OT: Henry Nowak handcuffing?

Sludge, I do not like for Annis to lose any board members, but really, why dont you join a political forum, instead of a football one, but i guess you have already done that, Then there is always Mikes message board , or is that not possible? has he banned you.?
This is a football forum, and political stuff does come up quite a lot, but lets be honest, you politicalise everythying. When I was on Mikes board you were exactly the same. Have they had enough of you over there ?

I cant remember you on mikes board

Same username as here or maybe 1gov / Igov long time ago so cant really remember that far back!

I don't pretend to know a huge amount about this case, but what it has highlighted perfectly is how a tragic news event like this can be used...in my opinion (and that's only what it is)...to keep this right-left, black-white, conservative-liberal narrative from playing out. Meaning that the general public are so busy attacking each other that they forget about holding the real criminals to account i.e those in power who continue to lie, steal and manipulate events large and small to further their agenda.

Rather than attacking each other, maybe we should all take a stand back and take a look at the complete shower we have as a government and political class in this country and hold them to account as much as we do each other.

And before anyone asks, no I don't vote. The problem with voting is the government still get in no matter what.

Well said

I'm a non voter too and I agree with everything you said

Sludge, I do not like for Annis to lose any board members, but really, why dont you join a political forum, instead of a football one, but i guess you have already done that, Then there is always Mikes message board , or is that not possible? has he banned you.?
This is a football forum, and political stuff does come up quite a lot, but lets be honest, you politicalise everythying. When I was on Mikes board you were exactly the same. Have they had enough of you over there ?

I cant remember you on mikes board

That’s a (poor) politicians response, which simply deflects from the point made

You were seemingly kicked off Mike’s Board for being you, so you are now infesting this one with your narrow self-opinionated views and foul responses to those who dare to think differently

You have ruined another thread that had meaning when it started and all so you can hear the sound of your own voice!

Truly embarrassing; or at least it would be, if you had any self-awareness!

If people are going to post incorrect opinions and pass them off as facts then its perfectly reasonable to call them out

Thats initially what I tend to do but when one gets called a lefty etc etc its diffucult to debate sensibly so there you go

I am not interested in arguing between boards , I know several post over there from here using different names but I cant remember you

It’s not the debate or the differences of opinion that matters. It’s the way you conduct yourself and your offensive tone; and let’s not forget the series of ‘Thicko!’ pm’s you bombarded me with after your last explosion

Let’s set the record straight here; I have NEVER been on Mike’s Board, but I know some who are, and they warned me about your ‘character’ on there when you started to become regular on here

Sadly, your reputation for being an intolerant, intransigent, abusive individual proceeds you!

Sludge has nailed it perfectly.
No amount of counter arguing is going to succeed in this matter. The far right always hijack tragic situations like this and use it for their own filthy agendas.

So was the killing of violent, misogynist, drug addict George Floyd , hijacked by the far left?

Spot on with the use of "far " . Far right and far left are two sides of the same coin. Extremists.
I am a centrist , a pragmatist , I abhor extreme political views , the far right use violence to achieve their ends , the far left use gaslighting and passive aggression to achieve theirs.
Both are noisy , both are wrong.

I’ve long maintained right wing /left wing was a meaningless false dichotomy. However we’re in the era of simple politics, for simple people. Nuance has gone and the choice now is cuddly virtuous left, or Fascist. I don’t agree all the violence comes from the (supposed) right. Those who claim leftwing credentials are often violent, they are however policed more leniently.
Ultimately I think we’re all being played by the globalist New World Order, a divided population is easier to control and manipulate.

Sludge has nailed it perfectly.
No amount of counter arguing is going to succeed in this matter. The far right always hijack tragic situations like this and use it for their own filthy agendas.

Is that what you call nailing something perfectly?
You have two people at the crime scene one lying on the floor with an obvious stab wound to his face and three other wounds not so obvious but the person on the floor is saying he's been stabbed four times, he's also claiming he can't breathe. Then you have the other person appearing unharmed with no obvious injuries standing over the prone person claiming that his turban was knocked off his head and he'd been racially verbally abused by the prone person on the floor.
My first thoughts would be that obviously the person on the floor had been assaulted using a bladed article (face injury) and almost certainly the person standing above him was the one who had committed the attack.
Any normal person would come to that conclusion as in say if it was a drink related altercation, people would almost certainly come to the conclusion that they had a disagreement and one man had used a bladed article (which we all know is a serious offence) and the other was a victim of that attack.. pretty obvious isn't it?
So why would the police disbelieve the man on the floor? What would make them disbelieve something so obvious?
My take on it is that the police have been trained to put racial accusations as more important than anything else..maybe worth a read of their policy on policing so called racial accusations. This govt is pushing the narrative and the upper echelons of the police (amongst many other organisations) are involved in this woke nonsense.. mostly Fabian based.
The man was dying as it was then the police probably accelerated that outcome by handcuffing him and dragging his dying body across the gravel.
Surely you I and any sane person would refrain from handcuffing someone whose obviously in serious difficulties with very bad injuries and is incapable of being a problem or nuisance to them and maybe handcuffing the person standing over the prone person would be more appropriate.
Big call out to Sludge for his enlightening contributions to this debate.

The coppers were utter gash but I disagree , from what we know , that racial training caused them to behave so badly

This poor kid lost his life because the coppers were possibly criminally negligent

I hope they get done

Sludge you have very strong political leanings which you pursue with enthusiasm but when I see all the left wing protesters they chant the same things every time.
Most people know that these counter protests are paid for by Unite the Union and another counter progressive organisation the name of which I cannot recall.
Police, Civil Service, Universities, Schools, Judiciary, Mainstream media, Banks and many others are on the 'woke' agenda and are sponsored by the WEF in Davos and all these institutions have Fabians as the heads of their organisations.. interesting read as to their intentions and values, wolf in sheep's clothing was their motto as you are probably aware being politically savvy.
Their influence runs deep and without a shadow of a doubt this influence caused this situation to occur.
Like I said in my previous post why would you handcuff the person on the floor with a bleeding face and not the person standing over him? Can you tell me the thinking behind this?

Cup of cold sick Sludge.

Your worthless witterings are invariably so pathetic as not to even warrant thinking about a response. However, on this occasion as you’ve diminished the terrible death of a young man which, in itself, let alone the circumstances and deeper background should deeply concern us all I will venture some comments.

If you had given this matter some though you might have acknowledged that Henry Nowak was just the latest in a line of Britons murdered under similar circumstances with no justification whatsoever. Observable, provable fact. Pure coincidence?

No connections with drugs, turf wars, gangs, inter-ethnic politics or any of those things. Just being there.

