Well done Millwall

Interesting from Rowet....
Millwall manager Gary Rowett, who saw Jason Knight grab Derby's winner, expressed his disappointment on Saturday but said his players were concerned that taking the knee was in danger of becoming an "empty" gesture.

He said: "The players have released a statement together and said they don't support it (taking the knee) as a political message but support anti-discrimination.

"Moving forward, like a lot of clubs, they would prefer not to take the knee and actually enact change.

The thing is whether you support BLM or not it’s gone on for far too long.Imagine ‘the Help for heroes,Whitts minutes silence,Rememberance Sunday’and other things which have taking place before kick Off going on week after week.
People soon be fed up.

Are there any supporters of the BLM movement on here who currently support Priti Patel and her determination to deport convicted criminals from this country ? Whether that to be to Jamaica with the recent publicised case or any other convicted criminals to anywhere else.

Rumours abound that one of Millwalls players has put in a transfer request after the booing incident. He publicly slated the fans.

Will be interesting to see how that plays out.

Are there any supporters of the BLM movement on here who currently support Priti Patel and her determination to deport convicted criminals from this country ? Whether that to be to Jamaica with the recent publicised case or any other convicted criminals to anywhere else.

why would anyone who supports BLM whose aims include defunding the police and leaving thousands out of our prisons also support this move by Pritti Patel... ?

Interesting from Rowet....
Millwall manager Gary Rowett, who saw Jason Knight grab Derby's winner, expressed his disappointment on Saturday but said his players were concerned that taking the knee was in danger of becoming an "empty" gesture.

He said: "The players have released a statement together and said they don't support it (taking the knee) as a political message but support anti-discrimination.

"Moving forward, like a lot of clubs, they would prefer not to take the knee and actually enact change.

Yes and when the moves to actually enact change are made, the same posters on here will complain that black people are being given jobs because of the colour of their skin

This is copied and pasted from a good Millwall mate.

Anyone on my friend list that think Millwall fans booed the players for taking a knee before yesterdays game because we are racist can remove themselves.
Millwall has a very diverse crowd base for a start.
Secondly, I've been a Millwall fan since 1970 and I'm telling you now a hell of a lot of our finest have been and are now black and we have stood shoulder to shoulder up and down the country against any and all opposition.
Millwall fans booed because BLM are a self proclaimed Marxist far left group closely aligned with Antifa who earlier this year desecrated our war memorials, pulled down historic monuments and are trying to rewrite our history.
Taking the knee in my humble opinion is a racist act in itself because it celebrates one skin colour over all others, the very definition of prejudice.
ALL LIVES MATTER. END OF.
I am sick and tired of all this signal culture bollocks, a good person is a good person regardless of skin colour. END OF.
A Slag is a slag regardless of skin colour. END OF

I just don’t understand why the need to boo taking the knee unless there are racist undertones?

By all means disagree with the action but why boo ? Just ignore the action.

Plenty of people disagree with similar actions such as a minutes silence for the death of some figures or even war commémorations but they don’t boo the action.

I personally don’t have a problem with players taking the knee, but nor do I think players should be shamed into it. If they feel strongly for it then do it and we should let them show that support for their colleagues.

Just one final point. If anyone seriously thinks that there isn’t a racism problem at Millwall FC in particular then we really do have a problem ! Most fans in the UK would have put money in this happening at either Millwall or Leeds and anyone denying that needs to educate themselves about some of their fan groups.

This is copied and pasted from a good Millwall mate.

Anyone on my friend list that think Millwall fans booed the players for taking a knee before yesterdays game because we are racist can remove themselves.
Millwall has a very diverse crowd base for a start.
Secondly, I've been a Millwall fan since 1970 and I'm telling you now a hell of a lot of our finest have been and are now black and we have stood shoulder to shoulder up and down the country against any and all opposition.
Millwall fans booed because BLM are a self proclaimed Marxist far left group closely aligned with Antifa who earlier this year desecrated our war memorials, pulled down historic monuments and are trying to rewrite our history.
Taking the knee in my humble opinion is a racist act in itself because it celebrates one skin colour over all others, the very definition of prejudice.
ALL LIVES MATTER. END OF.
I am sick and tired of all this signal culture bollocks, a good person is a good person regardless of skin colour. END OF.
A Slag is a slag regardless of skin colour. END OF

why don't people realise that this blm bullshit promoted by our ruling classes ?????????
you know the pricks who own everything now love Marxist race baiting morons,
ever heard of divide and rule that's all this is , they want the people at the bottom at war,
while they screw us all whatever skin colours or race.

This is all planned they despise you and your familes and any fool who falls for this con is a no nothing fool.

just like Brexit will now be betrayed and the fbi/cia spent 4 years destroying trump , we have owners and they don't give a shit what you want.

