Tue Sep 09, 2025 6:10 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Lengee wrote:Israels actions are, once again, indefencible.
We MUST stop supplying parts for F35 jets being used to slaughter children and innocent citizens in Gaza. Meanwhile our govt is more concerned with arresting people carrying support Palestine Action posters. You couldnt make it up!!
Israel have committed a terrible genocide and now their actions in Qatar risk a wider regional war. Dangerous times.
Today UK said there is no genocide in gaza ... starmer as no intention of banning anything he's allowing them to sell arms at an arms fair soon and their president is due to see him tomorrow in London ...
Doesn't sound like he's concerned one bit as to israels destruction of gaza City.... and for 2nd time Netanyahu as destroyed peace talks when nearly sorted. He's a war criminal and should be labelled as such
Tue Sep 09, 2025 9:48 pm
Wed Sep 10, 2025 7:50 pm
Wed Sep 10, 2025 8:46 pm
Wed Sep 10, 2025 9:16 pm
worcester_ccfc wrote:Gary Lineker won the Best Presenter award at the National Television Awards tonight, ending the 23 year winning run for Ant and Dec.
Probably mostly down to his support of Gaza.
Thu Sep 11, 2025 2:18 pm
Thu Sep 11, 2025 3:26 pm
worcester_ccfc wrote:RTE, which is the Eurovision broadcaster for Ireland, has said they will not have Ireland take part in next year's competition if Israel are allowed to participate.
The broadcasters for Slovenia and Spain have said similar.
Tue Sep 16, 2025 6:00 pm
Tue Sep 16, 2025 6:15 pm
Lengee wrote:For me the killing of 20,000 innocent children was evidence enough of genocide.
BUT Today, the new UN report is detailed and damning, presenting evidence it says shows that Israel is committing genocide in Gaza. It states that Israel has breached the Genocide Convention that was passed in 1948 by the newly established United Nations.
The word genocide, and the convention that defined it as a crime, were directly inspired by the genocide of six million Jews by Nazi Germany.
The repot is compiled by international lawyers looking at proven facts and evidence.
Netanyahu (with 2 others) is also accused of incitement by comparing the Gaza war to the story of the Jewish fight against an enemy known as Amalek. In the bible God tells the Jewish people to eliminate all the Amalek men, women and children, as well as their possessions and their animals.
All humanitarian charities have called it Genocide. Even religious organisations like the Quakers.
But Israel says its all Hamas propoganda and sloppy reporting! …. Blah blah blah…… So thats ok then? Carry on killing innocent people and the USA will still support you!!
Wed Sep 17, 2025 7:32 pm
Lengee wrote:For me the killing of 20,000 innocent children was evidence enough of genocide.
BUT Today, the new UN report is detailed and damning, presenting evidence it says shows that Israel is committing genocide in Gaza. It states that Israel has breached the Genocide Convention that was passed in 1948 by the newly established United Nations.
The word genocide, and the convention that defined it as a crime, were directly inspired by the genocide of six million Jews by Nazi Germany.
The repot is compiled by international lawyers looking at proven facts and evidence.
Netanyahu (with 2 others) is also accused of incitement by comparing the Gaza war to the story of the Jewish fight against an enemy known as Amalek. In the bible God tells the Jewish people to eliminate all the Amalek men, women and children, as well as their possessions and their animals.
All humanitarian charities have called it Genocide. Even religious organisations like the Quakers.
But Israel says its all Hamas propoganda and sloppy reporting! …. Blah blah blah…… So thats ok then? Carry on killing innocent people and the USA will still support you!!
Thu Sep 18, 2025 6:07 pm
Thu Sep 18, 2025 7:29 pm
maccydee wrote:I abhor what’s going on in Gaza and what Israel have done is diabolical.
However, there have been more deaths in Yemen. Where’s the outrage for that human tragedy borderline genocide?
Thu Sep 18, 2025 7:36 pm
pembroke allan wrote:maccydee wrote:I abhor what’s going on in Gaza and what Israel have done is diabolical.
However, there have been more deaths in Yemen. Where’s the outrage for that human tragedy borderline genocide?
Sudan the same but it is indicative of what's happening that no-one is doing fck all to stop what's happening when they can! It's there in black and white what's happening and all get is politicians and agencies mouthing off how wrong it is then sitting down wringing their hands of the situation..... what's happened as changed international law for ever as now armies will use the Israeli definition of what they're doing as rationale for genocide and murder...trump is already riding roughshod all over international law so if they're doing it why not us can hear countries saying.
Thu Sep 18, 2025 8:53 pm
maccydee wrote:pembroke allan wrote:maccydee wrote:I abhor what’s going on in Gaza and what Israel have done is diabolical.
However, there have been more deaths in Yemen. Where’s the outrage for that human tragedy borderline genocide?
