OT: DRAKEFORD 'LOCKS' WALES DOWN FROM MIDNIGHT TONIGHT!

No 100 post threads, no complaints from the posters on here - Let's complain about Drakeford instead who introduced EXACTLY THE SAME measures as the tories introduced in England on the same day.

o sort of agree...but please explain how non essential items in super markets were so important last time, proper not budging... not so important this time... or will that be changed when its pointed out it doesnt make sense....

I'm not saying he's perfect mate far from it, but if you're going to close a small local business which sells books, toys etc why let a big super market chain chain reap the benefits of selling the exact same items in store? If businesses are only selling essentials it will also reduce footfall.

Not sure why this wasn't thought of sooner but I don't think any gov. will claim they've acted perfectly in the first lockdown as all were pretty much making it up as they went on, if governments realised they made mistakes in the first lockdown/first few months of Covid and change the rules I don't think that's a bad thing, just learning as we go on.

hmmm..the first lockdown... over zealous police in some parts were patrolling non essential aisles until it was cleared up that if a shop was open, you could buy whatever that shop had in stock... Drakeford made a real point of changing that for his firebreak... and its that sort of pettiness that people get peed with...

I know it was a while ago now mate but I do not remember police officers patrolling super markets looking for people who were buying non essential items?!

No 100 post threads, no complaints from the posters on here - Let's complain about Drakeford instead who introduced EXACTLY THE SAME measures as the tories introduced in England on the same day.

o sort of agree...but please explain how non essential items in super markets were so important last time, proper not budging... not so important this time... or will that be changed when its pointed out it doesnt make sense....

I'm not saying he's perfect mate far from it, but if you're going to close a small local business which sells books, toys etc why let a big super market chain chain reap the benefits of selling the exact same items in store? If businesses are only selling essentials it will also reduce footfall.

Not sure why this wasn't thought of sooner but I don't think any gov. will claim they've acted perfectly in the first lockdown as all were pretty much making it up as they went on, if governments realised they made mistakes in the first lockdown/first few months of Covid and change the rules I don't think that's a bad thing, just learning as we go on.

hmmm..the first lockdown... over zealous police in some parts were patrolling non essential aisles until it was cleared up that if a shop was open, you could buy whatever that shop had in stock... Drakeford made a real point of changing that for his firebreak... and its that sort of pettiness that people get peed with...

I know it was a while ago now mate but I do not remember police officers patrolling super markets looking for people who were buying non essential items?!

I could be wrong (I f*cking hope not though!).

No 100 post threads, no complaints from the posters on here - Let's complain about Drakeford instead who introduced EXACTLY THE SAME measures as the tories introduced in England on the same day.

o sort of agree...but please explain how non essential items in super markets were so important last time, proper not budging... not so important this time... or will that be changed when its pointed out it doesnt make sense....

I'm not saying he's perfect mate far from it, but if you're going to close a small local business which sells books, toys etc why let a big super market chain chain reap the benefits of selling the exact same items in store? If businesses are only selling essentials it will also reduce footfall.

Not sure why this wasn't thought of sooner but I don't think any gov. will claim they've acted perfectly in the first lockdown as all were pretty much making it up as they went on, if governments realised they made mistakes in the first lockdown/first few months of Covid and change the rules I don't think that's a bad thing, just learning as we go on.

hmmm..the first lockdown... over zealous police in some parts were patrolling non essential aisles until it was cleared up that if a shop was open, you could buy whatever that shop had in stock... Drakeford made a real point of changing that for his firebreak... and its that sort of pettiness that people get peed with...

I know it was a while ago now mate but I do not remember police officers patrolling super markets looking for people who were buying non essential items?!

I could be wrong (I f*cking hope not though!).

it wasnt widespread but happened..which is what brought on the government announcement i referred to..
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/p ... 11991.html

No 100 post threads, no complaints from the posters on here - Let's complain about Drakeford instead who introduced EXACTLY THE SAME measures as the tories introduced in England on the same day.

o sort of agree...but please explain how non essential items in super markets were so important last time, proper not budging... not so important this time... or will that be changed when its pointed out it doesnt make sense....

I'm not saying he's perfect mate far from it, but if you're going to close a small local business which sells books, toys etc why let a big super market chain chain reap the benefits of selling the exact same items in store? If businesses are only selling essentials it will also reduce footfall.

