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Re: ' 2-1 WALES RESULT ' " WALES V CYPRUS " MATCH THREAD

Mon Oct 13, 2014 9:51 pm

smakerzthebluebird wrote:
Gunter MOTM for me but you can't defend that tackle it was horrendous, it was in the opposition half and absolutely no need for it as they were going virtually nowhere

Can't defend king for that at all under the refs nose as well left him no option at all


Where have I tried to defend it? Poor tackle, but no worse than two other challenges that were earlier in the game and only got a yellow card.

On the precedence set, I don't think it was a straight red.

Re: ' 2-1 WALES RESULT ' " WALES V CYPRUS " MATCH THREAD

Mon Oct 13, 2014 9:56 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
smakerzthebluebird wrote:
Gunter MOTM for me but you can't defend that tackle it was horrendous, it was in the opposition half and absolutely no need for it as they were going virtually nowhere

Can't defend king for that at all under the refs nose as well left him no option at all


Where have I tried to defend it? Poor tackle, but no worse than two other challenges that were earlier in the game and only got a yellow card.

On the precedence set, I don't think it was a straight red.


You get so tetchy just saying it's a straight red all day and yes there were some poor challenges but that was by far the worse in the game not even close to the ball potential ankle breaker

Re: ' 2-1 WALES RESULT ' " WALES V CYPRUS " MATCH THREAD

Mon Oct 13, 2014 9:57 pm

smakerzthebluebird wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:Although I imagine later down the line when it could come to GD, I think the main thing is to get the points on the board.

7 in 9 is fantastic. With no Ramsey and Allen.. 2 players who play for top 4 clubs missing and the heart of our midfield just shows we can still have people in and do the dirty work.

I set a target that we should get 12 points or more.. no ifs or buts and we are looking on course for that early on.

If you seen some of the results like Spain losing 2-1, Iceland beating Holland 2-0, Belarus beat Portugal 1-0 didn't they too? Just shows how the lesser countries which we are considered as are moving up and can get results.

I hope we do qualify but honestly deep down think we will fall short so trying to enjoy the moment currently.. would like to know what Coleman said at half time because we went to 10 men in 2 minutes of the start of the second.


You can't blame Coleman for an idiotic challenge in an opponents half when there was no need under the refs nose it was poor decision making from king and he is very fortunate that didn't cost us hope he apologised to the team for digging his arse out of a hole there!!


Yes you can because the first 2 minutes of the second half I think you should be calm and composed, could imagine he sent us to go out all guns blazzing and try get a few more goals.

Re: ' 2-1 WALES RESULT ' " WALES V CYPRUS " MATCH THREAD

Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:00 pm

DandoCCFC wrote:
smakerzthebluebird wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:Although I imagine later down the line when it could come to GD, I think the main thing is to get the points on the board.

7 in 9 is fantastic. With no Ramsey and Allen.. 2 players who play for top 4 clubs missing and the heart of our midfield just shows we can still have people in and do the dirty work.

I set a target that we should get 12 points or more.. no ifs or buts and we are looking on course for that early on.

If you seen some of the results like Spain losing 2-1, Iceland beating Holland 2-0, Belarus beat Portugal 1-0 didn't they too? Just shows how the lesser countries which we are considered as are moving up and can get results.

I hope we do qualify but honestly deep down think we will fall short so trying to enjoy the moment currently.. would like to know what Coleman said at half time because we went to 10 men in 2 minutes of the start of the second.


You can't blame Coleman for an idiotic challenge in an opponents half when there was no need under the refs nose it was poor decision making from king and he is very fortunate that didn't cost us hope he apologised to the team for digging his arse out of a hole there!!


Yes you can because the first 2 minutes of the second half I think you should be calm and composed, could imagine he sent us to go out all guns blazzing and try get a few more goals.