Video

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zMGn4MjHKVs

its wrong, people are being forced to take the knee and if they dont they are called racist.
Its gone to far now, it has to stop or more fans will end up booing.

Funny how we're 5 pages in and no one has actually said that players don't take the knee for the blm movement as the FA has incorporated it into their own anti discrimination schemes and the millwall players have said they aren't doing it politically.

I'm sure the usual people will be here desperately trying to justify that it is terribly evil so they don't have to actually listen to the message.

Funny how we're 5 pages in and no one has actually said that players don't take the knee for the blm movement as the FA has incorporated it into their own anti discrimination schemes and the millwall players have said they aren't doing it politically.

I'm sure the usual people will be here desperately trying to justify that it is terribly evil so they don't have to actually listen to the message.

So what is the message?

I can see both arguments on this. But us folk in South Wales have no idea what it’s like in the US and police brutality etc. Let’s not pretend we fully understand the true extent of what happens over the pond within certain states. Some of the comments are quite funny on this thread.

I don’t think footballers or fans should be getting involved in something thousands of miles away. It makes footballers look pretentious and fans look thick as pig shit. Of course if your in the know - study American politics, lived in America, experienced racism, well versed in American law - then fair enough.

But Dai Davies from Merthyr who’s only ever holidayed in Porthcawl really does have no say. Oh no, wait, he reads forums. Lol lol lol lol lol.

Funny how we're 5 pages in and no one has actually said that players don't take the knee for the blm movement as the FA has incorporated it into their own anti discrimination schemes and the millwall players have said they aren't doing it politically.

I'm sure the usual people will be here desperately trying to justify that it is terribly evil so they don't have to actually listen to the message.

Josh grow up you big fanny perhaps you are surrounded by racists and Nazis the rest of us aren't.
thick as dogshit

Funny how we're 5 pages in and no one has actually said that players don't take the knee for the blm movement as the FA has incorporated it into their own anti discrimination schemes and the millwall players have said they aren't doing it politically.

I'm sure the usual people will be here desperately trying to justify that it is terribly evil so they don't have to actually listen to the message.

Josh grow up you big fanny perhaps you are surrounded by racists and Nazis the rest of us aren't.
thick as dogshit

Didn't answer his question but instead wrote a whole post with the purpose of calling someone names over an anonymous message board. Hard as nails mate.

Millwall fans have their say
Link

https://millwall-forum.vitalfootball.co ... gan.45598/

Funny how we're 5 pages in and no one has actually said that players don't take the knee for the blm movement as the FA has incorporated it into their own anti discrimination schemes and the millwall players have said they aren't doing it politically.

I'm sure the usual people will be here desperately trying to justify that it is terribly evil so they don't have to actually listen to the message.

Josh grow up you big fanny perhaps you are surrounded by racists and Nazis the rest of us aren't.
thick as dogshit

Didn't answer his question but instead wrote a whole post with the purpose of calling someone names over an anonymous message board. Hard as nails mate.

LOL I forgot speech is violence,

heres the answer woke is nonsense created by the guilty upper middles classes which has dumbed down an entire genrration
just look at prince harry ?????????

BLm are Marxist drivel and you have been conned buddy.

Either the players are thick or Marxists or both. The fact is, BLM are white haters who want the end of white participation in all forms. when I watch and cheer and sign the songs at the City, I don't see black or white players, I see City players. The booing is not racist, it is showing the players they don't have to take the knee to stop racism. we don't have a problem at the City, but the more players, Sky Sports and the rest of the MSM ram it down our throats the more the people will resent and respond to it. Stop taking the knee, keep politics out of sport and just get on with what they are paid to do.

Funny how we're 5 pages in and no one has actually said that players don't take the knee for the blm movement as the FA has incorporated it into their own anti discrimination schemes and the millwall players have said they aren't doing it politically.

I'm sure the usual people will be here desperately trying to justify that it is terribly evil so they don't have to actually listen to the message.

but they started off doing it in support of BLM...and its actually still being reported as in support of BLM...

desperately...is what the dont get it unless its in big writing on google... and a few others seem to be doing...its simple. drop the gesture.. the nazi salute IS the nazi salute..try doing it and then try telling people its not anymore as its now just something thats been incorporated into joshism.... it would be desperate and pathetic....

its not difficult.. people are not Peed off with kick it out....

Funny how we're 5 pages in and no one has actually said that players don't take the knee for the blm movement as the FA has incorporated it into their own anti discrimination schemes and the millwall players have said they aren't doing it politically.