Not sure why this wasn't thought of sooner but I don't think any gov. will claim they've acted perfectly in the first lockdown as all were pretty much making it up as they went on, if governments realised they made mistakes in the first lockdown/first few months of Covid and change the rules I don't think that's a bad thing, just learning as we go on.

hmmm..the first lockdown... over zealous police in some parts were patrolling non essential aisles until it was cleared up that if a shop was open, you could buy whatever that shop had in stock... Drakeford made a real point of changing that for his firebreak... and its that sort of pettiness that people get peed with...

I know it was a while ago now mate but I do not remember police officers patrolling super markets looking for people who were buying non essential items?!

I could be wrong (I f*cking hope not though!).

it wasnt widespread but happened..which is what brought on the government announcement i referred to..
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/p ... 11991.html

Fair enough that was in England though so don't think it really relates to Drakeford's announcement on supermarkets/non-essential shops as what happened in Cambridge was totally out of his control.

No 100 post threads, no complaints from the posters on here - Let's complain about Drakeford instead who introduced EXACTLY THE SAME measures as the tories introduced in England on the same day.

o sort of agree...but please explain how non essential items in super markets were so important last time, proper not budging... not so important this time... or will that be changed when its pointed out it doesnt make sense....

I'm not saying he's perfect mate far from it, but if you're going to close a small local business which sells books, toys etc why let a big super market chain chain reap the benefits of selling the exact same items in store? If businesses are only selling essentials it will also reduce footfall.

Not sure why this wasn't thought of sooner but I don't think any gov. will claim they've acted perfectly in the first lockdown as all were pretty much making it up as they went on, if governments realised they made mistakes in the first lockdown/first few months of Covid and change the rules I don't think that's a bad thing, just learning as we go on.

hmmm..the first lockdown... over zealous police in some parts were patrolling non essential aisles until it was cleared up that if a shop was open, you could buy whatever that shop had in stock... Drakeford made a real point of changing that for his firebreak... and its that sort of pettiness that people get peed with...

I know it was a while ago now mate but I do not remember police officers patrolling super markets looking for people who were buying non essential items?!

I could be wrong (I f*cking hope not though!).

it wasnt widespread but happened..which is what brought on the government announcement i referred to..
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/p ... 11991.html

Fair enough that was in England though so don't think it really relates to Drakeford's announcement on supermarkets/non-essential shops as what happened in Cambridge was totally out of his control.

it was the UK lockdown which included us...but my point was more to do with the clarification than the police... and how when Drakeford took the reigns he seemed not able to resist the change... which now doesnt seem so important..

No 100 post threads, no complaints from the posters on here - Let's complain about Drakeford instead who introduced EXACTLY THE SAME measures as the tories introduced in England on the same day.

o sort of agree...but please explain how non essential items in super markets were so important last time, proper not budging... not so important this time... or will that be changed when its pointed out it doesnt make sense....

I'm not saying he's perfect mate far from it, but if you're going to close a small local business which sells books, toys etc why let a big super market chain chain reap the benefits of selling the exact same items in store? If businesses are only selling essentials it will also reduce footfall.

Not sure why this wasn't thought of sooner but I don't think any gov. will claim they've acted perfectly in the first lockdown as all were pretty much making it up as they went on, if governments realised they made mistakes in the first lockdown/first few months of Covid and change the rules I don't think that's a bad thing, just learning as we go on.

hmmm..the first lockdown... over zealous police in some parts were patrolling non essential aisles until it was cleared up that if a shop was open, you could buy whatever that shop had in stock... Drakeford made a real point of changing that for his firebreak... and its that sort of pettiness that people get peed with...

I know it was a while ago now mate but I do not remember police officers patrolling super markets looking for people who were buying non essential items?!

I could be wrong (I f*cking hope not though!).

it wasnt widespread but happened..which is what brought on the government announcement i referred to..
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/p ... 11991.html

Fair enough that was in England though so don't think it really relates to Drakeford's announcement on supermarkets/non-essential shops as what happened in Cambridge was totally out of his control.

Unless

Boris and England doing something....followed by Drakeford disagreeing and introducing a new policy = Wales' fault for not complying.

In which case I'd hate to see what some on here think about Drakeford's radical policy of reversing Boris' decision to go into a COVID positive ward and shaking the hand of every COVID patient in sight back in March.