Sudan the same but it is indicative of what's happening that no-one is doing fck all to stop what's happening when they can! It's there in black and white what's happening and all get is politicians and agencies mouthing off how wrong it is then sitting down wringing their hands of the situation..... what's happened as changed international law for ever as now armies will use the Israeli definition of what they're doing as rationale for genocide and murder...trump is already riding roughshod all over international law so if they're doing it why not us can hear countries saying.
That’s the problem.
Too many people are clearly anti semetic and this is an opportunity to Jew bash.
There is a clear delineation here. It’s Israel who are the Wankers not Jews.
Thu Sep 18, 2025 9:21 pm
pembroke allan wrote:maccydee wrote:pembroke allan wrote:maccydee wrote:I abhor what’s going on in Gaza and what Israel have done is diabolical.
However, there have been more deaths in Yemen. Where’s the outrage for that human tragedy borderline genocide?
Sudan the same but it is indicative of what's happening that no-one is doing fck all to stop what's happening when they can! It's there in black and white what's happening and all get is politicians and agencies mouthing off how wrong it is then sitting down wringing their hands of the situation..... what's happened as changed international law for ever as now armies will use the Israeli definition of what they're doing as rationale for genocide and murder...trump is already riding roughshod all over international law so if they're doing it why not us can hear countries saying.
That’s the problem.
Too many people are clearly anti semetic and this is an opportunity to Jew bash.
There is a clear delineation here. It’s Israel who are the Wankers not Jews.
Another problem as soon as Israel is criticised or someone does something against them Netanyahu and his cronies shout antisemitic when it's Israel thats being sanctioned... so they're trying to say you can't do anything against us because we are protected because of our race! Why is it that anything levelled at them its others fault not once have they owned up to any atrocities ... genocide as been levelled at them from world leaders on the subject and other experts ..there are 5 points of reference to say genocide is being committed only needs one to call it that ! They proved 4 points yet israel accused experts of being hamas proxies as do with anyone speaking out against them....... i have read enough articles from Israeli and international journalists to know that there is a large portion of Israeli citizens who want Palestinians wiped out and removed from gaza "Eg settlers" so no wonder there's no distinction between being Israeli and being Jewish ..
Thu Sep 18, 2025 9:33 pm
maccydee wrote:pembroke allan wrote:maccydee wrote:I abhor what’s going on in Gaza and what Israel have done is diabolical.
However, there have been more deaths in Yemen. Where’s the outrage for that human tragedy borderline genocide?
Sudan the same but it is indicative of what's happening that no-one is doing fck all to stop what's happening when they can! It's there in black and white what's happening and all get is politicians and agencies mouthing off how wrong it is then sitting down wringing their hands of the situation..... what's happened as changed international law for ever as now armies will use the Israeli definition of what they're doing as rationale for genocide and murder...trump is already riding roughshod all over international law so if they're doing it why not us can hear countries saying.
That’s the problem.
Too many people are clearly anti semetic and this is an opportunity to Jew bash.
There is a clear delineation here. It’s Israel who are the Wankers not Jews.
Thu Sep 18, 2025 9:55 pm
Lengee wrote:maccydee wrote:pembroke allan wrote:maccydee wrote:I abhor what’s going on in Gaza and what Israel have done is diabolical.
However, there have been more deaths in Yemen. Where’s the outrage for that human tragedy borderline genocide?
Sudan the same but it is indicative of what's happening that no-one is doing fck all to stop what's happening when they can! It's there in black and white what's happening and all get is politicians and agencies mouthing off how wrong it is then sitting down wringing their hands of the situation..... what's happened as changed international law for ever as now armies will use the Israeli definition of what they're doing as rationale for genocide and murder...trump is already riding roughshod all over international law so if they're doing it why not us can hear countries saying.
That’s the problem.
Too many people are clearly anti semetic and this is an opportunity to Jew bash.
There is a clear delineation here. It’s Israel who are the Wankers not Jews.
I have little knowledge on the Yemen, but I believe it is more of a trajic civil war and not ethnic cleansing. One side does not have the backing of the most powerful country in the world. However you are free to start a thread on the Yemen. Obviously, any mass killing is terrible tragic and sad.
As for Jew bashing…there has been delineation on here!.i am not anti semetic. Indeed some of my childhood musical “heroes” are Jews - Dylan Cohen Springstein. Neither am I particularly left wing or right.
I am unaware of Jew bashing on this thread. We have always said that it is Israel committing a terrible genocide. Not Jews. However, factually, it is Israeli Jews who are responsible. That is not the same as saying all Iraelis and certainly not saying all Jews.
