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Re: £58 million

Fri Jan 04, 2013 5:34 pm

marlee wrote:Oi Chuckles, 20% fan ownership at Swansea, hardly small


Hardly large.

Re: £58 million

Fri Jan 04, 2013 5:48 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
marlee wrote:Oi Chuckles, 20% fan ownership at Swansea, hardly small


Hardly large.



It is when u consider that no one shareholder owns more than 24%,Swansea Trust are 3 largest

Re: £58 million

Fri Jan 04, 2013 9:43 pm

you can tart up the caravan park with that sort of money :lol:

Re: £58 million

Fri Jan 04, 2013 9:44 pm

:lol: :lol: yeah and i bet 50 mill of that came to cardiff :ayatollah:

Re: £58 million

Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:00 pm

We know how to fight for what we believe in in Swansea, thought u had a similar spirit, but u just rolled over when VT wanted a rebrand, for shame

Re: £58 million

Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:06 pm

marlee wrote:We know how to fight for what we believe in in Swansea, thought u had a similar spirit, but u just rolled over when VT wanted a rebrand, for shame


ok ! but scenario for you? owner comes in and you are about to get liquidated what would you do ? be liquidated or agree to shirt change? basically that's what we did!! :D

Re: £58 million

Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:40 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
marlee wrote:We know how to fight for what we believe in in Swansea, thought u had a similar spirit, but u just rolled over when VT wanted a rebrand, for shame


ok ! but scenario for you? owner comes in and you are about to get liquidated what would you do ? be liquidated or agree to shirt change? basically that's what we did!! :D


But you've let them all roll you, Sam, Ridders, TG and VT, careless

Re: £58 million

Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:45 pm

marlee wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
marlee wrote:We know how to fight for what we believe in in Swansea, thought u had a similar spirit, but u just rolled over when VT wanted a rebrand, for shame


ok ! but scenario for you? owner comes in and you are about to get liquidated what would you do ? be liquidated or agree to shirt change? basically that's what we did!! :D


But you've let them all roll you, Sam, Ridders, TG and VT, careless


yes we know that! but that doesnt answer my question though!

Re: £58 million

Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:05 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
marlee wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
marlee wrote:We know how to fight for what we believe in in Swansea, thought u had a similar spirit, but u just rolled over when VT wanted a rebrand, for shame


ok ! but scenario for you? owner comes in and you are about to get liquidated what would you do ? be liquidated or agree to shirt change? basically that's what we did!! :D


But you've let them all roll you, Sam, Ridders, TG and VT, careless


yes we know that! but that doesnt answer my question though!



Well, first off, we wouldn't demand instant success by paying overrated players, it's players like Peter Thorne, ginger Campbell to start and then Fowler, hasseilbank and sinclair that got you in a mess and each year since you've thrown good money after bad, and when someone backs you in a corner you roll over, sometimes you have to stand up and be counted, this was that time, where was you?

Re: £58 million

Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:12 pm

marlee wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
marlee wrote:Oi Chuckles, 20% fan ownership at Swansea, hardly small


Hardly large.



It is when u consider that no one shareholder owns more than 24%,Swansea Trust are 3 largest


Still, hardly large.

I'm not saying it's not a great setup, it is & I wish CCFC had similar, but it isn't large.

Re: £58 million

Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:23 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
marlee wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
marlee wrote:Oi Chuckles, 20% fan ownership at Swansea, hardly small


Hardly large.



It is when u consider that no one shareholder owns more than 24%,Swansea Trust are 3 largest


Still, hardly large.

I'm not saying it's not a great setup, it is & I wish CCFC had similar, but it isn't large.



20% is large, if supporters had 20% and one other had 80% I'd agree but as the shares are shared out between 8/9 bodies then I would say 20% is large

Re: £58 million

Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:46 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
marlee wrote:We know how to fight for what we believe in in Swansea, thought u had a similar spirit, but u just rolled over when VT wanted a rebrand, for shame


ok ! but scenario for you? owner comes in and you are about to get liquidated what would you do ? be liquidated or agree to shirt change? basically that's what we did!! :D


It's a no brainer for the gypo's, they've no shame, they would just shaft the tax man and creditors AGAIN

Re: £58 million

Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:52 pm

cityone wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
marlee wrote:We know how to fight for what we believe in in Swansea, thought u had a similar spirit, but u just rolled over when VT wanted a rebrand, for shame


ok ! but scenario for you? owner comes in and you are about to get liquidated what would you do ? be liquidated or agree to shirt change? basically that's what we did!! :D


It's a no brainer for the gypo's, they've no shame, they would just shaft the tax man and creditors AGAIN



Can't shaft the tax man although you tried a few times 2 years ago, the money you owe local traders may go unreported but we all know it exists

Re: £58 million

Sat Jan 05, 2013 1:06 pm

marlee wrote:
cityone wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
marlee wrote:We know how to fight for what we believe in in Swansea, thought u had a similar spirit, but u just rolled over when VT wanted a rebrand, for shame


ok ! but scenario for you? owner comes in and you are about to get liquidated what would you do ? be liquidated or agree to shirt change? basically that's what we did!! :D


It's a no brainer for the gypo's, they've no shame, they would just shaft the tax man and creditors AGAIN



Can't shaft the tax man although you tried a few times 2 years ago, the money you owe local traders may go unreported but we all know it exists


You have "done" the tax man TWICE he never received what he was due, (10p and 1p in the pound) creditors were delt with in the same manner, and of course when you went into administration staff lost theirs jobs because of it, all our creditors are being paid, in agreed terms/instalments but never the less being paid, (hammam has not got to be paid until 2016) unless of course a gypo knows more about Cardiff City finances than Cardiff City do??? maybe that's the case because you infest this board more than most of us

Re: £58 million

Sat Jan 05, 2013 1:21 pm

marlee wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
marlee wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
marlee wrote:Oi Chuckles, 20% fan ownership at Swansea, hardly small


Hardly large.



