If Sam came back hopefully he gets fair treatment

As you Pembroke Allan seem to be the most hatred to Sam on this thread?

These are just for you.

Honest answers please and Cardiff City is all that matters to me in this as that’s who I care about.



We’re you supporting City before Sam’s days?
If so tell Exactly how we were doing then, crowds, league, ground , squad value , Accademy ,debt etc etc?
How come no one was interested in us back then?


So please tell Me where we were in the league and what league when Sam left ? Crowds ? Stadium, future plans? Debt, squad value etc?
Was our profile bigger? Did you welcome Sam and did you ever sing his name etc?


Did you enjoy the promotions?
Did we ever get relegated under Sam?


Sam made mistakes, he accepts and now has the money to take us forward and was virtually at every game home and away including under 21’s , under 12’s etc, does that not show that he actually cared for our club.

Sam was never ever going to put us under, that I know for a fact, not media bullshit.

Let me see started 1970 so seen the lot including 40 fans at blackburn southend ect .... did I enjoy promotions mmm to ill so missed 1st one 2nd one was an experience most fans wanted I enjoyed the games like most..... did I sing for sam like fck I did nor did I for any of the owners we've had since 1970? Not sure what your trying to prove? you know my views on sh it hasn't changed and won't ... sh is like any owner of a club they're suppose to be custodians of the club and nearly all have made mistakes In one way or another.... as for loving club he had a funny way of showing it lying about Langston just like he did to other club no matter what you say I still believe he had designs in doing what he did to the other club? ( should try reading about it) Even you got to admit the similarities are there to see.. if he wouldnt let club go under why was tax man continuously at the door and the other financial matters selling players ect? as owner it was his responsibility to pay them and others? If he did tan wouldn't be here now! I dont hate tan dont hate sh I just dont want him near the club again tan as made club a circus so did sh all be it in different way... I want tan gone but also want clean broom not ex owner with the baggage and divisiveness he will bring to fans no matter how much money he as... does that answer you questions? Because I've certainly made it clear in the thread why I don't want him here. And I am not alone am I?

Your in the minority
Just answer the simple questions Allan, not your life story???




We’re you supporting City before Sam’s days?
If so tell Exactly how we were doing then, crowds, league, ground , squad value , Accademy ,debt etc etc?
How come no one was interested in us back then?


So please tell Me where we were in the league and what league when Sam left ? Crowds ? Stadium, future plans? Debt, squad value etc?
Was our profile bigger? Did you welcome Sam and did you ever sing his name etc?


Did you enjoy the promotions?
Did we ever get relegated under Sam?


Sam made mistakes, he accepts and now has the money to take us forward and was virtually at every game home and away including under 21’s , under 12’s etc, does that not show that he actually cared for our club.

Sam was never ever going to put us under, that I know for a fact, not media bullshit.

Annis you have said many times that Sam was at the academy games most weeks
My son was at the academy for 5 years So training 3 days a week and games on Sundays for all age groups under the age of 16 I never saw him once on a Sunday in those 5 years pr see him down the Vale when training g indoor or Treforest All i can say he must have turned up each time my sons age group played away
I was at every game for those 5 years from under 9 to under 14

Well, i can tell you now he was and I attended with him myself and many many fans also seen him,Sam was obsessed wiyth our youth and the proof was there with how many came through.
I even went to places like Colchester with Sam to watch our youth.

Sam would attend the all the Saturday youth games before City's main home game on Saturdays.
Everyone at the club saw him and many many fans also.



So i have to say you really are talking Bollocks making out its a lie, because i saw it myself on many occasions and others did.

I have a good mate whose boy was with the academy right through to 16, he definitely says, Sam was superb with the academy and it was well funded, he took it from nothing to a decent standard. He has nothing but praise for Sam in this aspect, was it on Sam's watch that we had Matt Crocker?

Mark,

Sam was obsessed with our Accademy and turned up everywhere and invested big time.
There are certain fans on here who want to beat Sam with anything abd won’t give him any applause for anything he achieved for Cardiff.

Annis, yes I agree he was brilliant with the academy, I remember that was one of his strong beliefs that we could be a bigger club if we got the academy right and that if we could capture all the Welsh talent we could become a big club.

