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Re: Tommy Robinson

Wed May 30, 2018 3:45 pm

Ms Kitty Blue wrote:
CaerphillyBluebird15 wrote:
MOZZER1 wrote:just noticed there's a planned protest march to free tommy planned for saturday 9'th June in London
think this could be the biggest protest march ever seen in the uk


Who's arranging the mini bus then :laughing6:


More like Reliant Robin!

Its robin reliant mate

Re: Tommy Robinson

Wed May 30, 2018 3:46 pm

Dave67 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Tommy Robinson, arrested by police for Free Speech & given 13 months prison, whilst masked ISIS recruiters with megaphones receive a private police escort.


How strange that the policeman should be wearing a poppy in the middle of May when Remembrance Sunday is in November.

Sorry for letting facts get in the way of blatant lies.

Fact: Tommy Robinson was arrested and jailed for attempting to highlight yet another Muslim Paedophile ring.
Fact: Islamists , who wish to destroy our society and replace it with the medieval lunacy of a Caliphate under Sharia law, receive a police escort.
You think this is all about point scoring online, the truth is our country indeed the entire Western World is under threat from Islam. I ask you one thing, as numbers increase Muslims will gain more political and societal influence, do you think this is a good thing.

Re: Tommy Robinson

Wed May 30, 2018 3:52 pm

Jock wrote:
Dave67 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Tommy Robinson, arrested by police for Free Speech & given 13 months prison, whilst masked ISIS recruiters with megaphones receive a private police escort.


How strange that the policeman should be wearing a poppy in the middle of May when Remembrance Sunday is in November.

Sorry for letting facts get in the way of blatant lies.

Fact: Tommy Robinson was arrested and jailed for attempting to highlight yet another Muslim Paedophile ring.
Fact: Islamists , who wish to destroy our society and replace it with the medieval lunacy of a Caliphate under Sharia law, receive a police escort.
You think this is all about point scoring online, the truth is our country indeed the entire Western World is under threat from Islam. I ask you one thing, as numbers increase Muslims will gain more political and societal influence, do you think this is a good thing.


Jock, I don't understand how some of these people are so blind pal :banghead: :banghead:
We are the thickies & racists though !? Couldn't make it up. :banghead:

Re: Tommy Robinson

Wed May 30, 2018 3:58 pm

Meanwhile in October 2014 an Identical march took place and another in August 2014.

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Re: Tommy Robinson

Wed May 30, 2018 4:27 pm

Dave67 wrote:Tommy Robinson is a small time crook and conman.

His talent is in pedalling easy answers to complicated questions.

He feeds on the prejudices and insecurities of those too stupid or too lazy to question what they are told, those who find it easier to parrot the headlines of the daily mail or the slogans of ukip than to inform themselves of the impartial facts.

This country will be a better place for 13 months.


Same old same old.

Rather than discuss the subject you throw insults at those who have a different view on the subject at hand as being stupid or lazy.

Re: Tommy Robinson

Wed May 30, 2018 4:28 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Tommy Robinson, arrested by police for Free Speech & given 13 months prison, whilst masked ISIS recruiters with megaphones receive a private police escort.


That picture is taken from police bringing an end to a protest. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews ... poppy.html

Police themselves clashed with the protestors. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews ... otest.html

Re: Tommy Robinson

Wed May 30, 2018 4:29 pm

BluebirdWhitchurch wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Tommy Robinson, arrested by police for Free Speech & given 13 months prison, whilst masked ISIS recruiters with megaphones receive a private police escort.


That picture is taken from police bringing an end to a protest. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews ... poppy.html

Police themselves clashed with the protestors. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews ... otest.html

Did they get jail ?

Re: Tommy Robinson

Wed May 30, 2018 4:32 pm

wez1927 wrote:
BluebirdWhitchurch wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Tommy Robinson, arrested by police for Free Speech & given 13 months prison, whilst masked ISIS recruiters with megaphones receive a private police escort.


