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Re: Malky Mackay

Tue Apr 29, 2014 10:20 am

If Tan was worth his salt, he would create a stable background for a manager to get on with it. He created an absolutely poisonous background under Mackay, no manager would be able to work with.

Palace have a shit squad but have a good chairman, look at them.

Any manager under Tan knows he is on borrowed time.

He spent badly in the summer, okay, that is your opinion. Some of those aren't bad players at all, Cardiff aren't a big team and we managed to get some big players. They have just been badly managed imo and I don't blame the managers for that, I blame Tan for creating such a circus no one can work efficiently under.

Re: Malky Mackay

Tue Apr 29, 2014 10:22 am

CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:
Bluebird64 wrote:
CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:
Bluebird64 wrote:
CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:I hope youre proud of yourself this morning you f*cking clown.

40m on this little lot:
Caulker
Medel
Cornelius
KTC
A.N.other 3 who were signed and have been nowhere to be seen


Hang your head in shame you f*cking waster.

YOU are the reason we are going down.

Complete bollox. We were not in the bottom 3 under Malky fact and this is quite an achievement even though tan did his best to try and destabilise Malky and his staff. Tan is the only one at fault and to be honest if you cannot see that then you deserve all the championship football that tan will serve up for the foreseeable future.


1 point above the bottom 3 with our worst run of fixtures to come.

1 win in 9.

We were in free fall.

You might be able to see that for yourself if you took your Malky rose tinted glasses off.

Like I said Malky and his staff were undermined at every turn.It was a miracle that under those circumstances we were not at the bottom like we are now. Only tan to blame but you will need to take off those tan tinted specs first.


Undermimed :lol:

If someone wastes £40m on utter tripe then any CEO worth his salts will demand answers.

Tans a c**t for what hes done to our identity but I am 100% with him being fucked off at what Malky and Moody did with the huge amount of money he made available to them in the summer.


Both true.

Fully understand Tan wanting rid of a man for wasting vast amounts of cash... But on the other hand his disruption and the wrong type of manager appointed made you a much easier prospect for the opposition.

Re: Malky Mackay

Tue Apr 29, 2014 10:29 am

Mario wrote:If Tan was worth his salt, he would create a stable background for a manager to get on with it. He created an absolutely poisonous background under Mackay, no manager would be able to work with.

Palace have a shit squad but have a good chairman, look at them.

Any manager under Tan knows he is on borrowed time.

He spent badly in the summer, okay, that is your opinion. Some of those aren't bad players at all, Cardiff aren't a big team and we managed to get some big players. They have just been badly managed imo and I don't blame the managers for that, I blame Tan for creating such a circus no one can work efficiently under.


Thats complete nonsense even by your standards. :lol:

The players we spent 40m on are rubbish.

Gary looked okay until about October, now he lookes like he isnt fit enough to play for a pub team.

Caulker is massively overated, has been at fault for loads of goals but escapes critiscm because theres worse defenders than him in the team.

Cornelius. Couldnt even score in the warm up.

KTC - Utter garbage. At fault for about 15-20 goals.

Brayford - The invisible man.

Odemwingie - Played out of position. Now being managed properly looks a good player.

None of the above is Tans fault.

Re: Malky Mackay

Tue Apr 29, 2014 10:32 am

Mario wrote:If Tan was worth his salt, he would create a stable background for a manager to get on with it. He created an absolutely poisonous background under Mackay, no manager would be able to work with.

Palace have a shit squad but have a good chairman, look at them.

Any manager under Tan knows he is on borrowed time.

He spent badly in the summer, okay, that is your opinion. Some of those aren't bad players at all, Cardiff aren't a big team and we managed to get some big players. They have just been badly managed imo and I don't blame the managers for that, I blame Tan for creating such a circus no one can work efficiently under.

Exactly. Tan undermined his manager then made a drastic change that has backfired. All the fans who waved Malky off and welcomed what tan did are all now feeling foolish and are looking for a scapegoat which is pathetic. So to all you tan and ole lovers out there you appear to have backed the wrong horse (or donkey in this case) so go and bury your heads in shame and hope the embarrassment will wear off ready for the start of next season in the championship.

Re: Malky Mackay

Tue Apr 29, 2014 10:34 am

Bluebird64 wrote:
Mario wrote:If Tan was worth his salt, he would create a stable background for a manager to get on with it. He created an absolutely poisonous background under Mackay, no manager would be able to work with.

Palace have a shit squad but have a good chairman, look at them.

Any manager under Tan knows he is on borrowed time.