It is also a fact that Hampshire Police through two of their women high-ups recently instituted anti-Racist programmes throughout the Force which it is difficult to believe did not impact upon the disgraceful behaviour of the police at the scene.

Police are allegedly required to ‘believe’ any accusation of ‘racism’ with no evidence whatsoever. If true is that reasonable?

In this case they had been told in the 999 call that someone had been stabbed and at the scene, Henry was bleeding from several wounds.

I believe it is also a reported fact that the Police confiscated the phones of Henry and his father to search for ‘racist’ comments.

Strangely, Mr Novak was not it appears, notified of Henrys’ death until 24 hrs after the event. Strange that. Wonder why?

There are incredible double standards in force as the State and its lackeys throughout politics, the media and of course the Police double, down on the imposition and enforcement of policies which we are not allowed to criticise.

And of course, there are the useful idiots who go along with it all. Perhaps because they want to feel good and are can’t think outside the approved herd mentality. the younger ones have a sort of excuse in that they've been conditioned in school and through media. People like you, not so much. No excuse at all.

None are so blind that will not see.

Two-tier Kier and the two-tier justice system is a description that is denied but thoughtful observers can work out for themselves whether this is a reality. Don’t forget, in ‘1984’ Orwell wrote of the State’s first and most important command, which was ‘to ignore the evidence of your own eyes.’

Are we simply to accept this state of affairs continuing and inevitably worsening?

From elsewhere:

‘Henry Nowak’s murder, the complicity of the murderer’s family and the refusal of police officers was political. Without the anti-white double standards that govern our current moral order, Henry would still be alive. But as ever, the problem is neither thy problem itself nor those importing the problem The problem is that too many of us are now noticing and trying to address the problem. We refuse any longer to tolerate a situation in which savage attacks on whites are at best a ‘tragedy’ while the merest discomfort -let alone the murder of (one of) any other group is treated as a moral emergency.’

Not talking about this problem doesn't make it go away. It simply defers the time of reckoning which must come.

To end, I’ll bet neither Henry’s mother or father are given a seat in the House of Lords.

Excellent post
Hampshire police guidance is all about tackling imaginary racism and prioritising anyone who’s not white. You’d have thought the exposure of industrial scale rape of British children, by predominantly Pakistani men, which was ignored,for the sake of social cohesion, would have ended this. Sadly not, the long march through the institutions is almost complete and all our public bodies are riddled with the social cancer of DEI and equity.
It shows the scale of two tier policing in this country, when Lucy Connolly was jailed for a tweet. While a serving politician, who advocated cutting the throats of anyone with a different view, walked free.

Thats more nonsense

Lucy Connolly admitted her guilt

The councillor in london pleaded not guilty , went to trial and was found not guilty

Thats the court process we have and was the decision of the jury , it wasnt two tier policing , absolute rubbish

The vile low IQ councillor, was recorded saying “cut their throats” accompanied by a throat cutting gesture.
Just like the Manchester Airport attackers, we all watched on TV battering a copper , got off with it.

I agree that the london councillor should have been sent down but the jury found him not guilty

The bother who punched the female coppers at the airport ? ......he was remanded in custody last year , hes due to be sentenced in 3 weeks ......hes done 6 months in nick .....I sincerely hope he gets another year which would be a decent sentence ...18 months in total ....for breaking a female coppers nose and knocking down another one

If hes released in late june after being on remand some might argue 6 months is a fair sentence ....I dont think it is ....give him more

He and his brother have had two trials for assaulting the male copper .....both failed to reach a verdict

The reason there were suggestions of 2 tier policing at the time was that a lot went down for 2 years for violent disorder after the southport riots .....but violent disorder is one step down from riot and the courts treat that more seriously that thumping a copper

Regards

They kick off when Labour have to suspend some jury trials due to capacity because then it’s the crooked judges sending people down, then kick off again when a jury operates within its rights and finds it’s peer not guilty

Cup of cold sick Sludge.

Your worthless witterings are invariably so pathetic as not to even warrant thinking about a response. However, on this occasion as you’ve diminished the terrible death of a young man which, in itself, let alone the circumstances and deeper background should deeply concern us all I will venture some comments.

If you had given this matter some though you might have acknowledged that Henry Nowak was just the latest in a line of Britons murdered under similar circumstances with no justification whatsoever. Observable, provable fact. Pure coincidence?

No connections with drugs, turf wars, gangs, inter-ethnic politics or any of those things. Just being there.

It is also a fact that Hampshire Police through two of their women high-ups recently instituted anti-Racist programmes throughout the Force which it is difficult to believe did not impact upon the disgraceful behaviour of the police at the scene.

Police are allegedly required to ‘believe’ any accusation of ‘racism’ with no evidence whatsoever. If true is that reasonable?

In this case they had been told in the 999 call that someone had been stabbed and at the scene, Henry was bleeding from several wounds.

I believe it is also a reported fact that the Police confiscated the phones of Henry and his father to search for ‘racist’ comments.

Strangely, Mr Novak was not it appears, notified of Henrys’ death until 24 hrs after the event. Strange that. Wonder why?

There are incredible double standards in force as the State and its lackeys throughout politics, the media and of course the Police double, down on the imposition and enforcement of policies which we are not allowed to criticise.

And of course, there are the useful idiots who go along with it all. Perhaps because they want to feel good and are can’t think outside the approved herd mentality. the younger ones have a sort of excuse in that they've been conditioned in school and through media. People like you, not so much. No excuse at all.

None are so blind that will not see.

Two-tier Kier and the two-tier justice system is a description that is denied but thoughtful observers can work out for themselves whether this is a reality. Don’t forget, in ‘1984’ Orwell wrote of the State’s first and most important command, which was ‘to ignore the evidence of your own eyes.’

Are we simply to accept this state of affairs continuing and inevitably worsening?

From elsewhere:

‘Henry Nowak’s murder, the complicity of the murderer’s family and the refusal of police officers was political. Without the anti-white double standards that govern our current moral order, Henry would still be alive. But as ever, the problem is neither thy problem itself nor those importing the problem The problem is that too many of us are now noticing and trying to address the problem. We refuse any longer to tolerate a situation in which savage attacks on whites are at best a ‘tragedy’ while the merest discomfort -let alone the murder of (one of) any other group is treated as a moral emergency.’

Not talking about this problem doesn't make it go away. It simply defers the time of reckoning which must come.

To end, I’ll bet neither Henry’s mother or father are given a seat in the House of Lords.

