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Re: Mcburnie is off

Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:37 am

Vincent Man wrote:Did I just read “the yanks are not bleeding us dry”
Made my day that has
Pmsl ever since I read that


Yes you did. It was a factual statement, not an opinion.

The accounts are transparent and available for public viewing.

Re: Mcburnie is off

Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:39 am

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
As I said handy thing to have if you are going on a pre-season tour of the Himalayas :D :roll:


It has nothing to do with playing at altitude, it just creates the environment that represents the oxygen levels at altitude, it means and ground level the body trains far harder meaning fitness increases - be that for a match up Mount Etna or Old Trafford.

Re: Mcburnie is off

Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:41 am

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
'you think you'll be alright without McBurnie?' You finished 10th with both his goals and those from Dan James who has also gone. Take that contribution away and you plummet end of. :roll:


Yes of course I do. As I said, it doesn’t work like how you suggest. We sold our top scorer nearly every season I can remember, that goes back to Scott Sinclair and Jason Scotland days in the Championship. It doesn’t mean you score 20+ goals less :D

Re: Mcburnie is off

Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:01 pm

I must that’s a good deal for the Jacks, I don’t rate McBurnie and Sheffield Utd are doomed of he’s their main goal hope.

He’s top half of the Championship at absolute best.

But only a good deal if they replace.

The Zohore deal was a similarly good deal for us that only really became good once we secured a decent replacement. If we get another striker out of he same money it becomes a very good deal !!

Re: Mcburnie is off

Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:11 pm

JackSensealot wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
'you think you'll be alright without McBurnie?' You finished 10th with both his goals and those from Dan James who has also gone. Take that contribution away and you plummet end of. :roll:


Yes of course I do. As I said, it doesn’t work like how you suggest. We sold our top scorer nearly every season I can remember, that goes back to Scott Sinclair and Jason Scotland days in the Championship. It doesn’t mean you score 20+ goals less :D


Hole in that argument is you have in the past generally brought in replacements.......

Re: Mcburnie is off

Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:12 pm

JackSensealot wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
As I said handy thing to have if you are going on a pre-season tour of the Himalayas :D :roll:


It has nothing to do with playing at altitude, it just creates the environment that represents the oxygen levels at altitude, it means and ground level the body trains far harder meaning fitness increases - be that for a match up Mount Etna or Old Trafford.


Obviously worth the investment finishing 10th in the Championship :laughing5: :roll:

Re: Mcburnie is off

Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:27 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
JackSensealot wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
'you think you'll be alright without McBurnie?' You finished 10th with both his goals and those from Dan James who has also gone. Take that contribution away and you plummet end of. :roll:


Yes of course I do. As I said, it doesn’t work like how you suggest. We sold our top scorer nearly every season I can remember, that goes back to Scott Sinclair and Jason Scotland days in the Championship. It doesn’t mean you score 20+ goals less :D


Hole in that argument is you have in the past generally brought in replacements.......



It's ok they will find 20 odd goals from around the team! Everyone knows in championship you need good defence and ability to get goals we did it on defense Fulham on scoring..... last season swans failed somewhere in between by losing to many games time will tell if fail again with the tactics of selling good players replacing with on a wing & prayer good players . Like latest one

Re: Mcburnie is off

Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:27 pm

JackSensealot wrote:
Vincent Man wrote:Did I just read “the yanks are not bleeding us dry”
Made my day that has
Pmsl ever since I read that


Yes you did. It was a factual statement, not an opinion.

The accounts are transparent and available for public viewing.


In 2018 you had a turnover (without player sales) of £128m plus a trading profit on players of £46m yet SCFC made a LOSS of £2.1m :shock:

Also you are paying directors incomes of £600kpa :o

From what I understand dividends to shareholders don't actually show on balance sheets the amount is deducted from incomes received.

But the real question is "where did £178m go in only 12 months?"

Re: Mcburnie is off

Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:32 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
JackSensealot wrote:
Vincent Man wrote:Did I just read “the yanks are not bleeding us dry”
Made my day that has
Pmsl ever since I read that


Yes you did. It was a factual statement, not an opinion.

The accounts are transparent and available for public viewing.


