Fri Jun 24, 2016 8:44 am
Bluebird For Life wrote:Well - some of you have the result you crave. I hope now you will be big enough to deal with the consequences of a decision that will come back to haunt you in years to come. There may be no initial changes, but how you could vote to remove workers rights at the top of the list is beyond me. The prime minister is already gone, now its time for the buffoon and his sinister cronies to take over; god help us now. The real agenda starts here and it won't be pretty.
Fri Jun 24, 2016 8:54 am
Fri Jun 24, 2016 8:55 am
Bluebird For Life wrote:Well - some of you have the result you crave. I hope now you will be big enough to deal with the consequences of a decision that will come back to haunt you in years to come. There may be no initial changes, but how you could vote to remove workers rights at the top of the list is beyond me. The prime minister is already gone, now its time for the buffoon and his sinister cronies to take over; god help us now. The real agenda starts here and it won't be pretty.
Fri Jun 24, 2016 8:57 am
Lengee wrote:Very sad day. Wales voted to be part of little England. Led by second rate right wing Tories.
Listened to NF saying we can't make any promises onNHS investment. What a surprise! The security of pensions and the triple lock won't be guaranteed, and the working classes will be worst hit. Talk about turkeys voting for Christmas. I hope that this is not disasterous for our kids and grandchildren
Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:00 am
Bluebird For Life wrote:What power do the unions have anymore mate?
Its the EU directives that we have signed up to that allows people to have leave when having kids, the minimum wage, paid overtime & holidays, working hours - do you honestly believe that big business isn't rubbing its hands at the prospect of getting rid of these in order to drive profits even higher for the few. As ever, it will be the poorest in society who suffer the most.
Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:25 am
bluebird-77 wrote:
If leave win. (Which they won't ) the bookies will have a big pay out.
Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:33 am
Bluebird For Life wrote:Well - some of you have the result you crave. I hope now you will be big enough to deal with the consequences of a decision that will come back to haunt you in years to come. There may be no initial changes, but how you could vote to remove workers rights at the top of the list is beyond me. The prime minister is already gone, now its time for the buffoon and his sinister cronies to take over; god help us now. The real agenda starts here and it won't be pretty.
Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:34 am
Tony Blue Williams wrote:bluebird-77 wrote:
If leave win. (Which they won't ) the bookies will have a big pay out.
Old BB-77 really knows his stuff
Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:35 am
pembroke allan wrote:Bluebird For Life wrote:What power do the unions have anymore mate?
Its the EU directives that we have signed up to that allows people to have leave when having kids, the minimum wage, paid overtime & holidays, working hours - do you honestly believe that big business isn't rubbing its hands at the prospect of getting rid of these in order to drive profits even higher for the few. As ever, it will be the poorest in society who suffer the most.
It was poorest in Wales who voted out who are suppose to benefit greatly from eu money! while richest areas voted in, what does that tell you???
Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:36 am
Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:38 am
markeMark wrote:Bluebird For Life wrote:Well - some of you have the result you crave. I hope now you will be big enough to deal with the consequences of a decision that will come back to haunt you in years to come. There may be no initial changes, but how you could vote to remove workers rights at the top of the list is beyond me. The prime minister is already gone, now its time for the buffoon and his sinister cronies to take over; god help us now. The real agenda starts here and it won't be pretty.
If any party tries to remove workers rights the simple remedy is you vote them out at the next election. The people we vote for will actually be able to govern us now, not unelected unknown people in another country.
Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:39 am
Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:39 am
markeMark wrote:Bluebird For Life wrote:Well - some of you have the result you crave. I hope now you will be big enough to deal with the consequences of a decision that will come back to haunt you in years to come. There may be no initial changes, but how you could vote to remove workers rights at the top of the list is beyond me. The prime minister is already gone, now its time for the buffoon and his sinister cronies to take over; god help us now. The real agenda starts here and it won't be pretty.
