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Re: " GENERAL ELECTION 2019 TOPIC "

Tue Dec 10, 2019 3:05 pm

epping blue wrote:I thought Sir Alan Sugars comments were interesting.
"Jeremy Corbyn has turned Labour into a negative anti business party that is clueless on how the economy works. His spending splurge is complete madness. "
That, from a life long Labour supporter , a labour peer, an arch remainer and although a leading Jew, it contained no reference to any anti Semitism concerns. So concerned of Labour's threat to the economy, he's urging voters to vote for Boris Johnson. As usual its not reported by the BBC, it doesn't fit the narrative.
The country wakes up on Friday morning with Corbyn as PM then so be it. The Youth will get the European country they want and in short time they'll get the youth unemployment to match.

You've lost all credibility when your argument is to blame young people if Labour win.

Re: More Lies Politics

Tue Dec 10, 2019 3:11 pm

Sneggyblubird wrote:The Mail on Sunday (MoS) falsely claimed that Labour was planning to scrap a tax exemption on homeowners, in a prominent story that has since been used by the Conservatives as part of their election campaign.

The press regulator Ipso ruled that the newspaper’s reporting was inaccurate and “could cause significant concern to readers that, under a Labour government, they could be liable to pay a tax they are exempt from under current legislation”.

The MoS headline was then used in Conservative campaign literature and shared by Tory politicians on social media.

The story said Labour wanted “to scrap the capital gains tax exemption on main homes”, citing a report called Land for the Many, written for Labour by a group of academics and campaigners.

Contrary to the newspaper’s claims, the third-party report explicitly rejected proposals to scrap the capital gains tax exemption for main homes, and instead recommended an annual levy on any increase in value of a property.

The erroneous article was published in June, and the press regulator ruled on the inaccuracy in November. The MoS must now publish Ipso’s ruling on page 2 of its print edition and on the top half of its website for 24 hours. But because the paper sought a review of the process by which the decision was made, publication of the correction has been delayed until after the election.

The thing that puzzles me is how they could tell this particular piece of BS from all the rest of their stories. :lol: Still be taken as gospel on here though. :laughing6:




There's virtually nothing from the land for the many report that's been brought forward to the current Labour manifesto. It would be toxic in a lot of their metropolitan heartlands. Can we take it that what's not been brought forward into the manifesto wont be legislated within the next government. No change to the Property tax system. No landlord / tenant sales discount. No real move to the Marxist principals that the state owns all the land. Is there a guarantee that all the proposals in the report that are not within their manifesto wont be brought forward. Of course there isn't.

Re: More Lies Politics

Tue Dec 10, 2019 4:01 pm

epping blue wrote:
Sneggyblubird wrote:The Mail on Sunday (MoS) falsely claimed that Labour was planning to scrap a tax exemption on homeowners, in a prominent story that has since been used by the Conservatives as part of their election campaign.

The press regulator Ipso ruled that the newspaper’s reporting was inaccurate and “could cause significant concern to readers that, under a Labour government, they could be liable to pay a tax they are exempt from under current legislation”.

The MoS headline was then used in Conservative campaign literature and shared by Tory politicians on social media.

The story said Labour wanted “to scrap the capital gains tax exemption on main homes”, citing a report called Land for the Many, written for Labour by a group of academics and campaigners.

Contrary to the newspaper’s claims, the third-party report explicitly rejected proposals to scrap the capital gains tax exemption for main homes, and instead recommended an annual levy on any increase in value of a property.

The erroneous article was published in June, and the press regulator ruled on the inaccuracy in November. The MoS must now publish Ipso’s ruling on page 2 of its print edition and on the top half of its website for 24 hours. But because the paper sought a review of the process by which the decision was made, publication of the correction has been delayed until after the election.

The thing that puzzles me is how they could tell this particular piece of BS from all the rest of their stories. :lol: Still be taken as gospel on here though. :laughing6:




There's virtually nothing from the land for the many report that's been brought forward to the current Labour manifesto. It would be toxic in a lot of their metropolitan heartlands. Can we take it that what's not been brought forward into the manifesto wont be legislated within the next government. No change to the Property tax system. No landlord / tenant sales discount. No real move to the Marxist principals that the state owns all the land. Is there a guarantee that all the proposals in the report that are not within their manifesto wont be brought forward. Of course there isn't.