So a manager asking his players to take the game to the opposition in the second half warrants a possible ankle breaking challenge it's a poor decision from a player when there was no need for it

Re: ' 2-1 WALES RESULT ' " WALES V CYPRUS " MATCH THREAD

Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:05 pm

smakerzthebluebird wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:
smakerzthebluebird wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:Although I imagine later down the line when it could come to GD, I think the main thing is to get the points on the board.

7 in 9 is fantastic. With no Ramsey and Allen.. 2 players who play for top 4 clubs missing and the heart of our midfield just shows we can still have people in and do the dirty work.

I set a target that we should get 12 points or more.. no ifs or buts and we are looking on course for that early on.

If you seen some of the results like Spain losing 2-1, Iceland beating Holland 2-0, Belarus beat Portugal 1-0 didn't they too? Just shows how the lesser countries which we are considered as are moving up and can get results.

I hope we do qualify but honestly deep down think we will fall short so trying to enjoy the moment currently.. would like to know what Coleman said at half time because we went to 10 men in 2 minutes of the start of the second.


You can't blame Coleman for an idiotic challenge in an opponents half when there was no need under the refs nose it was poor decision making from king and he is very fortunate that didn't cost us hope he apologised to the team for digging his arse out of a hole there!!


Yes you can because the first 2 minutes of the second half I think you should be calm and composed, could imagine he sent us to go out all guns blazzing and try get a few more goals.


So a manager asking his players to take the game to the opposition in the second half warrants a possible ankle breaking challenge it's a poor decision from a player when there was no need for it



and cant say there was other tackles as bad? its the one that got red is the point? tv shows he went for players ankle right in front of ref! if it was other way round we would be agreeing it deserved red card. :thumbup:

Re: ' 2-1 WALES RESULT ' " WALES V CYPRUS " MATCH THREAD

Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:09 pm

You can't blame Coleman for the sending off unless he specifically said to the players to take some retribution, which I'm 99% sure no manager would do.

King made an out-of-character, mistimed, studs-up challenge. Off.

Next thing someone will say it was Bale's fault for instilling passion on the field. It's just an excuse to look for negativity towards the manager. He set up tonight correctly imo and coped well with the sending off. I'm no fan of Coleman, but credit where it is due please!!

Re: ' 2-1 WALES RESULT ' " WALES V CYPRUS " MATCH THREAD

Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:10 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
smakerzthebluebird wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:
smakerzthebluebird wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:Although I imagine later down the line when it could come to GD, I think the main thing is to get the points on the board.

7 in 9 is fantastic. With no Ramsey and Allen.. 2 players who play for top 4 clubs missing and the heart of our midfield just shows we can still have people in and do the dirty work.

I set a target that we should get 12 points or more.. no ifs or buts and we are looking on course for that early on.

If you seen some of the results like Spain losing 2-1, Iceland beating Holland 2-0, Belarus beat Portugal 1-0 didn't they too? Just shows how the lesser countries which we are considered as are moving up and can get results.

I hope we do qualify but honestly deep down think we will fall short so trying to enjoy the moment currently.. would like to know what Coleman said at half time because we went to 10 men in 2 minutes of the start of the second.


You can't blame Coleman for an idiotic challenge in an opponents half when there was no need under the refs nose it was poor decision making from king and he is very fortunate that didn't cost us hope he apologised to the team for digging his arse out of a hole there!!


Yes you can because the first 2 minutes of the second half I think you should be calm and composed, could imagine he sent us to go out all guns blazzing and try get a few more goals.


So a manager asking his players to take the game to the opposition in the second half warrants a possible ankle breaking challenge it's a poor decision from a player when there was no need for it



and cant say there was other tackles as bad? its the one that got red is the point? tv shows he went for players ankle right in front of ref! if it was other way round we would be agreeing it deserved red card. :thumbup:


Was chuckles that said there were other bad challenges I agreed but none that so blatantly deserved a red card it was a horrific challenge absolutely no attempt to play the ball and thoroughly deserved the red card shown, I'm welsh as are both of you but I cannot defend that challenge it was terrible

Re: ' 2-1 WALES RESULT ' " WALES V CYPRUS " MATCH THREAD

Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:12 pm

Woodville Willie wrote:You can't blame Coleman for the sending off unless he specifically said to the players to take some retribution, which I'm 99% sure no manager would do.