Stark reading in the independent
tonight
Much of the UK will stay in lock down until vast numbers have been vaccinated.
Almost a war footing.
The Channel blocked off.

No 100 post threads, no complaints from the posters on here - Let's complain about Drakeford instead who introduced EXACTLY THE SAME measures as the tories introduced in England on the same day.

o sort of agree...but please explain how non essential items in super markets were so important last time, proper not budging... not so important this time... or will that be changed when its pointed out it doesnt make sense....

I'm not saying he's perfect mate far from it, but if you're going to close a small local business which sells books, toys etc why let a big super market chain chain reap the benefits of selling the exact same items in store? If businesses are only selling essentials it will also reduce footfall.

Not sure why this wasn't thought of sooner but I don't think any gov. will claim they've acted perfectly in the first lockdown as all were pretty much making it up as they went on, if governments realised they made mistakes in the first lockdown/first few months of Covid and change the rules I don't think that's a bad thing, just learning as we go on.

hmmm..the first lockdown... over zealous police in some parts were patrolling non essential aisles until it was cleared up that if a shop was open, you could buy whatever that shop had in stock... Drakeford made a real point of changing that for his firebreak... and its that sort of pettiness that people get peed with...

I know it was a while ago now mate but I do not remember police officers patrolling super markets looking for people who were buying non essential items?!

I could be wrong (I f*cking hope not though!).

it wasnt widespread but happened..which is what brought on the government announcement i referred to..
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/p ... 11991.html

Fair enough that was in England though so don't think it really relates to Drakeford's announcement on supermarkets/non-essential shops as what happened in Cambridge was totally out of his control.

it was the UK lockdown which included us...but my point was more to do with the clarification than the police... and how when Drakeford took the reigns he seemed not able to resist the change... which now doesnt seem so important..

It wasn't a UK lockdown we had our own powers which we exercised - As per my previous comment there are reasons why he felt the need to 'resist the change'.

No 100 post threads, no complaints from the posters on here - Let's complain about Drakeford instead who introduced EXACTLY THE SAME measures as the tories introduced in England on the same day.

o sort of agree...but please explain how non essential items in super markets were so important last time, proper not budging... not so important this time... or will that be changed when its pointed out it doesnt make sense....

I'm not saying he's perfect mate far from it, but if you're going to close a small local business which sells books, toys etc why let a big super market chain chain reap the benefits of selling the exact same items in store? If businesses are only selling essentials it will also reduce footfall.

Not sure why this wasn't thought of sooner but I don't think any gov. will claim they've acted perfectly in the first lockdown as all were pretty much making it up as they went on, if governments realised they made mistakes in the first lockdown/first few months of Covid and change the rules I don't think that's a bad thing, just learning as we go on.

hmmm..the first lockdown... over zealous police in some parts were patrolling non essential aisles until it was cleared up that if a shop was open, you could buy whatever that shop had in stock... Drakeford made a real point of changing that for his firebreak... and its that sort of pettiness that people get peed with...

I know it was a while ago now mate but I do not remember police officers patrolling super markets looking for people who were buying non essential items?!

I could be wrong (I f*cking hope not though!).

it wasnt widespread but happened..which is what brought on the government announcement i referred to..
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/p ... 11991.html

Fair enough that was in England though so don't think it really relates to Drakeford's announcement on supermarkets/non-essential shops as what happened in Cambridge was totally out of his control.

it was the UK lockdown which included us...but my point was more to do with the clarification than the police... and how when Drakeford took the reigns he seemed not able to resist the change... which now doesnt seem so important..

It wasn't a UK lockdown we had our own powers which we exercised - As per my previous comment there are reasons why he felt the need to 'resist the change'.

at what point did he start making independent decisions ? i thought the initial lockdown was UK, at least at the beginning ?
not that it matters because every time he has been asked for evidence to back actions ...it doesnt appear...

Last edited by skidemin on Mon Dec 21, 2020 12:25 am, edited 1 time in total.

And people said you cant cancel xmas when I asked question a couple of months ago? Well may as well been cancelled it will be me the other half and the cat for xmas dinner !
Bet lots people without presents because last minute shopping is off the agenda.

The greatest present will be to still be alive next Christmas.

at what point did he start making independent decisions ? i thought the initial lockdown was UK, at least at the beginning ?
not that it matters because every time he has been asked for evidence to back actions ...it doesnt appear...

