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Re: UPDATED: ISRAELS MASSACRE OF INNOCENT PALESTINIANS CONTI

Tue Sep 09, 2025 6:10 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
Lengee wrote:Israels actions are, once again, indefencible.
We MUST stop supplying parts for F35 jets being used to slaughter children and innocent citizens in Gaza. Meanwhile our govt is more concerned with arresting people carrying support Palestine Action posters. You couldnt make it up!!
Israel have committed a terrible genocide and now their actions in Qatar risk a wider regional war. Dangerous times.



Today UK said there is no genocide in gaza ... starmer as no intention of banning anything he's allowing them to sell arms at an arms fair soon and their president is due to see him tomorrow in London ...
Doesn't sound like he's concerned one bit as to israels destruction of gaza City.... and for 2nd time Netanyahu as destroyed peace talks when nearly sorted. He's a war criminal and should be labelled as such


Starmer says meeting goahead with Israel president while he c
Condemns attack on Qatar? Hypocritical toe rag with no scruples .... usa new of attack but now the other hypocritical toe rag trump is trying to worm is way out of the trouble he's in. Time for men to be men and not cowards and sanction Israel to the hilt.

Re: UPDATED: ISRAELS MASSACRE OF INNOCENT PALESTINIANS CONTI

Tue Sep 09, 2025 9:48 pm

Usa says it's sorry that Qatar was attacked it was unfortunate that hamas was in a part of doha when attacked but attacking them was a worthwhile act? Talking a load of bollocks trump knew of attack but failed to stop Netanyahu now he's trying to crawl under a stone to get out of trouble! Everyone is condemning what happened but as of yet no-one is doing anything about stopping Israel just empty words...

Re: UPDATED: ISRAELS MASSACRE OF INNOCENT PALESTINIANS CONTI

Wed Sep 10, 2025 7:50 pm

Israeli president net stRmer snc others and basically starmer reiterated he wanted an end to genocide/starvation in gaza although he has said there is no such thing! He deplored attack on Qatar blah blah nlah..... Israeli just reiterated what Netanyahu as said that there was no starvation no forced movement blah blah blah by the meeting was just a publicity stunt by both people to look as if they wanted to do something... fcking hypocrites both of them ..

Re: UPDATED: ISRAELS MASSACRE OF INNOCENT PALESTINIANS CONTI

Wed Sep 10, 2025 8:46 pm

Gary Lineker won the Best Presenter award at the National Television Awards tonight, ending the 23 year winning run for Ant and Dec.

Probably mostly down to his support of Gaza.
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Re: UPDATED: ISRAELS MASSACRE OF INNOCENT PALESTINIANS CONTI

Wed Sep 10, 2025 9:16 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:Gary Lineker won the Best Presenter award at the National Television Awards tonight, ending the 23 year winning run for Ant and Dec.

Probably mostly down to his support of Gaza.


Yes award was from the peoples vote... really shows the lack of talent on presenting side of tv over the past 23yrs that same two idiots won it for being on tv 52wks of the year ...

Re: UPDATED: ISRAELS MASSACRE OF INNOCENT PALESTINIANS CONTI

Thu Sep 11, 2025 2:18 pm

RTE, which is the Eurovision broadcaster for Ireland, has said they will not have Ireland take part in next year's competition if Israel are allowed to participate.

The broadcasters for Slovenia and Spain have said similar.

Re: UPDATED: ISRAELS MASSACRE OF INNOCENT PALESTINIANS CONTI

Thu Sep 11, 2025 3:26 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:RTE, which is the Eurovision broadcaster for Ireland, has said they will not have Ireland take part in next year's competition if Israel are allowed to participate.

The broadcasters for Slovenia and Spain have said similar.



Think it will snowball with more joining boycott almost had it last year and mot surprised as more and more countries taking harder stand on Israel but usa pushing back on countries who stop trade ect with Israel....as for boycott uk won't be joining it that's for sure

Re: UPDATED: ISRAELS MASSACRE OF INNOCENT PALESTINIANS CONTI

Tue Sep 16, 2025 6:00 pm

For me the killing of 20,000 innocent children was evidence enough of genocide.
BUT Today, the new UN report is detailed and damning, presenting evidence it says shows that Israel is committing genocide in Gaza. It states that Israel has breached the Genocide Convention that was passed in 1948 by the newly established United Nations.

