, no plans shown, no start date confirmed.

It's all PLANS at the moment.

It can only be called a fact when a start date & completion date are confirmed.

Although I did find it amusing that the only evidence brought forward was an article that said you would have 22.5k this season... Therefore blowing your own debate out of the water.

It doesnt matter, plans dont take long to finalise. It will be finalised by xmas and the ones that have to ratify it are the ones that helped draw the plans up.

I am going to get a dog and call it jack. I havent bought one yet and have no written plans but this is still a fact. Swansea want the extension, as do the council, they are working together to put in final plans by xmas allowing a 3,000 first phase expansion.

Its fact.

who gives a flying monkeys what it sounded like last night, i for one had it on mute as i was going to watch the DVPsquad but decided to give it a miss as the wife was moaning so ended up watching on youtube

who gives a flying monkeys what it sounded like last

The insecure amongst your fanbase, clearly.

who gives a flying monkeys what it sounded like last

The insecure amongst your fanbase, clearly.

all i want is for on sunday and the other 16 games after that is to go mental and sing our hearts out at the CCS

who gives a flying monkeys what it sounded like last

The insecure amongst your fanbase, clearly.

all i want is for on sunday and the other 16 games after that is to go mental and sing our hearts out at the CCS

Indeed, a far more sensible outlook.

Off course it was barry
There was no empty seats.

Chuckles battering the trolls here

Bluebird82/Roath Magic/Barry Chuckle - are they all related?

Chuckles battering the trolls here

he's a damn sight better at the banter than you without a doubt

Bluebird82/Roath Magic/Barry Chuckle - are they all related?

roath and chuckles were split at birth , obviously with roath having the breaks in later life

Off course it was barry
There was no empty seats.

I've provided official club confirmation that all seats were purchased which Back up my claim.

When you provide official club statements to back up your unarticulated nonsense, then we will talk.

Chuckles battering the trolls here

he's a damn sight better at the banter than you without a doubt

jacks try and catch is out and vice versa..

Chuckles battering the trolls here

he's a damn sight better at the banter than you without a doubt

jacks try and catch is out and vice versa..

The Roathie / Chuckles are an insult to Roathie.

Roathie is far more engaging than Chuckles.

Roathie has a sense of humour, Chuckles doesnt. Boring tw@t.

This thread was ridiculously boring. I dont mind a debate, even a biased debate can have its merits however this nitpicking is just mind numbing.

Im sure ill be banned shortly anyway.

The Roathie / Chuckles are an insult to Roathie.

Roathie is far more engaging than Chuckles.

Roathie has a sense of humour, Chuckles doesnt. Boring tw@t.

This thread was ridiculously boring. I dont mind a debate, even a biased debate can have its merits however this nitpicking is just mind numbing.

Im sure ill be banned shortly anyway.

I havent read the whole thread but it must be tedious if you have got frustrated with the nit picking

Im self proclaimed best poster on the forum.

I don't recall any pundits waxing lyrical about Swansea like they were about Cardiff in their first season..

The last promoted side that were commented on for their atmosphere was Stoke. That's a few years ago now.

As for the 15k more, why not? If we stay up its totally realistic. I feel that we will stay up and get 35k next season.

The reason you 'don't recall' this is either because it's conveniently slipped your mind or because as a Cardiff fan you probably didn't take as much notice with regards to all the positive coverage Swans fans/club were getting. Just like I didn't realise you were getting plaudits for the atmosphere at CCS because i've not heard anyone mention it anywhere and I was watching us play Spurs when you played Man City.

Every time there was a game at the Liberty the pundits would comment on the atmosphere. Whenever we went away, the away fans would comment on how loud we were. I seem to remember TalkSport doing a fans survey after our first season in the Premier League and Swansea coming out on top. Not just for atmosphere, but for being the most loved fans.

I dont see the point in trying to point score on such matters tbh, playing devils advocate I thought when the crowd did get behind Swansea last night they were extremely loud.

There were large parts it was quiet but they were under immense pressure from Liverpool between Liverpools equaliser and Swanseas equaliser. This is something they are not used to last few years being played off the park on their own place and I think the crowd got nervous.

This is all new to us and it was rocking against City, not as good against Everton but still louder than its been the last 4 seasons, where lets be honest the atmosphere has been poor at the CCS.

We are playing the 12th man at the moment but perhaps when we get established in the PL the atmosphere comes down a notch or two, who knows. It certainly did in the championship the more seasons we spent there.

Stoke have gained many plaudits but having been a mid table side now for some years their atmosphere is not what it was against the majority of PL teams, it gets stepped up for the big guns as you would imagine at most PL grounds.

