Ot boris shutting down parliament

Funny how the brochure sent to every household in the UK never mentioned "non legally binding". I voted, but had I known this was simply an advisory exercise, I most certainly would have stayed at home rather than visit the Polling Station. If I was a betting person, I would wager that hardly anyone who cast a vote knew that this was a non legally binding referendum. I think most, like me, believed what was in the pamphlet sent by the government, as well as the fact we were told this was a once in a generation vote. This "advisory only" rubbish came out long after the remoaners lost, and is just one of numerous points that they keep throwing down our throats simply because they did not get the result they wanted.

Great point Steve. We often hear leave voters didn't know what we were voting for but that was only true in relation to the referendum being 'advisory', because I certainly didn't know that was the case and assumed like you that the promise in the Cameron's pamphlet to implement the result was a binding agreement between the Government and the population who had been asked to give their view on an important constitutional question.

Over the past 3 years I have slowly come to believe that this 'advisory' nonsense was a planted 'backstop' (to nick a phrase) which could be triggered if we did vote to leave.

All it took was a patsy like Gena Miller to take the Government to court and hand the running of BREXIT to an unrepresented Parliament (who are 70% remain and with a bias Speaker) who could then disrupt and derail BREXIT for years with the intention of stopping it altogether.

I fully accept Boris is pulling fast one and using underhand tactics but for years remain have been doing the same. John Bercow a supposedly impartial Speaker of the House has openly boasted of his intention to stop BREXIT despite the result of the referendum. So the PM has decided to fight fire with fire and good for him!

While I totally agree that nobody knew at the time, the bill that went through Parliament says clearly that the referendum was ‘advisory’ and not legally binding. Truth is both sides have been making things up to help their arguments.

Truth is Wales and the UK as a whole want to leave this failing project. All the rest is just wind and piss, we voted to leave it’s time we left.

As a Scotsman you should be aware that Scotland voted remain as did the north of Ireland. Brexit has hastened the end of the uk, Scotland will soon be free and The island of Ireland will be one country. That leaves Wales and England! Hod help us

As a Scotsman I know Scotland did better as part of a United Kingdom than on its own.As a Scotsman I. Know Braveheart isn’t a documentary. The Natz based their economy on one commodity, oil. what’s your plan for Wales? What do you suggest people in Northern Ireland who wish to remain British do, in the event of a United Ireland.

As a Scotsman you should also know that whisky is the uk’s biggest export! Think you’ll find that England needs Scotland more than Scotland needs England!

This is either the biggest wind up of the day, or you are totally stupid, or maybe you've been drinking too much of what you've mentioned above.

While I totally agree that nobody knew at the time, the bill that went through Parliament says clearly that the referendum was ‘advisory’ and not legally binding. Truth is both sides have been making things up to help their arguments.

Well I wish you would tell that to the remain side. I fully accept that the 'bus' was a huge mistake and pushed the point so much that it could-not have been credible i.e. £370mpw would go to the NHS when we didn't actually send £370m to the EU when the rebate and project spending in the UK was taken into account.

However, remain were just as bad. No mention the referendum was 'advisory' until after they lost, 800,000 job losses just by voting for BREXIT and Osborne's punishment budget both of which NEVER happened.

But the one thing that drives me mad about remain spokesmen is when they start telling me 'what I voted for' and 'what I knew'. They have no authority to speak on behalf of leave voters and certainly shouldn't put dishonest words into our mouths.

I voted out and if that meant no deal then I fully understood the consequences.

Funny you talk about George Osbourne's punishment which was £30 billion but the bank of England has said we've lost growth of over £73billion thanks to brexit.
We're also currently on nearly 250,000 job losses due to brexit (not including indirect job losses) so I imagine after no deal we'll hit your 800,000 and you can be happy.
For balance here's some leave lies:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EBxWiRz6A9E
I have to give credit to the leavers who apparently saw through all these dastardly lies and instead knew that they were voting, not for sovereignty or wealth, but to make themselves worse off

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ We're leaving get over it

While I totally agree that nobody knew at the time, the bill that went through Parliament says clearly that the referendum was ‘advisory’ and not legally binding. Truth is both sides have been making things up to help their arguments.