The word genocide, and the convention that defined it as a crime, were directly inspired by the genocide of six million Jews by Nazi Germany.

The repot is compiled by international lawyers looking at proven facts and evidence.
Netanyahu (with 2 others) is also accused of incitement by comparing the Gaza war to the story of the Jewish fight against an enemy known as Amalek. In the bible God tells the Jewish people to eliminate all the Amalek men, women and children, as well as their possessions and their animals.
All humanitarian charities have called it Genocide. Even religious organisations like the Quakers.
But Israel says its all Hamas propoganda and sloppy reporting! …. Blah blah blah…… So thats ok then? Carry on killing innocent people and the USA will still support you!!

Re: UPDATED: ISRAELS MASSACRE OF INNOCENT PALESTINIANS CONTI

Tue Sep 16, 2025 6:15 pm

Lengee wrote:For me the killing of 20,000 innocent children was evidence enough of genocide.
BUT Today, the new UN report is detailed and damning, presenting evidence it says shows that Israel is committing genocide in Gaza. It states that Israel has breached the Genocide Convention that was passed in 1948 by the newly established United Nations.

The word genocide, and the convention that defined it as a crime, were directly inspired by the genocide of six million Jews by Nazi Germany.

The repot is compiled by international lawyers looking at proven facts and evidence.
Netanyahu (with 2 others) is also accused of incitement by comparing the Gaza war to the story of the Jewish fight against an enemy known as Amalek. In the bible God tells the Jewish people to eliminate all the Amalek men, women and children, as well as their possessions and their animals.
All humanitarian charities have called it Genocide. Even religious organisations like the Quakers.
But Israel says its all Hamas propoganda and sloppy reporting! …. Blah blah blah…… So thats ok then? Carry on killing innocent people and the USA will still support you!!



No matter how many experts or organisations call it murder genocide ect as long as proper punitive action is not taken they will carry-on until 100% of gaza is rubble and 2m people are crammed into a couple square miles of land before being forced out! The Arab nations met and decided nothing literally nothing despite all the rhetoric after Qatar
Attack.... so expect Israel to take out hamas in Qatar then Turkey and other countries that have hamas in them because they know now that everyone is scared of them and usa... the world should be totally ashamed of their inaction at all the genocide taking place in gaza Sudan and other places at this time..
Netanyahu and the rest of the murdering scum are laughing their arses off at the Arabs and eu.

Re: UPDATED: ISRAELS MASSACRE OF INNOCENT PALESTINIANS CONTI

Wed Sep 17, 2025 7:32 pm

Lengee wrote:For me the killing of 20,000 innocent children was evidence enough of genocide.
BUT Today, the new UN report is detailed and damning, presenting evidence it says shows that Israel is committing genocide in Gaza. It states that Israel has breached the Genocide Convention that was passed in 1948 by the newly established United Nations.

The word genocide, and the convention that defined it as a crime, were directly inspired by the genocide of six million Jews by Nazi Germany.

The repot is compiled by international lawyers looking at proven facts and evidence.
Netanyahu (with 2 others) is also accused of incitement by comparing the Gaza war to the story of the Jewish fight against an enemy known as Amalek. In the bible God tells the Jewish people to eliminate all the Amalek men, women and children, as well as their possessions and their animals.
All humanitarian charities have called it Genocide. Even religious organisations like the Quakers.
But Israel says its all Hamas propoganda and sloppy reporting! …. Blah blah blah…… So thats ok then? Carry on killing innocent people and the USA will still support you!!


Well EU won't be doing anything as the sanctions they are proposing needs a certain majority and due to Germany amongst others not supporting anything Eu want to do everything will fail! gutless politicians the lot of them....
But more and more countries are taking action against Israel except of course Hungary Germany Austria still haven't got over the war!!

Re: UPDATED: ISRAELS MASSACRE OF INNOCENT PALESTINIANS CONTI

Thu Sep 18, 2025 6:07 pm

I abhor what’s going on in Gaza and what Israel have done is diabolical.

However, there have been more deaths in Yemen. Where’s the outrage for that human tragedy borderline genocide?

Re: UPDATED: ISRAELS MASSACRE OF INNOCENT PALESTINIANS CONTI

Thu Sep 18, 2025 7:29 pm

maccydee wrote:I abhor what’s going on in Gaza and what Israel have done is diabolical.