He spent badly in the summer, okay, that is your opinion. Some of those aren't bad players at all, Cardiff aren't a big team and we managed to get some big players. They have just been badly managed imo and I don't blame the managers for that, I blame Tan for creating such a circus no one can work efficiently under.

Exactly. Tan undermined his manager then made a drastic change that has backfired. All the fans who waved Malky off and welcomed what tan did are all now feeling foolish and are looking for a scapegoat which is pathetic. So to all you tan and ole lovers out there you appear to have backed the wrong horse (or donkey in this case) so go and bury your heads in shame and hope the embarrassment will wear off ready for the start of next season in the championship.


Leader Leader Leader :notworthy:

Re: Malky Mackay

Tue Apr 29, 2014 10:36 am

:wave: Malky

Re: Malky Mackay

Tue Apr 29, 2014 10:36 am

CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:
Mario wrote:If Tan was worth his salt, he would create a stable background for a manager to get on with it. He created an absolutely poisonous background under Mackay, no manager would be able to work with.

Palace have a shit squad but have a good chairman, look at them.

Any manager under Tan knows he is on borrowed time.

He spent badly in the summer, okay, that is your opinion. Some of those aren't bad players at all, Cardiff aren't a big team and we managed to get some big players. They have just been badly managed imo and I don't blame the managers for that, I blame Tan for creating such a circus no one can work efficiently under.


Thats complete nonsense even by your standards. :lol:

The players we spent 40m on are rubbish.

Gary looked okay until about October, now he lookes like he isnt fit enough to play for a pub team.

Caulker is massively overated, has been at fault for loads of goals but escapes critiscm because theres worse defenders than him in the team.

Cornelius. Couldnt even score in the warm up.

KTC - Utter garbage. At fault for about 15-20 goals.

Brayford - The invisible man.

Odemwingie - Played out of position. Now being managed properly looks a good player.

None of the above is Tans fault.


As I've said you f*cking quim, if he spent the money badly that is your opinion and fair enough. It would have been a circus of a season regardless of money spent or people in charge. He would have sacked whoever was in charge if we were around the relegation zone.

What is his fault is creating a horrible atmosphere no manager could work with.

Re: Malky Mackay

Tue Apr 29, 2014 10:39 am

Mario wrote:
CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:
Mario wrote:If Tan was worth his salt, he would create a stable background for a manager to get on with it. He created an absolutely poisonous background under Mackay, no manager would be able to work with.

Palace have a shit squad but have a good chairman, look at them.

Any manager under Tan knows he is on borrowed time.

He spent badly in the summer, okay, that is your opinion. Some of those aren't bad players at all, Cardiff aren't a big team and we managed to get some big players. They have just been badly managed imo and I don't blame the managers for that, I blame Tan for creating such a circus no one can work efficiently under.


Thats complete nonsense even by your standards. :lol:

The players we spent 40m on are rubbish.

Gary looked okay until about October, now he lookes like he isnt fit enough to play for a pub team.

Caulker is massively overated, has been at fault for loads of goals but escapes critiscm because theres worse defenders than him in the team.

Cornelius. Couldnt even score in the warm up.

KTC - Utter garbage. At fault for about 15-20 goals.

Brayford - The invisible man.

Odemwingie - Played out of position. Now being managed properly looks a good player.

None of the above is Tans fault.


As I've said you f*cking quim, if he spent the money badly that is your opinion and fair enough. It would have been a circus of a season regardless of money spent or people in charge. He would have sacked whoever was in charge if we were around the relegation zone.


Its not just my opinion, its the opinion of anyone with a football brain.

If the money wasnt spent so badly the circus wouldnt have started you tool. Duh.

You should apply for a job at Tans circus, you are the biggest clown down the CCS

Re: Malky Mackay

Tue Apr 29, 2014 10:40 am

If Tan created a stable environment, we wouldn't be in this position. That is my opinion.

Re: Malky Mackay

Tue Apr 29, 2014 10:40 am

Lets be fair here the money wasnt just spent badly, it was Gross Negligence.

Malky should be banned from any transfer activity for 10 years.

Re: Malky Mackay

Tue Apr 29, 2014 10:41 am

You sound like Tan.

Re: Malky Mackay

Tue Apr 29, 2014 10:42 am

Mario wrote:You sound like Tan.