King made an out-of-character, mistimed, studs-up challenge. Off.

Next thing someone will say it was Bale's fault for instilling passion on the field. It's just an excuse to look for negativity towards the manager. He set up tonight correctly imo and coped well with the sending off. I'm no fan of Coleman, but credit where it is due please!!


Exactly John it was a horrific challenge and by far the worse in the game, there were a lot of bad challenges but that one was bad

And I don't like Coleman but I agree with you lots with an agenda on here against him, how anyone can say he made king make that challenge is beggars belief and damn right idiocy

Re: ' 2-1 WALES RESULT ' " WALES V CYPRUS " MATCH THREAD

Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:25 pm

wales won.yr top of yr group.you have a great team spirit.coleman must hve done something right.the players are busting a gut for him.enjoy it and untill he does something crazy and detrimental try to forget he is from down the road

Re: ' 2-1 WALES RESULT ' " WALES V CYPRUS " MATCH THREAD

Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:32 pm

smakerzthebluebird wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
smakerzthebluebird wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:
smakerzthebluebird wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:Although I imagine later down the line when it could come to GD, I think the main thing is to get the points on the board.

7 in 9 is fantastic. With no Ramsey and Allen.. 2 players who play for top 4 clubs missing and the heart of our midfield just shows we can still have people in and do the dirty work.

I set a target that we should get 12 points or more.. no ifs or buts and we are looking on course for that early on.

If you seen some of the results like Spain losing 2-1, Iceland beating Holland 2-0, Belarus beat Portugal 1-0 didn't they too? Just shows how the lesser countries which we are considered as are moving up and can get results.

I hope we do qualify but honestly deep down think we will fall short so trying to enjoy the moment currently.. would like to know what Coleman said at half time because we went to 10 men in 2 minutes of the start of the second.


You can't blame Coleman for an idiotic challenge in an opponents half when there was no need under the refs nose it was poor decision making from king and he is very fortunate that didn't cost us hope he apologised to the team for digging his arse out of a hole there!!


Yes you can because the first 2 minutes of the second half I think you should be calm and composed, could imagine he sent us to go out all guns blazzing and try get a few more goals.


So a manager asking his players to take the game to the opposition in the second half warrants a possible ankle breaking challenge it's a poor decision from a player when there was no need for it



and cant say there was other tackles as bad? its the one that got red is the point? tv shows he went for players ankle right in front of ref! if it was other way round we would be agreeing it deserved red card. :thumbup:


Was chuckles that said there were other bad challenges I agreed but none that so blatantly deserved a red card it was a horrific challenge absolutely no attempt to play the ball and thoroughly deserved the red card shown, I'm welsh as are both of you but I cannot defend that challenge it was terrible


yes it was bad and was no need to be made! like said we would complain if other way round, tbh as i say in my thread not sure how much was due to colemans tactics or bales determination? not fan of colemans but honestly not sure if he is tactically astute enough when it comes to the crunch! i believe its bales drive that inspires others to raise game not coleman! :o

Re: ' 2-1 WALES RESULT ' " WALES V CYPRUS " MATCH THREAD

Mon Oct 13, 2014 11:28 pm

smakerzthebluebird wrote:
Woodville Willie wrote:You can't blame Coleman for the sending off unless he specifically said to the players to take some retribution, which I'm 99% sure no manager would do.

King made an out-of-character, mistimed, studs-up challenge. Off.

Next thing someone will say it was Bale's fault for instilling passion on the field. It's just an excuse to look for negativity towards the manager. He set up tonight correctly imo and coped well with the sending off. I'm no fan of Coleman, but credit where it is due please!!