My mate had direct involvement as a father and even though his Son didn't make it, so he could have become bitter, he has nothing but praise for Sam, and his investment and focus given to the academy

As you Pembroke Allan seem to be the most hatred to Sam on this thread?

These are just for you.

Honest answers please and Cardiff City is all that matters to me in this as that’s who I care about.



We’re you supporting City before Sam’s days?
If so tell Exactly how we were doing then, crowds, league, ground , squad value , Accademy ,debt etc etc?
How come no one was interested in us back then?


So please tell Me where we were in the league and what league when Sam left ? Crowds ? Stadium, future plans? Debt, squad value etc?
Was our profile bigger? Did you welcome Sam and did you ever sing his name etc?


Did you enjoy the promotions?
Did we ever get relegated under Sam?


Sam made mistakes, he accepts and now has the money to take us forward and was virtually at every game home and away including under 21’s , under 12’s etc, does that not show that he actually cared for our club.

Sam was never ever going to put us under, that I know for a fact, not media bullshit.

Let me see started 1970 so seen the lot including 40 fans at blackburn southend ect .... did I enjoy promotions mmm to ill so missed 1st one 2nd one was an experience most fans wanted I enjoyed the games like most..... did I sing for sam like fck I did nor did I for any of the owners we've had since 1970? Not sure what your trying to prove? you know my views on sh it hasn't changed and won't ... sh is like any owner of a club they're suppose to be custodians of the club and nearly all have made mistakes In one way or another.... as for loving club he had a funny way of showing it lying about Langston just like he did to other club no matter what you say I still believe he had designs in doing what he did to the other club? ( should try reading about it) Even you got to admit the similarities are there to see.. if he wouldnt let club go under why was tax man continuously at the door and the other financial matters selling players ect? as owner it was his responsibility to pay them and others? If he did tan wouldn't be here now! I dont hate tan dont hate sh I just dont want him near the club again tan as made club a circus so did sh all be it in different way... I want tan gone but also want clean broom not ex owner with the baggage and divisiveness he will bring to fans no matter how much money he as... does that answer you questions? Because I've certainly made it clear in the thread why I don't want him here. And I am not alone am I?

Your in the minority
Just answer the simple questions Allan, not your life story???




We’re you supporting City before Sam’s days?
If so tell Exactly how we were doing then, crowds, league, ground , squad value , Accademy ,debt etc etc?
How come no one was interested in us back then?


So please tell Me where we were in the league and what league when Sam left ? Crowds ? Stadium, future plans? Debt, squad value etc?
Was our profile bigger? Did you welcome Sam and did you ever sing his name etc?


Did you enjoy the promotions?
Did we ever get relegated under Sam?


Sam made mistakes, he accepts and now has the money to take us forward and was virtually at every game home and away including under 21’s , under 12’s etc, does that not show that he actually cared for our club.

Sam was never ever going to put us under, that I know for a fact, not media bullshit.

Annis you have said many times that Sam was at the academy games most weeks
My son was at the academy for 5 years So training 3 days a week and games on Sundays for all age groups under the age of 16 I never saw him once on a Sunday in those 5 years pr see him down the Vale when training g indoor or Treforest All i can say he must have turned up each time my sons age group played away
I was at every game for those 5 years from under 9 to under 14

Well, i can tell you now he was and I attended with him myself and many many fans also seen him,Sam was obsessed wiyth our youth and the proof was there with how many came through.
I even went to places like Colchester with Sam to watch our youth.

Sam would attend the all the Saturday youth games before City's main home game on Saturdays.
Everyone at the club saw him and many many fans also.



So i have to say you really are talking Bollocks making out its a lie, because i saw it myself on many occasions and others did.

I have a good mate whose boy was with the academy right through to 16, he definitely says, Sam was superb with the academy and it was well funded, he took it from nothing to a decent standard. He has nothing but praise for Sam in this aspect, was it on Sam's watch that we had Matt Crocker?

Mark,

Sam was obsessed with our Accademy and turned up everywhere and invested big time.
There are certain fans on here who want to beat Sam with anything abd won’t give him any applause for anything he achieved for Cardiff.

