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Re: OT: 'THE DONALD' EDGES TOWARDS THE DOOR

Sun Nov 08, 2020 12:44 am

ealing_ayatollah wrote:
Jimmy Scoular wrote: His legacy is one of trawling up all the old hatreds
divisiveness

Like brokering peace between Israel and Bahrain, UAE and Sudan, and also between Kosovo and Serbia, deescalating a situation in Iran that almost certainly would have led to war under Obama, Clinton or Bush and bringing his troops home from the endless wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

What a war mongering b*stard, thank god he's gone.


He sold billions of dollars of top level military equipment to Arab countries so they could suppress their own populations, he also looked the other way when they clearly murdered civillians in embassies on foreign soil. This is how he encourages Arab nations to drop hostilities with Israel (and for the most part all of them now understand that country isn't going anywhere and regret their initial decisions).

As for de-escalating a situation with Iran, f*cking hell man he caused the situation by assasinating a top level Iranian general who was visiting Iraq, simply to give himself the appearance of a strongman in an election year (a typical strategy and usually an effective one).

The whole world will sleep easier tonight that is for damn sure. All except for Donald and the Jesusland areas of the USA, but they don't really matter anymore.

Re: OT: 'THE DONALD' EDGES TOWARDS THE DOOR

Sun Nov 08, 2020 1:02 am

Jimmy Scoular wrote:I am certainly not of the left but good riddance to this uneducated cretin. His legacy is one of trawling up all the old hatreds
divisiveness, playing on those to stupid to think for themselves and using it for his own ends. He is not a republican he is a Trumpian the self made man who was left $413 million. Now he is a civilian he is liable to the norms us ordinary folk are answerable for like paying taxes ! He is in serious debt, agencies can now access his dealing with impunity. He will probably flee the country to avoid jail or end up in the same prison as Ghislane Maxwell.........now there is a thought.

:ugeek: :ugeek: :ugeek: :ugeek: :ugeek: :ugeek:



your not of the left , Bob Woodward is impartial ,uneducated people get degrees and the moon is made of cheese... and yes he is going to jail :? that will fix the devisiveness ..good thinking there Holmes: thumbup:

Re: OT: 'THE DONALD' EDGES TOWARDS THE DOOR

Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:28 am

BroBlue wrote: He sold billions of dollars of top level military equipment to Arab countries so they could suppress their own populations, he also looked the other way when they clearly murdered civillians in embassies on foreign soil.


Like most US Presidents then. Oh except for Obama who just sent Iran billions of dollars in cash because they made a 'promise'

BroBlue wrote:This is how he encourages Arab nations to drop hostilities with Israel


Seeing as the tried and tested approach of bomb the shit out them and then sending in troops for years of war that never ends which started under Bush then was upheld by Clinton, Bush Jr and Obama hasn't worked - I'll take Trump's approach as a step in a better direction.

BroBlue wrote:(and for the most part all of them now understand that country isn't going anywhere and regret their initial decisions).


Maybe it is the way I'm reading this but it sounds like you're anticipating the collapsing of peace agreements with relish. Like I say may be reading that wrong but the way, I hope I am to be honest.


BroBlue wrote: for de-escalating a situation with Iran, f*cking hell man he caused the situation by assasinating a top level Iranian general who was visiting Iraq, simply to give himself the appearance of a strongman in an election year (a typical strategy and usually an effective one).


Might want to check the timeline here Sulameini was killed after Iran had twice attacked US (firstly an airbase and secondly the embassy). Iran then launched a major attack that was ultimately a lame duck response but with a missile attack sizeable enough that most US leaders would of reined down the old shock and awe. Trump saw Iran for what it was, a busted flush, and let it run its course without the need for further militaristic grandstanding.

BroBlue wrote:All except for Donald and the Jesusland areas of the USA, but they don't really matter anymore.


Why the need to drop unnecessary religious bigotry in at the end, again maybe I'm reading it wrong but there is a sneering tone to the way you phrase it, hinting at the fact that Christians are inferior to the enlightened folks like you.

It's interesting how commonplace little slight digs at Christians have become - you probably didn't even realise you were doing it. But I bet you ten a penny you wouldn't be so glib about a certain other religion if peace.