Exactly John it was a horrific challenge and by far the worse in the game, there were a lot of bad challenges but that one was bad

And I don't like Coleman but I agree with you lots with an agenda on here against him, how anyone can say he made king make that challenge is beggars belief and damn right idiocy


:thumbup:

I'm one proud Welshman after that show of grit and determination. Cymru am byth!

Re: ' 2-1 WALES LATEST ' " WALES V CYPRUS " MATCH THREAD

Tue Oct 14, 2014 1:13 am

Bluebina wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Cyprus pull the score back to 2-1 thanks to a Laban free kick


another cock up by us!! no defender on line goalie in a flap!! :?



Hennessy is a liability, I don't trust him at all.....

I bet you trusted him on Friday night, though..

Re: ' 2-1 WALES LATEST ' " WALES V CYPRUS " MATCH THREAD

Tue Oct 14, 2014 1:14 am

Forever Blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Cyprus pull the score back to 2-1 thanks to a Laban free kick


another cock up by us!! no defender on line goalie in a flap!! :?


Terrible


takes me back to yesteyear all those mistakes in important games that cost us qualifications so many times :old:


Allan, I still feel Coleman is not the answer.

Er, top of the group.. :?

I think you'll find he is the answer :thumbright:

Re: ' 2-1 WALES LATEST ' " WALES V CYPRUS " MATCH THREAD

Tue Oct 14, 2014 1:18 am

Forever Blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Wales down to 10 men against Cyprus but 2-1 up. Can we hold on?


doubt it as we are staying to deep its encouraging them onto us , they are not that good really but see them getting at least 1 more goal :?


Allan, Cyprus are crap, we should not even be worrying about them.

They're clearly not crap, they beat Bosnia away from home! They're not a great side, but they're like all these sides from Eastern Europe. They're cynical, but they get a good result now and again.

Re: ' 2-1 WALES LATEST ' " WALES V CYPRUS " MATCH THREAD

Tue Oct 14, 2014 1:20 am

Military Junta wrote:f*cking hell they are making hard work of this. It's Cyprus FFS!!!!

We were down to ten men you absolute Neanderthal..

Re: ' 2-1 WALES RESULT ' " WALES V CYPRUS " MATCH THREAD

Tue Oct 14, 2014 1:23 am

smakerzthebluebird wrote:Gunter would have been my MOTM thought he was outstanding from start to finish

Excellent defensively and bombed forward at every opportunity linking up with whoever was on his side

Chester also had another very good game

Chester is a quality little player. Chuffed that he qualifies for us! :ayatollah:

Re: ' 2-1 WALES RESULT ' " WALES V CYPRUS " MATCH THREAD

Tue Oct 14, 2014 1:24 am

Leytonstoneblue wrote:Excellent 3 points, well done Wales and Chris Coleman, down to 10 men for the entire second half and they still didn't really trouble us, brilliant-just booked my Eurostar tickets for a long weekend-cant wait :thumbup:

The only clear-cut chance they had was that header that went just over with about 7 minutes to go. Apart from that, it was pretty comfortable.

Re: ' 2-1 WALES RESULT ' " WALES V CYPRUS " MATCH THREAD

Tue Oct 14, 2014 1:26 am

DandoCCFC wrote:Although I imagine later down the line when it could come to GD, I think the main thing is to get the points on the board.

7 in 9 is fantastic. With no Ramsey and Allen.. 2 players who play for top 4 clubs missing and the heart of our midfield just shows we can still have people in and do the dirty work.

I set a target that we should get 12 points or more.. no ifs or buts and we are looking on course for that early on.

If you seen some of the results like Spain losing 2-1, Iceland beating Holland 2-0, Belarus beat Portugal 1-0 didn't they too? Just shows how the lesser countries which we are considered as are moving up and can get results.