However, there have been more deaths in Yemen. Where’s the outrage for that human tragedy borderline genocide?



Sudan the same but it is indicative of what's happening that no-one is doing fck all to stop what's happening when they can! It's there in black and white what's happening and all get is politicians and agencies mouthing off how wrong it is then sitting down wringing their hands of the situation..... what's happened as changed international law for ever as now armies will use the Israeli definition of what they're doing as rationale for genocide and murder...trump is already riding roughshod all over international law so if they're doing it why not us can hear countries saying.

Re: UPDATED: ISRAELS MASSACRE OF INNOCENT PALESTINIANS CONTI

Thu Sep 18, 2025 7:36 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
maccydee wrote:I abhor what’s going on in Gaza and what Israel have done is diabolical.

However, there have been more deaths in Yemen. Where’s the outrage for that human tragedy borderline genocide?



Sudan the same but it is indicative of what's happening that no-one is doing fck all to stop what's happening when they can! It's there in black and white what's happening and all get is politicians and agencies mouthing off how wrong it is then sitting down wringing their hands of the situation..... what's happened as changed international law for ever as now armies will use the Israeli definition of what they're doing as rationale for genocide and murder...trump is already riding roughshod all over international law so if they're doing it why not us can hear countries saying.


That’s the problem.

Too many people are clearly anti semetic and this is an opportunity to Jew bash.

There is a clear delineation here. It’s Israel who are the Wankers not Jews.

Re: UPDATED: ISRAELS MASSACRE OF INNOCENT PALESTINIANS CONTI

Thu Sep 18, 2025 8:53 pm

maccydee wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
maccydee wrote:I abhor what’s going on in Gaza and what Israel have done is diabolical.

However, there have been more deaths in Yemen. Where’s the outrage for that human tragedy borderline genocide?



Sudan the same but it is indicative of what's happening that no-one is doing fck all to stop what's happening when they can! It's there in black and white what's happening and all get is politicians and agencies mouthing off how wrong it is then sitting down wringing their hands of the situation..... what's happened as changed international law for ever as now armies will use the Israeli definition of what they're doing as rationale for genocide and murder...trump is already riding roughshod all over international law so if they're doing it why not us can hear countries saying.


That’s the problem.

Too many people are clearly anti semetic and this is an opportunity to Jew bash.

There is a clear delineation here. It’s Israel who are the Wankers not Jews.



Another problem as soon as Israel is criticised or someone does something against them Netanyahu and his cronies shout antisemitic when it's Israel thats being sanctioned... so they're trying to say you can't do anything against us because we are protected because of our race! Why is it that anything levelled at them its others fault not once have they owned up to any atrocities ... genocide as been levelled at them from world leaders on the subject and other experts ..there are 5 points of reference to say genocide is being committed only needs one to call it that ! They proved 4 points yet israel accused experts of being hamas proxies as do with anyone speaking out against them....... i have read enough articles from Israeli and international journalists to know that there is a large portion of Israeli citizens who want Palestinians wiped out and removed from gaza "Eg settlers" so no wonder there's no distinction between being Israeli and being Jewish ..

Re: UPDATED: ISRAELS MASSACRE OF INNOCENT PALESTINIANS CONTI

Thu Sep 18, 2025 9:21 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
maccydee wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
maccydee wrote:I abhor what’s going on in Gaza and what Israel have done is diabolical.

However, there have been more deaths in Yemen. Where’s the outrage for that human tragedy borderline genocide?



Sudan the same but it is indicative of what's happening that no-one is doing fck all to stop what's happening when they can! It's there in black and white what's happening and all get is politicians and agencies mouthing off how wrong it is then sitting down wringing their hands of the situation..... what's happened as changed international law for ever as now armies will use the Israeli definition of what they're doing as rationale for genocide and murder...trump is already riding roughshod all over international law so if they're doing it why not us can hear countries saying.


That’s the problem.

Too many people are clearly anti semetic and this is an opportunity to Jew bash.

There is a clear delineation here. It’s Israel who are the Wankers not Jews.



Another problem as soon as Israel is criticised or someone does something against them Netanyahu and his cronies shout antisemitic when it's Israel thats being sanctioned... so they're trying to say you can't do anything against us because we are protected because of our race! Why is it that anything levelled at them its others fault not once have they owned up to any atrocities ... genocide as been levelled at them from world leaders on the subject and other experts ..there are 5 points of reference to say genocide is being committed only needs one to call it that ! They proved 4 points yet israel accused experts of being hamas proxies as do with anyone speaking out against them....... i have read enough articles from Israeli and international journalists to know that there is a large portion of Israeli citizens who want Palestinians wiped out and removed from gaza "Eg settlers" so no wonder there's no distinction between being Israeli and being Jewish ..