You look like him

Re: Malky Mackay

Tue Apr 29, 2014 11:05 am

I see no one has mentioned Noone, mutch, Kim, mason and harries all I'm sure will net the club a healthy profit

Re: Malky Mackay

Tue Apr 29, 2014 11:07 am

super kev legend wrote:I see no one has mentioned Noone, mutch, Kim, mason and harries all I'm sure will net the club a healthy profit


And what value would you put on these then?

Malky spent 60m on transfers alone, so far weve got 6m back.

Re: Malky Mackay

Tue Apr 29, 2014 11:12 am

10 million was used to gain promotion which netted the club over 100 million pound.

Cheers, bye , thanks. :wave:

Re: Malky Mackay

Tue Apr 29, 2014 11:14 am

CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:
super kev legend wrote:I see no one has mentioned Noone, mutch, Kim, mason and harries all I'm sure will net the club a healthy profit


AQwhat value would you put on these then?

Malky spent 60m on transfers alone, so far weve got 6m back.



I'm not saying that, what I'm saying is malky made some great signings as well as some poor as do all managers. The revenue from being in the prem covers any loss on corn and brayford who were the duds

Re: Malky Mackay

Tue Apr 29, 2014 11:15 am

CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:
Odemwingie - Played out of position. Now being managed properly looks a good player.

None of the above is Tans fault.



This for me, is a perfect example of the situation. Yes, Tan's meddling was obviously not going to help matters, but for all the money spend Odemwingie could have been a decent buy (2.5m?)

but he came here, with a good reputation in the prem over many seasons, and was completely and utterly ruined. Very rarely did he play in the correct position, was never given a solid run of games before being the first one off after 60 mins.


This transfer says a lot about Malky as a manager for me, Got a player with a proven scoring record and didnt have a clue what to do with him.

Re: Malky Mackay

Tue Apr 29, 2014 11:18 am

Odemwingie was playing okay for me, he shouldn't have been sold.

Re: Malky Mackay

Tue Apr 29, 2014 11:22 am

CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:
Mario wrote:
CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:
Mario wrote:If Tan was worth his salt, he would create a stable background for a manager to get on with it. He created an absolutely poisonous background under Mackay, no manager would be able to work with.

Palace have a shit squad but have a good chairman, look at them.

Any manager under Tan knows he is on borrowed time.

He spent badly in the summer, okay, that is your opinion. Some of those aren't bad players at all, Cardiff aren't a big team and we managed to get some big players. They have just been badly managed imo and I don't blame the managers for that, I blame Tan for creating such a circus no one can work efficiently under.


Thats complete nonsense even by your standards. :lol:

The players we spent 40m on are rubbish.

Gary looked okay until about October, now he lookes like he isnt fit enough to play for a pub team.

Caulker is massively overated, has been at fault for loads of goals but escapes critiscm because theres worse defenders than him in the team.

Cornelius. Couldnt even score in the warm up.

KTC - Utter garbage. At fault for about 15-20 goals.

Brayford - The invisible man.

Odemwingie - Played out of position. Now being managed properly looks a good player.

None of the above is Tans fault.


As I've said you f*cking quim, if he spent the money badly that is your opinion and fair enough. It would have been a circus of a season regardless of money spent or people in charge. He would have sacked whoever was in charge if we were around the relegation zone.


Its not just my opinion, its the opinion of anyone with a football brain.

If the money wasnt spent so badly the circus wouldnt have started you tool. Duh.

You should apply for a job at Tans circus, you are the biggest clown down the CCS



Anyone with a football brain knows our best chance of staying up was with malky in charge. Unfortunately for us no one on our board have got a clue about football and we end up in the situation we are in.

Re: Malky Mackay

Tue Apr 29, 2014 11:26 am

Golden cheetah wrote:
CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:I hope youre proud of yourself this morning you f*cking clown.

40m on this little lot:
Caulker
Medel
Cornelius
KTC
A.N.other 3 who were signed and have been nowhere to be seen


Hang your head in shame you f*cking waster.

YOU are the reason we are going down.



Spot on :thumbup:

Re: Malky Mackay

Tue Apr 29, 2014 12:10 pm

super kev legend wrote:
CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:
super kev legend wrote:I see no one has mentioned Noone, mutch, Kim, mason and harries all I'm sure will net the club a healthy profit


AQwhat value would you put on these then?

Malky spent 60m on transfers alone, so far weve got 6m back.



I'm not saying that, what I'm saying is malky made some great signings as well as some poor as do all managers. The revenue from being in the prem covers any loss on corn and brayford who were the duds


How can you call Mason a "Great signing"? Malky didnt use him in the promotion season then shipped him out on loan. Harris hasnt even made a first team appearance ffs. Kim isnt worth any more than the 2.5m we paid for him.