I hope we do qualify but honestly deep down think we will fall short so trying to enjoy the moment currently.. would like to know what Coleman said at half time because we went to 10 men in 2 minutes of the start of the second.

You think Coleman can be held responsible for King getting himself sent off?! :shock:

Re: ' 2-1 WALES RESULT ' " WALES V CYPRUS " MATCH THREAD

Tue Oct 14, 2014 1:29 am

DandoCCFC wrote:
smakerzthebluebird wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:Although I imagine later down the line when it could come to GD, I think the main thing is to get the points on the board.

7 in 9 is fantastic. With no Ramsey and Allen.. 2 players who play for top 4 clubs missing and the heart of our midfield just shows we can still have people in and do the dirty work.

I set a target that we should get 12 points or more.. no ifs or buts and we are looking on course for that early on.

If you seen some of the results like Spain losing 2-1, Iceland beating Holland 2-0, Belarus beat Portugal 1-0 didn't they too? Just shows how the lesser countries which we are considered as are moving up and can get results.

I hope we do qualify but honestly deep down think we will fall short so trying to enjoy the moment currently.. would like to know what Coleman said at half time because we went to 10 men in 2 minutes of the start of the second.


You can't blame Coleman for an idiotic challenge in an opponents half when there was no need under the refs nose it was poor decision making from king and he is very fortunate that didn't cost us hope he apologised to the team for digging his arse out of a hole there!!


Yes you can because the first 2 minutes of the second half I think you should be calm and composed, could imagine he sent us to go out all guns blazzing and try get a few more goals.

So you think Coleman told them not to try and score another goal or two to make sure of the win? :?

Re: ' 2-1 WALES RESULT ' " WALES V CYPRUS " MATCH THREAD

Tue Oct 14, 2014 1:38 am

pembroke allan wrote:
smakerzthebluebird wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
smakerzthebluebird wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:
smakerzthebluebird wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:Although I imagine later down the line when it could come to GD, I think the main thing is to get the points on the board.

7 in 9 is fantastic. With no Ramsey and Allen.. 2 players who play for top 4 clubs missing and the heart of our midfield just shows we can still have people in and do the dirty work.

I set a target that we should get 12 points or more.. no ifs or buts and we are looking on course for that early on.

If you seen some of the results like Spain losing 2-1, Iceland beating Holland 2-0, Belarus beat Portugal 1-0 didn't they too? Just shows how the lesser countries which we are considered as are moving up and can get results.

I hope we do qualify but honestly deep down think we will fall short so trying to enjoy the moment currently.. would like to know what Coleman said at half time because we went to 10 men in 2 minutes of the start of the second.


You can't blame Coleman for an idiotic challenge in an opponents half when there was no need under the refs nose it was poor decision making from king and he is very fortunate that didn't cost us hope he apologised to the team for digging his arse out of a hole there!!


Yes you can because the first 2 minutes of the second half I think you should be calm and composed, could imagine he sent us to go out all guns blazzing and try get a few more goals.


So a manager asking his players to take the game to the opposition in the second half warrants a possible ankle breaking challenge it's a poor decision from a player when there was no need for it



and cant say there was other tackles as bad? its the one that got red is the point? tv shows he went for players ankle right in front of ref! if it was other way round we would be agreeing it deserved red card. :thumbup:


Was chuckles that said there were other bad challenges I agreed but none that so blatantly deserved a red card it was a horrific challenge absolutely no attempt to play the ball and thoroughly deserved the red card shown, I'm welsh as are both of you but I cannot defend that challenge it was terrible


yes it was bad and was no need to be made! like said we would complain if other way round, tbh as i say in my thread not sure how much was due to colemans tactics or bales determination? not fan of colemans but honestly not sure if he is tactically astute enough when it comes to the crunch! i believe its bales drive that inspires others to raise game not coleman! :o

Well after King was sent off, Coleman replaced George Williams (who was running around aimlessly up front on his own) with David Edwards (a direct replacement for King), and pushed Bale up front on his own, where Williams was. Given that Bale has more legs than George Williams and has more pace, he was able to pounce more quickly on any mistakes made by Cyprus, and apply pressure quicker on the opposition players, notably the goalkeeper, whom Bale forced into rushed clearances that often resulted in throw-ins. I thought that was a pretty good change myself, and at a 'crunch' moment!

