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Re: ' Blue or Red Poll '

Fri May 16, 2014 9:04 am

Bobby Woodruff's long throw wrote:
Roath_Magic_ wrote:There was never a threat of the club going under just as Alan Whitely confirmed. I was also quite vocal at the time explaining how this wasnt the case.

I even outlined a detailed explanation how with the debt levels at the time maybe even administration didnt need to happen in order to move on as a self sufficient club.... But it would be a long road and many seasons of competing at e wrong end of ghe leagues you occupied but as someone said at the time... "Where is the fun in that" :shock:

There wasnt many mentioning "club ceasing to exist" at the time. It was all to do with, ive been watching 50 years and paid my dues and i deserve some success etc etc it was truly sickening to read, thats from a jack. :shock:

This feeling continues to this day. Nobody wants to rock the tan/red boat because of the trappings that come with Tans reign. its truly truly shocking, especially when you have the likes of wez and soulofthesea suggesting that we are somehow jealous of Tan :lol:

Trust me, there are reds spewing out of your club and its as plain as day. Take the cash away and its pretty much all blue - no argument there. However with red DOES come loans, and its a money hungry faux success driven fanbase - has been for over a decade. Its insatiable... And that is why you are getting people picking red.


I appreciate you love the sound of your own voice,which unfortunately for those of us here, seems to be the driving force behind most of your posts.However, I can't see how you can comment on what the people/supporters on the ground are feeling with regard to red or blue in and around the city, from 10,000 miles away (alledgedly :lol: ).
I do understand that spending up to 16 hours a day on a Cardiff City forum and maybe Wales online, with a shot of the BBC thrown in for good measure, may fool you into thinking that you have your finger on the pulse of the city :roll:

I think you'd actually have to be here to understsnd fully the feeling of the place...................hmmmm.


I very much have the finger on the pulse. I own a business and houses there, it is my adult hometown. I know many many people in and around the city and know exactly the score. Where I am now (allegedly :lol: ) is irrelevant.

Again, not sure how many times I have to say this, the internet is not a physical place and can be accessed from anywhere and not sat at the computer staring at a screen :D you are my entertainment as im working online :thumbup:

Re: ' Blue or Red Poll '

Fri May 16, 2014 9:16 am

Roath_Magic_ wrote:
Bobby Woodruff's long throw wrote:
Roath_Magic_ wrote:There was never a threat of the club going under just as Alan Whitely confirmed. I was also quite vocal at the time explaining how this wasnt the case.

I even outlined a detailed explanation how with the debt levels at the time maybe even administration didnt need to happen in order to move on as a self sufficient club.... But it would be a long road and many seasons of competing at e wrong end of ghe leagues you occupied but as someone said at the time... "Where is the fun in that" :shock:

There wasnt many mentioning "club ceasing to exist" at the time. It was all to do with, ive been watching 50 years and paid my dues and i deserve some success etc etc it was truly sickening to read, thats from a jack. :shock:

This feeling continues to this day. Nobody wants to rock the tan/red boat because of the trappings that come with Tans reign. its truly truly shocking, especially when you have the likes of wez and soulofthesea suggesting that we are somehow jealous of Tan :lol:

Trust me, there are reds spewing out of your club and its as plain as day. Take the cash away and its pretty much all blue - no argument there. However with red DOES come loans, and its a money hungry faux success driven fanbase - has been for over a decade. Its insatiable... And that is why you are getting people picking red.


I appreciate you love the sound of your own voice,which unfortunately for those of us here, seems to be the driving force behind most of your posts.However, I can't see how you can comment on what the people/supporters on the ground are feeling with regard to red or blue in and around the city, from 10,000 miles away (alledgedly :lol: ).
I do understand that spending up to 16 hours a day on a Cardiff City forum and maybe Wales online, with a shot of the BBC thrown in for good measure, may fool you into thinking that you have your finger on the pulse of the city :roll:

I think you'd actually have to be here to understsnd fully the feeling of the place...................hmmmm.


I very much have the finger on the pulse. I own a business and houses there, it is my adult hometown. I know many many people in and around the city and know exactly the score. Where I am now (allegedly :lol: ) is irrelevant.

Again, not sure how many times I have to say this, the internet is not a physical place and can be accessed from anywhere and not sat at the computer staring at a screen :D you are my entertainment as im working online :thumbup:


:roll: you are amusing, i'll give you that.... :thumbup:

Re: ' Blue or Red Poll '

Fri May 16, 2014 9:17 am

Amusing or not amusing - doesnt interest me.