Well I wish you would tell that to the remain side. I fully accept that the 'bus' was a huge mistake and pushed the point so much that it could-not have been credible i.e. £370mpw would go to the NHS when we didn't actually send £370m to the EU when the rebate and project spending in the UK was taken into account.

However, remain were just as bad. No mention the referendum was 'advisory' until after they lost, 800,000 job losses just by voting for BREXIT and Osborne's punishment budget both of which NEVER happened.

But the one thing that drives me mad about remain spokesmen is when they start telling me 'what I voted for' and 'what I knew'. They have no authority to speak on behalf of leave voters and certainly shouldn't put dishonest words into our mouths.

I voted out and if that meant no deal then I fully understood the consequences.

Funny you talk about George Osbourne's punishment which was £30 billion but the bank of England has said we've lost growth of over £73billion thanks to brexit.
We're also currently on nearly 250,000 job losses due to brexit (not including indirect job losses) so I imagine after no deal we'll hit your 800,000 and you can be happy.
For balance here's some leave lies:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EBxWiRz6A9E
I have to give credit to the leavers who apparently saw through all these dastardly lies and instead knew that they were voting, not for sovereignty or wealth, but to make themselves worse off

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ We're leaving get over it

You sure

Funny how the brochure sent to every household in the UK never mentioned "non legally binding". I voted, but had I known this was simply an advisory exercise, I most certainly would have stayed at home rather than visit the Polling Station. If I was a betting person, I would wager that hardly anyone who cast a vote knew that this was a non legally binding referendum. I think most, like me, believed what was in the pamphlet sent by the government, as well as the fact we were told this was a once in a generation vote. This "advisory only" rubbish came out long after the remoaners lost, and is just one of numerous points that they keep throwing down our throats simply because they did not get the result they wanted.

Great point Steve. We often hear leave voters didn't know what we were voting for but that was only true in relation to the referendum being 'advisory', because I certainly didn't know that was the case and assumed like you that the promise in the Cameron's pamphlet to implement the result was a binding agreement between the Government and the population who had been asked to give their view on an important constitutional question.

Over the past 3 years I have slowly come to believe that this 'advisory' nonsense was a planted 'backstop' (to nick a phrase) which could be triggered if we did vote to leave.

All it took was a patsy like Gena Miller to take the Government to court and hand the running of BREXIT to an unrepresented Parliament (who are 70% remain and with a bias Speaker) who could then disrupt and derail BREXIT for years with the intention of stopping it altogether.

I fully accept Boris is pulling fast one and using underhand tactics but for years remain have been doing the same. John Bercow a supposedly impartial Speaker of the House has openly boasted of his intention to stop BREXIT despite the result of the referendum. So the PM has decided to fight fire with fire and good for him!

While I totally agree that nobody knew at the time, the bill that went through Parliament says clearly that the referendum was ‘advisory’ and not legally binding. Truth is both sides have been making things up to help their arguments.

Truth is Wales and the UK as a whole want to leave this failing project. All the rest is just wind and piss, we voted to leave it’s time we left.

As a Scotsman you should be aware that Scotland voted remain as did the north of Ireland. Brexit has hastened the end of the uk, Scotland will soon be free and The island of Ireland will be one country. That leaves Wales and England! Hod help us

As a Scotsman I know Scotland did better as part of a United Kingdom than on its own.As a Scotsman I. Know Braveheart isn’t a documentary. The Natz based their economy on one commodity, oil. what’s your plan for Wales? What do you suggest people in Northern Ireland who wish to remain British do, in the event of a United Ireland.

As a Scotsman you should also know that whisky is the uk’s biggest export! Think you’ll find that England needs Scotland more than Scotland needs England!

This is either the biggest wind up of the day, or you are totally stupid, or maybe you've been drinking too much of what you've mentioned above.