Excellent post
Hampshire police guidance is all about tackling imaginary racism and prioritising anyone who’s not white. You’d have thought the exposure of industrial scale rape of British children, by predominantly Pakistani men, which was ignored,for the sake of social cohesion, would have ended this. Sadly not, the long march through the institutions is almost complete and all our public bodies are riddled with the social cancer of DEI and equity.
It shows the scale of two tier policing in this country, when Lucy Connolly was jailed for a tweet. While a serving politician, who advocated cutting the throats of anyone with a different view, walked free.

Thats more nonsense

Lucy Connolly admitted her guilt

The councillor in london pleaded not guilty , went to trial and was found not guilty

Thats the court process we have and was the decision of the jury , it wasnt two tier policing , absolute rubbish

The vile low IQ councillor, was recorded saying “cut their throats” accompanied by a throat cutting gesture.
Just like the Manchester Airport attackers, we all watched on TV battering a copper , got off with it.

I agree that the london councillor should have been sent down but the jury found him not guilty

The bother who punched the female coppers at the airport ? ......he was remanded in custody last year , hes due to be sentenced in 3 weeks ......hes done 6 months in nick .....I sincerely hope he gets another year which would be a decent sentence ...18 months in total ....for breaking a female coppers nose and knocking down another one

If hes released in late june after being on remand some might argue 6 months is a fair sentence ....I dont think it is ....give him more

He and his brother have had two trials for assaulting the male copper .....both failed to reach a verdict

The reason there were suggestions of 2 tier policing at the time was that a lot went down for 2 years for violent disorder after the southport riots .....but violent disorder is one step down from riot and the courts treat that more seriously that thumping a copper

Regards

They kick off when Labour have to suspend some jury trials due to capacity because then it’s the crooked judges sending people down, then kick off again when a jury operates within its rights and finds it’s peer not guilty

Assuming you watched the Manchester Airport attack footage. Do you think the jury made the correct decision?
Again assuming you watched the Labour councillor make a throttle cutting gesture, while imploring the mob to cut the throats of people who do not share his political view. Do you think the punishment was correct?

I don't pretend to know a huge amount about this case, but what it has highlighted perfectly is how a tragic news event like this can be used...in my opinion (and that's only what it is)...to keep this right-left, black-white, conservative-liberal narrative from playing out. Meaning that the general public are so busy attacking each other that they forget about holding the real criminals to account i.e those in power who continue to lie, steal and manipulate events large and small to further their agenda.

Rather than attacking each other, maybe we should all take a stand back and take a look at the complete shower we have as a government and political class in this country and hold them to account as much as we do each other.

And before anyone asks, no I don't vote. The problem with voting is the government still get in no matter what.

Well said

I'm a non voter too and I agree with everything you said

There should be a none of the above option on voting papers. I always vote and nowadays I spoil my paper in a way that it has be counted but not available to be used as an argument from a candidate to a Returning Officer that my spoilt paper was meant to be a vote for them. This does happen in close calls. A simple NONE OF THE ABOVE will suffice.

Cup of cold sick Sludge.

Your worthless witterings are invariably so pathetic as not to even warrant thinking about a response. However, on this occasion as you’ve diminished the terrible death of a young man which, in itself, let alone the circumstances and deeper background should deeply concern us all I will venture some comments.

If you had given this matter some though you might have acknowledged that Henry Nowak was just the latest in a line of Britons murdered under similar circumstances with no justification whatsoever. Observable, provable fact. Pure coincidence?

No connections with drugs, turf wars, gangs, inter-ethnic politics or any of those things. Just being there.

It is also a fact that Hampshire Police through two of their women high-ups recently instituted anti-Racist programmes throughout the Force which it is difficult to believe did not impact upon the disgraceful behaviour of the police at the scene.

Police are allegedly required to ‘believe’ any accusation of ‘racism’ with no evidence whatsoever. If true is that reasonable?

In this case they had been told in the 999 call that someone had been stabbed and at the scene, Henry was bleeding from several wounds.

I believe it is also a reported fact that the Police confiscated the phones of Henry and his father to search for ‘racist’ comments.

Strangely, Mr Novak was not it appears, notified of Henrys’ death until 24 hrs after the event. Strange that. Wonder why?

There are incredible double standards in force as the State and its lackeys throughout politics, the media and of course the Police double, down on the imposition and enforcement of policies which we are not allowed to criticise.

And of course, there are the useful idiots who go along with it all. Perhaps because they want to feel good and are can’t think outside the approved herd mentality. the younger ones have a sort of excuse in that they've been conditioned in school and through media. People like you, not so much. No excuse at all.

None are so blind that will not see.

Two-tier Kier and the two-tier justice system is a description that is denied but thoughtful observers can work out for themselves whether this is a reality. Don’t forget, in ‘1984’ Orwell wrote of the State’s first and most important command, which was ‘to ignore the evidence of your own eyes.’

Are we simply to accept this state of affairs continuing and inevitably worsening?

From elsewhere:

‘Henry Nowak’s murder, the complicity of the murderer’s family and the refusal of police officers was political. Without the anti-white double standards that govern our current moral order, Henry would still be alive. But as ever, the problem is neither thy problem itself nor those importing the problem The problem is that too many of us are now noticing and trying to address the problem. We refuse any longer to tolerate a situation in which savage attacks on whites are at best a ‘tragedy’ while the merest discomfort -let alone the murder of (one of) any other group is treated as a moral emergency.’

Not talking about this problem doesn't make it go away. It simply defers the time of reckoning which must come.

To end, I’ll bet neither Henry’s mother or father are given a seat in the House of Lords.

Excellent post
Hampshire police guidance is all about tackling imaginary racism and prioritising anyone who’s not white. You’d have thought the exposure of industrial scale rape of British children, by predominantly Pakistani men, which was ignored,for the sake of social cohesion, would have ended this. Sadly not, the long march through the institutions is almost complete and all our public bodies are riddled with the social cancer of DEI and equity.
It shows the scale of two tier policing in this country, when Lucy Connolly was jailed for a tweet. While a serving politician, who advocated cutting the throats of anyone with a different view, walked free.

Thats more nonsense

Lucy Connolly admitted her guilt

The councillor in london pleaded not guilty , went to trial and was found not guilty

Thats the court process we have and was the decision of the jury , it wasnt two tier policing , absolute rubbish

The vile low IQ councillor, was recorded saying “cut their throats” accompanied by a throat cutting gesture.
Just like the Manchester Airport attackers, we all watched on TV battering a copper , got off with it.