Noone and Mutch fair enough, should make a profit on them but nowhere near the amount of money weve wasted, and the PL money still wont cover it either.

Medel has turned out to be a dud. You think we will get anywhere near the 11m we paid for him? :lol: At best we will be lucky to get 15m back for the players we spent 40m on.

Caulker will be the only player we will get more than 50% of what we paid and thats only because hes young and English, hes massively overated.

How much money do people think weve gained by being in the Prem? On transfers and wages we spent 40m last season getting to the prem, the wages were 30m in the Championship so you can probably stick another 50% on that say 45m for this season and thats being conservative, 40-50m spent on transfers in the Premiership.

Theres your Premiership and season ticket money gone already.

Re: Malky Mackay

Tue Apr 29, 2014 12:16 pm

Mario wrote:10 million was used to gain promotion which netted the club over 100 million pound.

Cheers, bye , thanks. :wave:


10 million + 30 million wages + 40m transfers + 40-50m wages thats 120-130m spent in the last 2 years alone and now we have average players on massive wages.

Ciao Ciao

Re: Malky Mackay

Tue Apr 29, 2014 12:16 pm

To be fair none of us know really how much money has been gained from getting to the prem, same as none of us know truly how much money was spent.

Re: Malky Mackay

Tue Apr 29, 2014 12:17 pm

Mario wrote:To be fair none of us know really how much money has been gained from getting to the prem, same as none of us know truly how much money was spent.



you can make very good estimations though, that at least give a rough idea to the shit storm we are in.

Re: Malky Mackay

Tue Apr 29, 2014 12:25 pm

Mario wrote:To be fair none of us know really how much money has been gained from getting to the prem, same as none of us know truly how much money was spent.


It will all be in the annual report and accounts, the same as it is now known we spent 40m last season whilst gaining promotion.

Re: Malky Mackay

Tue Apr 29, 2014 12:30 pm

CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:
Mario wrote:To be fair none of us know really how much money has been gained from getting to the prem, same as none of us know truly how much money was spent.


It will all be in the annual report and accounts, the same as it is now known we spent 40m last season whilst gaining promotion.


If wages count towards what managers spend then f**k knows how much Man City 'spent' last year.

Manchester City's wage bill in 2013 was £233million. That has increased aswell. Add to that the actually money spent on transfers then we are talking ludicrous amounts. Bonuses, signings on fees.......

No one counts wages towards what managers spend. The manager doesn't draw up the wage offers, as I said Mackay isn't a money man, he simply is a football manager, the club has financial advisers to take care of that.

Re: Malky Mackay

Tue Apr 29, 2014 12:35 pm

Mario wrote:
CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:
Mario wrote:To be fair none of us know really how much money has been gained from getting to the prem, same as none of us know truly how much money was spent.


It will all be in the annual report and accounts, the same as it is now known we spent 40m last season whilst gaining promotion.


If wages count towards what managers spend then f**k knows how much Man City 'spent' last year.

Manchester City's wage bill in 2013 was £233million. That has increased aswell. Add to that the actually money spent on transfers then we are talking ludicrous amounts. Bonuses, signings on fees.......

No one counts wages towards what managers spend. The manager doesn't draw up the wage offers, as I said Mackay isn't a money man, he simply is a football manager, the club has financial advisers to take care of that.


Of course they count you whopper. Wages and transfers all part of a budget the manager has to work with.

If you are going to make comparisons about what weve earned by promotion you take into account everything we spent getting it.

This isnt the 1970's football managers have to be so much more than picking the team for a Saturday afternoon :roll:

Re: Malky Mackay

Tue Apr 29, 2014 12:38 pm

The term whopper is the new cool word everyone is using then.

Re: Malky Mackay

Tue Apr 29, 2014 12:40 pm

Mario wrote:The term whopper is the new cool word everyone is using then.


No its been around a while, but probably used on you more frequently than any other poster because you are the biggest whopper on here.

Re: Malky Mackay

Tue Apr 29, 2014 1:35 pm

Blame Malky for everything if it' makes you feel better but many fans were dribbling at the prospect of tans master plan when he brought in ole. You can now all dribble at the fact that you are going to watch non premier football for some time to come, anyone with a football brain as you say would realise that it was suicide to undermine and change a manager when tan did so and :old: you can now use your superior football brains to study the championship in great detail. Some of you backed the wrong horse by supporting tans plan to get rid of Malky and some of you are still backing the wrong horse by continuing to support tan.