Scotch Whisky topped UK exports in 2018 growing 7.8% in terms of value to £4.7bn. Of course, if you read the articles 30% was to EU countries, which will now be subject to tariffs and could be lost. No wonder Scotland needs to stay in Europe really is it.
https://www.foodmanufacture.co.uk/Artic ... ecord-high
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland- ... s-47211794

Funny how the brochure sent to every household in the UK never mentioned "non legally binding". I voted, but had I known this was simply an advisory exercise, I most certainly would have stayed at home rather than visit the Polling Station. If I was a betting person, I would wager that hardly anyone who cast a vote knew that this was a non legally binding referendum. I think most, like me, believed what was in the pamphlet sent by the government, as well as the fact we were told this was a once in a generation vote. This "advisory only" rubbish came out long after the remoaners lost, and is just one of numerous points that they keep throwing down our throats simply because they did not get the result they wanted.

Great point Steve. We often hear leave voters didn't know what we were voting for but that was only true in relation to the referendum being 'advisory', because I certainly didn't know that was the case and assumed like you that the promise in the Cameron's pamphlet to implement the result was a binding agreement between the Government and the population who had been asked to give their view on an important constitutional question.

Over the past 3 years I have slowly come to believe that this 'advisory' nonsense was a planted 'backstop' (to nick a phrase) which could be triggered if we did vote to leave.

All it took was a patsy like Gena Miller to take the Government to court and hand the running of BREXIT to an unrepresented Parliament (who are 70% remain and with a bias Speaker) who could then disrupt and derail BREXIT for years with the intention of stopping it altogether.

I fully accept Boris is pulling fast one and using underhand tactics but for years remain have been doing the same. John Bercow a supposedly impartial Speaker of the House has openly boasted of his intention to stop BREXIT despite the result of the referendum. So the PM has decided to fight fire with fire and good for him!

While I totally agree that nobody knew at the time, the bill that went through Parliament says clearly that the referendum was ‘advisory’ and not legally binding. Truth is both sides have been making things up to help their arguments.

Truth is Wales and the UK as a whole want to leave this failing project. All the rest is just wind and piss, we voted to leave it’s time we left.

As a Scotsman you should be aware that Scotland voted remain as did the north of Ireland. Brexit has hastened the end of the uk, Scotland will soon be free and The island of Ireland will be one country. That leaves Wales and England! Hod help us

As a Scotsman I know Scotland did better as part of a United Kingdom than on its own.As a Scotsman I. Know Braveheart isn’t a documentary. The Natz based their economy on one commodity, oil. what’s your plan for Wales? What do you suggest people in Northern Ireland who wish to remain British do, in the event of a United Ireland.

As a Scotsman you should also know that whisky is the uk’s biggest export! Think you’ll find that England needs Scotland more than Scotland needs England!

This is either the biggest wind up of the day, or you are totally stupid, or maybe you've been drinking too much of what you've mentioned above.

Scotch Whisky topped UK exports in 2018 growing 7.8% in terms of value to £4.7bn. Of course, if you read the articles 30% was to EU countries, which will now be subject to tariffs and could be lost. No wonder Scotland needs to stay in Europe really is it.
https://www.foodmanufacture.co.uk/Artic ... ecord-high
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland- ... s-47211794

$72.3b machinery inc computers. So on Planet Blue Gog £4.7b is bigger than $72.3b, what exchange rate are you using?

Funny how the brochure sent to every household in the UK never mentioned "non legally binding". I voted, but had I known this was simply an advisory exercise, I most certainly would have stayed at home rather than visit the Polling Station. If I was a betting person, I would wager that hardly anyone who cast a vote knew that this was a non legally binding referendum. I think most, like me, believed what was in the pamphlet sent by the government, as well as the fact we were told this was a once in a generation vote. This "advisory only" rubbish came out long after the remoaners lost, and is just one of numerous points that they keep throwing down our throats simply because they did not get the result they wanted.