Your last sentence is truly frightening.

Re: UPDATED: ISRAELS MASSACRE OF INNOCENT PALESTINIANS CONTI

Thu Sep 18, 2025 9:33 pm

maccydee wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
maccydee wrote:I abhor what’s going on in Gaza and what Israel have done is diabolical.

However, there have been more deaths in Yemen. Where’s the outrage for that human tragedy borderline genocide?



Sudan the same but it is indicative of what's happening that no-one is doing fck all to stop what's happening when they can! It's there in black and white what's happening and all get is politicians and agencies mouthing off how wrong it is then sitting down wringing their hands of the situation..... what's happened as changed international law for ever as now armies will use the Israeli definition of what they're doing as rationale for genocide and murder...trump is already riding roughshod all over international law so if they're doing it why not us can hear countries saying.


That’s the problem.

Too many people are clearly anti semetic and this is an opportunity to Jew bash.

There is a clear delineation here. It’s Israel who are the Wankers not Jews.


I have little knowledge on the Yemen, but I believe it is more of a trajic civil war and not ethnic cleansing. One side does not have the backing of the most powerful country in the world. However you are free to start a thread on the Yemen. Obviously, any mass killing is terrible tragic and sad.
As for Jew bashing…there has been delineation on here!.i am not anti semetic. Indeed some of my childhood musical “heroes” are Jews - Dylan Cohen Springstein. Neither am I particularly left wing or right.
I am unaware of Jew bashing on this thread. We have always said that it is Israel committing a terrible genocide. Not Jews. However, factually, it is Israeli Jews who are responsible. That is not the same as saying all Iraelis and certainly not saying all Jews.
Sadly, what is happening is closely linked with religion as Zionists believe that thousands of years ago this land was promised by God to the Jews as the chosen people. They have been mistreating and illegally stealing land from Palestine for years. Throwing families out of homes they have been in for centuries. . Their leaders have referred to Palestinians in sub human terms for years. Schools hospitals libraries etc demolished to obliterate Palestine and its culture
As their latest attack / atrocities intensify they not only ban international journalists (as from the outset) but also all phone lines are down. Its referred to as a war - the most one sided war in history? Or genocide? All impartiall bodies say the evidence clearly says GENOCIDE. Most countries in the world agree!!
I don’t think its anti semetic to criticise the slaughter of 20,000 children, and a conflict where 70% of deaths are women and children. ALL lives matter - Jewish Muslim Christian etc etc

Re: UPDATED: ISRAELS MASSACRE OF INNOCENT PALESTINIANS CONTI

Thu Sep 18, 2025 9:55 pm

Lengee wrote:
maccydee wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
maccydee wrote:I abhor what’s going on in Gaza and what Israel have done is diabolical.

However, there have been more deaths in Yemen. Where’s the outrage for that human tragedy borderline genocide?



Sudan the same but it is indicative of what's happening that no-one is doing fck all to stop what's happening when they can! It's there in black and white what's happening and all get is politicians and agencies mouthing off how wrong it is then sitting down wringing their hands of the situation..... what's happened as changed international law for ever as now armies will use the Israeli definition of what they're doing as rationale for genocide and murder...trump is already riding roughshod all over international law so if they're doing it why not us can hear countries saying.


That’s the problem.

Too many people are clearly anti semetic and this is an opportunity to Jew bash.

There is a clear delineation here. It’s Israel who are the Wankers not Jews.