That picture is taken from police bringing an end to a protest. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews ... poppy.html

Police themselves clashed with the protestors. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews ... otest.html

Did they get jail ?


Group was subsequently banned and since the ban at least 20 arrests have been made for membership.

Re: Tommy Robinson

Wed May 30, 2018 4:37 pm

CaerphillyBluebird15 wrote:
Jock wrote:
Dave67 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Tommy Robinson, arrested by police for Free Speech & given 13 months prison, whilst masked ISIS recruiters with megaphones receive a private police escort.


How strange that the policeman should be wearing a poppy in the middle of May when Remembrance Sunday is in November.

Sorry for letting facts get in the way of blatant lies.

Fact: Tommy Robinson was arrested and jailed for attempting to highlight yet another Muslim Paedophile ring.
Fact: Islamists , who wish to destroy our society and replace it with the medieval lunacy of a Caliphate under Sharia law, receive a police escort.
You think this is all about point scoring online, the truth is our country indeed the entire Western World is under threat from Islam. I ask you one thing, as numbers increase Muslims will gain more political and societal influence, do you think this is a good thing.


Jock, I don't understand how some of these people are so blind pal :banghead: :banghead:
We are the thickies & racists though !? Couldn't make it up. :banghead:

I must have missed his answer to the simple question I asked him.

Re: Tommy Robinson

Wed May 30, 2018 4:59 pm

BluebirdWhitchurch wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Tommy Robinson, arrested by police for Free Speech & given 13 months prison, whilst masked ISIS recruiters with megaphones receive a private police escort.


That picture is taken from police bringing an end to a protest. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews ... poppy.html

Police themselves clashed with the protestors. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews ... otest.html


Odd that there were ISIS recruiters there. ISIS only came into existence 3 years after that march in 2013.

Re: Tommy Robinson

Wed May 30, 2018 5:21 pm

Jock wrote:the truth is our country indeed the entire Western World is under threat from Islam. I ask you one thing, as numbers increase Muslims will gain more political and societal influence, do you think this is a good thing.


I suspect you would not recognise truth if you saw it

Islam is a religion, a doctrine, a set of beliefs and ideas. I do not feel threatened by beliefs and ideas.

I believe a broad range of beliefs and opinions is healthy.

I do not see demonizing a whole religion as you are doing as anything other than failing to learn the lessons of 1930s.

Many brave and good people gave their lives in World War II to rid Europe of views that you are forwarding. Let them not have died in vain.

Re: Tommy Robinson

Wed May 30, 2018 5:37 pm

Dave67 wrote:
Jock wrote:the truth is our country indeed the entire Western World is under threat from Islam. I ask you one thing, as numbers increase Muslims will gain more political and societal influence, do you think this is a good thing.


I suspect you would not recognise truth if you saw it

Islam is a religion, a doctrine, a set of beliefs and ideas. I do not feel threatened by beliefs and ideas.

I believe a broad range of beliefs and opinions is healthy.

I do not see demonizing a whole religion as you are doing as anything other than failing to learn the lessons of 1930s.

Many brave and good people gave their lives in World War II to rid Europe of views that you are forwarding. Let them not have died in vain.

You can trot out all the pseudo intellectual bollox you want, you clearly don’t understand anything about Islam, Wahhabism in particular. Islam’s intolerance prevents a wide range of beliefs being espoused. How open and free are Saudi or Iran.

Re: Tommy Robinson

Wed May 30, 2018 5:44 pm

Dave67 wrote:I suspect you would not recognise truth if you saw it

Re: Tommy Robinson

Wed May 30, 2018 6:02 pm

Dave67 wrote:
BluebirdWhitchurch wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Tommy Robinson, arrested by police for Free Speech & given 13 months prison, whilst masked ISIS recruiters with megaphones receive a private police escort.


That picture is taken from police bringing an end to a protest. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews ... poppy.html

Police themselves clashed with the protestors. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews ... otest.html


Odd that there were ISIS recruiters there. ISIS only came into existence 3 years after that march in 2013.