I agree that the london councillor should have been sent down but the jury found him not guilty

The bother who punched the female coppers at the airport ? ......he was remanded in custody last year , hes due to be sentenced in 3 weeks ......hes done 6 months in nick .....I sincerely hope he gets another year which would be a decent sentence ...18 months in total ....for breaking a female coppers nose and knocking down another one

If hes released in late june after being on remand some might argue 6 months is a fair sentence ....I dont think it is ....give him more

He and his brother have had two trials for assaulting the male copper .....both failed to reach a verdict

The reason there were suggestions of 2 tier policing at the time was that a lot went down for 2 years for violent disorder after the southport riots .....but violent disorder is one step down from riot and the courts treat that more seriously that thumping a copper

Regards

They kick off when Labour have to suspend some jury trials due to capacity because then it’s the crooked judges sending people down, then kick off again when a jury operates within its rights and finds it’s peer not guilty

Assuming you watched the Manchester Airport attack footage. Do you think the jury made the correct decision?
Again assuming you watched the Labour councillor make a throttle cutting gesture, while imploring the mob to cut the throats of people who do not share his political view. Do you think the punishment was correct?

Personally from what I know of both I disagree with the decisions, but a) we don’t know what other evidence they were presented and what formed their opinions and b) they’re the jury, they’re entitled to come to their own decisions as long as they follow proper procedure and don’t make it blatantly obvious that they don’t understand what’s going on and that’s that.

Can’t pick and choose if and when a jury’s decision is valid or not

Sludge is/was banned from the other site. I like to stick together with City fans but He's a massive tw*t, can't even debate properly, he's constantly bullying a member elsewhere because he can't debate.

Cup of cold sick Sludge.

Your worthless witterings are invariably so pathetic as not to even warrant thinking about a response. However, on this occasion as you’ve diminished the terrible death of a young man which, in itself, let alone the circumstances and deeper background should deeply concern us all I will venture some comments.

If you had given this matter some though you might have acknowledged that Henry Nowak was just the latest in a line of Britons murdered under similar circumstances with no justification whatsoever. Observable, provable fact. Pure coincidence?

No connections with drugs, turf wars, gangs, inter-ethnic politics or any of those things. Just being there.

It is also a fact that Hampshire Police through two of their women high-ups recently instituted anti-Racist programmes throughout the Force which it is difficult to believe did not impact upon the disgraceful behaviour of the police at the scene.

Police are allegedly required to ‘believe’ any accusation of ‘racism’ with no evidence whatsoever. If true is that reasonable?

In this case they had been told in the 999 call that someone had been stabbed and at the scene, Henry was bleeding from several wounds.

I believe it is also a reported fact that the Police confiscated the phones of Henry and his father to search for ‘racist’ comments.

Strangely, Mr Novak was not it appears, notified of Henrys’ death until 24 hrs after the event. Strange that. Wonder why?

There are incredible double standards in force as the State and its lackeys throughout politics, the media and of course the Police double, down on the imposition and enforcement of policies which we are not allowed to criticise.

And of course, there are the useful idiots who go along with it all. Perhaps because they want to feel good and are can’t think outside the approved herd mentality. the younger ones have a sort of excuse in that they've been conditioned in school and through media. People like you, not so much. No excuse at all.

None are so blind that will not see.

Two-tier Kier and the two-tier justice system is a description that is denied but thoughtful observers can work out for themselves whether this is a reality. Don’t forget, in ‘1984’ Orwell wrote of the State’s first and most important command, which was ‘to ignore the evidence of your own eyes.’

Are we simply to accept this state of affairs continuing and inevitably worsening?

From elsewhere:

‘Henry Nowak’s murder, the complicity of the murderer’s family and the refusal of police officers was political. Without the anti-white double standards that govern our current moral order, Henry would still be alive. But as ever, the problem is neither thy problem itself nor those importing the problem The problem is that too many of us are now noticing and trying to address the problem. We refuse any longer to tolerate a situation in which savage attacks on whites are at best a ‘tragedy’ while the merest discomfort -let alone the murder of (one of) any other group is treated as a moral emergency.’

Not talking about this problem doesn't make it go away. It simply defers the time of reckoning which must come.

To end, I’ll bet neither Henry’s mother or father are given a seat in the House of Lords.

This is an excellent, well written post.

Nonsense

The police were useless , they were clearly seen searching for stab wounds but couldnt find any ......not easy to see entry wounds but they should have found them

It was nothing to do with the poor guys race , it was crap , useless coppers

If there was some kind of cover up the police wouldnt have released the terrible video of the incident

If you have 100 coppers then if 10 of them are crap and useless this is going to happen

Black and Asian people are more likely to be arrested and charged with offences than us whiteys and are more likely to go to prison for similar offences and also get longer in prison

So yes ....there certainly is two tier policing and justice in this country .....and its not white people who are always on the wrong side of it

Absolute bollocks. People like you are the reason starmer and his minions have been able to run this country towards becoming an islamic state.

You are presented with the facts about arrests , tasering and prison sentences regarding white and black population

It shows that black population are treated with more direct discrimination than whites

Your answer ......the facts are bullshit and its lefty people causing all this

Absolutely off the radar you are

And you obviously haven't or wouldn't consider the idea that none whites commit more crime than white people in this country.

Sludge, I do not like for Annis to lose any board members, but really, why dont you join a political forum, instead of a football one, but i guess you have already done that, Then there is always Mikes message board , or is that not possible? has he banned you.?
This is a football forum, and political stuff does come up quite a lot, but lets be honest, you politicalise everythying. When I was on Mikes board you were exactly the same. Have they had enough of you over there ?

I cant remember you on mikes board

That’s a (poor) politicians response, which simply deflects from the point made

You were seemingly kicked off Mike’s Board for being you, so you are now infesting this one with your narrow self-opinionated views and foul responses to those who dare to think differently

You have ruined another thread that had meaning when it started and all so you can hear the sound of your own voice!

Truly embarrassing; or at least it would be, if you had any self-awareness!

If people are going to post incorrect opinions and pass them off as facts then its perfectly reasonable to call them out

Thats initially what I tend to do but when one gets called a lefty etc etc its diffucult to debate sensibly so there you go

I am not interested in arguing between boards , I know several post over there from here using different names but I cant remember you

It’s not the debate or the differences of opinion that matters. It’s the way you conduct yourself and your offensive tone; and let’s not forget the series of ‘Thicko!’ pm’s you bombarded me with after your last explosion

Let’s set the record straight here; I have NEVER been on Mike’s Board, but I know some who are, and they warned me about your ‘character’ on there when you started to become regular on here

Sadly, your reputation for being an intolerant, intransigent, abusive individual proceeds you!

I have been on here for years and years

I did indeed send you PMs because despite calling yourself a moderator you were about as impartial as a bent high court judge

Sludge has nailed it perfectly.
No amount of counter arguing is going to succeed in this matter. The far right always hijack tragic situations like this and use it for their own filthy agendas.