Aye.a bit like Boris saying the NHS is not on the agenda with the yanks. :lol:

Re: " GENERAL ELECTION 2019 TOPIC "

Tue Dec 10, 2019 4:03 pm

Bluebird1990 wrote:
epping blue wrote:I thought Sir Alan Sugars comments were interesting.
"Jeremy Corbyn has turned Labour into a negative anti business party that is clueless on how the economy works. His spending splurge is complete madness. "
That, from a life long Labour supporter , a labour peer, an arch remainer and although a leading Jew, it contained no reference to any anti Semitism concerns. So concerned of Labour's threat to the economy, he's urging voters to vote for Boris Johnson. As usual its not reported by the BBC, it doesn't fit the narrative.
The country wakes up on Friday morning with Corbyn as PM then so be it. The Youth will get the European country they want and in short time they'll get the youth unemployment to match.

You've lost all credibility when your argument is to blame young people if Labour win.


It’s perfectly valid to blame the gullible youth if they blindly vote for a party who have malice aforethought for the economic base of the country, when they have no inkling of how devastating it was in the 1970’s under the control of the Unions.

The dangers of tactical voting also mustn’t be underestimated. In a lot of seats a vote for the Lib Dem’s or Brexit or any independent candidate will be as good as a vote for Corbyn.

Re: " GENERAL ELECTION 2019 TOPIC "

Tue Dec 10, 2019 4:22 pm

Danny Says wrote:
Bluebird1990 wrote:
epping blue wrote:I thought Sir Alan Sugars comments were interesting.
"Jeremy Corbyn has turned Labour into a negative anti business party that is clueless on how the economy works. His spending splurge is complete madness. "
That, from a life long Labour supporter , a labour peer, an arch remainer and although a leading Jew, it contained no reference to any anti Semitism concerns. So concerned of Labour's threat to the economy, he's urging voters to vote for Boris Johnson. As usual its not reported by the BBC, it doesn't fit the narrative.
The country wakes up on Friday morning with Corbyn as PM then so be it. The Youth will get the European country they want and in short time they'll get the youth unemployment to match.

You've lost all credibility when your argument is to blame young people if Labour win.


It’s perfectly valid to blame the gullible youth if they blindly vote for a party who have malice aforethought for the economic base of the country, when they have no inkling of how devastating it was in the 1970’s under the control of the Unions.

The dangers of tactical voting also mustn’t be underestimated. In a lot of seats a vote for the Lib Dem’s or Brexit or any independent candidate will be as good as a vote for Corbyn.

Ok then, boomers are responsible for the global 2008 financial crisis and all the mess that came afterwards.
See i can generalise an entire generation too.
like i said all your credibility has gone out the window so whatever you say now can't be taken seriously.

Re: " GENERAL ELECTION 2019 TOPIC "

Tue Dec 10, 2019 4:40 pm

Forever Blue wrote::evil:

Only came back to check something about tomorrow, can see why I left after reading through this topic.
A) The parent was a Tory until recently.
B) The health minister has apologised (who is a Tory)
C) the only other evidence to the contrary is a bunch of tweets by 'people' all saying exactly the same thing (and I mean word for word the same).

Not relevant to that post but throughout the thread people have been saying 'I'm voting conservative because of democracy...' Maybe you should look back a few months to when they unlawfully killed democracy outright and are now wanting to change the courts so the pm doesn't have to obey the laws... Aka a move towards dictatorship (and I'm not saying that they'll become dictators but it's a leap towards it).

Oh and TorySays, can you stop with pRoJeCt FeAr.

Re: " GENERAL ELECTION 2019 TOPIC "

Tue Dec 10, 2019 4:50 pm

Bluebird1990 wrote:
Danny Says wrote:
Bluebird1990 wrote:
epping blue wrote:I thought Sir Alan Sugars comments were interesting.
"Jeremy Corbyn has turned Labour into a negative anti business party that is clueless on how the economy works. His spending splurge is complete madness. "
That, from a life long Labour supporter , a labour peer, an arch remainer and although a leading Jew, it contained no reference to any anti Semitism concerns. So concerned of Labour's threat to the economy, he's urging voters to vote for Boris Johnson. As usual its not reported by the BBC, it doesn't fit the narrative.
The country wakes up on Friday morning with Corbyn as PM then so be it. The Youth will get the European country they want and in short time they'll get the youth unemployment to match.