Annis, yes I agree he was brilliant with the academy, I remember that was one of his strong beliefs that we could be a bigger club if we got the academy right and that if we could capture all the Welsh talent we could become a big club.

My mate had direct involvement as a father and even though his Son didn't make it, so he could have become bitter, he has nothing but praise for Sam, and his investment and focus given to the academy

That’s why Mark , it saddens me that many lies are starting to be made up.

As you Pembroke Allan seem to be the most hatred to Sam on this thread?

These are just for you.

Honest answers please and Cardiff City is all that matters to me in this as that’s who I care about.



We’re you supporting City before Sam’s days?
If so tell Exactly how we were doing then, crowds, league, ground , squad value , Accademy ,debt etc etc?
How come no one was interested in us back then?


So please tell Me where we were in the league and what league when Sam left ? Crowds ? Stadium, future plans? Debt, squad value etc?
Was our profile bigger? Did you welcome Sam and did you ever sing his name etc?


Did you enjoy the promotions?
Did we ever get relegated under Sam?


Sam made mistakes, he accepts and now has the money to take us forward and was virtually at every game home and away including under 21’s , under 12’s etc, does that not show that he actually cared for our club.

Sam was never ever going to put us under, that I know for a fact, not media bullshit.

Let me see started 1970 so seen the lot including 40 fans at blackburn southend ect .... did I enjoy promotions mmm to ill so missed 1st one 2nd one was an experience most fans wanted I enjoyed the games like most..... did I sing for sam like fck I did nor did I for any of the owners we've had since 1970? Not sure what your trying to prove? you know my views on sh it hasn't changed and won't ... sh is like any owner of a club they're suppose to be custodians of the club and nearly all have made mistakes In one way or another.... as for loving club he had a funny way of showing it lying about Langston just like he did to other club no matter what you say I still believe he had designs in doing what he did to the other club? ( should try reading about it) Even you got to admit the similarities are there to see.. if he wouldnt let club go under why was tax man continuously at the door and the other financial matters selling players ect? as owner it was his responsibility to pay them and others? If he did tan wouldn't be here now! I dont hate tan dont hate sh I just dont want him near the club again tan as made club a circus so did sh all be it in different way... I want tan gone but also want clean broom not ex owner with the baggage and divisiveness he will bring to fans no matter how much money he as... does that answer you questions? Because I've certainly made it clear in the thread why I don't want him here. And I am not alone am I?

Your in the minority
Just answer the simple questions Allan, not your life story???




We’re you supporting City before Sam’s days?
If so tell Exactly how we were doing then, crowds, league, ground , squad value , Accademy ,debt etc etc?
How come no one was interested in us back then?


So please tell Me where we were in the league and what league when Sam left ? Crowds ? Stadium, future plans? Debt, squad value etc?
Was our profile bigger? Did you welcome Sam and did you ever sing his name etc?


Did you enjoy the promotions?
Did we ever get relegated under Sam?


Sam made mistakes, he accepts and now has the money to take us forward and was virtually at every game home and away including under 21’s , under 12’s etc, does that not show that he actually cared for our club.

Sam was never ever going to put us under, that I know for a fact, not media bullshit.

Annis you have said many times that Sam was at the academy games most weeks
My son was at the academy for 5 years So training 3 days a week and games on Sundays for all age groups under the age of 16 I never saw him once on a Sunday in those 5 years pr see him down the Vale when training g indoor or Treforest All i can say he must have turned up each time my sons age group played away
I was at every game for those 5 years from under 9 to under 14

Well, i can tell you now he was and I attended with him myself and many many fans also seen him,Sam was obsessed wiyth our youth and the proof was there with how many came through.
I even went to places like Colchester with Sam to watch our youth.

Sam would attend the all the Saturday youth games before City's main home game on Saturdays.
Everyone at the club saw him and many many fans also.



So i have to say you really are talking Bollocks making out its a lie, because i saw it myself on many occasions and others did.

I have a good mate whose boy was with the academy right through to 16, he definitely says, Sam was superb with the academy and it was well funded, he took it from nothing to a decent standard. He has nothing but praise for Sam in this aspect, was it on Sam's watch that we had Matt Crocker?