Re: OT: 'THE DONALD' EDGES TOWARDS THE DOOR

Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:30 am

CCFCJosh75 wrote:
ealing_ayatollah wrote:
Jimmy Scoular wrote: His legacy is one of trawling up all the old hatreds
divisiveness

Like brokering peace between Israel and Bahrain, UAE and Sudan, and also between Kosovo and Serbia, deescalating a situation in Iran that almost certainly would have led to war under Obama, Clinton or Bush and bringing his troops home from the endless wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

What a war mongering b*stard, thank god he's gone.

How on earth did trump manage to get Israel and the UAE to make peace? He must be a miracle worker to get middle eastern countries who weren't at war to sign a peace deal.

Hopefully he can push through an Iceland and Nigeria peace deal before he leaves.


He's leaving that one to Kerry Katona

Re: OT: 'THE DONALD' EDGES TOWARDS THE DOOR

Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:41 am

Welcome uncle Joe.....

Nothing changes..... At all.

Joe is a career politician who'll now need to grease the poles that got him there. Wall street are happy, bet Bernies people are happy with that :lol: :lol:
The left have an amazing trait of tearing strips out of each other, I don't expect that to change.

He won't give a rats arse about the EU or Brexit he'll have so much to worry about and the mid terms restart the election cycle.

The US is a busted flush, tell Joe to FO

Re: OT: 'THE DONALD' EDGES TOWARDS THE DOOR

Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:47 am

spikeferndale wrote:Danny Says your post @ 6.21pm tonight.

Can you explain to us mere mortals what you are trying to say.

Are you are talking absolute bollocks to make it sound that you know what you are talking about?

It makes no sense at all!!!!!!!!!


In short my take on all this is that the close outcome and the seeming failure by the democrats to take the Senate will dent the loony left‘s (it’s not just UK that has these) aim to create a new dawn of socialism. If I was American I would want Biden to build on the four main achievements of the Trump presidency: to carry on overhauling the tax system (and not repeal the Corporate Tax system); deregulation of more red tape to create new business (unlike Obama); the peace advances in the Middle East and not least continue to be strong on trade, but not be so isolationist especially with the UK.

Re: OT: 'THE DONALD' EDGES TOWARDS THE DOOR

Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:51 am

llan bluebird wrote:Welcome uncle Joe.....

Nothing changes..... At all.

Joe is a career politician who'll now need to grease the poles that got him there. Wall street are happy, bet Bernies people are happy with that :lol: :lol:
The left have an amazing trait of tearing strips out of each other, I don't expect that to change.

He won't give a rats arse about the EU or Brexit he'll have so much to worry about and the mid terms restart the election cycle.

The US is a busted flush, tell Joe to FO




indeed, always have, always will but somehow manage to convince people that they are the party of compromise and unity... yeah first things first.. lets send Trump to jail and make a black list of Trump supporters...

Re: OT: 'THE DONALD' EDGES TOWARDS THE DOOR

Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:57 am

ealing_ayatollah wrote:
BroBlue wrote: He sold billions of dollars of top level military equipment to Arab countries so they could suppress their own populations, he also looked the other way when they clearly murdered civillians in embassies on foreign soil.


Like most US Presidents then. Oh except for Obama who just sent Iran billions of dollars in cash because they made a 'promise'

BroBlue wrote:This is how he encourages Arab nations to drop hostilities with Israel


Seeing as the tried and tested approach of bomb the shit out them and then sending in troops for years of war that never ends which started under Bush then was upheld by Clinton, Bush Jr and Obama hasn't worked - I'll take Trump's approach as a step in a better direction.

BroBlue wrote:(and for the most part all of them now understand that country isn't going anywhere and regret their initial decisions).


Maybe it is the way I'm reading this but it sounds like you're anticipating the collapsing of peace agreements with relish. Like I say may be reading that wrong but the way, I hope I am to be honest.


BroBlue wrote: for de-escalating a situation with Iran, f*cking hell man he caused the situation by assasinating a top level Iranian general who was visiting Iraq, simply to give himself the appearance of a strongman in an election year (a typical strategy and usually an effective one).


Might want to check the timeline here Sulameini was killed after Iran had twice attacked US (firstly an airbase and secondly the embassy). Iran then launched a major attack that was ultimately a lame duck response but with a missile attack sizeable enough that most US leaders would of reined down the old shock and awe. Trump saw Iran for what it was, a busted flush, and let it run its course without the need for further militaristic grandstanding.