I have little knowledge on the Yemen, but I believe it is more of a trajic civil war and not ethnic cleansing. One side does not have the backing of the most powerful country in the world. However you are free to start a thread on the Yemen. Obviously, any mass killing is terrible tragic and sad.
As for Jew bashing…there has been delineation on here!.i am not anti semetic. Indeed some of my childhood musical “heroes” are Jews - Dylan Cohen Springstein. Neither am I particularly left wing or right.
I am unaware of Jew bashing on this thread. We have always said that it is Israel committing a terrible genocide. Not Jews. However, factually, it is Israeli Jews who are responsible. That is not the same as saying all Iraelis and certainly not saying all Jews.
Sadly, what is happening is closely linked with religion as Zionists believe that thousands of years ago this land was promised by God to the Jews as the chosen people. They have been mistreating and illegally stealing land from Palestine for years. Throwing families out of homes they have been in for centuries. . Their leaders have referred to Palestinians in sub human terms for years. Schools hospitals libraries etc demolished to obliterate Palestine and its culture
As their latest attack / atrocities intensify they not only ban international journalists (as from the outset) but also all phone lines are down. Its referred to as a war - the most one sided war in history? Or genocide? All impartiall bodies say the evidence clearly says GENOCIDE. Most countries in the world agree!!
I don’t think its anti semetic to criticise the slaughter of 20,000 children, and a conflict where 70% of deaths are women and children. ALL lives matter - Jewish Muslim Christian etc etc



I am agreeing with you what I'm saying is Netanyahu and his cronies are using criticism of israels actions as being anti semitic .... and it's not surprising all Israelis are being painted with same brush when you hear what settlers and ordinary Israelis say about Palestinians . Theres been apartheid for many many years against them by majority of Israelis in Israel.... the genocide being performed in Sudan Yemen and gaza have a common denominator? The ones performing it have been supported by other countries usa .... uae .....and another can't remember who! Musnt forget Israel supported hamas with many millions of $$$$ so bit rich to attack Qatar as supporters of hamas as they did in their rant other day... where will it all end? No idea but it won't until certain countries accept the war ended 80yrs ago and they owe Israel nothing! Its extremely easy to stop the atrocities in the 3 countries but no one will do it because of self interest

Re: UPDATED: ISRAELS MASSACRE OF INNOCENT PALESTINIANS CONTI

Mon Sep 22, 2025 9:10 pm

Israel's poodle usa again for 6th time refused to back a UN peace plan because Israel didn't like it! Even though every other nation said yes ..... and EU can't sanction Israel because Germany are still doing penance for what a mad man did 80yrs ago so won't back anything EU wants to do to Israel...

Today Israel have said it will take 9mnths to destroy gaza City but when finished or before that they will go back to central gaza and bomb it again regardless of fact its a safe zone with hundreds of thousands civilians there.... wish someone would drop a dirty bomb on Israel so they can see what it's like to be forced out of their country! Total low life of a country now!

Re: UPDATED: ISRAELS MASSACRE OF INNOCENT PALESTINIANS CONTI

Mon Sep 22, 2025 11:14 pm

pembroke allan wrote:Israel's poodle usa again for 6th time refused to back a UN peace plan because Israel didn't like it! Even though every other nation said yes ..... and EU can't sanction Israel because Germany are still doing penance for what a mad man did 80yrs ago so won't back anything EU wants to do to Israel...

Today Israel have said it will take 9mnths to destroy gaza City but when finished or before that they will go back to central gaza and bomb it again regardless of fact its a safe zone with hundreds of thousands civilians there.... wish someone would drop a dirty bomb on Israel so they can see what it's like to be forced out of their country! Total low life of a country now!


Alan, I get that you're angry but I don't think it's right to paint the whole country with the same brush in just the same way as it's not right to paint all Palestinians with the HAMAs brush. We all know who the real issue is.

Re: UPDATED: ISRAELS MASSACRE OF INNOCENT PALESTINIANS CONTI

Tue Sep 23, 2025 10:05 am

Welshman in CA wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Israel's poodle usa again for 6th time refused to back a UN peace plan because Israel didn't like it! Even though every other nation said yes ..... and EU can't sanction Israel because Germany are still doing penance for what a mad man did 80yrs ago so won't back anything EU wants to do to Israel...

Today Israel have said it will take 9mnths to destroy gaza City but when finished or before that they will go back to central gaza and bomb it again regardless of fact its a safe zone with hundreds of thousands civilians there.... wish someone would drop a dirty bomb on Israel so they can see what it's like to be forced out of their country! Total low life of a country now!


Alan, I get that you're angry but I don't think it's right to paint the whole country with the same brush in just the same way as it's not right to paint all Palestinians with the HAMAs brush. We all know who the real issue is.