If any party tries to remove workers rights the simple remedy is you vote them out at the next election. The people we vote for will actually be able to govern us now, not unelected unknown people in another country.
Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:44 am
Bluebird For Life wrote:markeMark wrote:Bluebird For Life wrote:Well - some of you have the result you crave. I hope now you will be big enough to deal with the consequences of a decision that will come back to haunt you in years to come. There may be no initial changes, but how you could vote to remove workers rights at the top of the list is beyond me. The prime minister is already gone, now its time for the buffoon and his sinister cronies to take over; god help us now. The real agenda starts here and it won't be pretty.
If any party tries to remove workers rights the simple remedy is you vote them out at the next election. The people we vote for will actually be able to govern us now, not unelected unknown people in another country.
And by then the damage is done... Who are these unelected people, MEP's are subject to the same electoral process as those in the UK. Unfortunately, the British people took no interest until now. Nigel Farrage is an MEP ffs - and now amazingly enough he has already back tracked on the promise of £350 million per week for the NHS, didn't take long...
Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:58 am
powysblue wrote:Bluebird For Life wrote:Well - some of you have the result you crave. I hope now you will be big enough to deal with the consequences of a decision that will come back to haunt you in years to come. There may be no initial changes, but how you could vote to remove workers rights at the top of the list is beyond me. The prime minister is already gone, now its time for the buffoon and his sinister cronies to take over; god help us now. The real agenda starts here and it won't be pretty.
Gracious in a democratic defeat - the above says all you need to know about you
Fri Jun 24, 2016 10:01 am
markeMark wrote:Bluebird For Life wrote:markeMark wrote:Bluebird For Life wrote:Well - some of you have the result you crave. I hope now you will be big enough to deal with the consequences of a decision that will come back to haunt you in years to come. There may be no initial changes, but how you could vote to remove workers rights at the top of the list is beyond me. The prime minister is already gone, now its time for the buffoon and his sinister cronies to take over; god help us now. The real agenda starts here and it won't be pretty.
If any party tries to remove workers rights the simple remedy is you vote them out at the next election. The people we vote for will actually be able to govern us now, not unelected unknown people in another country.
And by then the damage is done... Who are these unelected people, MEP's are subject to the same electoral process as those in the UK. Unfortunately, the British people took no interest until now. Nigel Farrage is an MEP ffs - and now amazingly enough he has already back tracked on the promise of £350 million per week for the NHS, didn't take long...
The MEP's I vote for try their best to act on my behalf before being outvoted by MEP's I did'nt vote for and who live in countries I am not particularly bothered about. I can now hold the person I vote for to account, and if that person does'nt act in my best interest it won't be because of some person I have never heard of who lives in some other country.
Fri Jun 24, 2016 10:12 am
Bluebird For Life wrote:markeMark wrote:Bluebird For Life wrote:markeMark wrote:Bluebird For Life wrote:Well - some of you have the result you crave. I hope now you will be big enough to deal with the consequences of a decision that will come back to haunt you in years to come. There may be no initial changes, but how you could vote to remove workers rights at the top of the list is beyond me. The prime minister is already gone, now its time for the buffoon and his sinister cronies to take over; god help us now. The real agenda starts here and it won't be pretty.
If any party tries to remove workers rights the simple remedy is you vote them out at the next election. The people we vote for will actually be able to govern us now, not unelected unknown people in another country.
And by then the damage is done... Who are these unelected people, MEP's are subject to the same electoral process as those in the UK. Unfortunately, the British people took no interest until now. Nigel Farrage is an MEP ffs - and now amazingly enough he has already back tracked on the promise of £350 million per week for the NHS, didn't take long...
The MEP's I vote for try their best to act on my behalf before being outvoted by MEP's I did'nt vote for and who live in countries I am not particularly bothered about. I can now hold the person I vote for to account, and if that person does'nt act in my best interest it won't be because of some person I have never heard of who lives in some other country.
