UPDATED ' NEW BLUE CITY SHIRTS ' PHOTOS

just when you thought it couldn't get more stupid. Yes, a good idea to tap in direct competition with the club selling shirts, and advertise them on here. Good luck with Roathies moron reasoning if anyone throw the book on them.
How can anyone patent an apple right?

Of course it is a good idea - its kind of the whole point.

So you seem to have changed your issue from a copyright issue to selling shirts in competition with the club? Which one is it brains?

I could make a shirt with the word apple on it and there is nothing anybody could do about it. If it accompanied the apple logo however - then it is a different matter.

If you are going to talk rubbish then at least make it consistent

just when you thought it couldn't get more stupid. Yes, a good idea to tap in direct competition with the club selling shirts, and advertise them on here. Good luck with Roathies moron reasoning if anyone throw the book on them.
How can anyone patent an apple right?

Of course it is a good idea - its kind of the whole point.

So you seem to have changed your issue from a copyright issue to selling shirts in competition with the club? Which one is it brains?

I could make a shirt with the word apple on it and there is nothing anybody could do about it. If it accompanied the apple logo however - then it is a different matter.

If you are going to talk rubbish then at least make it consistent

My god what silly child. Guess you shouldn't have skipped legal class in uni, I didn't. Already spent a fine morning with my kid, and now its adult time. Put you and chuckles together and you have an episode of South Park

Typical aamb idiot

instead of combatting what you are attempting to discredit, you just use playground insults and make a hasty exit..... By all means use playground insults if you wish..... but at least accompany it with something of use.

Are you seriously telling me i cannot make a shirt with the name apple on it? Nobody is ever allowed to use the word cardiff again? Nobody is allowed to ever use an image of a swift? Etc etc

You should ask the club to represent them, surely you will make a fortune from this lot, Im sure microsoft will be interested too, think of all the hungry caterpillar books with a half eaten apple image you can sue

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This is what we are talking about numbnut
Even the iPhone bluebird cover might be an issue. But they are not in direct competition with club merchant. This one is.

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This is what we are talking about numbnut
Even the iPhone bluebird cover might be an issue. But they are not in direct competition with club merchant. This one is.

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And we are back to square one.would have helped if you decided to give a constructive reply rather your waffle. Lets try again....

The image isnt copyrighted by the club, neither is the colour blue, and neither are the concept of t-shirts.

So again, what is copyrighted for them to have a legal case?

The only legal case i can see is the visit wales logo (if copyrighted), but dont see why they would have an issue as it isnt a saleable product but a company intended for advertisement and promotion. Its free sponsorship essentially.

This is what we are talking about numbnut
Even the iPhone bluebird cover might be an issue. But they are not in direct competition with club merchant. This one is.

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And we are back to square one.would have helped if you decided to give a constructive reply rather your waffle. Lets try again....

The image isnt copyrighted by the club, neither is the colour blue, and neither are the concept of t-shirts.

So again, what is copyrighted for them to have a legal case?

The only legal case i can see is the visit wales logo if copyrighted, but dont see why they would have an issue as it isnt a saleable product but a company intended to for advertisement and promotion.

Then I suggest you invest in them and make a few bucks. After all the market for blue shirt is bigger than red right!?
Best of luck, and I know for a fact you wouldn't dear invest even 10£ after all, it's not a Cardiff City shirt, right

So still no constructive reply? The words dont say Cardiff City FC, it says Cardiff City Bluebirds.

It is not a copyright issue, simple as that.

i have no interest in investing as they have already been manufactured and also have no idea what the margins are or if they will even sell much. That isnt the discussion, the discussion is if they are legal. Banana flavoured dog coats are legal... But wont be investing on those grounds alone.

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This is what we are talking about numbnut
Even the iPhone bluebird cover might be an issue. But they are not in direct competition with club merchant. This one is.

image.jpg

And we are back to square one.would have helped if you decided to give a constructive reply rather your waffle. Lets try again....

The image isnt copyrighted by the club, neither is the colour blue, and neither are the concept of t-shirts.

