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Re: Channel4 to broadcast muslim call to prayer each morning

Wed Jul 03, 2013 5:13 pm

Yes Jonny that's exactly what I am getting at if you want to take you must be willing to give. As most Muslim people do not give organs then surely they should not receive any. They should register as donors to make this clear. If they register no problem. The same should apply to everyone

Re: Channel4 to broadcast muslim call to prayer each morning

Wed Jul 03, 2013 5:19 pm

cardiff yid wrote:Yes Jonny that's exactly what I am getting at if you want to take you must be willing to give. As most Muslim people do not give organs then surely they should not receive any. They should register as donors to make this clear. If they register no problem. The same should apply to everyone


but you havent listened to my answer do unto others as you would have done to yourself its a selfless attitude and you should not question other peoples decisions and concentrate on your own. If the muslim community are unwilling to donate thats their choice it wont stop me from donating myself

Re: Channel4 to broadcast muslim call to prayer each morning

Wed Jul 03, 2013 5:20 pm

JONNY012697 wrote:
aj1927 wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
aj1927 wrote:Johnnycakes Abortions yes or no?


no but that is a different subject


And the poor souls who have been aborted, do you think they will enter heaven?


yes of course they will why wouldnt they?


So we would be doing them a favour and guaranteeing them entrance to heaven.

Re: Channel4 to broadcast muslim call to prayer each morning

Wed Jul 03, 2013 5:34 pm

JONNY012697 wrote:
cardiff yid wrote:Yes Jonny that's exactly what I am getting at if you want to take you must be willing to give. As most Muslim people do not give organs then surely they should not receive any. They should register as donors to make this clear. If they register no problem. The same should apply to everyone


but you havent listened to my answer do unto others as you would have done to yourself its a selfless attitude and you should not question other peoples decisions and concentrate on your own. If the muslim community are unwilling to donate thats their choice it wont stop me from donating myself
.......... It won't stop me either but to me they are selfish

Re: Channel4 to broadcast muslim call to prayer each morning

Wed Jul 03, 2013 5:58 pm

aj1927 wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
aj1927 wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
aj1927 wrote:Johnnycakes Abortions yes or no?


no but that is a different subject


And the poor souls who have been aborted, do you think they will enter heaven?


yes of course they will why wouldnt they?


So we would be doing them a favour and guaranteeing them entrance to heaven.


dont talk nonsense thats probably the most disgusting thing ive ever heard

Re: Channel4 to broadcast muslim call to prayer each morning

Wed Jul 03, 2013 5:59 pm

cardiff yid wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
cardiff yid wrote:Yes Jonny that's exactly what I am getting at if you want to take you must be willing to give. As most Muslim people do not give organs then surely they should not receive any. They should register as donors to make this clear. If they register no problem. The same should apply to everyone


but you havent listened to my answer do unto others as you would have done to yourself its a selfless attitude and you should not question other peoples decisions and concentrate on your own. If the muslim community are unwilling to donate thats their choice it wont stop me from donating myself
.......... It won't stop me either but to me they are selfish


well thats your opinion personally I havent put much thought into whether people are selfish or not I just do what I think is right

Re: Channel4 to broadcast muslim call to prayer each morning

Wed Jul 03, 2013 6:04 pm

JONNY012697 wrote:
aj1927 wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
aj1927 wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
aj1927 wrote:Johnnycakes Abortions yes or no?


no but that is a different subject


And the poor souls who have been aborted, do you think they will enter heaven?


yes of course they will why wouldnt they?


So we would be doing them a favour and guaranteeing them entrance to heaven.


dont talk nonsense thats probably the most disgusting thing ive ever heard


Based in your beliefs is that mate, not mine.
Its not nonsense,it's a valid theory based on your views.

Re: Channel4 to broadcast muslim call to prayer each morning

Wed Jul 03, 2013 6:09 pm

I don't believe in abortions,but neither do I believe in heaven and hell.

Re: Channel4 to broadcast muslim call to prayer each morning

Wed Jul 03, 2013 6:31 pm

aj1927 wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
aj1927 wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
aj1927 wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
no but that is a different subject


And the poor souls who have been aborted, do you think they will enter heaven?


yes of course they will why wouldnt they?


So we would be doing them a favour and guaranteeing them entrance to heaven.


dont talk nonsense thats probably the most disgusting thing ive ever heard


Based in your beliefs is that mate, not mine.
Its not nonsense,it's a valid theory based on your views.


no that would be a warped view of my religion designed to sensationalize your point and cause an argument. Personally I feel your use of innocent life to mock my religion is frankly very disgusting

Re: Channel4 to broadcast muslim call to prayer each morning

Wed Jul 03, 2013 6:41 pm

JONNY012697 wrote:
no that would be a warped view of my religion designed to sensationalize your point and cause an argument. Personally I feel your use of innocent life to mock my religion is frankly very disgusting


I am not using anything to sensationalise anything.
Again with the "My Religion",it ain't yours pal.

I find your ignorance to the fact that religion claims thousands of more lives than it saves quite disgusting but I would never judge you for it. You clearly prefer to be a follower instead of someone who leads.

Re: Channel4 to broadcast muslim call to prayer each morning

Wed Jul 03, 2013 6:47 pm

aj1927 wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
no that would be a warped view of my religion designed to sensationalize your point and cause an argument. Personally I feel your use of innocent life to mock my religion is frankly very disgusting


I am not using anything to sensationalise anything.
Again with the "My Religion",it ain't yours pal.