Great point Steve. We often hear leave voters didn't know what we were voting for but that was only true in relation to the referendum being 'advisory', because I certainly didn't know that was the case and assumed like you that the promise in the Cameron's pamphlet to implement the result was a binding agreement between the Government and the population who had been asked to give their view on an important constitutional question.

Over the past 3 years I have slowly come to believe that this 'advisory' nonsense was a planted 'backstop' (to nick a phrase) which could be triggered if we did vote to leave.

All it took was a patsy like Gena Miller to take the Government to court and hand the running of BREXIT to an unrepresented Parliament (who are 70% remain and with a bias Speaker) who could then disrupt and derail BREXIT for years with the intention of stopping it altogether.

I fully accept Boris is pulling fast one and using underhand tactics but for years remain have been doing the same. John Bercow a supposedly impartial Speaker of the House has openly boasted of his intention to stop BREXIT despite the result of the referendum. So the PM has decided to fight fire with fire and good for him!

While I totally agree that nobody knew at the time, the bill that went through Parliament says clearly that the referendum was ‘advisory’ and not legally binding. Truth is both sides have been making things up to help their arguments.

Truth is Wales and the UK as a whole want to leave this failing project. All the rest is just wind and piss, we voted to leave it’s time we left.

As a Scotsman you should be aware that Scotland voted remain as did the north of Ireland. Brexit has hastened the end of the uk, Scotland will soon be free and The island of Ireland will be one country. That leaves Wales and England! Hod help us

As a Scotsman I know Scotland did better as part of a United Kingdom than on its own.As a Scotsman I. Know Braveheart isn’t a documentary. The Natz based their economy on one commodity, oil. what’s your plan for Wales? What do you suggest people in Northern Ireland who wish to remain British do, in the event of a United Ireland.

As a Scotsman you should also know that whisky is the uk’s biggest export! Think you’ll find that England needs Scotland more than Scotland needs England!

This is either the biggest wind up of the day, or you are totally stupid, or maybe you've been drinking too much of what you've mentioned above.

Scotch Whisky topped UK exports in 2018 growing 7.8% in terms of value to £4.7bn. Of course, if you read the articles 30% was to EU countries, which will now be subject to tariffs and could be lost. No wonder Scotland needs to stay in Europe really is it.
https://www.foodmanufacture.co.uk/Artic ... ecord-high
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland- ... s-47211794

Are you seriously trying to tell me that Scotland's economy could survive on whisky export sales.???

Are you seriously trying to tell me that Scotland's economy could survive on whisky export sales.???

Yes that's exactly what he said... 'Scotland's economy could survive on whisky export sales'

Are you seriously trying to tell me that Scotland's economy could survive on whisky export sales.???

Yes that's exactly what he said... 'Scotland's economy could survive on whisky export sales'

He was on about the welsh economy surviving on selling water and electricity the other day

Are you seriously trying to tell me that Scotland's economy could survive on whisky export sales.???

Yes that's exactly what he said... 'Scotland's economy could survive on whisky export sales'

Whisky and deep fried Mars Bars.

Are you seriously trying to tell me that Scotland's economy could survive on whisky export sales.???

Yes that's exactly what he said... 'Scotland's economy could survive on whisky export sales'

He was on about the welsh economy surviving on selling water and electricity the other day

That’s a dangerous mix, hope he’s packaging them separately.

Are you seriously trying to tell me that Scotland's economy could survive on whisky export sales.???

Yes that's exactly what he said... 'Scotland's economy could survive on whisky export sales'

He was on about the welsh economy surviving on selling water and electricity the other day

That’s a dangerous mix, hope he’s packaging them separately.

If Scotch whisky was the UK's biggest export at S4 billion we would be well and truly up sh*t street. Reckon most of that stuff must have been exported to his house.

Are you seriously trying to tell me that Scotland's economy could survive on whisky export sales.???

Yes that's exactly what he said... 'Scotland's economy could survive on whisky export sales'

He was on about the welsh economy surviving on selling water and electricity the other day

That’s a dangerous mix, hope he’s packaging them separately.