Is that what you call nailing something perfectly?
You have two people at the crime scene one lying on the floor with an obvious stab wound to his face and three other wounds not so obvious but the person on the floor is saying he's been stabbed four times, he's also claiming he can't breathe. Then you have the other person appearing unharmed with no obvious injuries standing over the prone person claiming that his turban was knocked off his head and he'd been racially verbally abused by the prone person on the floor.
My first thoughts would be that obviously the person on the floor had been assaulted using a bladed article (face injury) and almost certainly the person standing above him was the one who had committed the attack.
Any normal person would come to that conclusion as in say if it was a drink related altercation, people would almost certainly come to the conclusion that they had a disagreement and one man had used a bladed article (which we all know is a serious offence) and the other was a victim of that attack.. pretty obvious isn't it?
So why would the police disbelieve the man on the floor? What would make them disbelieve something so obvious?
My take on it is that the police have been trained to put racial accusations as more important than anything else..maybe worth a read of their policy on policing so called racial accusations. This govt is pushing the narrative and the upper echelons of the police (amongst many other organisations) are involved in this woke nonsense.. mostly Fabian based.
The man was dying as it was then the police probably accelerated that outcome by handcuffing him and dragging his dying body across the gravel.
Surely you I and any sane person would refrain from handcuffing someone whose obviously in serious difficulties with very bad injuries and is incapable of being a problem or nuisance to them and maybe handcuffing the person standing over the prone person would be more appropriate.
Big call out to Sludge for his enlightening contributions to this debate.

The coppers were utter gash but I disagree , from what we know , that racial training caused them to behave so badly

This poor kid lost his life because the coppers were possibly criminally negligent

I hope they get done

Sludge you have very strong political leanings which you pursue with enthusiasm but when I see all the left wing protesters they chant the same things every time.
Most people know that these counter protests are paid for by Unite the Union and another counter progressive organisation the name of which I cannot recall.
Police, Civil Service, Universities, Schools, Judiciary, Mainstream media, Banks and many others are on the 'woke' agenda and are sponsored by the WEF in Davos and all these institutions have Fabians as the heads of their organisations.. interesting read as to their intentions and values, wolf in sheep's clothing was their motto as you are probably aware being politically savvy.
Their influence runs deep and without a shadow of a doubt this influence caused this situation to occur.
Like I said in my previous post why would you handcuff the person on the floor with a bleeding face and not the person standing over him? Can you tell me the thinking behind this?

A crap copper would do that and thats what he was

I agree with some of what you say ,the far left are a pain in the arse

I am not far left , I just dont like the far right

Sludge is/was banned from the other site. I like to stick together with City fans but He's a massive tw*t, can't even debate properly, he's constantly bullying a member elsewhere because he can't debate.

No I am not you plum

You are a massive ponce in designer gear

Sludge is/was banned from the other site. I like to stick together with City fans but He's a massive tw*t, can't even debate properly, he's constantly bullying a member elsewhere because he can't debate.

No I am not you plum

You are a massive ponce in designer gear

Were you banned from the footie side of things or not?

Cup of cold sick Sludge.

Your worthless witterings are invariably so pathetic as not to even warrant thinking about a response. However, on this occasion as you’ve diminished the terrible death of a young man which, in itself, let alone the circumstances and deeper background should deeply concern us all I will venture some comments.

If you had given this matter some though you might have acknowledged that Henry Nowak was just the latest in a line of Britons murdered under similar circumstances with no justification whatsoever. Observable, provable fact. Pure coincidence?

No connections with drugs, turf wars, gangs, inter-ethnic politics or any of those things. Just being there.

It is also a fact that Hampshire Police through two of their women high-ups recently instituted anti-Racist programmes throughout the Force which it is difficult to believe did not impact upon the disgraceful behaviour of the police at the scene.

Police are allegedly required to ‘believe’ any accusation of ‘racism’ with no evidence whatsoever. If true is that reasonable?

In this case they had been told in the 999 call that someone had been stabbed and at the scene, Henry was bleeding from several wounds.

I believe it is also a reported fact that the Police confiscated the phones of Henry and his father to search for ‘racist’ comments.

Strangely, Mr Novak was not it appears, notified of Henrys’ death until 24 hrs after the event. Strange that. Wonder why?

There are incredible double standards in force as the State and its lackeys throughout politics, the media and of course the Police double, down on the imposition and enforcement of policies which we are not allowed to criticise.

And of course, there are the useful idiots who go along with it all. Perhaps because they want to feel good and are can’t think outside the approved herd mentality. the younger ones have a sort of excuse in that they've been conditioned in school and through media. People like you, not so much. No excuse at all.

None are so blind that will not see.

Two-tier Kier and the two-tier justice system is a description that is denied but thoughtful observers can work out for themselves whether this is a reality. Don’t forget, in ‘1984’ Orwell wrote of the State’s first and most important command, which was ‘to ignore the evidence of your own eyes.’

Are we simply to accept this state of affairs continuing and inevitably worsening?

From elsewhere:

‘Henry Nowak’s murder, the complicity of the murderer’s family and the refusal of police officers was political. Without the anti-white double standards that govern our current moral order, Henry would still be alive. But as ever, the problem is neither thy problem itself nor those importing the problem The problem is that too many of us are now noticing and trying to address the problem. We refuse any longer to tolerate a situation in which savage attacks on whites are at best a ‘tragedy’ while the merest discomfort -let alone the murder of (one of) any other group is treated as a moral emergency.’

Not talking about this problem doesn't make it go away. It simply defers the time of reckoning which must come.

To end, I’ll bet neither Henry’s mother or father are given a seat in the House of Lords.

This is an excellent, well written post.

Nonsense

The police were useless , they were clearly seen searching for stab wounds but couldnt find any ......not easy to see entry wounds but they should have found them

It was nothing to do with the poor guys race , it was crap , useless coppers

If there was some kind of cover up the police wouldnt have released the terrible video of the incident

If you have 100 coppers then if 10 of them are crap and useless this is going to happen

Black and Asian people are more likely to be arrested and charged with offences than us whiteys and are more likely to go to prison for similar offences and also get longer in prison

So yes ....there certainly is two tier policing and justice in this country .....and its not white people who are always on the wrong side of it

Absolute bollocks. People like you are the reason starmer and his minions have been able to run this country towards becoming an islamic state.

You are presented with the facts about arrests , tasering and prison sentences regarding white and black population

It shows that black population are treated with more direct discrimination than whites

Your answer ......the facts are bullshit and its lefty people causing all this

Absolutely off the radar you are

And you obviously haven't or wouldn't consider the idea that none whites commit more crime than white people in this country.

You think non whites carry out more crimes than white people ?