I find your ignorance to the fact that religion claims thousands of more lives than it saves quite disgusting but I would never judge you for it. You clearly prefer to be a follower instead of someone who leads.


I dont talk to trolls who use the loss of innocent life as an excuse for a laugh and a joke and then blame my beliefs for it taking no responsibility themselves for their opinion and their words.

Good Day

Re: Channel4 to broadcast muslim call to prayer each morning

Wed Jul 03, 2013 6:55 pm

JONNY012697 wrote:
aj1927 wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
no that would be a warped view of my religion designed to sensationalize your point and cause an argument. Personally I feel your use of innocent life to mock my religion is frankly very disgusting


I am not using anything to sensationalise anything.
Again with the "My Religion",it ain't yours pal.

I find your ignorance to the fact that religion claims thousands of more lives than it saves quite disgusting but I would never judge you for it. You clearly prefer to be a follower instead of someone who leads.


I dont talk to trolls who use the loss of innocent life as an excuse for a laugh and a joke and then blame my beliefs for it taking no responsibility themselves for their opinion and their words.

Good Day


I am not a Troll,nor am I laughing or joking.
We both agree that abortion is wrong, but my view has no religious bias on the matter.

I have asked you to show me facts on your or any religion Saving lives and you cannot provide this evidence.
But what can I expect from a person who while belief system is based on a non factual stories written by men.

I am not attacking you as a person but I am questioning your religious beliefs.

And thank you, I am having a good day.

Re: Channel4 to broadcast muslim call to prayer each morning

Wed Jul 03, 2013 6:56 pm

Whole not while (auto correct :oops: )

Re: Channel4 to broadcast muslim call to prayer each morning

Wed Jul 03, 2013 7:07 pm

aj1927 wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
aj1927 wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
no that would be a warped view of my religion designed to sensationalize your point and cause an argument. Personally I feel your use of innocent life to mock my religion is frankly very disgusting


I am not using anything to sensationalise anything.
Again with the "My Religion",it ain't yours pal.

I find your ignorance to the fact that religion claims thousands of more lives than it saves quite disgusting but I would never judge you for it. You clearly prefer to be a follower instead of someone who leads.


I dont talk to trolls who use the loss of innocent life as an excuse for a laugh and a joke and then blame my beliefs for it taking no responsibility themselves for their opinion and their words.

Good Day


I am not a Troll,nor am I laughing or joking.
We both agree that abortion is wrong, but my view has no religious bias on the matter.

I have asked you to show me facts on your or any religion Saving lives and you cannot provide this evidence.
But what can I expect from a person who while belief system is based on a non factual stories written by men.

I am not attacking you as a person but I am questioning your religious beliefs.

And thank you, I am having a good day.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAFOD

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Aid

Ive used wikipedia because it talks about the praise and the criticisms both charities have received so you cant attack me with that either

I support both these charities and take part in events as and when I can

yes they are both organised charities and people are paid whilst working for them but I think they do good work and are religious thats my evidence there are many more but these are the biggest I can think off the top of my head and they do great work.

As for any other quote from you im not entering the conversation I find it disgusting and shameful

Re: Channel4 to broadcast muslim call to prayer each morning

Wed Jul 03, 2013 7:18 pm

Ok let's just do the usual catholic thing and ignore the real world around us.

Religion it self does not kill, but it spawns religious fanaticism that incites hatred, violence and extremist views do, this has incited many wars in which millions of people have died over thousands of years.

It swings both ways I admit that.
But I don't see people walking around collecting for charity of not believing in God.

Re: Channel4 to broadcast muslim call to prayer each morning

Wed Jul 03, 2013 7:23 pm

All religion is crap and its proven atheists are more intelligent. I can never take a religious believer seriously. If someone tells me that they follow a religion I just stop listening to them. Its akin to someone telling me they believe in Harry Potter, Avatar or the Chronicles of Narnia.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... n-God.html
http://freethinker.co.uk/features/athei ... us-people/
http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/n ... 81.article
http://www.skepticink.com/tippling/2012 ... ve-in-god/

Harsh, but true.

Re: Channel4 to broadcast muslim call to prayer each morning

Wed Jul 03, 2013 7:54 pm

You know what. I don't think religion is the problem. I think its human nature that's the problem! if all religion disappeared tomorrow, I'm willing to bet we'd still be the vicious, violent, destructive animal that we are now. We just hide behind religion to justify our violent instinct. If there was know religion, we would find something else to hide behind and justify our nature. This planet would be a whole lot better off if humans didn't exist... And that's a fact.

Re: Channel4 to broadcast muslim call to prayer each morning

Wed Jul 03, 2013 7:59 pm

OddBalls wrote:You know what. I don't think religion is the problem. I think its human nature that's the problem! if all religion disappeared tomorrow, I'm willing to bet we'd still be the vicious, violent, destructive animal that we are now. We just hide behind religion to justify our violent instinct. If there was know religion, we would find something else to hide behind and justify our nature. This planet would be a whole lot better off if humans didn't exist... And that's a fact.


Well that is the only post on this topic that cannot be discredited or argued against.
:thumbup:

Re: Channel4 to broadcast muslim call to prayer each morning

Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:35 pm

The looney left strike again