BroBlue wrote:All except for Donald and the Jesusland areas of the USA, but they don't really matter anymore.


Why the need to drop unnecessary religious bigotry in at the end, again maybe I'm reading it wrong but there is a sneering tone to the way you phrase it, hinting at the fact that Christians are inferior to the enlightened folks like you.

It's interesting how commonplace little slight digs at Christians have become - you probably didn't even realise you were doing it. But I bet you ten a penny you wouldn't be so glib about a certain other religion if peace.

All bang on but lalala Orange Man new Hitler bad.

Re: OT: 'THE DONALD' EDGES TOWARDS THE DOOR

Sun Nov 08, 2020 10:34 am

Jock wrote:
ealing_ayatollah wrote:
BroBlue wrote: He sold billions of dollars of top level military equipment to Arab countries so they could suppress their own populations, he also looked the other way when they clearly murdered civillians in embassies on foreign soil.


Like most US Presidents then. Oh except for Obama who just sent Iran billions of dollars in cash because they made a 'promise'

BroBlue wrote:This is how he encourages Arab nations to drop hostilities with Israel


Seeing as the tried and tested approach of bomb the shit out them and then sending in troops for years of war that never ends which started under Bush then was upheld by Clinton, Bush Jr and Obama hasn't worked - I'll take Trump's approach as a step in a better direction.

BroBlue wrote:(and for the most part all of them now understand that country isn't going anywhere and regret their initial decisions).


Maybe it is the way I'm reading this but it sounds like you're anticipating the collapsing of peace agreements with relish. Like I say may be reading that wrong but the way, I hope I am to be honest.


BroBlue wrote: for de-escalating a situation with Iran, f*cking hell man he caused the situation by assasinating a top level Iranian general who was visiting Iraq, simply to give himself the appearance of a strongman in an election year (a typical strategy and usually an effective one).


Might want to check the timeline here Sulameini was killed after Iran had twice attacked US (firstly an airbase and secondly the embassy). Iran then launched a major attack that was ultimately a lame duck response but with a missile attack sizeable enough that most US leaders would of reined down the old shock and awe. Trump saw Iran for what it was, a busted flush, and let it run its course without the need for further militaristic grandstanding.

BroBlue wrote:All except for Donald and the Jesusland areas of the USA, but they don't really matter anymore.


Why the need to drop unnecessary religious bigotry in at the end, again maybe I'm reading it wrong but there is a sneering tone to the way you phrase it, hinting at the fact that Christians are inferior to the enlightened folks like you.

It's interesting how commonplace little slight digs at Christians have become - you probably didn't even realise you were doing it. But I bet you ten a penny you wouldn't be so glib about a certain other religion if peace.

All bang on but lalala Orange Man new Hitler bad.


And by dropping in religious bigotry, he plays his hand.

Re: OT: 'THE DONALD' EDGES TOWARDS THE DOOR

Sun Nov 08, 2020 10:44 am

BroBlue wrote:
ealing_ayatollah wrote:
Jimmy Scoular wrote: His legacy is one of trawling up all the old hatreds
divisiveness

Like brokering peace between Israel and Bahrain, UAE and Sudan, and also between Kosovo and Serbia, deescalating a situation in Iran that almost certainly would have led to war under Obama, Clinton or Bush and bringing his troops home from the endless wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

What a war mongering b*stard, thank god he's gone.


He sold billions of dollars of top level military equipment to Arab countries so they could suppress their own populations, he also looked the other way when they clearly murdered civillians in embassies on foreign soil. This is how he encourages Arab nations to drop hostilities with Israel (and for the most part all of them now understand that country isn't going anywhere and regret their initial decisions).

As for de-escalating a situation with Iran, f*cking hell man he caused the situation by assasinating a top level Iranian general who was visiting Iraq, simply to give himself the appearance of a strongman in an election year (a typical strategy and usually an effective one).

The whole world will sleep easier tonight that is for damn sure. All except for Donald and the Jesusland areas of the USA, but they don't really matter anymore.



stopped reading after the first line... do you seriously think the arab armies have been fighting with swords shields and bows and arrows pre trump...?