Those people who live in other countries you have no interest in might well have felt the same about the people you voted for, but have taken a broader view that inclusiveness is better than insularity.
Fri Jun 24, 2016 10:23 am
Forever Blue wrote:ninianboy wrote:Forever Blue wrote:" VOTE OUT "
Churchill - the man who sent the troops in to fight Welsh miners...................
Churchill, The man who feared No one including the Germans![]()
Fri Jun 24, 2016 10:43 am
Bluebird For Life wrote:markeMark wrote:Bluebird For Life wrote:Well - some of you have the result you crave. I hope now you will be big enough to deal with the consequences of a decision that will come back to haunt you in years to come. There may be no initial changes, but how you could vote to remove workers rights at the top of the list is beyond me. The prime minister is already gone, now its time for the buffoon and his sinister cronies to take over; god help us now. The real agenda starts here and it won't be pretty.
If any party tries to remove workers rights the simple remedy is you vote them out at the next election. The people we vote for will actually be able to govern us now, not unelected unknown people in another country.
And by then the damage is done... Who are these unelected people, MEP's are subject to the same electoral process as those in the UK. Unfortunately, the British people took no interest until now. Nigel Farrage is an MEP ffs - and now amazingly enough he has already back tracked on the promise of £350 million per week for the NHS, didn't take long...
Fri Jun 24, 2016 10:50 am
Blueboys1927 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:ninianboy wrote:Forever Blue wrote:" VOTE OUT "
Churchill - the man who sent the troops in to fight Welsh miners...................
Churchill, The man who feared No one including the Germans![]()
Churchill the greatest Britain to have lived, and who saved this great country from Nazi tyranny
Fri Jun 24, 2016 10:57 am
Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:15 am
Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:22 am
markeMark wrote:The biggest disappointment for me today was to see that 28% chose not to vote. Although I voted out, I will still wonder what the result would have been if at least 90% had voted. I am in the majority as far as actual voters were concerned, but I obviously don't know if I am in the majority as far as the population of the UK is concerned.
Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:34 am
bluebird-77 wrote:markeMark wrote:The biggest disappointment for me today was to see that 28% chose not to vote. Although I voted out, I will still wonder what the result would have been if at least 90% had voted. I am in the majority as far as actual voters were concerned, but I obviously don't know if I am in the majority as far as the population of the UK is concerned.
I agree with you totally here. But as a remain supporter I have more respect for the people who bothered to come out to vote. The vote was won fair and square by the people who were interested enough to vote. I/we can't use nearly 30% of the nation not voting as an excuse. I respect out democracy that we free to vote or not vote, we know it be a fair vote none of this silly mark you papers with pen (insulting to our country). And at the end of it the majority of votes want to leave so I'm not going to sulk and cry, but move on and be positive about our countries future.
Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:51 am
markeMark wrote:bluebird-77 wrote:markeMark wrote:The biggest disappointment for me today was to see that 28% chose not to vote. Although I voted out, I will still wonder what the result would have been if at least 90% had voted. I am in the majority as far as actual voters were concerned, but I obviously don't know if I am in the majority as far as the population of the UK is concerned.
I agree with you totally here. But as a remain supporter I have more respect for the people who bothered to come out to vote. The vote was won fair and square by the people who were interested enough to vote. I/we can't use nearly 30% of the nation not voting as an excuse. I respect out democracy that we free to vote or not vote, we know it be a fair vote none of this silly mark you papers with pen (insulting to our country). And at the end of it the majority of votes want to leave so I'm not going to sulk and cry, but move on and be positive about our countries future.
Does this mean when I get around to buying a new toaster I can get one without reduced power, and not have to worry about toasting my bread twice before it turns brown. Hopefully my vacuum cleaner can remain the same as well. Was a bit worried it would take me twice as long to clean my carpets while my next door neighbour takes her kids to school in her massive 4x4.