Yes we do but recent survey says 70% of Israelis agree with Netanyahu's stance... ..there maybe protests in Israel but they're no more than what is being said by starmer Macron ect all words no action if they wanted to they can force Netanyahu's to come to negotiating table but ghey don't want it ... personally don't like Israelis dealt with them for years in Cardiff worst people to deal with and dealt with all the different nationalities that live in Cardiff ... but your right shouldn't tar all same and I have had strong words about trump starmer and everyone else who can stop this horror but choose not too! Can you think of any other country that influences so many countries by having their nationals in prominent positions as to stop that country from taking action against it? Usa classic example ... but anyway fact is Israel will never be safer if persist in alienating their Arab neighbours by ethnically cleansing gaza to build holiday resorts .

Re: UPDATED: ISRAELS MASSACRE OF INNOCENT PALESTINIANS CONTI

Tue Sep 23, 2025 11:19 am

Israel’s Government are the Main Problem:

The lies they tell the world are unbelievable:

But also their are main in Israel that are backing the Massacres of the Palestinians plus many in the American Government are also backing all this.

I will state this more than Strongly, after what happened to them with Nazi Germany they are just as bad, in fact even Worse to do this after what happened to them and yet they seem so Proud.

For me Israel has become an Evil Country and are not just Murdering Muslims, but Christians, Catholics anyone but Jews.

They Now Say:

“THEY ARE THE CHOSEN PEOPLE”

They care only for themselves and don’t care that their Nazi IDF have Massacred /Raped /Burnt Alive 20,000 Plus Palestinian Children

Re: UPDATED: ISRAELS MASSACRE OF INNOCENT PALESTINIANS CONTI

Wed Sep 24, 2025 7:30 pm

Another 9 children murdered by the worlds most moral army! :banghead: excuse from idf we were after hamas personnel and tried to minimise civilian casualties? Lying bstads Netanyahu and his 2 stooges should be put against the wailing wall and shot! :twisted:

Re: UPDATED: ISRAELS MASSACRE OF INNOCENT PALESTINIANS CONTI

Thu Sep 25, 2025 11:02 am

Growing calls for Israel and its clubs be thrown out of football are growing but while uefa may ban clubs undoubtedly fifa will not ban Israel from WC as usa already saying they'll resist such a move and as we know infantino is so far up Donald ducks arse he can see his tonsils ... so expect fifa doing sfa.

Re: UPDATED: ISRAELS MASSACRE OF INNOCENT PALESTINIANS CONTI

Mon Sep 29, 2025 7:50 pm

Netanyahu as agreed a 20 point peace plan? Basically it means hamas being thrown out of gaza, an interim authority to run gaza with various people leading it including wmd Blair! Deal includes release of all hostages in return hundreds of Palestinians be released full aid package reinstated, no anex of West Bank faised withdrawl of troops
Eventually leading to a Palestinian state ....... as with everything the devil is in the detail when it becomes clear what it actually means for Palestinian people? Freedom to govern themselves or the status quo with Israel suppressing Palestinians as they've been doing for countless years.. controlling where they go when they can travel ect ect

Re: UPDATED: ISRAELS MASSACRE OF INNOCENT PALESTINIANS CONTI

Mon Sep 29, 2025 8:04 pm

pembroke allan wrote:Netanyahu as agreed a 20 point peace plan? Basically it means hamas being thrown out of gaza, an interim authority to run gaza with various people leading it including wmd Blair! Deal includes release of all hostages in return hundreds of Palestinians be released full aid package reinstated, no anex of West Bank faised withdrawl of troops
Eventually leading to a Palestinian state ....... as with everything the devil is in the detail when it becomes clear what it actually means for Palestinian people? Freedom to govern themselves or the status quo with Israel suppressing Palestinians as they've been doing for countless years.. controlling where they go when they can travel ect ect


It's good that Tony is involved. That encourages me, I'm a big fan of him and always have been.

But Netanyahu wouldn't agree to anything that gives any sort of equality to Gaza so if it succeeds then can't see it improving much other than stopping the war.

And we know that the US will just do all they can to help Israel, that's not just a Trump thing. It was the same with Biden if on a lower scale.

Re: UPDATED: ISRAELS MASSACRE OF INNOCENT PALESTINIANS CONTI

Mon Sep 29, 2025 9:47 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Netanyahu as agreed a 20 point peace plan? Basically it means hamas being thrown out of gaza, an interim authority to run gaza with various people leading it including wmd Blair! Deal includes release of all hostages in return hundreds of Palestinians be released full aid package reinstated, no anex of West Bank faised withdrawl of troops
Eventually leading to a Palestinian state ....... as with everything the devil is in the detail when it becomes clear what it actually means for Palestinian people? Freedom to govern themselves or the status quo with Israel suppressing Palestinians as they've been doing for countless years.. controlling where they go when they can travel ect ect


It's good that Tony is involved. That encourages me, I'm a big fan of him and always have been.