It is when u consider that no one shareholder owns more than 24%,Swansea Trust are 3 largest


Still, hardly large.

I'm not saying it's not a great setup, it is & I wish CCFC had similar, but it isn't large.



20% is large, if supporters had 20% and one other had 80% I'd agree but as the shares are shared out between 8/9 bodies then I would say 20% is large


It's the same amount regardless of who owns the other shares. A small share.

Re: £58 million

Sat Jan 05, 2013 1:57 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
marlee wrote:Oi Chuckles, 20% fan ownership at Swansea, hardly small


Hardly large.


It's the largest fan ownership/trust in the Premier League.

In reality it is a 100% fan ownership, 20% is the trust and the majority of the fans but the shares are all owned by richer individuals who are all fans of the club.

Re: £58 million

Sat Jan 05, 2013 2:39 pm

SCFC wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
marlee wrote:Oi Chuckles, 20% fan ownership at Swansea, hardly small


Hardly large.


It's the largest fan ownership/trust in the Premier League.

In reality it is a 100% fan ownership, 20% is the trust and the majority of the fans but the shares are all owned by richer individuals who are all fans of the club.


Still doesn't make it large. :lol: twist it all your like, a 20% in any business isn't a large share of this business.

It's certainly not 100% fan ownership - if you took that attitude then there's plenty of so called 100% fan owned clubs. :roll:

Re: £58 million

Sat Jan 05, 2013 2:40 pm

SCFC wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
marlee wrote:Oi Chuckles, 20% fan ownership at Swansea, hardly small


Hardly large.


It's the largest fan ownership/trust in the Premier League.

In reality it is a 100% fan ownership, 20% is the trust and the majority of the fans but the shares are all owned by richer individuals who are all fans of the club.


Your fans could only afford the club because you shafted creditors and went into admin just like Britain could only afford to give back countries because they invaded them and took them over in the first place. Just because you're on the up it doesn't mean you didn't do bad stuff in the past. I would rather our club be in red than see people lose jobs and struggle to make ends meet.

Re: £58 million

Sat Jan 05, 2013 3:50 pm

cityone wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
marlee wrote:We know how to fight for what we believe in in Swansea, thought u had a similar spirit, but u just rolled over when VT wanted a rebrand, for shame


ok ! but scenario for you? owner comes in and you are about to get liquidated what would you do ? be liquidated or agree to shirt change? basically that's what we did!! :D


It's a no brainer for the gypo's, they've no shame, they would just shaft the tax man and creditors AGAIN


People in glass houses should throw stones. Tan leaves you have a club not worth what it owes to him.AWKWARD!

Re: £58 million

Sat Jan 05, 2013 3:53 pm

SA1 wrote:
cityone wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
marlee wrote:We know how to fight for what we believe in in Swansea, thought u had a similar spirit, but u just rolled over when VT wanted a rebrand, for shame


ok ! but scenario for you? owner comes in and you are about to get liquidated what would you do ? be liquidated or agree to shirt change? basically that's what we did!! :D


It's a no brainer for the gypo's, they've no shame, they would just shaft the tax man and creditors AGAIN


People in glass houses should throw stones. Tan leaves you have a club not worth what it owes to him.AWKWARD!


He hasn't left though... :?

Re: £58 million

Sat Jan 05, 2013 5:16 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
SA1 wrote:
cityone wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
marlee wrote:We know how to fight for what we believe in in Swansea, thought u had a similar spirit, but u just rolled over when VT wanted a rebrand, for shame


ok ! but scenario for you? owner comes in and you are about to get liquidated what would you do ? be liquidated or agree to shirt change? basically that's what we did!! :D


It's a no brainer for the gypo's, they've no shame, they would just shaft the tax man and creditors AGAIN


People in glass houses should throw stones. Tan leaves you have a club not worth what it owes to him.AWKWARD!


He hasn't left though... :?


YET! He may get ...............
A: bored
B: fed up with red and change to pink
C: or throw away large sums of money trying to keep a loss making football club afloat.
D: all three of the above.

Re: £58 million

Sat Jan 05, 2013 5:19 pm

Maybe. Maybe not. You can't base an argument about something you have no proof of happening though.

Re: £58 million

Sat Jan 05, 2013 5:25 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:Maybe. Maybe not. You can't base an argument about something you have no proof of happening though.



Don't panic its just a leg pull. He is not leaving till he gets his investment back........in other words never. Lastest I hear is he wants to rename the team as well, ask the powers that be.

Re: £58 million

Sat Jan 05, 2013 5:26 pm

SA1 wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:Maybe. Maybe not. You can't base an argument about something you have no proof of happening though.



Don't panic its just a leg pull. He is not leaving till he gets his investment back........in other words never. Lastest I hear is he wants to rename the team as well, ask the powers that be.


Why not? Clubs lost most of its identity already. :cry:

Re: £58 million

Mon Jan 07, 2013 2:48 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
SA1 wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:Maybe. Maybe not. You can't base an argument about something you have no proof of happening though.



Don't panic its just a leg pull. He is not leaving till he gets his investment back........in other words never. Lastest I hear is he wants to rename the team as well, ask the powers that be.


Why not? Clubs lost most of its identity already. :cry:



Bluebirds :roll:

Re: £58 million

Mon Jan 07, 2013 4:37 pm

ninianblue wrote::lol: :lol: yeah and i bet 50 mill of that came to cardiff :ayatollah:


your prob bang on here. the visitors watch the game in swansea then head to Cardiff for some shopping & drinks, hotel etc. so while PL football brought £58million to the economy of swansea, it prob brought double that to Cardiff :lol: