Mon Apr 14, 2014 1:06 pm
Roath_Magic_ wrote:CF3Bluebird wrote:Roath_Magic_ wrote:But a correct c**t
f**k all correct about you pal, best part about you ran down your mums leg 13yrs ago by sounds! Time to get over your infatuation for all things Blue i think lad.
Brilliant retort
Mon Apr 14, 2014 1:08 pm
Roath_Magic_ wrote:But a correct c**t
Mon Apr 14, 2014 2:15 pm
toshacks_1_tales wrote:Roath_Magic_ wrote:But a correct c**t
Which part of a return to blue being the aim, and not Tan out, do you not understand? If Tan leaves so does our ambition and means of prolonged success. If he stays and turns us blue, then your little club should keep a close eye over it's shoulder, as we race on by. This is the reason for your egging people on, to protest against Tan. Fear of the consequences of him not leaving and returning us blue, thus uniting Cardiff for a huge push and rise to a position above you, in all things football.
Mon Apr 14, 2014 7:02 pm
toshacks_1_tales wrote:Roath_Magic_ wrote:But a correct c**t
Which part of a return to blue being the aim, and not Tan out, do you not understand? If Tan leaves so does our ambition and means of prolonged success. If he stays and turns us blue, then your little club should keep a close eye over it's shoulder, as we race on by. This is the reason for your egging people on, to protest against Tan. Fear of the consequences of him not leaving and returning us blue, thus uniting Cardiff for a huge push and rise to a position above you, in all things football.
Mon Apr 14, 2014 7:47 pm
Roath_Magic_ wrote:toshacks_1_tales wrote:Roath_Magic_ wrote:But a correct c**t
Which part of a return to blue being the aim, and not Tan out, do you not understand? If Tan leaves so does our ambition and means of prolonged success. If he stays and turns us blue, then your little club should keep a close eye over it's shoulder, as we race on by. This is the reason for your egging people on, to protest against Tan. Fear of the consequences of him not leaving and returning us blue, thus uniting Cardiff for a huge push and rise to a position above you, in all things football.
But i could reverse that and say which part of you wont be blue under Tan do you not understand? He has made it quite clear.
The rest of it is just nonsene, it really is. It is the type of nonsense that was spouted when he took over. You have spent £70m on players since and you are weeks away from the championship. With Tan there you do not have a model for success.
I think its awful that you cant see that, especially after the riddler and Sam. Its exactly that reason why you are in this mess in the first place.
Mon Apr 14, 2014 7:56 pm
toshacks_1_tales wrote:Roath_Magic_ wrote:toshacks_1_tales wrote:Roath_Magic_ wrote:But a correct c**t
Which part of a return to blue being the aim, and not Tan out, do you not understand? If Tan leaves so does our ambition and means of prolonged success. If he stays and turns us blue, then your little club should keep a close eye over it's shoulder, as we race on by. This is the reason for your egging people on, to protest against Tan. Fear of the consequences of him not leaving and returning us blue, thus uniting Cardiff for a huge push and rise to a position above you, in all things football.
But i could reverse that and say which part of you wont be blue under Tan do you not understand? He has made it quite clear.
The rest of it is just nonsene, it really is. It is the type of nonsense that was spouted when he took over. You have spent £70m on players since and you are weeks away from the championship. With Tan there you do not have a model for success.
I think its awful that you cant see that, especially after the riddler and Sam. Its exactly that reason why you are in this mess in the first place.
Are we really in that much of a mess? Relegation is possible, it was always possible, it could well happen to you. We re-group, learn form any mistakes and go again. All our debts are cleared apart from a large loan to the owner of the club. Not a problem at the moment. Our stadium capacity is being raised and upgraded. State of the art training facilities on the horizon. A forward thinking and in demand manager at the helm. You never know we could even be in blue next season. Lets just wait and see how this mess of a club looks come the start of next season. We can chat some more then. Have you looked at the league form table recently?
Mon Apr 14, 2014 8:12 pm
Roath_Magic_ wrote:toshacks_1_tales wrote:Roath_Magic_ wrote:toshacks_1_tales wrote:Roath_Magic_ wrote:But a correct c**t
Which part of a return to blue being the aim, and not Tan out, do you not understand? If Tan leaves so does our ambition and means of prolonged success. If he stays and turns us blue, then your little club should keep a close eye over it's shoulder, as we race on by. This is the reason for your egging people on, to protest against Tan. Fear of the consequences of him not leaving and returning us blue, thus uniting Cardiff for a huge push and rise to a position above you, in all things football.
But i could reverse that and say which part of you wont be blue under Tan do you not understand? He has made it quite clear.
The rest of it is just nonsene, it really is. It is the type of nonsense that was spouted when he took over. You have spent £70m on players since and you are weeks away from the championship. With Tan there you do not have a model for success.
I think its awful that you cant see that, especially after the riddler and Sam. Its exactly that reason why you are in this mess in the first place.
Are we really in that much of a mess? Relegation is possible, it was always possible, it could well happen to you. We re-group, learn form any mistakes and go again. All our debts are cleared apart from a large loan to the owner of the club. Not a problem at the moment. Our stadium capacity is being raised and upgraded. State of the art training facilities on the horizon. A forward thinking and in demand manager at the helm. You never know we could even be in blue next season. Lets just wait and see how this mess of a club looks come the start of next season. We can chat some more then. Have you looked at the league form table recently?
Yes, quite simply.
Your debts are not cleared at all. You have taken out a larger loan to pay them off and you now owe three times as much. You are a rebranded club in £100m of debt, you have a whole club run by one unpopular man who has employed lackeys throughout, you have a fanbase that is disenfranchised and a business model that will keep seeing the debt rise and rise and more people will be looking to take your club for a ride, players managers and chairman alike.
The league table form means nothing. This isnt about the last 6 games it is about your existence as a club.
Mon Apr 14, 2014 8:14 pm
Mon Apr 14, 2014 8:16 pm
Roath_Magic_ wrote:toshacks_1_tales wrote:Roath_Magic_ wrote:toshacks_1_tales wrote:Roath_Magic_ wrote:But a correct c**t
Which part of a return to blue being the aim, and not Tan out, do you not understand? If Tan leaves so does our ambition and means of prolonged success. If he stays and turns us blue, then your little club should keep a close eye over it's shoulder, as we race on by. This is the reason for your egging people on, to protest against Tan. Fear of the consequences of him not leaving and returning us blue, thus uniting Cardiff for a huge push and rise to a position above you, in all things football.
But i could reverse that and say which part of you wont be blue under Tan do you not understand? He has made it quite clear.
The rest of it is just nonsene, it really is. It is the type of nonsense that was spouted when he took over. You have spent £70m on players since and you are weeks away from the championship. With Tan there you do not have a model for success.
I think its awful that you cant see that, especially after the riddler and Sam. Its exactly that reason why you are in this mess in the first place.
Are we really in that much of a mess? Relegation is possible, it was always possible, it could well happen to you. We re-group, learn form any mistakes and go again. All our debts are cleared apart from a large loan to the owner of the club. Not a problem at the moment. Our stadium capacity is being raised and upgraded. State of the art training facilities on the horizon. A forward thinking and in demand manager at the helm. You never know we could even be in blue next season. Lets just wait and see how this mess of a club looks come the start of next season. We can chat some more then. Have you looked at the league form table recently?
Yes, quite simply.
Your debts are not cleared at all. You have taken out a larger loan to pay them off and you now owe three times as much. You are a rebranded club in £100m of debt, you have a whole club run by one unpopular man who has employed lackeys throughout, you have a fanbase that is disenfranchised and a business model that will keep seeing the debt rise and rise and more people will be looking to take your club for a ride, players managers and chairman alike.
The league table form means nothing. This isnt about the last 6 games it is about your existence as a club.
Mon Apr 14, 2014 11:10 pm
toshacks_1_tales wrote:Roath_Magic_ wrote:toshacks_1_tales wrote:Roath_Magic_ wrote:toshacks_1_tales wrote:Roath_Magic_ wrote:But a correct c**t
Which part of a return to blue being the aim, and not Tan out, do you not understand? If Tan leaves so does our ambition and means of prolonged success. If he stays and turns us blue, then your little club should keep a close eye over it's shoulder, as we race on by. This is the reason for your egging people on, to protest against Tan. Fear of the consequences of him not leaving and returning us blue, thus uniting Cardiff for a huge push and rise to a position above you, in all things football.
But i could reverse that and say which part of you wont be blue under Tan do you not understand? He has made it quite clear.
The rest of it is just nonsene, it really is. It is the type of nonsense that was spouted when he took over. You have spent £70m on players since and you are weeks away from the championship. With Tan there you do not have a model for success.
I think its awful that you cant see that, especially after the riddler and Sam. Its exactly that reason why you are in this mess in the first place.
Are we really in that much of a mess? Relegation is possible, it was always possible, it could well happen to you. We re-group, learn form any mistakes and go again. All our debts are cleared apart from a large loan to the owner of the club. Not a problem at the moment. Our stadium capacity is being raised and upgraded. State of the art training facilities on the horizon. A forward thinking and in demand manager at the helm. You never know we could even be in blue next season. Lets just wait and see how this mess of a club looks come the start of next season. We can chat some more then. Have you looked at the league form table recently?
Yes, quite simply.
Your debts are not cleared at all. You have taken out a larger loan to pay them off and you now owe three times as much. You are a rebranded club in £100m of debt, you have a whole club run by one unpopular man who has employed lackeys throughout, you have a fanbase that is disenfranchised and a business model that will keep seeing the debt rise and rise and more people will be looking to take your club for a ride, players managers and chairman alike.
The league table form means nothing. This isnt about the last 6 games it is about your existence as a club.
The last few games have a lot to do with our immediate future. Most owners are unpopular. Debt is not for immediate payment. One lackey was employed temporarily. Re-brands can be reversed, and could well be. Fanbases like all fanbases are fickle and avoiding relegation and turning to blue will see a change of view for most. The owner has fulfilled every promise thus far and I'm sure being a successful business man, gives him the license to make decisions regarding the debt, owed to himself, in his own time. We can take this up again, as I said earlier, at the start of next season.You failed to comment on some of the facts presented to you above. Just see what you want to see.
Mon Apr 14, 2014 11:12 pm
Simonella wrote:
I dont want to spend 5 more pages arguing with you, now that you are fully rested and have you nose all filled up with happiness, but you talk some good shit mateGive it a rest will you, and let things evolve with out our new found whipping boy.
Yes i know you think you are the messiah of truth, but you really havent got a clue what business model have been put into to action of late
Tue Apr 15, 2014 1:58 am
Roath_Magic_ wrote:Who is arguing? Im just telling you how it is.
Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:04 am
Fergy1927 wrote:Roath_Magic_ wrote:Who is arguing? Im just telling you how it is.
That wasn't a very intelligent thing to say.
Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:05 am
Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:06 am
Roath_Magic_ wrote:Fergy1927 wrote:Roath_Magic_ wrote:Who is arguing? Im just telling you how it is.
That wasn't a very intelligent thing to say.
It wasnt supposed to be "intelligent" it was simply a statement of fact.
Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:07 am
Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:09 am
Roath_Magic_ wrote:It wasnt supposed to be "intelligent" it was simply a statement of fact.
Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:10 am
Fergy1927 wrote:Roath_Magic_ wrote:It wasnt supposed to be "intelligent" it was simply a statement of fact.
Sorry. You don't seem to understand me.
How did you go with the cyclone? Are you up north?
Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:13 am
Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:14 am
Roath_Magic_ wrote:Fergy1927 wrote:Roath_Magic_ wrote:It wasnt supposed to be "intelligent" it was simply a statement of fact.
Sorry. You don't seem to understand me.
How did you go with the cyclone? Are you up north?
I do understand, just replying as i see it.
Tail end of it, was just a bit of a storm. No different to this time of year in Brisbane.
Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:16 am
Fergy1927 wrote:Roath_Magic_ wrote:Fergy1927 wrote:Roath_Magic_ wrote:It wasnt supposed to be "intelligent" it was simply a statement of fact.
Sorry. You don't seem to understand me.
How did you go with the cyclone? Are you up north?
I do understand, just replying as i see it.
Tail end of it, was just a bit of a storm. No different to this time of year in Brisbane.
How you or I see something doesn't necessarily make is fact. Not to worry though.
I'm in Brisbane too. For some reason I thought you were up north.
Do you watch any of the Swansea games in the city? I often watch matches in the Pig on Eagle St.
Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:19 am
Roath_Magic_ wrote:And that IS how it is.
Roath_Magic_ wrote:Nope, Glasshouse Mountains region. I have foxtel so watch them all on TV
Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:20 am
Fergy1927 wrote:Roath_Magic_ wrote:And that IS how it is.
That is not very intelligent.
It wasnt supposed to be "intelligent" it was simply a statement of fact.Roath_Magic_ wrote:Nope, Glasshouse Mountains region. I have foxtel so watch them all on TV
What a great place to live. Stunning scenery and close to the beaches.
yeah, it is a great place to live.
Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:20 am
Roath_Magic_ wrote:Simonella wrote:
I dont want to spend 5 more pages arguing with you, now that you are fully rested and have you nose all filled up with happiness, but you talk some good shit mateGive it a rest will you, and let things evolve with out our new found whipping boy.
