Looks like even Moyes disagrees with Roathy

Did you not understand my question? Using ridiculous analogies again to hide the fact that you have been placed Ina sticky situation. Don't go down the gases are largely made of atoms again please, it was embarrassing last time.
Is it not people who decide if an event or person can be described as legendary by using that adjective when describing the action or person?

Uppity? Just calling it as it is

Of course people decide who legends are you tool. Is there some magic formula required then? Does a computer print a certificate out as soon as certain criteria are met, taking people out of the equation? As suggested on here Man U fans will determine his legendary status over time, not you.

Absolutely uppity with your jibes. Calm down man

Nope, im afraid thats not the case. Are you suggesting now that Frazier Campbell is a legend because a cardiff fan decided he was? Legends come to the forefront by their own achievements. They don't need people to pick them out of a crowd, they rise above the crowd.

I will repeat. Any legend could have a statue in their honour without question marks - they are legends. It would be ridiculous in the extreme to have on of OGS.

Legend status is the highest accolade you can achieve at a club... Yet when you compare someone like Solskjaer to someone like Ryan Giggs or Dennis Law it seems a little ridiculous doesnt it? But why? Because one is a true legend and the other is a fans favourite with a modern distorted "legend" status attached. You get called a legend for downing a pint in 6 seconds these days.

The irony of you calling somebody uppity
Repeat all you want your not the person who decides. I'm not suggesting anything about Campbell or pint drinkers either.

I'm intrigued as to how people don't decide who legends are

There is no irony there carps

Where have I said that I decide? You have suggested fans decide who is a legend yet dont think Campbell is even though a cardiff fan said he was... Where is the sense? Yet you know hes not because he isnt fitting of the title, his achievements speak for themselves.

Ive explained to you how people dont decide who legends are. Their achievements pick themselves. Legends achieve greatness through their incredible actions to which you may not see too often. Yet Solskjaers main achievement (scoring winner in champions league) is seen every year guaranteed. His goal has made him a fans favourite and will never have to buy a drink again in Manchester as a result... But he is not a legend.

You're comparing a single viewpoint with the view of the masses. Hence a random posting on a forum doesn't lead to legend status, but a consensus amongst fans over a period of time does. Who interprets achievements as being worthy of legendary status? People! Otherwise you can define criteria and once the right boxes have been ticked that's it, you're a legend!

But it's not that simple now is it? Legendary status can come from different forms of the game. Great goals, number of goals, appearances, key goals, tackling prowess, defensive solidity, creativity with the ball, etc etc. Even the slur of " sub" you dismissed him with could be the source of his legendary status. Fairclough is still remembered as the "super sub".
It's how a player is remembered by the fans over time that creates legends.

Fans are people. The people decide.

Denis Law, incredible actions? Once more.... Rooney has scored more goals already for Man Utd tham Law did
so why should Denis have this statue

And once again, No he hasnt.

You do realise you are talking about what many people described as a hero of a generation dont you? You are being bery silly now comparing Solskjaer to that of Denis Law

I do believe Denis Law already has a statue at Old Trafford.

Did you not understand my question? Using ridiculous analogies again to hide the fact that you have been placed Ina sticky situation. Don't go down the gases are largely made of atoms again please, it was embarrassing last time.
Is it not people who decide if an event or person can be described as legendary by using that adjective when describing the action or person?

Read it again if you didnt understand it. I described it and answered it word perfectly.

So would be the person be in the statue? Dennis Law
Need help with those knots William?
Game to watch!

You're comparing a single viewpoint with the view of the masses. Hence a random posting on a forum doesn't lead to legend status, but a consensus amongst fans over a period of time does. Who interprets achievements as being worthy of legendary status? People! Otherwise you can define criteria and once the right boxes have been ticked that's it, you're a legend!

the masses mean nothing. The masses supported genocide against the Jews in the 40's were they roght to do so? No.

Nobody needs to interpret what achievements are worthy of legendary status. They are already there. Their outstanding actions on the pitch do the talking. Ole Solskjaers on field achievements are not much different to many United strikers not considered legends. For large parts of his career he sat watching from the bench.

But it's not that simple now is it? Legendary status can come from different forms of the game. Great goals, number of goals, appearances, key goals, tackling prowess, defensive solidity, creativity with the ball, etc etc. Even the slur of " sub" you dismissed him with could be the source of his legendary status. Fairclough is still remembered as the "super sub".
It's how a player is remembered by the fans over time that creates legends.

disagree entirely and again you are crossing into the realms of fans favourite. You can not be a legend for a great goal, its just nonsense. By its definition: legend is something scarcely believable. Truly outstanding achievement and overall contribution head and shoulders above the rest. Solskjaer is not a legend.

Fans are people. The people decide.

disagree entirely.

So would be the person be in the statue? Dennis Law
Need help with those knots William?
Game to watch!

Knots? You are just being silly

There will also be a ball in the statue yet the statue isnt of the ball, and neither is it of solskjaer. It would be a moment in time in tribute to a great match and champions league win.... Not a great man.

Which bit are you struggling with?

You're comparing a single viewpoint with the view of the masses. Hence a random posting on a forum doesn't lead to legend status, but a consensus amongst fans over a period of time does. Who interprets achievements as being worthy of legendary status? People! Otherwise you can define criteria and once the right boxes have been ticked that's it, you're a legend!

the masses mean nothing. The masses supported genocide against the Jews in the 40's were they roght to do so? No.

Nobody needs to interpret what achievements are worthy of legendary status. They are already there. Their outstanding actions on the pitch do the talking. Ole Solskjaers on field achievements are not much different to many United strikers not considered legends. For large parts of his career he sat watching from the bench.

But it's not that simple now is it? Legendary status can come from different forms of the game. Great goals, number of goals, appearances, key goals, tackling prowess, defensive solidity, creativity with the ball, etc etc. Even the slur of " sub" you dismissed him with could be the source of his legendary status. Fairclough is still remembered as the "super sub".
It's how a player is remembered by the fans over time that creates legends.

disagree entirely and again you are crossing into the realms of fans favourite. You can not be a legend for a great goal, its just nonsense. By its definition: legend is something scarcely believable. Truly outstanding achievement and overall contribution head and shoulders above the rest. Solskjaer is not a legend.

Fans are people. The people decide.

disagree entirely.

What a stupid and ignorant analogy to use re genocide. No the masses did not support genocide. Words fail me.

What a stupid and ignorant analogy to use re genocide. No the masses did not support genocide. Words fail me.

Words have failed you for most of this thread Carps to be fair

Of course they did, the war effort was largely based on propaganda filled support. Although if you dislike it then we can say the masses thought Cornelius was a great signing....

It was a stupid thing to say from you that the masses are correct and this decide. Although it is a perfect out now to discuss World War 2.

Go nuts

I'm shocked you have managed to compare a footballing matter to mass murder. Something clearly wrong with you

I'm shocked you have managed to compare a footballing matter to mass murder. Something clearly wrong with you

And the subject changing hysteria begins

Where have i compared football to murder?

I have given an example how mass opinion doesnt mean correct opinion.

Answer the question I asked William, it was quite a simple one. Is it not people who decide if an event or person deserves the adjective legendary? The answers possible are yes, no or I don't know. Does that help you ?

Answer the question I asked William, it was quite a simple one. Is it not people who decide if an event or person deserves the adjective legendary? The answers possible are yes, no or I don't know. Does that help you ?

Already answered Martyn. Several times. Read back would be my advice.

To put the thread to bed:

No person connected with Cardiff City will be legend in this strange Narcissist's eyes

Maybe it was a Cardiff woman that left him?

I'm shocked you have managed to compare a footballing matter to mass murder. Something clearly wrong with you

And the subject changing hysteria begins

Where have i compared football to murder?