Im just telling you how it is.

Re: ' Blue or Red Poll '

Fri May 16, 2014 9:20 am

This pole now mirrors the results of the previous poll before the thread about turned up on Planet Swamp and before there was a mass discussion amongst Jacks on twitter about it.

I think that says it all.

Re: ' Blue or Red Poll '

Fri May 16, 2014 9:20 am

This whole sage shows how little Roathie knows or how clouded his judgement really is. Glad to see more people ignoring him on here.

Re: ' Blue or Red Poll '

Fri May 16, 2014 9:21 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:This pole now mirrors the results of the previous poll before the thread about turned up on Planet Swamp and before there was a mass discussion amongst Jacks on twitter about it.

I think that says it all.


Rubbish.

As i said, once it swings blue then its correct if it swings red then its corrupt :D

Re: ' Blue or Red Poll '

Fri May 16, 2014 9:23 am

mjw6150 wrote:This whole sage shows how little Roathie knows or how clouded his judgement really is. Glad to see more people ignoring him on here.


Eh? What is my judgement that this thread has shown as clouded? :?

Ive said nothing on the subject at all have I? :?

.... Unless of course you are just making up arguments and assigning them to people just to make a pointless point? :lol:

Re: ' Blue or Red Poll '

Fri May 16, 2014 9:25 am

90% of crowd singing pro blue songs and wearing blue.
85% of members here want CCFC to wear blue.

Yet the only poll you want to take into consideration is the one that has been hijacked (with proof of it being hijacked) by Swansea fans to read that the majority want red?

3 sources and you want to take the least "fair" one... ie. the one that has been open to fixing by rival fans, with proof of this happening. Genuinely don't understand it.

Re: ' Blue or Red Poll '

Fri May 16, 2014 9:25 am

Roath_Magic_ wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:This pole now mirrors the results of the previous poll before the thread about turned up on Planet Swamp and before there was a mass discussion amongst Jacks on twitter about it.

I think that says it all.


Rubbish.

As i said, once it swings blue then its correct if it swings red then its corrupt :D



the poll hasnt swung red at all though. it was 10-10 at the start, since then its been natural one way traffic, up to the point, and percentage that was seen from the wales online poll

Re: ' Blue or Red Poll '

Fri May 16, 2014 9:27 am

paulh_85 wrote:
Roath_Magic_ wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:This pole now mirrors the results of the previous poll before the thread about turned up on Planet Swamp and before there was a mass discussion amongst Jacks on twitter about it.

I think that says it all.


Rubbish.

As i said, once it swings blue then its correct if it swings red then its corrupt :D



the poll hasnt swung red at all though. it was 10-10 at the start, since then its been natural one way traffic, up to the point, and percentage that was seen from the wales online poll


It was 65% red at one point, and when it was then it was "the jacks". When the poll was 65% on wales online it was "the jacks".

As soon as its blue then "thats now correct" :D

Surely you can see how ridiculous that is?

Re: ' Blue or Red Poll '

Fri May 16, 2014 9:31 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:90% of crowd singing pro blue songs and wearing blue.
85% of members here want CCFC to wear blue.

Yet the only poll you want to take into consideration is the one that has been hijacked (with proof of it being hijacked) by Swansea fans to read that the majority want red?

3 sources and you want to take the least "fair" one... ie. the one that has been open to fixing by rival fans, with proof of this happening. Genuinely don't understand it.


Not at all, im happy to take all evidence on board but will give them credence on their own merits. Im not saying this one is any more or less valid than the Wales online one, please point me to where ive said this?

Singing pro blue songs means nothing. As ive said, ive seen our stadium all chant england is full of shit in unison, how many actually believe that? In fact my fiancee is english and was singing it at one point :laughing6: people follow trends.

Wanting to wear blue is one thing, im sure most people do. Wanting to wear blue at the expense of the cash loans is another.... And that is my point.

Re: ' Blue or Red Poll '

Fri May 16, 2014 9:32 am

Roath_Magic_ wrote:Amusing or not amusing - doesnt interest me.

Im just telling you how I pretend it is.

Re: ' Blue or Red Poll '

Fri May 16, 2014 9:33 am

Bobby Woodruff's long throw wrote:
Roath_Magic_ wrote:Amusing or not amusing - doesnt interest me.