I dont see the point in trying to point score on such matters tbh, playing devils advocate I thought when the crowd did get behind Swansea last night they were extremely loud.

There were large parts it was quiet but they were under immense pressure from Liverpool between Liverpools equaliser and Swanseas equaliser. This is something they are not used to last few years being played off the park on their own place and I think the crowd got nervous.

This is all new to us and it was rocking against City, not as good against Everton but still louder than its been the last 4 seasons, where lets be honest the atmosphere has been poor at the CCS.

We are playing the 12th man at the moment but perhaps when we get established in the PL the atmosphere comes down a notch or two, who knows. It certainly did in the championship the more seasons we spent there.

Stoke have gained many plaudits but having been a mid table side now for some years their atmosphere is not what it was against the majority of PL teams, it gets stepped up for the big guns as you would imagine at most PL grounds.

Agree with all of that

I dont see the point in trying to point score on such matters tbh, playing devils advocate I thought when the crowd did get behind Swansea last night they were extremely loud.

There were large parts it was quiet but they were under immense pressure from Liverpool between Liverpools equaliser and Swanseas equaliser. This is something they are not used to last few years being played off the park on their own place and I think the crowd got nervous.

This is all new to us and it was rocking against City, not as good against Everton but still louder than its been the last 4 seasons, where lets be honest the atmosphere has been poor at the CCS.

We are playing the 12th man at the moment but perhaps when we get established in the PL the atmosphere comes down a notch or two, who knows. It certainly did in the championship the more seasons we spent there.

Stoke have gained many plaudits but having been a mid table side now for some years their atmosphere is not what it was against the majority of PL teams, it gets stepped up for the big guns as you would imagine at most PL grounds.

Yep. I agree. There is no point in point-scoring but that's exactly what the majority of threads on here and Planet Swans are about whenever Swans/Cardiff are mentioned.

Regarding last night, I was impressed with Liverpool for the first half hour and you're right, I think it was a bit of a shock to the system given that it's usually Swansea doing that to the opposition.
Once we got going, the Liverpool fans reacted the same way as became more nervous. It was an onslaught for the last half hour though and the home crowd reacted accordingly.

As has been said on here, once you become more established in this league and it becomes more 'the norm', the crowd get used to it. The atmosphere is still very good at Swans games but it's not as it was in our first season. The same will happen at Cardiff, as it has to Stoke. I went to Stoke last year and they were loud when they bothered to sing but they sang Delilah twice and that was it. Same with Liverpool at Anfield the year before. They sang YNWA as they came onto the field and then we didn't hear a peep out of them. I've went to Norwich last season and the season before and they have good fans. Again, newly promoted and up for it.

I dont see the point in trying to point score on such matters tbh, playing devils advocate I thought when the crowd did get behind Swansea last night they were extremely loud.

There were large parts it was quiet but they were under immense pressure from Liverpool between Liverpools equaliser and Swanseas equaliser. This is something they are not used to last few years being played off the park on their own place and I think the crowd got nervous.

This is all new to us and it was rocking against City, not as good against Everton but still louder than its been the last 4 seasons, where lets be honest the atmosphere has been poor at the CCS.

We are playing the 12th man at the moment but perhaps when we get established in the PL the atmosphere comes down a notch or two, who knows. It certainly did in the championship the more seasons we spent there.

Stoke have gained many plaudits but having been a mid table side now for some years their atmosphere is not what it was against the majority of PL teams, it gets stepped up for the big guns as you would imagine at most PL grounds.

Yep. I agree. There is no point in point-scoring but that's exactly what the majority of threads on here and Planet Swans are about whenever Swans/Cardiff are mentioned.

Regarding last night, I was impressed with Liverpool for the first half hour and you're right, I think it was a bit of a shock to the system given that it's usually Swansea doing that to the opposition.
Once we got going, the Liverpool fans reacted the same way as became more nervous. It was an onslaught for the last half hour though and the home crowd reacted accordingly.

As has been said on here, once you become more established in this league and it becomes more 'the norm', the crowd get used to it. The atmosphere is still very good at Swans games but it's not as it was in our first season. The same will happen at Cardiff, as it has to Stoke. I went to Stoke last year and they were loud when they bothered to sing but they sang Delilah twice and that was it. Same with Liverpool at Anfield the year before. They sang YNWA as they came onto the field and then we didn't hear a peep out of them. I've went to Norwich last season and the season before and they have good fans. Again, newly promoted and up for it.

So because you said so cardiff fans will hardly sing in the upcoming seasons, ok then.