Bale's influence on the team is undoubted - of course it is, he's the world's most expensive player and plays for arguably the world's biggest club! But the great team spirit is also due in part to the manager, so Coleman deserves credit.

Re: ' 2-1 WALES RESULT ' " WALES V CYPRUS " MATCH THREAD

Tue Oct 14, 2014 4:13 pm

Enjoyed that :thumbright: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=149282 :thumbright: :thumbright: :ayatollah:

Re: ' 2-1 WALES RESULT ' " WALES V CYPRUS " MATCH THREAD

Tue Oct 14, 2014 4:37 pm

Cwmann_Bluebird wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
smakerzthebluebird wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
smakerzthebluebird wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:
smakerzthebluebird wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:Although I imagine later down the line when it could come to GD, I think the main thing is to get the points on the board.

7 in 9 is fantastic. With no Ramsey and Allen.. 2 players who play for top 4 clubs missing and the heart of our midfield just shows we can still have people in and do the dirty work.

I set a target that we should get 12 points or more.. no ifs or buts and we are looking on course for that early on.

If you seen some of the results like Spain losing 2-1, Iceland beating Holland 2-0, Belarus beat Portugal 1-0 didn't they too? Just shows how the lesser countries which we are considered as are moving up and can get results.

I hope we do qualify but honestly deep down think we will fall short so trying to enjoy the moment currently.. would like to know what Coleman said at half time because we went to 10 men in 2 minutes of the start of the second.


You can't blame Coleman for an idiotic challenge in an opponents half when there was no need under the refs nose it was poor decision making from king and he is very fortunate that didn't cost us hope he apologised to the team for digging his arse out of a hole there!!


Yes you can because the first 2 minutes of the second half I think you should be calm and composed, could imagine he sent us to go out all guns blazzing and try get a few more goals.


So a manager asking his players to take the game to the opposition in the second half warrants a possible ankle breaking challenge it's a poor decision from a player when there was no need for it



and cant say there was other tackles as bad? its the one that got red is the point? tv shows he went for players ankle right in front of ref! if it was other way round we would be agreeing it deserved red card. :thumbup:


Was chuckles that said there were other bad challenges I agreed but none that so blatantly deserved a red card it was a horrific challenge absolutely no attempt to play the ball and thoroughly deserved the red card shown, I'm welsh as are both of you but I cannot defend that challenge it was terrible


yes it was bad and was no need to be made! like said we would complain if other way round, tbh as i say in my thread not sure how much was due to colemans tactics or bales determination? not fan of colemans but honestly not sure if he is tactically astute enough when it comes to the crunch! i believe its bales drive that inspires others to raise game not coleman! :o

Well after King was sent off, Coleman replaced George Williams (who was running around aimlessly up front on his own) with David Edwards (a direct replacement for King), and pushed Bale up front on his own, where Williams was. Given that Bale has more legs than George Williams and has more pace, he was able to pounce more quickly on any mistakes made by Cyprus, and apply pressure quicker on the opposition players, notably the goalkeeper, whom Bale forced into rushed clearances that often resulted in throw-ins. I thought that was a pretty good change myself, and at a 'crunch' moment!

Bale's influence on the team is undoubted - of course it is, he's the world's most expensive player and plays for arguably the world's biggest club! But the great team spirit is also due in part to the manager, so Coleman deserves credit.


As said he was forced into changes! & change made regarding bale up front was being called for here with friends in the house! So hardly rocket science to what was needed. :D :o