Sludge is/was banned from the other site. I like to stick together with City fans but He's a massive tw*t, can't even debate properly, he's constantly bullying a member elsewhere because he can't debate.

No I am not you plum

You are a massive ponce in designer gear

Were you banned from the footie side of things or not?

Thats completely different

Have you got lots of nice jumpers ?

Sludge is/was banned from the other site. I like to stick together with City fans but He's a massive tw*t, can't even debate properly, he's constantly bullying a member elsewhere because he can't debate.

No I am not you plum

You are a massive ponce in designer gear

Were you banned from the footie side of things or not?

Thats completely different

Have you got lots of nice jumpers ?

You were banned and learnt nothing, you're getting worse as you age you poisonous little twerp

Sludge is/was banned from the other site. I like to stick together with City fans but He's a massive tw*t, can't even debate properly, he's constantly bullying a member elsewhere because he can't debate.

No I am not you plum

You are a massive ponce in designer gear

Were you banned from the footie side of things or not?

Thats completely different

Have you got lots of nice jumpers ?

You were banned and learnt nothing, you're getting worse as you age you poisonous little twerp

A couple of short arses like yourself went awol

Sludge is/was banned from the other site. I like to stick together with City fans but He's a massive tw*t, can't even debate properly, he's constantly bullying a member elsewhere because he can't debate.

No I am not you plum

You are a massive ponce in designer gear

Were you banned from the footie side of things or not?

Thats completely different

Have you got lots of nice jumpers ?

You were banned and learnt nothing, you're getting worse as you age you poisonous little twerp

A couple of short arses like yourself went awol

I'm 6ft and don't need metformin to eat dessert

I'm done on this thread. It's got way out of hand thanks to a certain poster who manages to get away with verbally abusing his fellow posters calling them pathetic names and being homophobic. He can't debate in a civilised manner or have respect for other poster's opinions. And it's certainly not the first time he's ruined a thread and I doubt it'll be the last.

Has Sludge ever thought of professional counselling for his mental health? I'm not being sarcastic, I am being serious.

This board is the best Cardiff City forum out there. We all post our opinions.....and most respect them, but may vehemently disagree. That's fine, that's what a forum is meant to be.

This guy is just totally abusive and derails a thread in an instant. Politics IS divisive......that is the nature of the beast. But that is OK as debates should be out there with every individual having their own view.

I don't believe in the "cancel culture" as all views should be aired. However, I think repeated name calling and abuse, when you have lost the argument is not right and warnings should be given.

It's quite obvious to me, and millions of the British people, that two tier policing is rampant. Unfortunately this means we have a major systemic problem in our justice system.

I am a white gammon and have 2 white sons. I really do fear for their safety if they go on a night out and get caught up in the wrong place at the wrong time.

When I watched the police body cam footage I literally felt sick. God bless Henry's soul and God bless his family and friends as they attempt a lifetime of recovery.

Has Sludge ever thought of professional counselling for his mental health? I'm not being sarcastic, I am being serious.

This board is the best Cardiff City forum out there. We all post our opinions.....and most respect them, but may vehemently disagree. That's fine, that's what a forum is meant to be.

This guy is just totally abusive and derails a thread in an instant. Politics IS divisive......that is the nature of the beast. But that is OK as debates should be out there with every individual having their own view.

I don't believe in the "cancel culture" as all views should be aired. However, I think repeated name calling and abuse, when you have lost the argument is not right and warnings should be given.

It's quite obvious to me, and millions of the British people, that two tier policing is rampant. Unfortunately this means we have a major systemic problem in our justice

I am a white gammon and have 2 white sons. I really do fear for their safety if they go on a night out and get caught up in the wrong place at the wrong time.

When I watched the police body cam footage I literally felt sick. God bless Henry's soul and God bless his family and friends as they attempt a lifetime of recovery.

I have 2 Grandsons (18,4) and 4 Granddaughters (14, 3, 3 and 3 months) and I worry for their future.
As witnessed you can't rely on the Police for help if you're in a bad situation which should worry all parents in this country. Why is this the case? It should be a God given that the Police are there to keep them safe.
Something badly wrong in this country and despite posters stating "they don't vote" imo the Govt has a lot to answer for.

Cup of cold sick Sludge.

Your worthless witterings are invariably so pathetic as not to even warrant thinking about a response. However, on this occasion as you’ve diminished the terrible death of a young man which, in itself, let alone the circumstances and deeper background should deeply concern us all I will venture some comments.

If you had given this matter some though you might have acknowledged that Henry Nowak was just the latest in a line of Britons murdered under similar circumstances with no justification whatsoever. Observable, provable fact. Pure coincidence?

No connections with drugs, turf wars, gangs, inter-ethnic politics or any of those things. Just being there.

It is also a fact that Hampshire Police through two of their women high-ups recently instituted anti-Racist programmes throughout the Force which it is difficult to believe did not impact upon the disgraceful behaviour of the police at the scene.

Police are allegedly required to ‘believe’ any accusation of ‘racism’ with no evidence whatsoever. If true is that reasonable?

In this case they had been told in the 999 call that someone had been stabbed and at the scene, Henry was bleeding from several wounds.

I believe it is also a reported fact that the Police confiscated the phones of Henry and his father to search for ‘racist’ comments.

Strangely, Mr Novak was not it appears, notified of Henrys’ death until 24 hrs after the event. Strange that. Wonder why?

There are incredible double standards in force as the State and its lackeys throughout politics, the media and of course the Police double, down on the imposition and enforcement of policies which we are not allowed to criticise.

And of course, there are the useful idiots who go along with it all. Perhaps because they want to feel good and are can’t think outside the approved herd mentality. the younger ones have a sort of excuse in that they've been conditioned in school and through media. People like you, not so much. No excuse at all.

None are so blind that will not see.

Two-tier Kier and the two-tier justice system is a description that is denied but thoughtful observers can work out for themselves whether this is a reality. Don’t forget, in ‘1984’ Orwell wrote of the State’s first and most important command, which was ‘to ignore the evidence of your own eyes.’

Are we simply to accept this state of affairs continuing and inevitably worsening?

From elsewhere:

‘Henry Nowak’s murder, the complicity of the murderer’s family and the refusal of police officers was political. Without the anti-white double standards that govern our current moral order, Henry would still be alive. But as ever, the problem is neither thy problem itself nor those importing the problem The problem is that too many of us are now noticing and trying to address the problem. We refuse any longer to tolerate a situation in which savage attacks on whites are at best a ‘tragedy’ while the merest discomfort -let alone the murder of (one of) any other group is treated as a moral emergency.’

Not talking about this problem doesn't make it go away. It simply defers the time of reckoning which must come.

To end, I’ll bet neither Henry’s mother or father are given a seat in the House of Lords.

Excellent post
Hampshire police guidance is all about tackling imaginary racism and prioritising anyone who’s not white. You’d have thought the exposure of industrial scale rape of British children, by predominantly Pakistani men, which was ignored,for the sake of social cohesion, would have ended this. Sadly not, the long march through the institutions is almost complete and all our public bodies are riddled with the social cancer of DEI and equity.
It shows the scale of two tier policing in this country, when Lucy Connolly was jailed for a tweet. While a serving politician, who advocated cutting the throats of anyone with a different view, walked free.

Thats more nonsense

Lucy Connolly admitted her guilt

The councillor in london pleaded not guilty , went to trial and was found not guilty

Thats the court process we have and was the decision of the jury , it wasnt two tier policing , absolute rubbish

The vile low IQ councillor, was recorded saying “cut their throats” accompanied by a throat cutting gesture.
Just like the Manchester Airport attackers, we all watched on TV battering a copper , got off with it.

I agree that the london councillor should have been sent down but the jury found him not guilty

The bother who punched the female coppers at the airport ? ......he was remanded in custody last year , hes due to be sentenced in 3 weeks ......hes done 6 months in nick .....I sincerely hope he gets another year which would be a decent sentence ...18 months in total ....for breaking a female coppers nose and knocking down another one

If hes released in late june after being on remand some might argue 6 months is a fair sentence ....I dont think it is ....give him more

He and his brother have had two trials for assaulting the male copper .....both failed to reach a verdict

The reason there were suggestions of 2 tier policing at the time was that a lot went down for 2 years for violent disorder after the southport riots .....but violent disorder is one step down from riot and the courts treat that more seriously that thumping a copper

Regards

They kick off when Labour have to suspend some jury trials due to capacity because then it’s the crooked judges sending people down, then kick off again when a jury operates within its rights and finds it’s peer not guilty

Assuming you watched the Manchester Airport attack footage. Do you think the jury made the correct decision?
Again assuming you watched the Labour councillor make a throttle cutting gesture, while imploring the mob to cut the throats of people who do not share his political view. Do you think the punishment was correct?

Personally from what I know of both I disagree with the decisions, but a) we don’t know what other evidence they were presented and what formed their opinions and b) they’re the jury, they’re entitled to come to their own decisions as long as they follow proper procedure and don’t make it blatantly obvious that they don’t understand what’s going on and that’s that.

Can’t pick and choose if and when a jury’s decision is valid or not

I agree with your point about picking and choosing but I’d be interested in the demographic make up of both juries.

Cup of cold sick Sludge.

Your worthless witterings are invariably so pathetic as not to even warrant thinking about a response. However, on this occasion as you’ve diminished the terrible death of a young man which, in itself, let alone the circumstances and deeper background should deeply concern us all I will venture some comments.

If you had given this matter some though you might have acknowledged that Henry Nowak was just the latest in a line of Britons murdered under similar circumstances with no justification whatsoever. Observable, provable fact. Pure coincidence?

No connections with drugs, turf wars, gangs, inter-ethnic politics or any of those things. Just being there.

It is also a fact that Hampshire Police through two of their women high-ups recently instituted anti-Racist programmes throughout the Force which it is difficult to believe did not impact upon the disgraceful behaviour of the police at the scene.

Police are allegedly required to ‘believe’ any accusation of ‘racism’ with no evidence whatsoever. If true is that reasonable?

In this case they had been told in the 999 call that someone had been stabbed and at the scene, Henry was bleeding from several wounds.

I believe it is also a reported fact that the Police confiscated the phones of Henry and his father to search for ‘racist’ comments.

Strangely, Mr Novak was not it appears, notified of Henrys’ death until 24 hrs after the event. Strange that. Wonder why?

There are incredible double standards in force as the State and its lackeys throughout politics, the media and of course the Police double, down on the imposition and enforcement of policies which we are not allowed to criticise.

And of course, there are the useful idiots who go along with it all. Perhaps because they want to feel good and are can’t think outside the approved herd mentality. the younger ones have a sort of excuse in that they've been conditioned in school and through media. People like you, not so much. No excuse at all.

None are so blind that will not see.

Two-tier Kier and the two-tier justice system is a description that is denied but thoughtful observers can work out for themselves whether this is a reality. Don’t forget, in ‘1984’ Orwell wrote of the State’s first and most important command, which was ‘to ignore the evidence of your own eyes.’

Are we simply to accept this state of affairs continuing and inevitably worsening?

From elsewhere:

‘Henry Nowak’s murder, the complicity of the murderer’s family and the refusal of police officers was political. Without the anti-white double standards that govern our current moral order, Henry would still be alive. But as ever, the problem is neither thy problem itself nor those importing the problem The problem is that too many of us are now noticing and trying to address the problem. We refuse any longer to tolerate a situation in which savage attacks on whites are at best a ‘tragedy’ while the merest discomfort -let alone the murder of (one of) any other group is treated as a moral emergency.’

Not talking about this problem doesn't make it go away. It simply defers the time of reckoning which must come.

To end, I’ll bet neither Henry’s mother or father are given a seat in the House of Lords.

This is an excellent, well written post.

Nonsense

The police were useless , they were clearly seen searching for stab wounds but couldnt find any ......not easy to see entry wounds but they should have found them

It was nothing to do with the poor guys race , it was crap , useless coppers

If there was some kind of cover up the police wouldnt have released the terrible video of the incident

If you have 100 coppers then if 10 of them are crap and useless this is going to happen

Black and Asian people are more likely to be arrested and charged with offences than us whiteys and are more likely to go to prison for similar offences and also get longer in prison

So yes ....there certainly is two tier policing and justice in this country .....and its not white people who are always on the wrong side of it

Absolute bollocks. People like you are the reason starmer and his minions have been able to run this country towards becoming an islamic state.

You are presented with the facts about arrests , tasering and prison sentences regarding white and black population

It shows that black population are treated with more direct discrimination than whites

Your answer ......the facts are bullshit and its lefty people causing all this

Absolutely off the radar you are

And you obviously haven't or wouldn't consider the idea that none whites commit more crime than white people in this country.

You think non whites carry out more crimes than white people ?

Whites or non whites dear oh dear.
Pro rata yes, however certain groups offend less. Like Indians and Chinese.
Migrants tend to offend at a far higher rate, particularly offenses against women and girls.

Has Sludge ever thought of professional counselling for his mental health? I'm not being sarcastic, I am being serious.

This board is the best Cardiff City forum out there. We all post our opinions.....and most respect them, but may vehemently disagree. That's fine, that's what a forum is meant to be.