In 2018 you had a turnover (without player sales) of £128m plus a trading profit on players of £46m yet SCFC made a LOSS of £2.1m :shock:

Also you are paying directors incomes of £600kpa :o

From what I understand dividends to shareholders don't actually show on balance sheets the amount is deducted from incomes received.

But the real question is "where did £178m go in only 12 months?"



One of a few people in Swansea who thinks the yanks are investing millions in the club ? :shock:

Re: Mcburnie is off

Fri Aug 02, 2019 1:05 pm

I am still pmsl

Re: Mcburnie is off

Fri Aug 02, 2019 1:38 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
Hole in that argument is you have in the past generally brought in replacements.......


On the same day? No we didn’t.

In the meantime, we do however now have use of our record signing Borja Baston who was signed for £16.5m from Atletico Madrid and scored game before last, presumably with a view to McBurnie leaving.

Re: Mcburnie is off

Fri Aug 02, 2019 1:41 pm

pembroke allan wrote:One of a few people in Swansea who thinks the yanks are investing millions in the club ? :shock:


I’m not sure what you mean by that.

I said every penny we make from transfers goes back into the club for overheads. Again, not an opinion but documented fact. I know it’s more fun to make up rumour... but rumours that can be proven to be rubbish don’t hold much weight.

Re: Mcburnie is off

Fri Aug 02, 2019 1:47 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
In 2018 you had a turnover (without player sales) of £128m plus a trading profit on players of £46m yet SCFC made a LOSS of £2.1m :shock:

Also you are paying directors incomes of £600kpa :o

From what I understand dividends to shareholders don't actually show on balance sheets the amount is deducted from incomes received.

But the real question is "where did £178m go in only 12 months?"


Yes dividends do get shown, of course they do. They also have to be announced and agreed upon, the Trust would also have received 22% of any dividend payment. Plus you can only take a dividend if the club makes a profit, and even then you can only take a portion of that profit. The last dividends paid to shareholders I believe was 2014/15.

You are also not understanding the nature of transfers and a balance sheet. You do not add up the sum paid and sum recurved for players, they are amortised. That means in that year although you think we sold a player for 20m, in that tax year we may only have received a quarter of it.

All money received by the club is spent by the club.

Re: Mcburnie is off

Fri Aug 02, 2019 1:50 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
JackSensealot wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
As I said handy thing to have if you are going on a pre-season tour of the Himalayas :D :roll:


It has nothing to do with playing at altitude, it just creates the environment that represents the oxygen levels at altitude, it means and ground level the body trains far harder meaning fitness increases - be that for a match up Mount Etna or Old Trafford.


Obviously worth the investment finishing 10th in the Championship :laughing5: :roll:


It certainly was worth it and still is. We just had the most successful decade in Welsh club history, certainly since colour TV was invented, our facilities absolutely played their part be that from a player acquisition standpoint to basically doing the job it was intended to do and making the squad as fit as possible.

Re: Mcburnie is off

Fri Aug 02, 2019 2:03 pm

Five pages of discussion about a Swansea player. I think some City fans are more obsessed with the Swans than they are with their own club.

Re: Mcburnie is off

Fri Aug 02, 2019 3:07 pm

Steve Zodiak wrote:Five pages of discussion about a Swansea player. I think some City fans are more obsessed with the Swans than they are with their own club.





Nothing better to do really got to keep the resident swans fans occupied as they've nothing better to talk about on their forum ? :laughing6:

Re: Mcburnie is off

Fri Aug 02, 2019 4:15 pm

JackSensealot wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
JackSensealot wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
As I said handy thing to have if you are going on a pre-season tour of the Himalayas :D :roll:


It has nothing to do with playing at altitude, it just creates the environment that represents the oxygen levels at altitude, it means and ground level the body trains far harder meaning fitness increases - be that for a match up Mount Etna or Old Trafford.


Obviously worth the investment finishing 10th in the Championship :laughing5: :roll:


It certainly was worth it and still is. We just had the most successful decade in Welsh club history, certainly since colour TV was invented, our facilities absolutely played their part be that from a player acquisition standpoint to basically doing the job it was intended to do and making the squad as fit as possible.


I see the freak show roathie is now in full flow, how's Australia these days :lol: you must now be up posting all night. :lol: :lol:

Re: Mcburnie is off

Fri Aug 02, 2019 4:34 pm

JackSensealot wrote:
GENERAL CHAT wrote:
More cash for the yanks to filter out... :lol: :lol: :lol:


They are doing no such thing, the accounts are there for all to see.