I'm sure the usual people will be here desperately trying to justify that it is terribly evil so they don't have to actually listen to the message.

but they started off doing it in support of BLM...and its actually still being reported as in support of BLM...

desperately...is what the dont get it unless its in big writing on google... and a few others seem to be doing...its simple. drop the gesture.. the nazi salute IS the nazi salute..try doing it and then try telling people its not anymore as its now just something thats been incorporated into joshism.... it would be desperate and pathetic....

its not difficult.. people are not Peed off with kick it out..
but as youve pointed out in this thread { although i dont think you grasped it } people will push back against extremists......

I just don’t understand why the need to boo taking the knee unless there are racist undertones?

By all means disagree with the action but why boo ? Just ignore the action.

Plenty of people disagree with similar actions such as a minutes silence for the death of some figures or even war commémorations but they don’t boo the action.

I personally don’t have a problem with players taking the knee, but nor do I think players should be shamed into it. If they feel strongly for it then do it and we should let them show that support for their colleagues.

Just one final point. If anyone seriously thinks that there isn’t a racism problem at Millwall FC in particular then we really do have a problem ! Most fans in the UK would have put money in this happening at either Millwall or Leeds and anyone denying that needs to educate themselves about some of their fan groups.

you see it as similar to a minutes silence...and rememberance sunday ?

Either the players are thick or Marxists or both. The fact is, BLM are white haters who want the end of white participation in all forms. when I watch and cheer and sign the songs at the City, I don't see black or white players, I see City players. The booing is not racist, it is showing the players they don't have to take the knee to stop racism. we don't have a problem at the City, but the more players, Sky Sports and the rest of the MSM ram it down our throats the more the people will resent and respond to it. Stop taking the knee, keep politics out of sport and just get on with what they are paid to do.

Its not the players fault its where their bread and butter comes from , the money class have decided we are racist,
not them mind they are enlightened !!!!!! you know the ones who all signed on for the destroying or people with brown skins in Libya/yemen/Iraq Syria and soon to come iran and probably Syria again.

The aim is to divide the working class and distract them why else would this come up within a pandemic ??????

The intersectionality brigade are a different outfit they are evil and very very racist.

I can see both arguments on this. But us folk in South Wales have no idea what it’s like in the US and police brutality etc. Let’s not pretend we fully understand the true extent of what happens over the pond within certain states. Some of the comments are quite funny on this thread.

I don’t think footballers or fans should be getting involved in something thousands of miles away. It makes footballers look pretentious and fans look thick as pig shit. Of course if your in the know - study American politics, lived in America, experienced racism, well versed in American law - then fair enough.

But Dai Davies from Merthyr who’s only ever holidayed in Porthcawl really does have no say. Oh no, wait, he reads forums. Lol lol lol lol lol.

correct mate nobody should be getting involved in what goes on in the USA.. one of our players put that on twitter but is now out there taking the knee { and how many others are doing it out of not wanting to be singled out and name called } } .. this is 100% pressured into doing it and is wrong... fans have only got involved as push back to an extremist mob.....but push back and your a racist.... how can that be correct and explain to me how you see that side of it...i do not...

I just don’t understand why the need to boo taking the knee unless there are racist undertones?

By all means disagree with the action but why boo ? Just ignore the action.

Plenty of people disagree with similar actions such as a minutes silence for the death of some figures or even war commémorations but they don’t boo the action.

I personally don’t have a problem with players taking the knee, but nor do I think players should be shamed into it. If they feel strongly for it then do it and we should let them show that support for their colleagues.

Just one final point. If anyone seriously thinks that there isn’t a racism problem at Millwall FC in particular then we really do have a problem ! Most fans in the UK would have put money in this happening at either Millwall or Leeds and anyone denying that needs to educate themselves about some of their fan groups.

you see it as similar to a minutes silence...and rememberance sunday ?

Only in that It is a public acknowledgment of a cause. For many, not as impactful, but the point is that those opposed to such recognition don’t boo.

I just think it’s completely unnecessary to boo any such public actions. If you don’t like it, ignore it, turn your back on it, etc.

As for Millwall, it had to be them didn’t it ? Racism is endemic in some of their supporters groups, like it or not it’s there.

Well done to QPR who will now take the knee in support of anti-racism just because they are playing Millwall. They previously didn’t take the knee but recognise the need to take a stand after the Millwall “protest”.

I just don’t understand why the need to boo taking the knee unless there are racist undertones?

By all means disagree with the action but why boo ? Just ignore the action.

Plenty of people disagree with similar actions such as a minutes silence for the death of some figures or even war commémorations but they don’t boo the action.

I personally don’t have a problem with players taking the knee, but nor do I think players should be shamed into it. If they feel strongly for it then do it and we should let them show that support for their colleagues.