You've lost all credibility when your argument is to blame young people if Labour win.


It’s perfectly valid to blame the gullible youth if they blindly vote for a party who have malice aforethought for the economic base of the country, when they have no inkling of how devastating it was in the 1970’s under the control of the Unions.

The dangers of tactical voting also mustn’t be underestimated. In a lot of seats a vote for the Lib Dem’s or Brexit or any independent candidate will be as good as a vote for Corbyn.

Ok then, boomers are responsible for the global 2008 financial crisis and all the mess that came afterwards.
See i can generalise an entire generation too.
like i said all your credibility has gone out the window so whatever you say now can't be taken seriously.



I'm not blaming the youth, they've been brain washed into thinking that all for for free and comes with no consequences. It wont matter much to me whether we have a labour government or not, I wont be picking up the bill. That's for my kids and your kids, my employees and their kids. Employment prospects for those coming out of school / university will get very bad very quickly. If Alan Sugar is deserting Labour because of the catastrophic financial implications doesn't that deserve consideration. The BBC clearly think not.

Re: " GENERAL ELECTION 2019 TOPIC "

Tue Dec 10, 2019 4:51 pm

CCFCJosh75 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote::evil:

Only came back to check something about tomorrow, can see why I left after reading through this topic.
A) The parent was a Tory until recently.
B) The health minister has apologised (who is a Tory)
C) the only other evidence to the contrary is a bunch of tweets by 'people' all saying exactly the same thing (and I mean word for word the same).

Not relevant to that post but throughout the thread people have been saying 'I'm voting conservative because of democracy...' Maybe you should look back a few months to when they unlawfully killed democracy outright and are now wanting to change the courts so the pm doesn't have to obey the laws... Aka a move towards dictatorship (and I'm not saying that they'll become dictators but it's a leap towards it).

Oh and TorySays, can you stop with pRoJeCt FeAr.



I did not vote but the country voted out.. not a few judges the country.. laws get changed all the time mate.
as for the daily mirror..just like th tv has xmas adds in December the Mirror has a picture of this type around election time if its been a Tory government in power.....its tradition ..of course young doctors work long hours under labour, nurses are stretched under labour . and a mother deciding to put a pile of coats on the floor because she has decided her son is a bigger priority than others can also happen under labour..

Re: " GENERAL ELECTION 2019 TOPIC "

Tue Dec 10, 2019 4:56 pm

Jock wrote:But believe me, if we end up with the NHS in such a state that we need private health insurance then you'd better hope that the economy (which is currently growing more slowly than the majority of competitor countries) goes through the roof to pay your double figure pay rises for the next 10 years to even get near to you being able to afford the Private Health insurance your going to need without the NHS.


Are these competitor countries in the EU? Since the crash our economy has grown by 19% the Eurozone by 13%. Unemployment is higher across the bulk of Europe with the Frogs at two and a half times our rate and the Greeks five times as high. DFI continues to outpace the Eurozone, imagine how well we’ll do once the crippling uncertainty has gone and we leave the disastrous EU.[/quote]
Our level of economic growth is at zero almost.

Any Tory investment is dependant on their over ambitious predictions of growth rates. Therefore, they either have to borrow or not invest.

At least Labour are admitting they will borrow to invest in our services.

If you think non investment is OK and happy to carry on as we are, vote Tory. If you think we’ve had enough of austerity and our services need investment vote Labour.

Pretty simple.

Re: More Lies Politics

Tue Dec 10, 2019 5:04 pm

Sneggyblubird wrote:
epping blue wrote:
Sneggyblubird wrote:The Mail on Sunday (MoS) falsely claimed that Labour was planning to scrap a tax exemption on homeowners, in a prominent story that has since been used by the Conservatives as part of their election campaign.

The press regulator Ipso ruled that the newspaper’s reporting was inaccurate and “could cause significant concern to readers that, under a Labour government, they could be liable to pay a tax they are exempt from under current legislation”.

The MoS headline was then used in Conservative campaign literature and shared by Tory politicians on social media.