Re: OT: 'THE DONALD' EDGES TOWARDS THE DOOR

Sun Nov 08, 2020 12:38 pm

ealing_ayatollah wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:
ealing_ayatollah wrote:
Jimmy Scoular wrote: His legacy is one of trawling up all the old hatreds
divisiveness

Like brokering peace between Israel and Bahrain, UAE and Sudan, and also between Kosovo and Serbia, deescalating a situation in Iran that almost certainly would have led to war under Obama, Clinton or Bush and bringing his troops home from the endless wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

What a war mongering b*stard, thank god he's gone.

How on earth did trump manage to get Israel and the UAE to make peace? He must be a miracle worker to get middle eastern countries who weren't at war to sign a peace deal.

Hopefully he can push through an Iceland and Nigeria peace deal before he leaves.


He's leaving that one to Kerry Katona


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Brilliant! :clap:

Re: OT: 'THE DONALD' EDGES TOWARDS THE DOOR

Sun Nov 08, 2020 1:34 pm

Now that Trumbo has gone ...er no his legal team have come up with a real game changer the dirty old creep Juliani forthrightly castigates the corrupt conspiracy against his boss. Outside the Four Seasons Total Landscaping store in Philly the Trumbo brigade outline their strategy conveniently situated next to a Sex Toy Shop and a crematorium. You really cannot make this up. How long will Mrs Trump stick around ?? He is probably also a flight risk now with both State and Federal authorities looming - he has two months to leg it before he can be arraigned as a private citizen.

Re: OT: 'THE DONALD' EDGES TOWARDS THE DOOR

Sun Nov 08, 2020 2:13 pm

‘Conveniently’ Jim.. perhaps one word too many.

Re: OT: 'THE DONALD' EDGES TOWARDS THE DOOR

Sun Nov 08, 2020 2:28 pm

Jimmy Scoular wrote:Now that Trumbo has gone ...er no his legal team have come up with a real game changer the dirty old creep Juliani forthrightly castigates the corrupt conspiracy against his boss. Outside the Four Seasons Total Landscaping store in Philly the Trumbo brigade outline their strategy conveniently situated next to a Sex Toy Shop and a crematorium. You really cannot make this up. How long will Mrs Trump stick around ?? He is probably also a flight risk now with both State and Federal authorities looming - he has two months to leg it before he can be arraigned as a private citizen.




you actually believe this nonsense ?

Re: OT: 'THE DONALD' EDGES TOWARDS THE DOOR

Sun Nov 08, 2020 3:12 pm

skidemin wrote:
Jimmy Scoular wrote:Now that Trumbo has gone ...er no his legal team have come up with a real game changer the dirty old creep Juliani forthrightly castigates the corrupt conspiracy against his boss. Outside the Four Seasons Total Landscaping store in Philly the Trumbo brigade outline their strategy conveniently situated next to a Sex Toy Shop and a crematorium. You really cannot make this up. How long will Mrs Trump stick around ?? He is probably also a flight risk now with both State and Federal authorities looming - he has two months to leg it before he can be arraigned as a private citizen.




you actually believe this nonsense ?

I think he does... :roll:

However, with regard to Mrs Trump III, I believe she won't stay around too long once they leave the White House; and it is well known that (a) she didn't want to move in there, and (b) no one was more surprised (and somewhat disappointed) than her that he actually got the top job 'POTUS'

The rest of his post is confusing (at best) as Trump has nowhere to 'run' to in reality, such is his low standing in the world of business and politics and I'm sure he has enough on certain people to keep them at bay regarding any serious litigation (tax not included)

New words brought to the fore today include 'Trumbo' (really? :oops: ) and 'Juliani' (clearly a Guiliani imposter)

Re: OT: 'THE DONALD' EDGES TOWARDS THE DOOR

Sun Nov 08, 2020 3:19 pm

Stayed up last night to listen to Joe Biden's speech and some good stuff in there, although much was repeated from previous speeches. He's in a tight corner and simply has to deliver now or feel the backlash; but, for me, the early indicators seem good and he might just temper the mass of ill-feeling caused by his predecessor

Kamal Harris was an insured choice as hid Vice-President for all the reasons we've discuss before and she came across well