This guy is just totally abusive and derails a thread in an instant. Politics IS divisive......that is the nature of the beast. But that is OK as debates should be out there with every individual having their own view.

I don't believe in the "cancel culture" as all views should be aired. However, I think repeated name calling and abuse, when you have lost the argument is not right and warnings should be given.

It's quite obvious to me, and millions of the British people, that two tier policing is rampant. Unfortunately this means we have a major systemic problem in our justice system.

I am a white gammon and have 2 white sons. I really do fear for their safety if they go on a night out and get caught up in the wrong place at the wrong time.

When I watched the police body cam footage I literally felt sick. God bless Henry's soul and God bless his family and friends as they attempt a lifetime of recovery.

Counsel him and the shrink would need a shrink.

Cup of cold sick Sludge.

Your worthless witterings are invariably so pathetic as not to even warrant thinking about a response. However, on this occasion as you’ve diminished the terrible death of a young man which, in itself, let alone the circumstances and deeper background should deeply concern us all I will venture some comments.

If you had given this matter some though you might have acknowledged that Henry Nowak was just the latest in a line of Britons murdered under similar circumstances with no justification whatsoever. Observable, provable fact. Pure coincidence?

No connections with drugs, turf wars, gangs, inter-ethnic politics or any of those things. Just being there.

It is also a fact that Hampshire Police through two of their women high-ups recently instituted anti-Racist programmes throughout the Force which it is difficult to believe did not impact upon the disgraceful behaviour of the police at the scene.

Police are allegedly required to ‘believe’ any accusation of ‘racism’ with no evidence whatsoever. If true is that reasonable?

In this case they had been told in the 999 call that someone had been stabbed and at the scene, Henry was bleeding from several wounds.

I believe it is also a reported fact that the Police confiscated the phones of Henry and his father to search for ‘racist’ comments.

Strangely, Mr Novak was not it appears, notified of Henrys’ death until 24 hrs after the event. Strange that. Wonder why?

There are incredible double standards in force as the State and its lackeys throughout politics, the media and of course the Police double, down on the imposition and enforcement of policies which we are not allowed to criticise.

And of course, there are the useful idiots who go along with it all. Perhaps because they want to feel good and are can’t think outside the approved herd mentality. the younger ones have a sort of excuse in that they've been conditioned in school and through media. People like you, not so much. No excuse at all.

None are so blind that will not see.

Two-tier Kier and the two-tier justice system is a description that is denied but thoughtful observers can work out for themselves whether this is a reality. Don’t forget, in ‘1984’ Orwell wrote of the State’s first and most important command, which was ‘to ignore the evidence of your own eyes.’

Are we simply to accept this state of affairs continuing and inevitably worsening?

From elsewhere:

‘Henry Nowak’s murder, the complicity of the murderer’s family and the refusal of police officers was political. Without the anti-white double standards that govern our current moral order, Henry would still be alive. But as ever, the problem is neither thy problem itself nor those importing the problem The problem is that too many of us are now noticing and trying to address the problem. We refuse any longer to tolerate a situation in which savage attacks on whites are at best a ‘tragedy’ while the merest discomfort -let alone the murder of (one of) any other group is treated as a moral emergency.’

Not talking about this problem doesn't make it go away. It simply defers the time of reckoning which must come.

To end, I’ll bet neither Henry’s mother or father are given a seat in the House of Lords.

This is an excellent, well written post.

Nonsense

The police were useless , they were clearly seen searching for stab wounds but couldnt find any ......not easy to see entry wounds but they should have found them

It was nothing to do with the poor guys race , it was crap , useless coppers

If there was some kind of cover up the police wouldnt have released the terrible video of the incident

If you have 100 coppers then if 10 of them are crap and useless this is going to happen

Black and Asian people are more likely to be arrested and charged with offences than us whiteys and are more likely to go to prison for similar offences and also get longer in prison

So yes ....there certainly is two tier policing and justice in this country .....and its not white people who are always on the wrong side of it

Absolute bollocks. People like you are the reason starmer and his minions have been able to run this country towards becoming an islamic state.

You are presented with the facts about arrests , tasering and prison sentences regarding white and black population

It shows that black population are treated with more direct discrimination than whites

Your answer ......the facts are bullshit and its lefty people causing all this

Absolutely off the radar you are

And you obviously haven't or wouldn't consider the idea that none whites commit more crime than white people in this country.

You think non whites carry out more crimes than white people ?

Whites or non whites dear oh dear.
Pro rata yes, however certain groups offend less. Like Indians and Chinese.
Migrants tend to offend at a far higher rate, particularly offenses against women and girls.

Thats not what he said

He said non whites carry out more crimes than white people

Has Sludge ever thought of professional counselling for his mental health? I'm not being sarcastic, I am being serious.

This board is the best Cardiff City forum out there. We all post our opinions.....and most respect them, but may vehemently disagree. That's fine, that's what a forum is meant to be.

This guy is just totally abusive and derails a thread in an instant. Politics IS divisive......that is the nature of the beast. But that is OK as debates should be out there with every individual having their own view.

I don't believe in the "cancel culture" as all views should be aired. However, I think repeated name calling and abuse, when you have lost the argument is not right and warnings should be given.

It's quite obvious to me, and millions of the British people, that two tier policing is rampant. Unfortunately this means we have a major systemic problem in our justice system.

I am a white gammon and have 2 white sons. I really do fear for their safety if they go on a night out and get caught up in the wrong place at the wrong time.

When I watched the police body cam footage I literally felt sick. God bless Henry's soul and God bless his family and friends as they attempt a lifetime of recovery.

There are 70 million people in this country , if a majority believed two tier policing was in place then everyone would be voting reform and agreeing with farage

In fact only about 3 in 10 vote Reform so wether you think two tier policing is in place , its a minority view

And the home office stats suggest it isnt either

Sludge is/was banned from the other site. I like to stick together with City fans but He's a massive tw*t, can't even debate properly, he's constantly bullying a member elsewhere because he can't debate.

No I am not you plum

You are a massive ponce in designer gear

Were you banned from the footie side of things or not?

Thats completely different

Have you got lots of nice jumpers ?

You were banned and learnt nothing, you're getting worse as you age you poisonous little twerp

A couple of short arses like yourself went awol

I'm 6ft and don't need metformin to eat dessert

On a pair of stilts

It's a real shame that there cannot be adult conversations and debates on sites like this without name-calling.

One of the most important things I learnt from my 20's is that I don't know it all. I thought I did. Now the more I do know, the more I realise I don't know everything or have all the answers.

I would say that if you cannot reply with a clear and articulate response, and have to resort to name-calling because someone disagrees with you, then it's time to take your ball and go home.

Surely there's better things to do than trying to win an argument against random people online?!