Yes i know you think you are the messiah of truth, but you really havent got a clue what business model have been put into to action of late
Who is arguing? Im just telling you how it is. I dont expect you to accept it, hence why your fanbase continues to have this problem.
But maybe it will resonate with your inner being somewhere and when the time is right, you will realise what is right in front of you.
Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:25 am
Simonella wrote:Roath_Magic_ wrote:Simonella wrote:
I dont want to spend 5 more pages arguing with you, now that you are fully rested and have you nose all filled up with happiness, but you talk some good shit mateGive it a rest will you, and let things evolve with out our new found whipping boy.
Yes i know you think you are the messiah of truth, but you really havent got a clue what business model have been put into to action of late
Who is arguing? Im just telling you how it is. I dont expect you to accept it, hence why your fanbase continues to have this problem.
But maybe it will resonate with your inner being somewhere and when the time is right, you will realise what is right in front of you.
Remind me what is. You keep throwing some number about, but they change every page or which way you turn your argument.
And that is really all you are about. How much was it we owed again? 80, 100, 120? They seem to fluctuate up and down like you argument. How much is the club assets worth again? They seem to fluctuate as-well. Thats not telling as is, that is suiting you argument, and not doing a good job at it. Tan should take his 7,5 mill profit and run? And you keep bringing up business models from the kock up last year, but failed to see the new strategy. Is that it? you didnt know?
Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:40 am
Roath_Magic_ wrote:Simonella wrote:Roath_Magic_ wrote:Simonella wrote:
I dont want to spend 5 more pages arguing with you, now that you are fully rested and have you nose all filled up with happiness, but you talk some good shit mateGive it a rest will you, and let things evolve with out our new found whipping boy.
Yes i know you think you are the messiah of truth, but you really havent got a clue what business model have been put into to action of late
Who is arguing? Im just telling you how it is. I dont expect you to accept it, hence why your fanbase continues to have this problem.
But maybe it will resonate with your inner being somewhere and when the time is right, you will realise what is right in front of you.
Remind me what is. You keep throwing some number about, but they change every page or which way you turn your argument.
And that is really all you are about. How much was it we owed again? 80, 100, 120? They seem to fluctuate up and down like you argument. How much is the club assets worth again? They seem to fluctuate as-well. Thats not telling as is, that is suiting you argument, and not doing a good job at it. Tan should take his 7,5 mill profit and run? And you keep bringing up business models from the kock up last year, but failed to see the new strategy. Is that it? you didnt know?
It is simple to work out rough figures. Exact numbers dont really matter as long as the premise is the same.
Tan says you ate in £80m debt, that doesnt sound accurate. He is probably talking about this second in time. Transfer fees are amortised so it isnt taking into consideration future debt attached to the dealings of this season. You spent £50m or whatever this season. That takes it to £100m. You hadnt paid for the expansion or the training ground at the time either, thats another £20m. Etc etc etc
But whether it is £100m, £120m or £140m - it doesnt make much difference to what is being said really does it, as what is being said it the business model is not working and Tan needs to get his cash before the amortisation kicks in.
Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:50 am
Simonella wrote:It matter very much when you suggest Tan should strip the club asset and take his 7,5 mill and run. The club just tripled its money on the january signments and is restructuring the signing policy. Ole wont be given any funds to rebuild this summer, but have to sell to buy. The club is putting money into assets that cant be stripped. That suggest what exactly? Short term or long term? Any change in business models? I know it is impossible for you to say you are wrong, but you havent got a clue
Wed Apr 16, 2014 12:08 am
Roath_Magic_ wrote:Simonella wrote:It matter very much when you suggest Tan should strip the club asset and take his 7,5 mill and run. The club just tripled its money on the january signments and is restructuring the signing policy. Ole wont be given any funds to rebuild this summer, but have to sell to buy. The club is putting money into assets that cant be stripped. That suggest what exactly? Short term or long term? Any change in business models? I know it is impossible for you to say you are wrong, but you havent got a clue
You can keep telling yourself that if it helps, but it doesnt change anything.
The training ground can absolutely be sold, it will be owned by Tan. The stadium expansion makes the sale of the club easier as under financial fair play, the bigger the stadium the more attractive as the potential earning power grows slightly.
The business plan wont change to any great effect, you will have contracts you cannot dump added to a squad in which last season made you lose a million a month spending 189% of income on wages.
Wed Apr 16, 2014 2:10 am
Wed Apr 16, 2014 7:31 pm