Not sure what you mean by 'at what point did he start making independent decisions' - But if you want to fight that corner I'll gladly allow you to do so against the idiots on this thread who will argue that Drakeford is a failure when the tories and Boris are introducing virtually identical policies over the bridge!

Vaugn gethin says he wants to come down hard on mass gatherings
May i suggest he starts with un policed areas such as supermarkets and schools
It seems to be a free for all in both especially supermarkets no one way systems and now pubs and other shops have closed your more likely to catch the disease in a supermarket than anywhere else.

Just been to Tesco, free to buy whatever you want, not much social distancing going on and a few people without masks.

Vaugn gethin says he wants to come down hard on mass gatherings
May i suggest he starts with un policed areas such as supermarkets and schools
It seems to be a free for all in both especially supermarkets no one way systems and now pubs and other shops have closed your more likely to catch the disease in a supermarket than anywhere else.

yes and there actually is evidence of supermarkets being hotspots and supermarket workers being far more likely to get it / be carriers.... its much easier to blame other things and give the public an imaginary enemy though....

Just been to Tesco, free to buy whatever you want, not much social distancing going on and a few people without masks.

I also noticed lately people wearing no mask as well and no ID badge saying got disability cant wear mask.. ( I have one) but shop staff told not to challenge people at all if no mask on well not in local tesco here!

And people said you cant cancel xmas when I asked question a couple of months ago? Well may as well been cancelled it will be me the other half and the cat for xmas dinner !
Bet lots people without presents because last minute shopping is off the agenda.

The greatest present will be to still be alive next Christmas.

Just been to Tesco, free to buy whatever you want, not much social distancing going on and a few people without masks.

Yes they are leaving customers to decide whats essential as there is small signs on toys etc saying please only buy whats essential.

And people said you cant cancel xmas when I asked question a couple of months ago? Well may as well been cancelled it will be me the other half and the cat for xmas dinner !
Bet lots people without presents because last minute shopping is off the agenda.

The greatest present will be to still be alive next Christmas.

indeed but thats every year though....

And people said you cant cancel xmas when I asked question a couple of months ago? Well may as well been cancelled it will be me the other half and the cat for xmas dinner !
Bet lots people without presents because last minute shopping is off the agenda.

The greatest present will be to still be alive next Christmas.

indeed but thats every year though....

Im just grateful as each year passes,f@ck Christmas,every day is a bonus!

And people said you cant cancel xmas when I asked question a couple of months ago? Well may as well been cancelled it will be me the other half and the cat for xmas dinner !
Bet lots people without presents because last minute shopping is off the agenda.

The greatest present will be to still be alive next Christmas.

indeed but thats every year though....

Im just grateful as each year passes,f@ck Christmas,every day is a bonus!

How's your motivational speaking job going?

Not seen our esteemed leader on the telly lately, nothing trivial I hope?

Not seen our esteemed leader on the telly lately, nothing trivial I hope?

Apparently reports from the weekend - He's got a cold

Not seen our esteemed leader on the telly lately, nothing trivial I hope?

Apparently reports from the weekend - He's got a cold

Not seen our esteemed leader on the telly lately, nothing trivial I hope?

Apparently reports from the weekend - He's got a cold

The heating must have packed up in the shed he lives in!

Not seen our esteemed leader on the telly lately, nothing trivial I hope?

Apparently reports from the weekend - He's got a cold

The heating must have packed up in the shed he lives in!

you couldnt make it up could you...

Not seen our esteemed leader on the telly lately, nothing trivial I hope?

Apparently reports from the weekend - He's got a cold

The heating must have packed up in the shed he lives in!

you couldnt make it up could you...

He makes it up so why not us!

So he has Christmas off work. How convenient.

So he has Christmas off work. How convenient.

Well he needs a bit time off after making so many decisions must be tired!

And people said you cant cancel xmas when I asked question a couple of months ago? Well may as well been cancelled it will be me the other half and the cat for xmas dinner !
Bet lots people without presents because last minute shopping is off the agenda.

Eating your cat tomorrow. Shame.

And people said you cant cancel xmas when I asked question a couple of months ago? Well may as well been cancelled it will be me the other half and the cat for xmas dinner !
Bet lots people without presents because last minute shopping is off the agenda.

Eating your cat tomorrow. Shame.

Yes prefer to be on my usual beach in Antigua eating chicken But hey oh wet windy west wales will have to do until next year!...