In the background. it seems 'The Donald' may be softening his approach after a game of golf and his aides are feeling the seeds of an acceptance of the situation

It's no longer about him; it's about the USA and he should think of the calming influence he could be right now

Re: OT: 'THE DONALD' EDGES TOWARDS THE DOOR

Sun Nov 08, 2020 4:10 pm

Sven wrote:
skidemin wrote:
Jimmy Scoular wrote:Now that Trumbo has gone ...er no his legal team have come up with a real game changer the dirty old creep Juliani forthrightly castigates the corrupt conspiracy against his boss. Outside the Four Seasons Total Landscaping store in Philly the Trumbo brigade outline their strategy conveniently situated next to a Sex Toy Shop and a crematorium. You really cannot make this up. How long will Mrs Trump stick around ?? He is probably also a flight risk now with both State and Federal authorities looming - he has two months to leg it before he can be arraigned as a private citizen.




you actually believe this nonsense ?

I think he does... :roll:

However, with regard to Mrs Trump III, I believe she won't stay around too long once they leave the White House; and it is well known that (a) she didn't want to move in there, and (b) no one was more surprised (and somewhat disappointed) than her that he actually got the top job 'POTUS'

The rest of his post is confusing (at best) as Trump has nowhere to 'run' to in reality, such is his low standing in the world of business and politics and I'm sure he has enough on certain people to keep them at bay regarding any serious litigation (tax not included)

New words brought to the fore today include 'Trumbo' (really? :oops: ) and 'Juliani' (clearly a Guiliani imposter)



yes i agree..
and every thing thats coming out from Biden himself is about unity... so where does locking up the man who has just got the most ever Republican votes come into that equation..as for Trumbo.. waw... all the choices from 4 years worth of him being called all sorts...and trumbo was the best...

Re: OT: 'THE DONALD' EDGES TOWARDS THE DOOR

Sun Nov 08, 2020 4:59 pm

Because he has broke several laws one of which in all probability is tax evasion. There was a a solid reasoning for Trumbo to run for the job from day one, keeps him out of chokey .The first thing Gerald Ford done when assuming the mantle of the Presidency was to pardon Richard Nixon. Problem here for Trump Biden is a democrat and has been subjected to the abuse of his son Hunter. So Trumbo can , run, face the music, file for bankruptcy, run naked down the street waving the Stars and Stripes or should that be Stars and Bars in this case, screaming follow me to his loyal redneck morons. One thing is for sure is that this malignant piece of human excrement is out!


:wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave:

Re: OT: 'THE DONALD' EDGES TOWARDS THE DOOR

Sun Nov 08, 2020 8:58 pm

Jimmy Scoular wrote:Problem here for Trump Biden is a democrat and has been subjected to the abuse of his son Hunter.

Yep poor old Hunter who did nothing wrong.

I mean how many Ukrainian energy companies don't want to hire a recovering crack addict, who was recently discharged from the US Navy for drug abuse, who doesn't speak Ukrainian and has no expertise in the energy sector to their executive board?

People like Hunter Biden are obviously going to be in high demand for such prestigious roles.

He 100% got the role and the $50K a month salary on merit and merit alone.

Deffo nothing to see here and how dare that mean orange man question such a clearly justified appointment.

Thank god that orange wannabe mobster is on his way out so we won't have any more corruption in the white house - just good old Joe 30330 from Scranton to clean things up.

He comes from a long line of Welsh coal miners as well you know so there's another mark in the plus column.

Re: OT: 'THE DONALD' EDGES TOWARDS THE DOOR

Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:20 pm

I dont understand how a country like USA the strongest power on earth can only come up with Biden and Trump to run for the WhiteHouse.
What the hell is going on.One is off his head and one is far too old and seems as if he is slowing up mentally.
I predict the knives will be out for Biden once the honeymoon is over and all sorts of stuff will be thrown at him. The media love a good failureI. i just hope it does not effect us but thats wishful thinking

Re: OT: 'THE DONALD' EDGES TOWARDS THE DOOR

Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:55 pm

ealing_ayatollah wrote:
Jimmy Scoular wrote:Problem here for Trump Biden is a democrat and has been subjected to the abuse of his son Hunter.

Yep poor old Hunter who did nothing wrong.