If Scotch whisky was the UK's biggest export at S4 billion we would be well and truly up sh*t street. Reckon most of that stuff must have been exported to his house.

Think he's had a few bottles today

Think you all need to settle down and stick to football

Think you all need to settle down and stick to football

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Funny you talk about George Osbourne's punishment which was £30 billion but the bank of England has said we've lost growth of over £73billion thanks to brexit.
We're also currently on nearly 250,000 job losses due to brexit (not including indirect job losses) so I imagine after no deal we'll hit your 800,000 and you can be happy.
For balance here's some leave lies:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EBxWiRz6A9E
I have to give credit to the leavers who apparently saw through all these dastardly lies and instead knew that they were voting, not for sovereignty or wealth, but to make themselves worse off

Here we go remain will grab any stat to try and prove their position. Firstly there was no Osborne punishment budget which was simply part of 'Project Fear' i.e. an attempt to frighten voters into voting remain.

Secondly we have lost growth since the BREXIT vote, BUT that was not due to the BREXIT vote. Germany very much part of the EU has lost even more growth over the same period and so has France and other EU countries. If the EU was this economic heaven then surely these countries would have been shielded from OUR decision to leave?

The reason why they were not is there are other factors out there which affect world growth. The impending US/China trade war is far more of a factor than BREXIT will ever be to world growth.

Where you get 250,000 job losses from is beyond me. Since the BREXIT vote unemployment has fallen significantly and presently their is a record number of people in work

Funny you talk about George Osbourne's punishment which was £30 billion but the bank of England has said we've lost growth of over £73billion thanks to brexit.
We're also currently on nearly 250,000 job losses due to brexit (not including indirect job losses) so I imagine after no deal we'll hit your 800,000 and you can be happy.
For balance here's some leave lies:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EBxWiRz6A9E
I have to give credit to the leavers who apparently saw through all these dastardly lies and instead knew that they were voting, not for sovereignty or wealth, but to make themselves worse off

Here we go remain will grab any stat to try and prove their position. Firstly there was no Osborne punishment budget which was simply part of 'Project Fear' i.e. an attempt to frighten voters into voting remain.

Secondly we have lost growth since the BREXIT vote, BUT that was not due to the BREXIT vote. Germany very much part of the EU has lost even more growth over the same period and so has France and other EU countries. If the EU was this economic heaven then surely these countries would have been shielded from OUR decision to leave?

The reason why they were not is there are other factors out there which affect world growth. The impending US/China trade war is far more of a factor than BREXIT will ever be to world growth.

Where you get 250,000 job losses from is beyond me. Since the BREXIT vote unemployment has fallen significantly and presently their is a record number of people in work

All he does is acuse leave statements as lies it's all through his posts ! And then uses whatever media outlet to put up questionable statements by remainers that are all true? Stopped responding to him now as pointless exercise ..

Remainers lost court case in Scotland to stop boris so now have to wait until full hearing next week

Funny you talk about George Osbourne's punishment which was £30 billion but the bank of England has said we've lost growth of over £73billion thanks to brexit.
We're also currently on nearly 250,000 job losses due to brexit (not including indirect job losses) so I imagine after no deal we'll hit your 800,000 and you can be happy.
For balance here's some leave lies:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EBxWiRz6A9E
I have to give credit to the leavers who apparently saw through all these dastardly lies and instead knew that they were voting, not for sovereignty or wealth, but to make themselves worse off

Here we go remain will grab any stat to try and prove their position. Firstly there was no Osborne punishment budget which was simply part of 'Project Fear' i.e. an attempt to frighten voters into voting remain.

Secondly we have lost growth since the BREXIT vote, BUT that was not due to the BREXIT vote. Germany very much part of the EU has lost even more growth over the same period and so has France and other EU countries. If the EU was this economic heaven then surely these countries would have been shielded from OUR decision to leave?

The reason why they were not is there are other factors out there which affect world growth. The impending US/China trade war is far more of a factor than BREXIT will ever be to world growth.