The story said Labour wanted “to scrap the capital gains tax exemption on main homes”, citing a report called Land for the Many, written for Labour by a group of academics and campaigners.

Contrary to the newspaper’s claims, the third-party report explicitly rejected proposals to scrap the capital gains tax exemption for main homes, and instead recommended an annual levy on any increase in value of a property.

The erroneous article was published in June, and the press regulator ruled on the inaccuracy in November. The MoS must now publish Ipso’s ruling on page 2 of its print edition and on the top half of its website for 24 hours. But because the paper sought a review of the process by which the decision was made, publication of the correction has been delayed until after the election.

The thing that puzzles me is how they could tell this particular piece of BS from all the rest of their stories. :lol: Still be taken as gospel on here though. :laughing6:




There's virtually nothing from the land for the many report that's been brought forward to the current Labour manifesto. It would be toxic in a lot of their metropolitan heartlands. Can we take it that what's not been brought forward into the manifesto wont be legislated within the next government. No change to the Property tax system. No landlord / tenant sales discount. No real move to the Marxist principals that the state owns all the land. Is there a guarantee that all the proposals in the report that are not within their manifesto wont be brought forward. Of course there isn't.


Aye.a bit like Boris saying the NHS is not on the agenda with the yanks. :lol:



selling the NHS...I would expect this absolute nonsense from josh/dave. piledriver and the extremely gullible... but come on.. try reading the document.
the fact that it was a 1 day story which happened to conveniently deflect a poor interview should spell it out in super size ..

Re: " GENERAL ELECTION 2019 TOPIC "

Tue Dec 10, 2019 5:07 pm

piledriver64 wrote:
Jock wrote:But believe me, if we end up with the NHS in such a state that we need private health insurance then you'd better hope that the economy (which is currently growing more slowly than the majority of competitor countries) goes through the roof to pay your double figure pay rises for the next 10 years to even get near to you being able to afford the Private Health insurance your going to need without the NHS.


Are these competitor countries in the EU? Since the crash our economy has grown by 19% the Eurozone by 13%. Unemployment is higher across the bulk of Europe with the Frogs at two and a half times our rate and the Greeks five times as high. DFI continues to outpace the Eurozone, imagine how well we’ll do once the crippling uncertainty has gone and we leave the disastrous EU.

Our level of economic growth is at zero almost.

Any Tory investment is dependant on their over ambitious predictions of growth rates. Therefore, they either have to borrow or not invest.

At least Labour are admitting they will borrow to invest in our services.

If you think non investment is OK and happy to carry on as we are, vote Tory. If you think we’ve had enough of austerity and our services need investment vote Labour.

Pretty simple.[/quote]

‘Simple’ in the sense of crass and absurd.

The reason growth is slow is due to the anti democratic conduct of MPs who refused to abide by the democrats will of the nation. This has stunted the economy and will continue until Brexit is delivered. That will provide the ground for a fertile and strong economy which is the only base for a prosperous country.

The amount Labour will have to borrow is so enormously vast it’s not realistic but nothing McDonnell sets out in his comic book of a manifesto is not realistic. Utopia is not a real place whatever the Marxist thinks.

On the other hand the Tory investment plans are based on responsible capitalism and a proper understanding of macro economics.

Re: " GENERAL ELECTION 2019 TOPIC "

Tue Dec 10, 2019 5:08 pm

‘Simple’ in the sense of crass and absurd.

The reason growth is slow is due to the anti democratic conduct of MPs who refused to abide by the democrats will of the nation. This has stunted the economy and will continue until Brexit is delivered. That will provide the ground for a fertile and strong economy which is the only base for a prosperous country.

The amount Labour will have to borrow is so enormously vast it’s not realistic but nothing McDonnell sets out in his comic book of a manifesto is not realistic. Utopia is not a real place whatever the Marxist thinks.

On the other hand the Tory investment plans are based on responsible capitalism and a proper understanding of macro economics.

Re: " GENERAL ELECTION 2019 TOPIC "

Tue Dec 10, 2019 5:22 pm

There are 2 options for Government on Friday:

1) The now centre left party of Boris "Conservatives" and a fake Brexit. Trundling along into Globalist form of marxism by the back door.

or ...