Mark,

Sam was obsessed with our Accademy and turned up everywhere and invested big time.
There are certain fans on here who want to beat Sam with anything abd won’t give him any applause for anything he achieved for Cardiff.

Which is why I started this post mate. However it works both ways and some won’t give Tan any credit at either.

have i missed something, "if same came back" is this a hypothetical or is he actually trying to buy the club ?

One thing is absolutely certain,the regime's time is up and they MUST GO! I've been saying this for years, and the predicament we now find ourselves in is one I anticpated then. In fact, im surprised we held on and are still in the Championship this year.

I take no pleasure in thinking I was probably right....

If there's a chance Sam MUST return, but frankly Mickey Mouse would be a better owner of Cardiff city than what we are subjected to right now.

One thing is absolutely certain,the regime's time is up and they MUST GO! I've been saying this for years, and the predicament we now find ourselves in is one I anticpated then. In fact, im surprised we held on and are still in the Championship this year.

I take no pleasure in thinking I was probably right....

If there's a chance Sam MUST return, but frankly Mickey Mouse would be a better owner of Cardiff city than what we are subjected to right now.

Right on cue here’s one who won’t ever give Tan credit.

If Tan found a cure for cancer Barclay1 would say what took the prick so long. Tan out.

One thing is absolutely certain,the regime's time is up and they MUST GO! I've been saying this for years, and the predicament we now find ourselves in is one I anticpated then. In fact, im surprised we held on and are still in the Championship this year.

I take no pleasure in thinking I was probably right....

If there's a chance Sam MUST return, but frankly Mickey Mouse would be a better owner of Cardiff city than what we are subjected to right now.

Right on cue here’s one who won’t ever give Tan credit.

If Tan found a cure for cancer Barclay1 would say what took the prick so long. Tan out.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=230982

One thing is absolutely certain,the regime's time is up and they MUST GO! I've been saying this for years, and the predicament we now find ourselves in is one I anticpated then. In fact, im surprised we held on and are still in the Championship this year.

I take no pleasure in thinking I was probably right....

If there's a chance Sam MUST return, but frankly Mickey Mouse would be a better owner of Cardiff city than what we are subjected to right now.

Right on cue here’s one who won’t ever give Tan credit.

If Tan found a cure for cancer Barclay1 would say what took the prick so long. Tan out.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=230982

What has the other topic in the link got to do with this one ?

The other topic is just you asking questions with no actual evidence behind them !! Show the evidence then we’ll be able to have a decent discussion.

Something you’d like to tell us ?

Back to the original post, but on it’s head, will the playing staff and fans receive fair treatment? It’s not about him.

Last time he was here, they didn’t. It was paper thin bolony. We need stability.

One thing is absolutely certain,the regime's time is up and they MUST GO! I've been saying this for years, and the predicament we now find ourselves in is one I anticpated then. In fact, im surprised we held on and are still in the Championship this year.

I take no pleasure in thinking I was probably right....

If there's a chance Sam MUST return, but frankly Mickey Mouse would be a better owner of Cardiff city than what we are subjected to right now.

Right on cue here’s one who won’t ever give Tan credit.

If Tan found a cure for cancer Barclay1 would say what took the prick so long. Tan out.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=230982

What has the other topic in the link got to do with this one ?

The other topic is just you asking questions with no actual evidence behind them !! Show the evidence then we’ll be able to have a decent discussion.

Something you’d like to tell us ?

Yeah I thought that.

We have been in embargoes before then ended up signing players so I’ll take this with a pinch of salt until I see it officially.

two questions

would tan sell to sam?

why would a 75 year old want to buy a football club?

two questions

would tan sell to sam?

why would a 75 year old want to buy a football club?

Well according to Annis (and I’ve no reason not to believe him) Sam has bid twice to buy the club?
He’s been refused twice and it’s been pretty much common knowledge that he won’t sell to Sam as this proves if true.

The whole thread is hypothetical in that case.

I’m all for a change in ownership but, for me, Sam is a big no.

Let’s hope we can get a fresh start if and when we are sold.