But Netanyahu wouldn't agree to anything that gives any sort of equality to Gaza so if it succeeds then can't see it improving much other than stopping the war.

And we know that the US will just do all they can to help Israel, that's not just a Trump thing. It was the same with Biden if on a lower scale.



Blair is not a popular person in the area that's fo sure! I have my doubts about israels ultimate aims whilst Palestinians may ultimately get their land back how much autonomy they'll have is open to question given Israel's control over the Palestinian people.... the middle east countries are primarily on board with the plan but can see problems down the line when Israel start putting obstacles and excuses for stopping Palestinians from ability to self govern... meanwhile Netanyahu is on very shaky ground at home as his right wing coalition are not that happy with amongst other things an apology he gave Qatar!

Re: UPDATED: ISRAELS MASSACRE OF INNOCENT PALESTINIANS CONTI

Tue Sep 30, 2025 1:29 pm

Well that didn't last long? No Palestinian state and will still be under Jack boot of idf for ever and will lose west bank to illegal settlements... had to be to good to be true..... this treaty is stacked so that Netanyahu can still attack civilians at his whim.... more freedom in a straight jacket.

Re: UPDATED: ISRAELS MASSACRE OF INNOCENT PALESTINIANS CONTI

Wed Oct 01, 2025 5:13 pm

Nothing changes IDF and Netanyahu threatening to kill all the civilians left in gaza City calling them terrorists if they don't evacuate the city immediately! Despite fact they can't leave as no means to do so...according to IDF 6ook have left but this is over stated there's far more left in city so will IDF "murder" several hundred thousand civilians on pretence they're terrorists? And that scumbag Netanyahu wants impunity from icc action as a war criminal as part of so called peace deal? I would put him against wailing wall and blow his brains out and not lose any sleep ..

Re: UPDATED: ISRAELS MASSACRE OF INNOCENT PALESTINIANS CONTI

Thu Oct 02, 2025 9:35 am

This situation only moves on if Hamas is eradicated. There is no one who can say that Hamas is a positive. However a definitive and robust security solution must be offered for protection of civilians. That has to be something that can fight back against the IDF if needed and should involved American peacekeepers to truly ensure it is lasting.

Donald Trump being linked to the follow on solution has to be a good thing as his ego will dictate it has to work. Tony Blair is widely respected in America so that will also help.

There’s a lot of big names putting their weight behind this. Make no bones about it. Netanyahu will not be happy with this solution as he has made it clear what he wants. His very right wing coalition partners will also be unhappy with it.

Re: UPDATED: ISRAELS MASSACRE OF INNOCENT PALESTINIANS CONTI

Thu Oct 02, 2025 11:27 am

maccydee wrote:This situation only moves on if Hamas is eradicated. There is no one who can say that Hamas is a positive. However a definitive and robust security solution must be offered for protection of civilians. That has to be something that can fight back against the IDF if needed and should involved American peacekeepers to truly ensure it is lasting.

Donald Trump being linked to the follow on solution has to be a good thing as his ego will dictate it has to work. Tony Blair is widely respected in America so that will also help.

There’s a lot of big names putting their weight behind this. Make no bones about it. Netanyahu will not be happy with this solution as he has made it clear what he wants. His very right wing coalition partners will also be unhappy with it.



Yes hamas (the terrorists) needs to forced out but must remember yberes a pitiful dude to them and there's Palestinian authority as well ... as for Blair need to look at his history in middle east he did dirty on Palestinian authority and hamas when he was supposed to be their advocate in peace talks in fact its because of that there was no peace agreement which lead to israels occupation and takeover of gaza this goes back many years ago.... what about the Palestinian state? Netanyahu explicitly states there will be no palistinian state and that means the status quo of IDF control no movement no autonomy for the people so what's point of this plan? Everybody agree it's good simply because means they can wash their hands of the problem until problem re survices somewhere down line! Netanyahu wanted immunity from his war crimes as part of deal this deal is a very one sided deal which was put together by Netanyahu if you believe what's been said.