2)hard left marxism paving way for communism, and a moral free for all. Labour Who claim to champion fairness. unless you're white, Christian, Catholic or an unborn foetus. Haven't they now said a woman can abort a pregnancy at 8 months?

Re: " GENERAL ELECTION 2019 TOPIC "

Tue Dec 10, 2019 5:52 pm

ElyBoy1984 wrote:There are 2 options for Government on Friday:

1) The now centre left party of Boris "Conservatives" and a fake Brexit. Trundling along into Globalist form of marxism by the back door.

or ...

2)hard left marxism paving way for communism, and a moral free for all. Labour Who claim to champion fairness. unless you're white, Christian, Catholic or an unborn foetus. Haven't they now said a woman can abort a pregnancy at 8 months?


Correction. In principle, Labour now say a baby can be aborted right up until birth......
This is where "moral relativism" and the sexual revolution leads. Since the 60s We have slowly been stripped of any strong identity, we've seen an unfair but successful attack on Chistianity, colour, more recently on the family unit, gender and nationhood. Once we have no fixed identity or moral base we become slaves to those offering an alternative. With the advances in neuro science and the power of mass media, suddenly you can convince a human of anything. Anti racist soft-lad Corbyn becomes a raging anti-semite a British patriot is now a nazi. Boris a hard right conservative. We have now normalised sodomy, and started state sponsored gender reassigment for kids, along with school classes. A lot of people now shrug their shoulders about abortion at 8 months 3 weeks...i could go on and on. And i'll probably get shot down in flames for this. But is it time to campaign for a resetting of politics completely where anybody can openly say anything as seen from their lived experience without being shut down. Then discuss religion and the role it played in the rise of Western civilisation. All from a rational perspective.

Re: " GENERAL ELECTION 2019 TOPIC "

Tue Dec 10, 2019 5:58 pm

epping blue wrote:
Bluebird1990 wrote:
Danny Says wrote:
Bluebird1990 wrote:
epping blue wrote:I thought Sir Alan Sugars comments were interesting.
"Jeremy Corbyn has turned Labour into a negative anti business party that is clueless on how the economy works. His spending splurge is complete madness. "
That, from a life long Labour supporter , a labour peer, an arch remainer and although a leading Jew, it contained no reference to any anti Semitism concerns. So concerned of Labour's threat to the economy, he's urging voters to vote for Boris Johnson. As usual its not reported by the BBC, it doesn't fit the narrative.
The country wakes up on Friday morning with Corbyn as PM then so be it. The Youth will get the European country they want and in short time they'll get the youth unemployment to match.

You've lost all credibility when your argument is to blame young people if Labour win.


It’s perfectly valid to blame the gullible youth if they blindly vote for a party who have malice aforethought for the economic base of the country, when they have no inkling of how devastating it was in the 1970’s under the control of the Unions.

The dangers of tactical voting also mustn’t be underestimated. In a lot of seats a vote for the Lib Dem’s or Brexit or any independent candidate will be as good as a vote for Corbyn.

Ok then, boomers are responsible for the global 2008 financial crisis and all the mess that came afterwards.
See i can generalise an entire generation too.
like i said all your credibility has gone out the window so whatever you say now can't be taken seriously.



I'm not blaming the youth, they've been brain washed into thinking that all for for free and comes with no consequences. It wont matter much to me whether we have a labour government or not, I wont be picking up the bill. That's for my kids and your kids, my employees and their kids. Employment prospects for those coming out of school / university will get very bad very quickly. If Alan Sugar is deserting Labour because of the catastrophic financial implications doesn't that deserve consideration. The BBC clearly think not.

Only a matter of time till this blatantly bias organisation loses public funding. Johnson was saying he wants to change evading the licence fee from a criminal to a civil offence.

Re: " GENERAL ELECTION 2019 TOPIC "

Tue Dec 10, 2019 6:07 pm

piledriver64 wrote:
Jock wrote:But believe me, if we end up with the NHS in such a state that we need private health insurance then you'd better hope that the economy (which is currently growing more slowly than the majority of competitor countries) goes through the roof to pay your double figure pay rises for the next 10 years to even get near to you being able to afford the Private Health insurance your going to need without the NHS.