Where you get 250,000 job losses from is beyond me. Since the BREXIT vote unemployment has fallen significantly and presently their is a record number of people in work

Everything I have read in the press and watched on TV has stated regularly that unemployment is at it's lowest for goodness knows how many years, and that we now have a record number of people in work. With regards to George Osborne, he is the person who told us all that just simply voting to leave would mean an emergency budget being required (within weeks of a leave vote) to stop the economy from falling off the edge of a cliff, unemployment would soar, and our stock market would collapse. None of this happened or got close to happening, so you will have to excuse me if I take everything that our then Chancellor said as being rubbish, just the same as I take most of what the remain politicians say as being rubbish. Only a matter of time before they blame climate change and the death of Martin Luther King on Brexit, probably the only two things they have not yet come out with.

Parliament voted for no deal when they triggered Article 50 and rejected May's deal 3 times.

No deal was widely discussed by campaigners during the referendum.

The people and parliament voted for no deal.

No deal it is, start hording tins of soup and bottles of peroni.

Remainers have become hysterical, the media whipping up ever more hysteria through blatantly and repeatedly reporting incorrect facts, infact outright lies, Barry Gardiner Labour front bencher encouraging civil disobedience and condoning it as legitimate (and thus by definition not fit ever to be in Govt). So what is so bad?. Here are the facts;

Parliament is NOT being prorogued for 5 weeks but 5 days maximum!
MPs had already agreed to a recess for 4 weeks to enable party conferences to take place, as happens EVERY YEAR!

It is NORMAL CONSTITUTIONAL PRACTICE for a new PM to select a new Cabinet and prorogue Parliament for a new Queens Speech

The current session of Parliament has already been sitting for the longest time in 400 years, and is massively overdue!.

BORIS JOHNSON is NOT being UNDEMOCRATIC, NOT BEING a DICTATOR, but legitimately following custom and practice

Article 50 was passed in law by a significant majority around 2.5 years ago for the UK to leave the EU WITH or WITHOUT a deal!

MPs have had 3 years to debate and reach agreement on what they consider an acceptable deal and HAVE FAILED to do so!
MPs have REJECTED 3 times the only deal the EU is prepared to offer to date, despite it keeping the UK closely tied to the EU, almost certainly in definitely!
MPs have requested 2 extensions lasting 9 months and have FAILED to come up with and AGREE any ALTERNATIVES with just about every conceivable option being put forward, by numerous MPs across all parties!

MPs STILL have no idea how to resolve the issue, other than SEEK ANOTHER EXTENSION!

WITHOUT NO DEAL, the UK has no negotiating powers, the EU ALWAYS negotiates hard, we will achieve nothing more from the EU by removing no deal!

THE EU will grant another Extension, as it's in their interests, but will dictate the terms of doing so to Parliament!

So where does this leave us;

Democracy has NOT been sidelined

Parliament is NOT being prorogued for 5 weeks but a max of one week

The PM is NOT being unconstitutional.

MPs have already passed a law that means the UK can legally leave the EU on 31/10/19 without a deal

A definition of insanity is doing what you have always done and keep expecting a different outcome!

If the EU will not offer a better deal then its time to leave on WTO terms and move on.

Remainers have become hysterical, the media whipping up ever more hysteria through blatantly and repeatedly reporting incorrect facts, infact outright lies, Barry Gardiner Labour front bencher encouraging civil disobedience and condoning it as legitimate (and thus by definition not fit ever to be in Govt). So what is so bad?. Here are the facts;

Parliament is NOT being prorogued for 5 weeks but 5 days maximum!
MPs had already agreed to a recess for 4 weeks to enable party conferences to take place, as happens EVERY YEAR!

It is NORMAL CONSTITUTIONAL PRACTICE for a new PM to select a new Cabinet and prorogue Parliament for a new Queens Speech

The current session of Parliament has already been sitting for the longest time in 400 years, and is massively overdue!.