This transfer will pretty much erase any money concerns and have a small portion available to replace. A good player but 20m is a no brainer for us.


Hiya Roathie. You utter headcase.

Re: Mcburnie is off

Fri Aug 02, 2019 4:44 pm

JackSensealot wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
JackSensealot wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
As I said handy thing to have if you are going on a pre-season tour of the Himalayas :D :roll:


It has nothing to do with playing at altitude, it just creates the environment that represents the oxygen levels at altitude, it means and ground level the body trains far harder meaning fitness increases - be that for a match up Mount Etna or Old Trafford.


Obviously worth the investment finishing 10th in the Championship :laughing5: :roll:


It certainly was worth it and still is. We just had the most successful decade in Welsh club history, certainly since colour TV was invented, our facilities absolutely played their part be that from a player acquisition standpoint to basically doing the job it was intended to do and making the squad as fit as possible.


Utter shite :lol:

I don’t remember you finishing second only missing out on a league title by goal difference or winning the most prestigious and oldest national cup competition in the world (as well as being runner up and winning the community shield). Your last decade comes nowhere close to Cardiff in the 1920’s.

Re: Mcburnie is off

Fri Aug 02, 2019 5:19 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
JackSensealot wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
As I said handy thing to have if you are going on a pre-season tour of the Himalayas :D :roll:


It has nothing to do with playing at altitude, it just creates the environment that represents the oxygen levels at altitude, it means and ground level the body trains far harder meaning fitness increases - be that for a match up Mount Etna or Old Trafford.


Obviously worth the investment finishing 10th in the Championship :laughing5: :roll:


And then selling your Manager and two best players, and not replacing players and replacing the Manager with a massive Bluebirds fan's Son (also a Bluebird himself), who has never managed a League team :laughing6:

Can you imagine the fun if agent Cooper loses the first ten games :laughing5:

Re: Mcburnie is off

Fri Aug 02, 2019 5:49 pm

Couple of questions for you, Will you finish above us this season? and who has the better squad at this moment in time swansea or cardiff? :bluescarf: :ayatollah:

Re: Mcburnie is off

Fri Aug 02, 2019 5:53 pm

Oxygen therapy is more likely to be used to reduce inflammation. It doesn’t make anyone train harder, or fitter.

Re: Mcburnie is off

Fri Aug 02, 2019 7:37 pm

phildavies wrote:
Utter shite :lol:

I don’t remember you finishing second only missing out on a league title by goal difference or winning the most prestigious and oldest national cup competition in the world (as well as being runner up and winning the community shield). Your last decade comes nowhere close to Cardiff in the 1920’s.


The 1920’s :D

Fair play.

Re: Mcburnie is off

Fri Aug 02, 2019 7:38 pm

rumpo kid wrote:Oxygen therapy is more likely to be used to reduce inflammation. It doesn’t make anyone train harder, or fitter.


It isn’t oxygen therapy. Oxygen therapy increases oxygen not decreases, it’s to do with fitness and endurance.

Re: Mcburnie is off

Fri Aug 02, 2019 7:40 pm

JJbluebird wrote:Couple of questions for you, Will you finish above us this season? and who has the better squad at this moment in time swansea or cardiff? :bluescarf: :ayatollah:


Time will tell, I have no idea as haven’t seen you play.

If I was pushed I would say Cardiff have a better and more experienced squad so can expect to finish higher, we are still in a period of consolidation.

Re: Mcburnie is off

Fri Aug 02, 2019 7:54 pm

JackSensealot wrote:
phildavies wrote:
Utter shite :lol:

I don’t remember you finishing second only missing out on a league title by goal difference or winning the most prestigious and oldest national cup competition in the world (as well as being runner up and winning the community shield). Your last decade comes nowhere close to Cardiff in the 1920’s.


The 1920’s :D

Fair play.


Yes but to be fair it could be most decades because as a club we have been more successful than you. Just look at the difference in Europe for example your best result was reaching the last 32. Whilst we have reached the semi finals as well as the quarter finals on two other occasion the list of teams we have defeated in Europe is also much more prestigious than yours where you lost the majority of your first round games.