Im just telling you how I and everyone else KNOWS it is.


:thumbup:

Re: ' Blue or Red Poll '

Fri May 16, 2014 9:37 am

Roath_Magic_ wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
Roath_Magic_ wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:This pole now mirrors the results of the previous poll before the thread about turned up on Planet Swamp and before there was a mass discussion amongst Jacks on twitter about it.

I think that says it all.


Rubbish.

As i said, once it swings blue then its correct if it swings red then its corrupt :D



the poll hasnt swung red at all though. it was 10-10 at the start, since then its been natural one way traffic, up to the point, and percentage that was seen from the wales online poll


It was 65% red at one point, and when it was then it was "the jacks". When the poll was 65% on wales online it was "the jacks".

As soon as its blue then "thats now correct" :D

Surely you can see how ridiculous that is?



thats not it at all, not from me anyway, the wales online one was 85% before being hi-jacked, the one on here was indeed 65% red at one point, but that was after about 10 votes!

my point is that the circa 85% number is about correct, which for me, has now been shown i two different polls.

Re: ' Blue or Red Poll '

Fri May 16, 2014 9:39 am

How do you know "when" it was hijacked? Or even if it was at all? Seems like a handful of people voted red to me no proof that more voted red "falsely" than blue falsely.

Its just guesswork to fit a story.

Couldnt I say pro blues were voting loads of times and hijacking it which is why it was 85%? If hijacking is used for the result of one swing then to suggest its not the case with the other is simple a one way poll.
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Re: ' Blue or Red Poll '

Fri May 16, 2014 9:40 am

Roath_Magic_ wrote:
Bobby Woodruff's long throw wrote:
Roath_Magic_ wrote:Amusing or not amusing - doesnt interest me.

Im just telling you how I and everyone else KNOWS it is.


:thumbup:


Know what is?
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Re: ' Blue or Red Poll '

Fri May 16, 2014 9:41 am

Roath_Magic_ wrote:How do you know "when" it was hijacked? Or even if it was at all?

Its just guesswork to fit a story.

Couldnt I say pro blues were voting loads of times and hijacking it which is why it was 85%?



its not guess work though, as im led to believe the link was posted on the swansea forum at that time, and around twitter with people commenting on sabotaging the vote.

Now i dont go on the swansea board so i havent seen it for myself, but several people have mentioned that it happened, and if so, then it was clearly hi-jacked

Re: ' Blue or Red Poll '

Fri May 16, 2014 9:42 am

paulh_85 wrote:
Roath_Magic_ wrote:How do you know "when" it was hijacked? Or even if it was at all?

Its just guesswork to fit a story.

Couldnt I say pro blues were voting loads of times and hijacking it which is why it was 85%?



its not guess work though, as im led to believe the link was posted on the swansea forum at that time, and around twitter with people commenting on sabotaging the vote.

Now i dont go on the swansea board so i havent seen it for myself, but several people have mentioned that it happened, and if so, then it was clearly hi-jacked


So if there was a vote in the UK election and there was a thread on planetswans to vote Labour and labour got in then you think we can attribute that to a thread on planetswans?

Lets not forget there was a thread on here telling people to multi vote blue too. Cardiff fans have twitter, cardiff fans have this forum and their own poll thread... Not to mention a larger fanbase as we are told - yet you think swansea fans (who the vast majority werent even aware or cared) outvoted your lot.

Not for me.

Re: ' Blue or Red Poll '

Fri May 16, 2014 9:49 am

5 pages of pointless pantomime and this is a sticky. :crazy:

Re: ' Blue or Red Poll '

Fri May 16, 2014 9:56 am

I can't imagine who would have voted red that many times, maybe somebody with plenty of time on their hands, someone perhaps who spends hours and hours a day on the internet,vote, back,vote,back,vote,back,vote,back etc etc....
now let me think :roll: ............mmmmm

No, nobody comes to mind.......

Re: ' Blue or Red Poll '

Fri May 16, 2014 10:05 am

Bobby Woodruff's long throw wrote:I can't imagine who would have voted red that many times, maybe somebody with plenty of time on their hands, someone perhaps who spends hours and hours a day on the internet,vote, back,vote,back,vote,back,vote,back etc etc....
now let me think :roll: ............mmmmm

No, nobody comes to mind.......