BORIS JOHNSON is NOT being UNDEMOCRATIC, NOT BEING a DICTATOR, but legitimately following custom and practice

Article 50 was passed in law by a significant majority around 2.5 years ago for the UK to leave the EU WITH or WITHOUT a deal!

MPs have had 3 years to debate and reach agreement on what they consider an acceptable deal and HAVE FAILED to do so!
MPs have REJECTED 3 times the only deal the EU is prepared to offer to date, despite it keeping the UK closely tied to the EU, almost certainly in definitely!
MPs have requested 2 extensions lasting 9 months and have FAILED to come up with and AGREE any ALTERNATIVES with just about every conceivable option being put forward, by numerous MPs across all parties!

MPs STILL have no idea how to resolve the issue, other than SEEK ANOTHER EXTENSION!

WITHOUT NO DEAL, the UK has no negotiating powers, the EU ALWAYS negotiates hard, we will achieve nothing more from the EU by removing no deal!

THE EU will grant another Extension, as it's in their interests, but will dictate the terms of doing so to Parliament!

So where does this leave us;

Democracy has NOT been sidelined

Parliament is NOT being prorogued for 5 weeks but a max of one week

The PM is NOT being unconstitutional.

MPs have already passed a law that means the UK can legally leave the EU on 31/10/19 without a deal

A definition of insanity is doing what you have always done and keep expecting a different outcome!

If the EU will not offer a better deal then its time to leave on WTO terms and move on.

Wez EU are hoping and praying that remain somehow stop Brexit as if we do leave deal or no deal it could mean financial disaster for several countries plus how many more would like to leave? Italy for one and Greece is another once you open door the question is how many countries will go through it besides uk?

“Usual right wing bollox,”.
MP’s are denied the time to debate, this is an affront to democracy, by a tin pot dictator Boris Johnson.
“Be careful what you wish for.”

In the 2017 general election 85% of voters voted for parties whose manifesto committed to honouring the result of the referendum. Just under 90% of the elected MP's stood under that manifesto commitment. On the basis that the 2 main parties seldom share a manifesto commitment and the unusually high share of the vote its almost certainly the biggest mandate given on a particular issue in British history.

We shouldn't be having this conversation, we should already be out but there's been a gross perversion of democracy by those who've sought to overturn the result of the from the very beginning. They've sought to thwart the process at every turn.

“Usual right wing bollox,”.
MP’s are denied the time to debate, this is an affront to democracy, by a tin pot dictator Boris Johnson.
“Be careful what you wish for.”

whats an affront to democracy is these candidates { as they were then } happy to stand behind their parties manifesto commitments when all along they were standing under false pretences..

It seems that observing the democratic process is now right wing.. it reeks of a failure to observe reality.

“Usual right wing bollox,”.
MP’s are denied the time to debate, this is an affront to democracy, by a tin pot dictator Boris Johnson.
“Be careful what you wish for.”

are 5 million labour voters now right wing

In the 2017 general election 85% of voters voted for parties whose manifesto committed to honouring the result of the referendum. Just under 90% of the elected MP's stood under that manifesto commitment. On the basis that the 2 main parties seldom share a manifesto commitment and the unusually high share of the vote its almost certainly the biggest mandate given on a particular issue in British history.

We shouldn't be having this conversation, we should already be out but there's been a gross perversion of democracy by those who've sought to overturn the result of the from the very beginning. They've sought to thwart the process at every turn.

Top post.

As Gordon Brown showed, the Socialists have always hated the working class. Whats worse, are the middle class socialists who preach ideaology to those they pretend not to look down upon. Oddly enough, they all tend to work in the media or education.

Pontcanna is HQ.

“Usual right wing bollox,”.
MP’s are denied the time to debate, this is an affront to democracy, by a tin pot dictator Boris Johnson.
“Be careful what you wish for.”

"Denied the time to debate".....these excuses for MP's have had 3 years to debate and have refused to back a deal 3 times. It's obvious that the remainers are not trying to stop "no deal" Brexit, they are trying to stop Brexit. The ballot box will put pay to many of these MP's.