Are these competitor countries in the EU? Since the crash our economy has grown by 19% the Eurozone by 13%. Unemployment is higher across the bulk of Europe with the Frogs at two and a half times our rate and the Greeks five times as high. DFI continues to outpace the Eurozone, imagine how well we’ll do once the crippling uncertainty has gone and we leave the disastrous EU.

Our level of economic growth is at zero almost.

Any Tory investment is dependant on their over ambitious predictions of growth rates. Therefore, they either have to borrow or not invest.

At least Labour are admitting they will borrow to invest in our services.

If you think non investment is OK and happy to carry on as we are, vote Tory. If you think we’ve had enough of austerity and our services need investment vote Labour.

Pretty simple.[/quote]
Our growth THIS QUARTER is flatlining, of course it is after 3 1/2 years of fekkin around and not leaving the EU. So after Labour borrow who pays it back? If you really think Marxist clowns like Corbyn and McDonnell are the answer it’s probably time to put the glue bag down.

Re: " GENERAL ELECTION 2019 TOPIC "

Tue Dec 10, 2019 6:10 pm

Jock wrote:
epping blue wrote:
Bluebird1990 wrote:
Danny Says wrote:
Bluebird1990 wrote:
epping blue wrote:I thought Sir Alan Sugars comments were interesting.
"Jeremy Corbyn has turned Labour into a negative anti business party that is clueless on how the economy works. His spending splurge is complete madness. "
That, from a life long Labour supporter , a labour peer, an arch remainer and although a leading Jew, it contained no reference to any anti Semitism concerns. So concerned of Labour's threat to the economy, he's urging voters to vote for Boris Johnson. As usual its not reported by the BBC, it doesn't fit the narrative.
The country wakes up on Friday morning with Corbyn as PM then so be it. The Youth will get the European country they want and in short time they'll get the youth unemployment to match.

You've lost all credibility when your argument is to blame young people if Labour win.


It’s perfectly valid to blame the gullible youth if they blindly vote for a party who have malice aforethought for the economic base of the country, when they have no inkling of how devastating it was in the 1970’s under the control of the Unions.

The dangers of tactical voting also mustn’t be underestimated. In a lot of seats a vote for the Lib Dem’s or Brexit or any independent candidate will be as good as a vote for Corbyn.

Ok then, boomers are responsible for the global 2008 financial crisis and all the mess that came afterwards.
See i can generalise an entire generation too.
like i said all your credibility has gone out the window so whatever you say now can't be taken seriously.



I'm not blaming the youth, they've been brain washed into thinking that all for for free and comes with no consequences. It wont matter much to me whether we have a labour government or not, I wont be picking up the bill. That's for my kids and your kids, my employees and their kids. Employment prospects for those coming out of school / university will get very bad very quickly. If Alan Sugar is deserting Labour because of the catastrophic financial implications doesn't that deserve consideration. The BBC clearly think not.

Only a matter of time till this blatantly bias organisation loses public funding. Johnson was saying he wants to change evading the licence fee from a criminal to a civil offence.


I wouldn't close the Beeb, the American system is privately funded by corporations with allegiance to the middle east and still brainwashing with left bias.

Cut the Beebs budget by 60% (arbitrary figure)
Change it's name.
Recruit new managenent strictly on political allegiances and ability.
Put "diversity of opinion" and ability infront of everything.

Sack Gary Lineker.

Re: More Lies Politics

Tue Dec 10, 2019 6:16 pm

dogfound wrote:
Sneggyblubird wrote:
epping blue wrote:
Sneggyblubird wrote:The Mail on Sunday (MoS) falsely claimed that Labour was planning to scrap a tax exemption on homeowners, in a prominent story that has since been used by the Conservatives as part of their election campaign.

The press regulator Ipso ruled that the newspaper’s reporting was inaccurate and “could cause significant concern to readers that, under a Labour government, they could be liable to pay a tax they are exempt from under current legislation”.

The MoS headline was then used in Conservative campaign literature and shared by Tory politicians on social media.

The story said Labour wanted “to scrap the capital gains tax exemption on main homes”, citing a report called Land for the Many, written for Labour by a group of academics and campaigners.

Contrary to the newspaper’s claims, the third-party report explicitly rejected proposals to scrap the capital gains tax exemption for main homes, and instead recommended an annual levy on any increase in value of a property.