ISIS in it's current form has been around since 1999, in other guises since before then.

Re: Tommy Robinson

Wed May 30, 2018 6:04 pm

Dave67 wrote:
Jock wrote:the truth is our country indeed the entire Western World is under threat from Islam. I ask you one thing, as numbers increase Muslims will gain more political and societal influence, do you think this is a good thing.


I suspect you would not recognise truth if you saw it

Islam is a religion, a doctrine, a set of beliefs and ideas. I do not feel threatened by beliefs and ideas.

I believe a broad range of beliefs and opinions is healthy.

I do not see demonizing a whole religion as you are doing as anything other than failing to learn the lessons of 1930s.

Many brave and good people gave their lives in World War II to rid Europe of views that you are forwarding. Let them not have died in vain.


If in doubt trot out the old Nazi insults. Again you fail to discuss but merely seek to belittle those with a differing view, it's farcical you've done it on every one of your posts.

Re: Tommy Robinson

Wed May 30, 2018 6:14 pm

WelshPatriot wrote:ISIS in it's current form has been around since 1999, in other guises since before then.


It was just seems odd that they were recruiting for Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) three years before they had a presence in Syria and before the group was named ISIS.

Re: Tommy Robinson

Wed May 30, 2018 6:27 pm

Dave67 wrote:
WelshPatriot wrote:ISIS in it's current form has been around since 1999, in other guises since before then.


It was just seems odd that they were recruiting for Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) three years before they had a presence in Syria and before the group was named ISIS.

Isis were in Libya

Re: Tommy Robinson

Wed May 30, 2018 6:47 pm

ISIS were in Cosmeston in 2014. Having a barbeque near the children's play area. Vale Of Glamorgan near enough for you Dave67? Your just posting on here to create arguments just like another well known troll. If your views truly are your own, then you are naive with zero common sense and are precisely part of the problem.

http://www.penarthtimes.co.uk/news/1131 ... Cosmeston/

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Re: Tommy Robinson

Wed May 30, 2018 6:52 pm

GrangeEndStar wrote:ISIS were in Cosmeston in 2014. Having a barbeque near the children's play area. Vale Of Glamorgan near enough for you Dave67? Your just posting on here to create arguments just like another well known troll. If your views truly are your own, then you are naive with zero common sense and are precisely part of the problem.

http://www.penarthtimes.co.uk/news/1131 ... Cosmeston/

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Deluded these Islamic appeaser,soon be moaning if one if there family get shot by a terrorist

Re: Tommy Robinson

Wed May 30, 2018 7:00 pm

Dave67 wrote:
WelshPatriot wrote:ISIS in it's current form has been around since 1999, in other guises since before then.


It was just seems odd that they were recruiting for Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) three years before they had a presence in Syria and before the group was named ISIS.


Changed your point now? You said ISIS didn't exist until 2013 Now you've changed it too they did exist but under a different name.....what happened? Rushed to put someone down before getting your facts right?

By the way serious question do you go on other forums condemning supporters of Ali dawah and Abdul Lateef?

Re: Tommy Robinson

Wed May 30, 2018 7:00 pm

Dave67 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:But why should the restrictions be in place, when they are not for other non Muslim cases of similar nature?


It depends on whether you are after Justice or Revenge.

Justice will not be affected by the restrictions.

For Revenge take a look at Finsbury Park.


Finsbury Park was a revenge attack by one man.

If 4 Muslims hadn't wiped out around 30 people in 2 terror attacks a few weeks prior, and of course the 100 or so Muslim groomers in Rochdale had keep their dirty little cocks in their pants.

There would have been no Finsbury Park mosque attack.