So again, what is copyrighted for them to have a legal case?

The only legal case i can see is the visit wales logo (if copyrighted), but dont see why they would have an issue as it isnt a saleable product but a company intended for advertisement and promotion. Its free sponsorship essentially.

to be fair is as much about the competition and the likeness to any other brand within a similar competing market. I do believe the club have every right to pursue this if they wish. However if they did it may result in bad publicity but more so one hefty legal bill from whoever profits from this

to be fair is as much about the competition and the likeness to any other brand within a similar competing market. I do believe the club have every right to pursue this if they wish. However if they did it may result in bad publicity but more so one hefty legal bill from whoever profits from this

Of course they can peruse it, but it would be an expensive and fruitless exercise. Unless they are using a registered trademark belonging to the club then im afraid its tough titties. The shirts dont even look at all similar.

Good on the guys who made them

So still no constructive reply? The words dont say Cardiff City FC, it says Cardiff City Bluebirds.

It is not a copyright issue, simple as that.

i have no interest in investing as they have already been manufactured and also have no idea what the margins are.

Then we have a difference in opinion. My original post advised to make sure there is no legal issues before selling them and advertising them on here. You say go for it. If you don't see this as tapping into the club merchant, you don't. But without a clearance from the club it might be a costly one. If you want to spend your day splitting hairs to try win another argument, go right ahead. But you wouldn't dear invest 10£, and you know exactly why..

to be fair is as much about the competition and the likeness to any other brand within a similar competing market. I do believe the club have every right to pursue this if they wish. However if they did it may result in bad publicity but more so one hefty legal bill from whoever profits from this

Of course they can peruse it, but it would be an expensive and fruitless exercise. Unless they are using a registered trademark belonging to the club then im afraid its tough titties. The shirts dont even look at all similar.

Good on the guys who made them

didn't r have to be a registered trademark, I believe it can be anything in its likeness

to be fair is as much about the competition and the likeness to any other brand within a similar competing market. I do believe the club have every right to pursue this if they wish. However if they did it may result in bad publicity but more so one hefty legal bill from whoever profits from this

Of course they can peruse it, but it would be an expensive and fruitless exercise. Unless they are using a registered trademark belonging to the club then im afraid its tough titties. The shirts dont even look at all similar.

Good on the guys who made them

didn't r have to be a registered trademark, I believe it can be anything in its likeness

They look nothing alike.

Should have said likeness, competition and sector.

So still no constructive reply? The words dont say Cardiff City FC, it says Cardiff City Bluebirds.

It is not a copyright issue, simple as that.

i have no interest in investing as they have already been manufactured and also have no idea what the margins are.

Then we have a difference in opinion. My original post advised to make sure there is no legal issues before selling them and advertising them on here.

hmmm not quite. You made it pretty clear there WAS legal issues yet couldnt back that up at all.

You say go for it. If you don't see this as tapping into the club merchant, you don't. But without a clearance from the club it might be a costly one.

of course it is. As is the club tapping into the customers of this shirt. As is a new brand of coffee tapping into nescafes customers. Unless there is clear evidence of ripping the clubs ideas or trademarks off then there is no case.

This shirt displays none of the above.

If you want to spend your day splitting hairs to try win another argument, go right ahead. But you wouldn't dear invest 10£, and you know exactly why..

splitting hairs? this isnt splitting hairs pal, you are saying its illegal and im telling you it is not - thats a major talking point not splitting hairs

I wouldnt invest in it for the reasons stated. The official cardiff jersey is legal and i havent invested in that either

I suggest next time if you dont wish to be called out then dont be such a knob in your replies when it ends up you dont even now why you said it or how accurate it is

Should have said likeness, competition and sector.

Doesn't matter what you say, he is in it for the argument, but we'll aware you can get burned on this..

Should have said likeness, competition and sector.

No issues at all. Anyone can sell a t-shirt. There is no likeness, hence the reason they are being sold. If there was likeness issue then there would be no need to make them. They are not in any way contravening any legal standing.