The erroneous article was published in June, and the press regulator ruled on the inaccuracy in November. The MoS must now publish Ipso’s ruling on page 2 of its print edition and on the top half of its website for 24 hours. But because the paper sought a review of the process by which the decision was made, publication of the correction has been delayed until after the election.

The thing that puzzles me is how they could tell this particular piece of BS from all the rest of their stories. :lol: Still be taken as gospel on here though. :laughing6:




There's virtually nothing from the land for the many report that's been brought forward to the current Labour manifesto. It would be toxic in a lot of their metropolitan heartlands. Can we take it that what's not been brought forward into the manifesto wont be legislated within the next government. No change to the Property tax system. No landlord / tenant sales discount. No real move to the Marxist principals that the state owns all the land. Is there a guarantee that all the proposals in the report that are not within their manifesto wont be brought forward. Of course there isn't.


Aye.a bit like Boris saying the NHS is not on the agenda with the yanks. :lol:



selling the NHS...I would expect this absolute nonsense from josh/dave. piledriver and the extremely gullible... but come on.. try reading the document.
the fact that it was a 1 day story which happened to conveniently deflect a poor interview should spell it out in super size ..

The NHS is the sacred cow of British politics it would be electoral suicide to sell it, yet every election we get this shite from Labour.

Re: More Lies

Tue Dec 10, 2019 6:20 pm

Steve Zodiak wrote:
Sneggyblubird wrote:The Mail on Sunday (MoS) falsely claimed that Labour was planning to scrap a tax exemption on homeowners, in a prominent story that has since been used by the Conservatives as part of their election campaign.

The press regulator Ipso ruled that the newspaper’s reporting was inaccurate and “could cause significant concern to readers that, under a Labour government, they could be liable to pay a tax they are exempt from under current legislation”.

The MoS headline was then used in Conservative campaign literature and shared by Tory politicians on social media.

The story said Labour wanted “to scrap the capital gains tax exemption on main homes”, citing a report called Land for the Many, written for Labour by a group of academics and campaigners.

Contrary to the newspaper’s claims, the third-party report explicitly rejected proposals to scrap the capital gains tax exemption for main homes, and instead recommended an annual levy on any increase in value of a property.

The erroneous article was published in June, and the press regulator ruled on the inaccuracy in November. The MoS must now publish Ipso’s ruling on page 2 of its print edition and on the top half of its website for 24 hours. But because the paper sought a review of the process by which the decision was made, publication of the correction has been delayed until after the election.

The thing that puzzles me is how they could tell this particular piece of BS from all the rest of their stories. :lol: Still be taken as gospel on here though. :laughing6:


Anybody who believes anything in the press must be very gullible. I take The Mirror because I like it's sports pages. The news in there is about as accurate as The Beano, completely laughable. Only an idiot would take anything in the press seriously.


100%

Re: " GENERAL ELECTION 2019 TOPIC "

Tue Dec 10, 2019 6:25 pm

Camden_blue wrote:
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He's a decent follow on Twitter.

Re: More Lies Politics

Tue Dec 10, 2019 6:34 pm

Jock wrote:
dogfound wrote:
Sneggyblubird wrote:
epping blue wrote:
Sneggyblubird wrote:The Mail on Sunday (MoS) falsely claimed that Labour was planning to scrap a tax exemption on homeowners, in a prominent story that has since been used by the Conservatives as part of their election campaign.

The press regulator Ipso ruled that the newspaper’s reporting was inaccurate and “could cause significant concern to readers that, under a Labour government, they could be liable to pay a tax they are exempt from under current legislation”.

The MoS headline was then used in Conservative campaign literature and shared by Tory politicians on social media.

The story said Labour wanted “to scrap the capital gains tax exemption on main homes”, citing a report called Land for the Many, written for Labour by a group of academics and campaigners.

Contrary to the newspaper’s claims, the third-party report explicitly rejected proposals to scrap the capital gains tax exemption for main homes, and instead recommended an annual levy on any increase in value of a property.

The erroneous article was published in June, and the press regulator ruled on the inaccuracy in November. The MoS must now publish Ipso’s ruling on page 2 of its print edition and on the top half of its website for 24 hours. But because the paper sought a review of the process by which the decision was made, publication of the correction has been delayed until after the election.