Re: Tommy Robinson

Wed May 30, 2018 7:12 pm

dogfound wrote:
AHERNE wrote:In response to the 'Free Tommy Robinson his only crime telling the truth' picture doing the rounds.
That is actually quite far from the truth. Here's a more accurate list:
Assaulting an off duty police officer with actual bodily harm and intention to resist arrest (2004)
Threatening, abusive or insulting behaviour - this including throwing missiles, damage to property and anti-Welsh racist chants (2010)
Mortgage fraud - using a fake identity to attempt to defraud a bank of £160,000 (2012)
Money laundering (2012)
Possession of drugs with intent to supply (2012)
Travelling to the USA using someone else's passport - literally being an illegal immigrant (2013)
Breaching the terms of his prison license (2014)
Football banning order for inciting racial hatred (2016)
Contempt of court for attempting to film defendants (2017)
Pretty amazing when we know what he thinks about people who don't respect the laws of this country!
And now:
Contempt of court, again. This is the second time he has put a serious sexual abuse case under threat of mistrial, meaning the defendants could walk free, as a result of his attempts to disrupt it.
Have a think about who, and what, some of you are defending.



oh and...i read this baloney about mistrials because someone was attempting to report on the trial earlier...
how was he trying to disrupt the trial..?
genuinely shocked that even one person in the whole of the UK would actually BELIEVE that one..{ i did know that you would be on here saying it...but its an agenda thing with you not what you actually believe }

Look, by simply providing coverage on the trial to his millions of bigoted followers he is putting the trial in danger. As Nazir Afzal (lawyer prosecuting the Rochdale grooming gang) put it, TR's comments can be used by the accused to complain that it's not a fair trial as Far Right communications had prejudiced the jury's opinions. As a result, the Rochdale grooming gang were nearly freed.

Re: Tommy Robinson

Wed May 30, 2018 7:17 pm

NyeBluebird wrote:
dogfound wrote:
AHERNE wrote:In response to the 'Free Tommy Robinson his only crime telling the truth' picture doing the rounds.
That is actually quite far from the truth. Here's a more accurate list:
Assaulting an off duty police officer with actual bodily harm and intention to resist arrest (2004)
Threatening, abusive or insulting behaviour - this including throwing missiles, damage to property and anti-Welsh racist chants (2010)
Mortgage fraud - using a fake identity to attempt to defraud a bank of £160,000 (2012)
Money laundering (2012)
Possession of drugs with intent to supply (2012)
Travelling to the USA using someone else's passport - literally being an illegal immigrant (2013)
Breaching the terms of his prison license (2014)
Football banning order for inciting racial hatred (2016)
Contempt of court for attempting to film defendants (2017)
Pretty amazing when we know what he thinks about people who don't respect the laws of this country!
And now:
Contempt of court, again. This is the second time he has put a serious sexual abuse case under threat of mistrial, meaning the defendants could walk free, as a result of his attempts to disrupt it.
Have a think about who, and what, some of you are defending.



oh and...i read this baloney about mistrials because someone was attempting to report on the trial earlier...
how was he trying to disrupt the trial..?
genuinely shocked that even one person in the whole of the UK would actually BELIEVE that one..{ i did know that you would be on here saying it...but its an agenda thing with you not what you actually believe }

Look, by simply providing coverage on the trial to his millions of bigoted followers he is putting the trial in danger. As Nazir Afzal (lawyer prosecuting the Rochdale grooming gang) put it, TR's comments can be used by the accused to complain that it's not a fair trial as Far Right communications had prejudiced the jury's opinions. As a result, the Rochdale grooming gang were nearly freed.


Care to elaborate on your Rochdale claim.

By the way try not to do the predictable name calling I.e.Bigoted supporters in your reply

Re: Tommy Robinson

Wed May 30, 2018 7:17 pm

wez1927 wrote:
GrangeEndStar wrote:ISIS were in Cosmeston in 2014. Having a barbeque near the children's play area. Vale Of Glamorgan near enough for you Dave67? Your just posting on here to create arguments just like another well known troll. If your views truly are your own, then you are naive with zero common sense and are precisely part of the problem.

http://www.penarthtimes.co.uk/news/1131 ... Cosmeston/

imgID7791644.jpg.gallery.jpg
imgID7791647.jpg.gallery.jpg

imgID7791642.jpg

Deluded these Islamic appeaser,soon be moaning if one if there family get shot by a terrorist


Wez, even at their moderate end of the scale their cockroach breeding is taking away life opportunities for native Brits children and grandchildren. My grandfather fought and died in the war and I am horrified and sickened by the state of this country after so many fought to preserve it. They were the best generation and criminals like Tony Blair should be strung up for his pro-EU Kalergi immigration policy which has meant that native Brits are now a minority in many 'flipped' cities.