Sadly, what is happening is closely linked with religion as Zionists believe that thousands of years ago this land was promised by God to the Jews as the chosen people. They have been mistreating and illegally stealing land from Palestine for years. Throwing families out of homes they have been in for centuries. . Their leaders have referred to Palestinians in sub human terms for years. Schools hospitals libraries etc demolished to obliterate Palestine and its culture
As their latest attack / atrocities intensify they not only ban international journalists (as from the outset) but also all phone lines are down. Its referred to as a war - the most one sided war in history? Or genocide? All impartiall bodies say the evidence clearly says GENOCIDE. Most countries in the world agree!!
I don’t think its anti semetic to criticise the slaughter of 20,000 children, and a conflict where 70% of deaths are women and children. ALL lives matter - Jewish Muslim Christian etc etc
Mon Sep 22, 2025 9:10 pm
Mon Sep 22, 2025 11:14 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Israel's poodle usa again for 6th time refused to back a UN peace plan because Israel didn't like it! Even though every other nation said yes ..... and EU can't sanction Israel because Germany are still doing penance for what a mad man did 80yrs ago so won't back anything EU wants to do to Israel...
Today Israel have said it will take 9mnths to destroy gaza City but when finished or before that they will go back to central gaza and bomb it again regardless of fact its a safe zone with hundreds of thousands civilians there.... wish someone would drop a dirty bomb on Israel so they can see what it's like to be forced out of their country! Total low life of a country now!
Tue Sep 23, 2025 10:05 am
Welshman in CA wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Israel's poodle usa again for 6th time refused to back a UN peace plan because Israel didn't like it! Even though every other nation said yes ..... and EU can't sanction Israel because Germany are still doing penance for what a mad man did 80yrs ago so won't back anything EU wants to do to Israel...
Today Israel have said it will take 9mnths to destroy gaza City but when finished or before that they will go back to central gaza and bomb it again regardless of fact its a safe zone with hundreds of thousands civilians there.... wish someone would drop a dirty bomb on Israel so they can see what it's like to be forced out of their country! Total low life of a country now!
Alan, I get that you're angry but I don't think it's right to paint the whole country with the same brush in just the same way as it's not right to paint all Palestinians with the HAMAs brush. We all know who the real issue is.
Tue Sep 23, 2025 11:19 am
Wed Sep 24, 2025 7:30 pm
excuse from idf we were after hamas personnel and tried to minimise civilian casualties? Lying bstads Netanyahu and his 2 stooges should be put against the wailing wall and shot! Thu Sep 25, 2025 11:02 am
Mon Sep 29, 2025 7:50 pm
Mon Sep 29, 2025 8:04 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Netanyahu as agreed a 20 point peace plan? Basically it means hamas being thrown out of gaza, an interim authority to run gaza with various people leading it including wmd Blair! Deal includes release of all hostages in return hundreds of Palestinians be released full aid package reinstated, no anex of West Bank faised withdrawl of troops
Eventually leading to a Palestinian state ....... as with everything the devil is in the detail when it becomes clear what it actually means for Palestinian people? Freedom to govern themselves or the status quo with Israel suppressing Palestinians as they've been doing for countless years.. controlling where they go when they can travel ect ect
Mon Sep 29, 2025 9:47 pm
worcester_ccfc wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Netanyahu as agreed a 20 point peace plan? Basically it means hamas being thrown out of gaza, an interim authority to run gaza with various people leading it including wmd Blair! Deal includes release of all hostages in return hundreds of Palestinians be released full aid package reinstated, no anex of West Bank faised withdrawl of troops
Eventually leading to a Palestinian state ....... as with everything the devil is in the detail when it becomes clear what it actually means for Palestinian people? Freedom to govern themselves or the status quo with Israel suppressing Palestinians as they've been doing for countless years.. controlling where they go when they can travel ect ect
It's good that Tony is involved. That encourages me, I'm a big fan of him and always have been.
But Netanyahu wouldn't agree to anything that gives any sort of equality to Gaza so if it succeeds then can't see it improving much other than stopping the war.
And we know that the US will just do all they can to help Israel, that's not just a Trump thing. It was the same with Biden if on a lower scale.
Tue Sep 30, 2025 1:29 pm
Wed Oct 01, 2025 5:13 pm
Thu Oct 02, 2025 9:35 am
Thu Oct 02, 2025 11:27 am
maccydee wrote:This situation only moves on if Hamas is eradicated. There is no one who can say that Hamas is a positive. However a definitive and robust security solution must be offered for protection of civilians. That has to be something that can fight back against the IDF if needed and should involved American peacekeepers to truly ensure it is lasting.
Donald Trump being linked to the follow on solution has to be a good thing as his ego will dictate it has to work. Tony Blair is widely respected in America so that will also help.
There’s a lot of big names putting their weight behind this. Make no bones about it. Netanyahu will not be happy with this solution as he has made it clear what he wants. His very right wing coalition partners will also be unhappy with it.