The thing that puzzles me is how they could tell this particular piece of BS from all the rest of their stories. :lol: Still be taken as gospel on here though. :laughing6:




There's virtually nothing from the land for the many report that's been brought forward to the current Labour manifesto. It would be toxic in a lot of their metropolitan heartlands. Can we take it that what's not been brought forward into the manifesto wont be legislated within the next government. No change to the Property tax system. No landlord / tenant sales discount. No real move to the Marxist principals that the state owns all the land. Is there a guarantee that all the proposals in the report that are not within their manifesto wont be brought forward. Of course there isn't.


Aye.a bit like Boris saying the NHS is not on the agenda with the yanks. :lol:



selling the NHS...I would expect this absolute nonsense from josh/dave. piledriver and the extremely gullible... but come on.. try reading the document.
the fact that it was a 1 day story which happened to conveniently deflect a poor interview should spell it out in super size ..

The NHS is the sacred cow of British politics it would be electoral suicide to sell it, yet every election we get this shite from Labour.



it would be not just electoral suicide for one election either. not sure either party would survive ending the NHS.
and the fact ...the tories are selling the NHS, LOOK I have a book ive coloured in earlier which said as much . lasted all of one day in the main stream news makes it by far THE biggest lie of the campaign by anyone.

Locked political thread

Tue Dec 10, 2019 6:55 pm

Why is it giving false information and locked?

The story was not false at all. The hospital (and prime minister) have confirmed it and apologised.

The woman who claimed it was staged has now claimed her account was hacked.

Re: Locked political thread

Tue Dec 10, 2019 6:58 pm

Wrong.

The information is incorrect.

I've now deleted the topic because it's a lie.

Re: Locked political thread

Tue Dec 10, 2019 7:00 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:Wrong.

The information is incorrect.

I've now deleted the topic because it's a lie.


I don’t think anyone is seriously claiming it is a lie anymore.

Where are you getting that from?

Re: Locked political thread

Tue Dec 10, 2019 7:01 pm

WhiteXmas wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:Wrong.

The information is incorrect.

I've now deleted the topic because it's a lie.


I don’t think anyone is seriously claiming it is a lie anymore.

Where are you getting that from?


I know it's a lie. Conversation over.

Re: " GENERAL ELECTION 2019 TOPIC "

Tue Dec 10, 2019 7:02 pm

The left who are so keen on the Government borrowing billions won’t be so keen when their wage slips have a disproportionate amount of tax sliced out of it, and their mortgages increase and their savings eroded by inflation.

That is until they are made unemployed as the economy totally crashes, and their houses repossessed.

And McDonnell and Corbyn the architects of this catastrophe will slope off to their second homes on a fat civil service pension funded by the public.

Re: " GENERAL ELECTION 2019 TOPIC "

Tue Dec 10, 2019 7:05 pm

Just a reminder that I will be moving all politics topics to this topic.

Enough people have complained that they don't want it all over the forum.

Just the sensible thing to do.

Re: Locked political thread

Tue Dec 10, 2019 7:05 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:
WhiteXmas wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:Wrong.

The information is incorrect.

I've now deleted the topic because it's a lie.


I don’t think anyone is seriously claiming it is a lie anymore.

Where are you getting that from?


I know it's a lie. Conversation over.


No you don’t. You have guessed and are using your political views to sway others.

Those that have claimed it’s a lie have been proven to be part of a ploy and have since claimed to have been hacked.

The hospital has confirmed it is real and apologised for it.

Re: Locked political thread

Tue Dec 10, 2019 7:09 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:Wrong.

The information is incorrect.

I've now deleted the topic because it's a lie.



its ok to not delete libelous rumours but ok to delete labour lies being put out there with the dirty washing ?

Re: Locked political thread

Tue Dec 10, 2019 7:13 pm

dogfound wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:Wrong.

The information is incorrect.

I've now deleted the topic because it's a lie.



its ok to not delete libelous rumours but ok to delete labour lies being put out there with the dirty washing ?


It isn’t even libellous. They are confirmed stories with the “offending party” (the hospital) conforming it.

Worcester has read some silly tweets that people have since backed away from and has taken it as the truth. In reality he’s believing what he wants to believe and shaping discussion to that standard.

Propaganda in other words, which means the truth is often not important. Which seems the case here.