I mean how many Ukrainian energy companies don't want to hire a recovering crack addict, who was recently discharged from the US Navy for drug abuse, who doesn't speak Ukrainian and has no expertise in the energy sector to their executive board?

People like Hunter Biden are obviously going to be in high demand for such prestigious roles.

He 100% got the role and the $50K a month salary on merit and merit alone.

Deffo nothing to see here and how dare that mean orange man question such a clearly justified appointment.

Thank god that orange wannabe mobster is on his way out so we won't have any more corruption in the white house - just good old Joe 30330 from Scranton to clean things up.

He comes from a long line of Welsh coal miners as well you know so there's another mark in the plus column.


Sounds like Johnson is using the same hiring techniques because obviously all his mates that cost the tax payer billions are qualified to run the Track and Trace, PPE etc etc...

Re: OT: 'THE DONALD' EDGES TOWARDS THE DOOR

Sun Nov 08, 2020 10:01 pm

Jimmy Scoular wrote:Because he has broke several laws one of which in all probability is tax evasion. There was a a solid reasoning for Trumbo to run for the job from day one, keeps him out of chokey .The first thing Gerald Ford done when assuming the mantle of the Presidency was to pardon Richard Nixon. Problem here for Trump Biden is a democrat and has been subjected to the abuse of his son Hunter. So Trumbo can , run, face the music, file for bankruptcy, run naked down the street waving the Stars and Stripes or should that be Stars and Bars in this case, screaming follow me to his loyal redneck morons. One thing is for sure is that this malignant piece of human excrement is out!


:wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave:



i know the extreme left of the party , BLM . the bottom end press and left wing protest groups are probably pushing this 24/7 in whatever communist media outlets youve been brainwashed by...but its not happening anymore than jailing the Clintons happened....and truth be told Biden has his work cut out keeping on top of the aforementioned

Re: OT: 'THE DONALD' EDGES TOWARDS THE DOOR

Sun Nov 08, 2020 10:22 pm

terryharkin wrote:I dont understand how a country like USA the strongest power on earth can only come up with Biden and Trump to run for the WhiteHouse.
What the hell is going on.One is off his head and one is far too old and seems as if he is slowing up mentally.
I predict the knives will be out for Biden once the honeymoon is over and all sorts of stuff will be thrown at him. The media love a good failureI. i just hope it does not effect us but thats wishful thinking

Kamala Harris is the plan! It’s intended for her to take over.....eventually.

Re: OT: 'THE DONALD' EDGES TOWARDS THE DOOR

Sun Nov 08, 2020 10:36 pm

Bill boy wrote:
terryharkin wrote:I dont understand how a country like USA the strongest power on earth can only come up with Biden and Trump to run for the WhiteHouse.
What the hell is going on.One is off his head and one is far too old and seems as if he is slowing up mentally.
I predict the knives will be out for Biden once the honeymoon is over and all sorts of stuff will be thrown at him. The media love a good failureI. i just hope it does not effect us but thats wishful thinking

Kamala Harris is the plan! It’s intended for her to take over.....eventually.



very much looks that way...

Re: OT: 'THE DONALD' EDGES TOWARDS THE DOOR

Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:08 am

Bluebird For Life wrote:
ealing_ayatollah wrote:
Jimmy Scoular wrote:Problem here for Trump Biden is a democrat and has been subjected to the abuse of his son Hunter.

Yep poor old Hunter who did nothing wrong.

I mean how many Ukrainian energy companies don't want to hire a recovering crack addict, who was recently discharged from the US Navy for drug abuse, who doesn't speak Ukrainian and has no expertise in the energy sector to their executive board?

People like Hunter Biden are obviously going to be in high demand for such prestigious roles.

He 100% got the role and the $50K a month salary on merit and merit alone.

Deffo nothing to see here and how dare that mean orange man question such a clearly justified appointment.

Thank god that orange wannabe mobster is on his way out so we won't have any more corruption in the white house - just good old Joe 30330 from Scranton to clean things up.

He comes from a long line of Welsh coal miners as well you know so there's another mark in the plus column.


Sounds like Johnson is using the same hiring techniques because obviously all his mates that cost the tax payer billions are qualified to run the Track and Trace, PPE etc etc...

Aye, same meat different gravy apparently