And there is my point in a nutshell :lol:

Re: ' Blue or Red Poll '

Fri May 16, 2014 10:24 am

Laughable how if you don't agree with something or a comment it's always a Jack on a wind up

Re: ' Blue or Red Poll '

Fri May 16, 2014 10:29 am

waddle wrote:Laughable how if you don't agree with something or a comment it's always a Jack on a wind up


Absolutely. There's even a thread about it on Planet Swans which show they were on the wind up. :thumbup:

Re: ' Blue or Red Poll '

Fri May 16, 2014 11:00 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:
waddle wrote:Laughable how if you don't agree with something or a comment it's always a Jack on a wind up


Absolutely. There's even a thread about it on Planet Swans which show they were on the wind up. :thumbup:


He is sying that its ridiculous.

There were a few posters on that thread, cant see many saying about multi voting either.

to think they outvoted the whole cardiff voting fanbase os ridiculous. There was a thread on here telling everyone to multi vote blue.

Re: ' Blue or Red Poll '

Fri May 16, 2014 12:19 pm

Bobby Woodruff's long throw wrote:I can't imagine who would have voted red that many times, maybe somebody with plenty of time on their hands, someone perhaps who spends hours and hours a day on the internet,vote, back,vote,back,vote,back,vote,back etc etc....
now let me think :roll: ............mmmmm

No, nobody comes to mind.......


Spot on ;) ..........I haven't read all the threads on here as I haven't got a couple of hours to read the same things over and over again. It's obvious the poll was hiJACKed. Polls, at least those where you can only vote the once, tend to follow patterns. They don't just suddenly swing from one side to another, so overwhelmingly and in such a small time frame. The fact that it happened at the same time as the Jacks got wind of it, says it all. Robert Mugabe or Putin would have been proud of that poll, as Roathie knows all too well :lol: I suppose the reason Cardiff fans didn't sit in front of a screen all day, is because they've got lives to lead :o. :lol: BTW....Why do you support Swansea if Cardiff is your home town??

Re: ' Blue or Red Poll '

Fri May 16, 2014 12:41 pm

Daft by name daft by nature I guess :laughing6:

Come on pal, use your noggin. To think a few jacks outvoted your fanbase is just silly.

Re: ' Blue or Red Poll '

Fri May 16, 2014 12:58 pm

Daft Dave wrote:
Bobby Woodruff's long throw wrote:I can't imagine who would have voted red that many times, maybe somebody with plenty of time on their hands, someone perhaps who spends hours and hours a day on the internet,vote, back,vote,back,vote,back,vote,back etc etc....
now let me think :roll: ............mmmmm

No, nobody comes to mind.......


Spot on ;) ..........I haven't read all the threads on here as I haven't got a couple of hours to read the same things over and over again. It's obvious the poll was hiJACKed. Polls, at least those where you can only vote the once, tend to follow patterns. They don't just suddenly swing from one side to another, so overwhelmingly and in such a small time frame. The fact that it happened at the same time as the Jacks got wind of it, says it all. Robert Mugabe or Putin would have been proud of that poll, as Roathie knows all too well :lol: I suppose the reason Cardiff fans didn't sit in front of a screen all day, is because they've got lives to lead :o. :lol: BTW....Why do you support Swansea if Cardiff is your home town??


Cardiff isn't his hometown, he just lived a good deal of his adult life here.

The funny thing is though, he's never lived in Swansea. :laughing5: :laughing5:

but he did drive past it a few times.......

Re: ' Blue or Red Poll '

Fri May 16, 2014 1:07 pm

Bobby Woodruff's long throw wrote:Cardiff isn't his hometown, he just lived a good deal of his adult life here.

The funny thing is though, he's never lived in Swansea. :laughing5: :laughing5:

but he did drive past it a few times.......


Very true. :thumbright:

Although i class cardiff as my hometown.

Re: ' Blue or Red Poll '

Fri May 16, 2014 1:17 pm

Roath_Magic_ wrote:
Bobby Woodruff's long throw wrote:Cardiff isn't his hometown, he just lived a good deal of his adult life here.

The funny thing is though, he's never lived in Swansea. :laughing5: :laughing5:

but he did drive past it a few times.......


Very true. :thumbright:

Although i class cardiff as my hometown.


But your a fan of Swansea?? and have no allegiance to your hometown. :?

Re: ' Blue or Red Poll '

Fri May 16, 2014 1:19 pm

Allegiance in terms of what?

Isnt it said that most Cardiff fans are not from Cardiff but the valleys?