Just one final point. If anyone seriously thinks that there isn’t a racism problem at Millwall FC in particular then we really do have a problem ! Most fans in the UK would have put money in this happening at either Millwall or Leeds and anyone denying that needs to educate themselves about some of their fan groups.

you see it as similar to a minutes silence...and rememberance sunday ?

Only in that It is a public acknowledgment of a cause. For many, not as impactful, but the point is that those opposed to such recognition don’t boo.

I just think it’s completely unnecessary to boo any such public actions. If you don’t like it, ignore it, turn your back on it, etc.

As for Millwall, it had to be them didn’t it ? Racism is endemic in some of their supporters groups, like it or not it’s there.

Well done to QPR who will now take the knee in support of anti-racism just because they are playing Millwall. They previously didn’t take the knee but recognise the need to take a stand after the Millwall “protest”.

yes well done on making this a p155ing competition instead of having a good look and listening to what issues people have.... and maybe stopping things that are divisive....

this shouting people down , pressuring people to conform even when they have genuine concerns and mob rule runs right through history... and its never good...

I just don’t understand why the need to boo taking the knee unless there are racist undertones?

By all means disagree with the action but why boo ? Just ignore the action.

Plenty of people disagree with similar actions such as a minutes silence for the death of some figures or even war commémorations but they don’t boo the action.

I personally don’t have a problem with players taking the knee, but nor do I think players should be shamed into it. If they feel strongly for it then do it and we should let them show that support for their colleagues.

Just one final point. If anyone seriously thinks that there isn’t a racism problem at Millwall FC in particular then we really do have a problem ! Most fans in the UK would have put money in this happening at either Millwall or Leeds and anyone denying that needs to educate themselves about some of their fan groups.

you see it as similar to a minutes silence...and rememberance sunday ?

Only in that It is a public acknowledgment of a cause. For many, not as impactful, but the point is that those opposed to such recognition don’t boo.

I just think it’s completely unnecessary to boo any such public actions. If you don’t like it, ignore it, turn your back on it, etc.

As for Millwall, it had to be them didn’t it ? Racism is endemic in some of their supporters groups, like it or not it’s there.

Well done to QPR who will now take the knee in support of anti-racism just because they are playing Millwall. They previously didn’t take the knee but recognise the need to take a stand after the Millwall “protest”.

yes well done on making this a p155ing competition instead of having a good look and listening to what issues people have.... and maybe stopping things that are divisive....

this shouting people down , pressuring people to conform even when they have genuine concerns and mob rule runs right through history... and its never good...

Where am I making this a competition ?

I'm the one arguing for tolerance but it seems tolerance only goes one way in your world.

We ain't going to agree on this and that's fine. But don't misrepresent what I've said. Read it, ignore it if you like, but don't tell me what I've said when I clearly haven't !!

I just don’t understand why the need to boo taking the knee unless there are racist undertones?

By all means disagree with the action but why boo ? Just ignore the action.

Plenty of people disagree with similar actions such as a minutes silence for the death of some figures or even war commémorations but they don’t boo the action.

I personally don’t have a problem with players taking the knee, but nor do I think players should be shamed into it. If they feel strongly for it then do it and we should let them show that support for their colleagues.

Just one final point. If anyone seriously thinks that there isn’t a racism problem at Millwall FC in particular then we really do have a problem ! Most fans in the UK would have put money in this happening at either Millwall or Leeds and anyone denying that needs to educate themselves about some of their fan groups.

you see it as similar to a minutes silence...and rememberance sunday ?

Only in that It is a public acknowledgment of a cause. For many, not as impactful, but the point is that those opposed to such recognition don’t boo.

I just think it’s completely unnecessary to boo any such public actions. If you don’t like it, ignore it, turn your back on it, etc.

As for Millwall, it had to be them didn’t it ? Racism is endemic in some of their supporters groups, like it or not it’s there.

Well done to QPR who will now take the knee in support of anti-racism just because they are playing Millwall. They previously didn’t take the knee but recognise the need to take a stand after the Millwall “protest”.

That will not end well

One of the strangest things I've heard today is an Asian political commentator on The (lunchtime) Politics Show slating anyone who booed at Millwall but then stating "The Millwall supporters should not have booed their own black players for [i]'taking the knee' in support of their wider black community"

Hang on a second though, I saw the footage and I believe I saw players of BOTH colours (black and white) 'taking the knee' in support of each other

I am not a supporter of the a-political BLM but I can see why the Colin Kapernick (not BLM) inspired 'taking of the knee' might be relevant and acceptable in its proper context

I will NEVER accept the Olympic 'fist pump' that was designed as a militant defiance in a different time even in the USA

Perhaps if they just took the knee without the raised fist pump black power it would not draw a reaction