Re: Tommy Robinson

Wed May 30, 2018 7:48 pm

WelshPatriot wrote:
NyeBluebird wrote:
dogfound wrote:
AHERNE wrote:In response to the 'Free Tommy Robinson his only crime telling the truth' picture doing the rounds.
That is actually quite far from the truth. Here's a more accurate list:
Assaulting an off duty police officer with actual bodily harm and intention to resist arrest (2004)
Threatening, abusive or insulting behaviour - this including throwing missiles, damage to property and anti-Welsh racist chants (2010)
Mortgage fraud - using a fake identity to attempt to defraud a bank of £160,000 (2012)
Money laundering (2012)
Possession of drugs with intent to supply (2012)
Travelling to the USA using someone else's passport - literally being an illegal immigrant (2013)
Breaching the terms of his prison license (2014)
Football banning order for inciting racial hatred (2016)
Contempt of court for attempting to film defendants (2017)
Pretty amazing when we know what he thinks about people who don't respect the laws of this country!
And now:
Contempt of court, again. This is the second time he has put a serious sexual abuse case under threat of mistrial, meaning the defendants could walk free, as a result of his attempts to disrupt it.
Have a think about who, and what, some of you are defending.



oh and...i read this baloney about mistrials because someone was attempting to report on the trial earlier...
how was he trying to disrupt the trial..?
genuinely shocked that even one person in the whole of the UK would actually BELIEVE that one..{ i did know that you would be on here saying it...but its an agenda thing with you not what you actually believe }

Look, by simply providing coverage on the trial to his millions of bigoted followers he is putting the trial in danger. As Nazir Afzal (lawyer prosecuting the Rochdale grooming gang) put it, TR's comments can be used by the accused to complain that it's not a fair trial as Far Right communications had prejudiced the jury's opinions. As a result, the Rochdale grooming gang were nearly freed.


Care to elaborate on your Rochdale claim.

By the way try not to do the predictable name calling I.e.Bigoted supporters in your reply


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DeOrhCqWkAE5dL-.jpg

This is the guy who prosecuted the rochdale gang

Re: Tommy Robinson

Wed May 30, 2018 9:03 pm

Jesus i havent been on this site for a few days and still this post is going on :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Tommy Robinson

Wed May 30, 2018 9:08 pm

AHERNE wrote:Jesus i havent been on this site for a few days and still this post is going on :lol: :lol: :lol:


We could do with a non football part of the site.

Re: Tommy Robinson

Wed May 30, 2018 9:20 pm

Wayne S wrote:
AHERNE wrote:Jesus i havent been on this site for a few days and still this post is going on :lol: :lol: :lol:


We could do with a non football part of the site.


Yes a Right Wing bullshit part would be good. It would help me to avoid the dross!

Re: Tommy Robinson

Wed May 30, 2018 10:50 pm

murphy wrote:Finsbury Park was a revenge attack by one man.


The term is Lone Wolf

Re: Tommy Robinson

Wed May 30, 2018 10:55 pm

GrangeEndStar wrote:ISIS were in Cosmeston in 2014. Having a barbeque near the children's play area. Vale Of Glamorgan near enough for you Dave67?


The reason I called the last photo total ballocks was because it was being presented as a rally of ISIS recruiters receiving a Police escort while Tommy Robinson was being arrested.

I merely called it out as it was 8 years ago and before ISIS existed.

Well done on finding something that is only 4 years old.