I will happily place a bet they wont be challenged on it. Yet im sure nobody will take that bet up, more fun to argue

Should have said likeness, competition and sector.

Doesn't matter what you say, he is in it for the argument, but we'll aware you can get burned on this..

So I give a constructive and factual post which is responded to with a load of petty insults from you and its ME that is in it for the argument?

As i said, give me one reason there is a legal issue and a discussion can ensue. Until then you are just talking rubbish.

So still no constructive reply? The words dont say Cardiff City FC, it says Cardiff City Bluebirds.

It is not a copyright issue, simple as that.

i have no interest in investing as they have already been manufactured and also have no idea what the margins are.

Then we have a difference in opinion. My original post advised to make sure there is no legal issues before selling them and advertising them on here.

hmmm not quite. You made it pretty clear there WAS legal issues yet couldnt back that up at all.

You say go for it. If you don't see this as tapping into the club merchant, you don't. But without a clearance from the club it might be a costly one.

of course it is. As is the club tapping into the customers of this shirt. As is a new brand of coffee tapping into nescafes customers. Unless there is clear evidence of ripping the clubs ideas or trademarks off then there is no case.

This shirt displays none of the above.

If you want to spend your day splitting hairs to try win another argument, go right ahead. But you wouldn't dear invest 10£, and you know exactly why..

splitting hairs? this isnt splitting hairs pal, you are saying its illegal and im telling you it is not - thats a major talking point not splitting hairs

I wouldnt invest in it for the reasons stated. The official cardiff jersey is legal and i havent invested in that either

I suggest next time if you dont wish to be called out then dont be such a knob in your replies when it ends up you dont even now why you said it or how accurate it is

Yes it is illegal you moron. Cardiff City is official trademark. The shirt resemble and try to dublicate the trademark, and going into direct competition in the market. Don't try to be more stupid than you already are

I like that shirt and I'll be buying it. I haven't bought a City top for two years having buying all three options of home, away and third kit shirts for the previous 15 years, it will be nice to buy and wear a BLUE Cardiff top with the predominant BLUEBIRD badge on it, even though it's not Cardiff City official merchandise. I will wear it with pride to show I'm a true blue and always will be. Good luck to the person producing them

Should have said likeness, competition and sector.

No issues at all. Anyone can sell a t-shirt. There is no likeness, hence the reason they are being sold. If there was likeness issue then there would be no need to make them. They are not in any way contravening any legal standing.

I will happily place a bet they wont be challenged on it. Yet im sure nobody will take that bet up, more fun to argue

I have to agree with Roathie, plus the club would make themselves look fools if they even tried as they dont want anything to do with our proud traditions.

The National and World press would back the person.

Even the latest of many incidents by our club now regarding the despicable red seats and not giving fans their money back, was all over the Spanish press and it made our club look pathetic once again.

So still no constructive reply? The words dont say Cardiff City FC, it says Cardiff City Bluebirds.

It is not a copyright issue, simple as that.

i have no interest in investing as they have already been manufactured and also have no idea what the margins are.

Then we have a difference in opinion. My original post advised to make sure there is no legal issues before selling them and advertising them on here.

hmmm not quite. You made it pretty clear there WAS legal issues yet couldnt back that up at all.

You say go for it. If you don't see this as tapping into the club merchant, you don't. But without a clearance from the club it might be a costly one.

of course it is. As is the club tapping into the customers of this shirt. As is a new brand of coffee tapping into nescafes customers. Unless there is clear evidence of ripping the clubs ideas or trademarks off then there is no case.

This shirt displays none of the above.

If you want to spend your day splitting hairs to try win another argument, go right ahead. But you wouldn't dear invest 10£, and you know exactly why..

splitting hairs? this isnt splitting hairs pal, you are saying its illegal and im telling you it is not - thats a major talking point not splitting hairs

I wouldnt invest in it for the reasons stated. The official cardiff jersey is legal and i havent invested in that either

I suggest next time if you dont wish to be called out then dont be such a knob in your replies when it ends up you dont even now why you said it or how accurate it is

Yes it is illegal you moron. Cardiff City is official trademark. The shirt resemble and try to dublicate the trademark, and going into direct competition in the market. Don't try to be more stupid than you already are

You can say moron all you like but it doesnt change anything at all. "cardiff city bluebirds" is NOT an official trademark whether you like to say it is or not.