I dont see the point in trying to point score on such matters tbh, playing devils advocate I thought when the crowd did get behind Swansea last night they were extremely loud.

There were large parts it was quiet but they were under immense pressure from Liverpool between Liverpools equaliser and Swanseas equaliser. This is something they are not used to last few years being played off the park on their own place and I think the crowd got nervous.

This is all new to us and it was rocking against City, not as good against Everton but still louder than its been the last 4 seasons, where lets be honest the atmosphere has been poor at the CCS.

We are playing the 12th man at the moment but perhaps when we get established in the PL the atmosphere comes down a notch or two, who knows. It certainly did in the championship the more seasons we spent there.

Stoke have gained many plaudits but having been a mid table side now for some years their atmosphere is not what it was against the majority of PL teams, it gets stepped up for the big guns as you would imagine at most PL grounds.

Yep. I agree. There is no point in point-scoring but that's exactly what the majority of threads on here and Planet Swans are about whenever Swans/Cardiff are mentioned.

Regarding last night, I was impressed with Liverpool for the first half hour and you're right, I think it was a bit of a shock to the system given that it's usually Swansea doing that to the opposition.
Once we got going, the Liverpool fans reacted the same way as became more nervous. It was an onslaught for the last half hour though and the home crowd reacted accordingly.

As has been said on here, once you become more established in this league and it becomes more 'the norm', the crowd get used to it. The atmosphere is still very good at Swans games but it's not as it was in our first season. The same will happen at Cardiff, as it has to Stoke. I went to Stoke last year and they were loud when they bothered to sing but they sang Delilah twice and that was it. Same with Liverpool at Anfield the year before. They sang YNWA as they came onto the field and then we didn't hear a peep out of them. I've went to Norwich last season and the season before and they have good fans. Again, newly promoted and up for it.

So because you said so cardiff fans will hardly sing in the upcoming seasons, ok then.

I take it you're not one of the brightest posters on this forum?

I didn't say we hardly sing at the Liberty. I said the atmosphere is very good. It's just not as good as it was in the first season.

After a few seasons, your fans won't be as loud as they were in the first season. Of course, you'll be louder against Man United, Chelsea etc than you would be, say, against the likes of Fulham. For clubs like ours, the first season in the Premier League is like no other. It's just the way it is.

I dont see the point in trying to point score on such matters tbh, playing devils advocate I thought when the crowd did get behind Swansea last night they were extremely loud.

There were large parts it was quiet but they were under immense pressure from Liverpool between Liverpools equaliser and Swanseas equaliser. This is something they are not used to last few years being played off the park on their own place and I think the crowd got nervous.

This is all new to us and it was rocking against City, not as good against Everton but still louder than its been the last 4 seasons, where lets be honest the atmosphere has been poor at the CCS.

We are playing the 12th man at the moment but perhaps when we get established in the PL the atmosphere comes down a notch or two, who knows. It certainly did in the championship the more seasons we spent there.

Stoke have gained many plaudits but having been a mid table side now for some years their atmosphere is not what it was against the majority of PL teams, it gets stepped up for the big guns as you would imagine at most PL grounds.

Yep. I agree. There is no point in point-scoring but that's exactly what the majority of threads on here and Planet Swans are about whenever Swans/Cardiff are mentioned.

Regarding last night, I was impressed with Liverpool for the first half hour and you're right, I think it was a bit of a shock to the system given that it's usually Swansea doing that to the opposition.
Once we got going, the Liverpool fans reacted the same way as became more nervous. It was an onslaught for the last half hour though and the home crowd reacted accordingly.

As has been said on here, once you become more established in this league and it becomes more 'the norm', the crowd get used to it. The atmosphere is still very good at Swans games but it's not as it was in our first season. The same will happen at Cardiff, as it has to Stoke. I went to Stoke last year and they were loud when they bothered to sing but they sang Delilah twice and that was it. Same with Liverpool at Anfield the year before. They sang YNWA as they came onto the field and then we didn't hear a peep out of them. I've went to Norwich last season and the season before and they have good fans. Again, newly promoted and up for it.

So because you said so cardiff fans will hardly sing in the upcoming seasons, ok then.

I take it you're not one of the brightest posters on this forum?

I didn't say we hardly sing at the Liberty. I said the atmosphere is very good. It's just not as good as it was in the first season.

After a few seasons, your fans won't be as loud as they were in the first season. Of course, you'll be louder against Man United, Chelsea etc than you would be, say, against the likes of Fulham. For clubs like ours, the first season in the Premier League is like no other. It's just the way it is.

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