This is the problem with a lot of people from Swansea they try to compare themselves to Cardiff even though their really is no comparison.

Re: Mcburnie is off

Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:01 pm

phildavies wrote:Yes but to be fair it could be most decades because as a club we have been more successful than you. Just look at the difference in Europe for example your best result was reaching the last 32. Whilst we have reached the semi finals as well as the quarter finals on two other occasion the list of teams we have defeated in Europe is also much more prestigious than yours where you lost the majority of your first round games.

This is the problem with a lot of people from Swansea they try to compare themselves to Cardiff even though their really is no comparison.


I’m not with you here.

I said we have had the most successful decade in Welsh football since colour TV was invented and thus the vast majority of people on this earth’s living memory.

If you would like to put forward a nomination for a better decade, I would happily take a look but I can’t see a scenario where you would have had a better one.

So in other words counting an era where football was barely professional and people were just getting over the Titanic disaster and World War 1 where battle still took place on horses... doesn’t really come into my thinking. :D

Re: Mcburnie is off

Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:09 pm

phildavies wrote:
JackSensealot wrote:
phildavies wrote:
Utter shite :lol:

I don’t remember you finishing second only missing out on a league title by goal difference or winning the most prestigious and oldest national cup competition in the world (as well as being runner up and winning the community shield). Your last decade comes nowhere close to Cardiff in the 1920’s.


The 1920’s :D

Fair play.


Yes but to be fair it could be most decades because as a club we have been more successful than you. Just look at the difference in Europe for example your best result was reaching the last 32. Whilst we have reached the semi finals as well as the quarter finals on two other occasion the list of teams we have defeated in Europe is also much more prestigious than yours where you lost the majority of your first round games.

This is the problem with a lot of people from Swansea they try to compare themselves to Cardiff even though their really is no comparison.


The two cities are totally un comparable these days, we must be 20 to 30 years ahead, in fact, it’s pointless comparing, Swansea is dying, it looks a dump and no business is interested whereas Cardiff is buzzing and 30,000 new houses being built to the west and the north. Even the liberty stadium is rusting away and will no doubt need sorting out soon......might aswell forget about them again....

Re: Mcburnie is off

Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:15 pm

goats wrote:[
The two cities are totally un comparable these days, we must be 20 to 30 years ahead, in fact, it’s pointless comparing, Swansea is dying, it looks a dump and no business is interested whereas Cardiff is buzzing and 30,000 new houses being built to the west and the north. Even the liberty stadium is rusting away and will no doubt need sorting out soon......might aswell forget about them again....


I wasn’t comparing the cities. Cardiff is a lovely place.

I just made the point that we have just had the most successful decade in Welsh club football since colour TV’s were invented and the majority of the people on this earth can count as living memory.

Whether the City your club plays in had a John Meyer or a Debenhams really isn’t my concern.
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Re: Mcburnie is off

Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:16 pm

JackSensealot wrote:
phildavies wrote:Yes but to be fair it could be most decades because as a club we have been more successful than you. Just look at the difference in Europe for example your best result was reaching the last 32. Whilst we have reached the semi finals as well as the quarter finals on two other occasion the list of teams we have defeated in Europe is also much more prestigious than yours where you lost the majority of your first round games.

This is the problem with a lot of people from Swansea they try to compare themselves to Cardiff even though their really is no comparison.


I’m not with you here.

I said we have had the most successful decade in Welsh football since colour TV was invented and thus the vast majority of people on this earth’s living memory.

If you would like to put forward a nomination for a better decade, I would happily take a look but I can’t see a scenario where you would have had a better one.

So in other words counting an era where football was barely professional and people were just getting over the Titanic disaster and World War 1 where battle still took place on horses... doesn’t really come into my thinking. :D


You clearly know very little about football if you only consider the modern game given how big football was back in the day don’t get blinded by just thinking about money as the be all and end all.

So you accept you are and always have been a much smaller football club than us then cheers for clearing that up. Your about par with Bristol city similar number of seasons in top flight (though again unlike you they actually were runners up one year). We have almost double the amount of seasons as you in the top flight and are closer to the likes QPR or Palarse.

As for your greatest modern decade I would argue our ace to in Europe during this he late 60 and early 70’s far outweigh your achievements during your “golden spell” of 7 years in the prem.