The badges are completely different, the composition of the shirts are completely different, the colouring of the shirts are completely different.

The only person coming across as stupid is you young man

Look at the striking resemblance.

Swap your kids official ones in their wardrobe and they wont even notice. Identical in every way

On a side note it goes to show much nicer this new fan created version is.

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Should have said likeness, competition and sector.

No issues at all. Anyone can sell a t-shirt. There is no likeness, hence the reason they are being sold. If there was likeness issue then there would be no need to make them. They are not in any way contravening any legal standing.

I will happily place a bet they wont be challenged on it. Yet im sure nobody will take that bet up, more fun to argue

I have to agree with Roathie, plus the club would make themselves look fools if they even tried as they dont want anything to do with our proud traditions.

The National and World press would back the person.

Even the latest of many incidents by our club now regarding the despicable red seats and not giving fans their money back, was all over the Spanish press and it made our club look pathetic once again.

The club would look like any other company in the world protecting their brand and there is thousand of legal cases documenting what I am saying. Every poster on this thread calling it a Cardiff City blue shirt prove my point, and my point Is I wouldn't gamble on it, and neither dear Roathie

Look at the striking resemblance.

Swap your kids official ones in their wardrobe and they wont even notice. Identical in every way

Yes, please do. And city own all rights
http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Cardiff ... f_City.htm

The club would look like any other company in the world protecting their brand and there is thousand of legal cases documenting what I am saying. Every poster on this thread calling it a Cardiff City blue shirt prove my point, and my point Is I wouldn't gamble on it, and neither dear Roathie

So if I call my ipad a loaf of bread will Microsoft be getting a call from Hovis? What someone labels it as is irrelevant, it is what IT IS that is what gets looked at.

And it is a t-shirt with no copyright issues what so ever on it.

Look at the striking resemblance.

Swap your kids official ones in their wardrobe and they wont even notice. Identical in every way

Yes, please do. And city own all rights
http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Cardiff ... f_City.htm

So you are looking at expired patents and attributing them to the present day?

Nice logic.

Those shirts arent sold by cardiff city fc so not even likeness is an issue

The club would look like any other company in the world protecting their brand and there is thousand of legal cases documenting what I am saying. Every poster on this thread calling it a Cardiff City blue shirt prove my point, and my point Is I wouldn't gamble on it, and neither dear Roathie

So if I call my ipad a loaf of bread will Microsoft be getting a call from Hovis? What someone labels it as is irrelevant, it is what IT IS that is what gets looked at.

And it is a t-shirt with no copyright issues what so ever on it.

Exactly. A Cardiif city shirt, tapping into the clubs market doesn't matter what you call yor iPad, if any design resemble their brand or copyright you are in trouble.

Exactly. A Cardiif city shirt, tapping into the clubs market doesn't matter what you call yor iPad, if any design resemble their brand or copyright you are in trouble.

Greggs are tapping into simons bakery too. Asda are tapping into tesco customers. Superdry and tapping into hollister

Etc etc etc

Nature of business. No issue

The shirts DO NOT resemble eachother.

Exactly. A Cardiif city shirt, tapping into the clubs market doesn't matter what you call yor iPad, if any design resemble their brand or copyright you are in trouble.

Greggs are tapping into simons bakery too. Asda are tapping into tesco customers. Superdry and tapping into hollister

Etc etc etc

Nature of business. No issue

The shirts DO NOT resemble eachother.

good luck then

Exactly. A Cardiif city shirt, tapping into the clubs market doesn't matter what you call yor iPad, if any design resemble their brand or copyright you are in trouble.

Which is one of the reasons it doesn't have any of the club's copyrights on there. Although I fail to see how it has the club's brand on there. The whole point of the shirt is to move away from the club's current brand, surely?!

As for tapping into the market... are you serious?!