Fri Jun 24, 2016 12:04 pm
Fri Jun 24, 2016 12:34 pm
GrangeEndStar wrote:Great news. Other countries will now want a referendum and pull out. What's left will then collapse and then proper reformation can take place with Britain leading it. The comments this morning by Brussels bureaucrats insinuating that the UK will be punished for leaving and there has to be 'consequences' sum up what they are really about and how they go about their 'business'.
Fri Jun 24, 2016 12:35 pm
bluebird-77 wrote:markeMark wrote:bluebird-77 wrote:markeMark wrote:The biggest disappointment for me today was to see that 28% chose not to vote. Although I voted out, I will still wonder what the result would have been if at least 90% had voted. I am in the majority as far as actual voters were concerned, but I obviously don't know if I am in the majority as far as the population of the UK is concerned.
I agree with you totally here. But as a remain supporter I have more respect for the people who bothered to come out to vote. The vote was won fair and square by the people who were interested enough to vote. I/we can't use nearly 30% of the nation not voting as an excuse. I respect out democracy that we free to vote or not vote, we know it be a fair vote none of this silly mark you papers with pen (insulting to our country). And at the end of it the majority of votes want to leave so I'm not going to sulk and cry, but move on and be positive about our countries future.
Does this mean when I get around to buying a new toaster I can get one without reduced power, and not have to worry about toasting my bread twice before it turns brown. Hopefully my vacuum cleaner can remain the same as well. Was a bit worried it would take me twice as long to clean my carpets while my next door neighbour takes her kids to school in her massive 4x4.
Lol. I have no idea what the future holds.
I take you post as tongue in cheek as you come across as an intelligent well informed gentleman, and I don't believe you would have voted leave based on a toaster and vacuum cleaner. I'm sure you had reasons that are important to you and you votes in what you thought best for the country, along with the majority of workers yesterday.
Fri Jun 24, 2016 12:44 pm
markeMark wrote:bluebird-77 wrote:markeMark wrote:bluebird-77 wrote:markeMark wrote:The biggest disappointment for me today was to see that 28% chose not to vote. Although I voted out, I will still wonder what the result would have been if at least 90% had voted. I am in the majority as far as actual voters were concerned, but I obviously don't know if I am in the majority as far as the population of the UK is concerned.
I agree with you totally here. But as a remain supporter I have more respect for the people who bothered to come out to vote. The vote was won fair and square by the people who were interested enough to vote. I/we can't use nearly 30% of the nation not voting as an excuse. I respect out democracy that we free to vote or not vote, we know it be a fair vote none of this silly mark you papers with pen (insulting to our country). And at the end of it the majority of votes want to leave so I'm not going to sulk and cry, but move on and be positive about our countries future.
Does this mean when I get around to buying a new toaster I can get one without reduced power, and not have to worry about toasting my bread twice before it turns brown. Hopefully my vacuum cleaner can remain the same as well. Was a bit worried it would take me twice as long to clean my carpets while my next door neighbour takes her kids to school in her massive 4x4.
Lol. I have no idea what the future holds.
I take you post as tongue in cheek as you come across as an intelligent well informed gentleman, and I don't believe you would have voted leave based on a toaster and vacuum cleaner. I'm sure you had reasons that are important to you and you votes in what you thought best for the country, along with the majority of workers yesterday.
I based my decision on my own studies, and ignored the newspapers as much as possible. Only time will tell if I made the right decision. There were pro's and con's on both sides of the debate. Whatever happens, no-one knows what the future holds whether we remained or left. I am a homeowner and have shares in a bank, so I am probably supposed to vote remain. However, I voted leave because I believed that would be best for my grandchildren when they are older. We may be in for a bumpy ride, but let's see where we are a couple of years down the road. My local town has not exactly prospered in recent times. We have a new Lido courtesy of Lottery funding, a nice park, a couple of decent chippies but not much else. Can't see what being a member did for us.
Fri Jun 24, 2016 1:13 pm