I have given an example how mass opinion doesnt mean correct opinion.

You can choose from a wide variety of topics yet you choose genocide

What a stupid and ignorant analogy to use re genocide. No the masses did not support genocide. Words fail me.

Words have failed you for most of this thread Carps to be fair

Of course they did, the war effort was largely based on propaganda filled support. Although if you dislike it then we can say the masses thought Cornelius was a great signing....

It was a stupid thing to say from you that the masses are correct and this decide. Although it is a perfect out now to discuss World War 2.

Go nuts

I have no intention of discussing any war with you. But heh let's make light of genocide. Grow up you f*cking idiot.

Perhaps if you were a football fan and not just an armchair stato then you would understand how players earn their legendary status. I'll keep looking out for this computer that decides on who gets a statue though

I'm shocked you have managed to compare a footballing matter to mass murder. Something clearly wrong with you

And the subject changing hysteria begins

Where have i compared football to murder?

I have given an example how mass opinion doesnt mean correct opinion.

You can choose from a wide variety of topics yet you choose genocide

Indeed. Is nobody allowed to reference a historical event anymore then?

What a stupid and ignorant analogy to use re genocide. No the masses did not support genocide. Words fail me.

Words have failed you for most of this thread Carps to be fair

Of course they did, the war effort was largely based on propaganda filled support. Although if you dislike it then we can say the masses thought Cornelius was a great signing....

It was a stupid thing to say from you that the masses are correct and this decide. Although it is a perfect out now to discuss World War 2.

Go nuts

I have no intention of discussing any war with you. But heh let's make light of genocide. Grow up you f*cking idiot.

Perhaps if you were a football fan and not just an armchair stato then you would understand how players earn their legendary status. I'll keep looking out for this computer that decides on who gets a statue though

Whos making light of it you plum?

Back to the armchair jibe. Oh you hurt to the core carps .

Come back when you are willing to discuss like an intelligent being and not a name calling child

I'm shocked you have managed to compare a footballing matter to mass murder. Something clearly wrong with you

And the subject changing hysteria begins

Where have i compared football to murder?

I have given an example how mass opinion doesnt mean correct opinion.

You can choose from a wide variety of topics yet you choose genocide

Indeed. Is nobody allowed to reference a historical event anymore then?

Of course they are. I'm just amazed you used such an extreme example over a small footballing debate.

To put the thread to bed:

No person connected with Cardiff City will be legend in this strange Narcissist's eyes

Maybe it was a Cardiff woman that left him?

What an odd post from an ever increasingly odd new poster

I'm shocked you have managed to compare a footballing matter to mass murder. Something clearly wrong with you

And the subject changing hysteria begins

Where have i compared football to murder?

I have given an example how mass opinion doesnt mean correct opinion.

You can choose from a wide variety of topics yet you choose genocide

Indeed. Is nobody allowed to reference a historical event anymore then?

Of course they are. I'm just amazed you used such an extreme example over a small footballing debate.

It isnt extreme in the slightest, its reality. It is probably the best example possible regarding mass opinion being incorrect.

Drama queen

Anyway. Thanks for the half time entertainment chaps. Speak in 45mins

What a stupid and ignorant analogy to use re genocide. No the masses did not support genocide. Words fail me.

Words have failed you for most of this thread Carps to be fair

Of course they did, the war effort was largely based on propaganda filled support. Although if you dislike it then we can say the masses thought Cornelius was a great signing....

It was a stupid thing to say from you that the masses are correct and this decide. Although it is a perfect out now to discuss World War 2.

Go nuts

I have no intention of discussing any war with you. But heh let's make light of genocide. Grow up you f*cking idiot.

Perhaps if you were a football fan and not just an armchair stato then you would understand how players earn their legendary status. I'll keep looking out for this computer that decides on who gets a statue though

Whos making light of it you plum?

Back to the armchair jibe. Oh you hurt to the core carps .

Come back when you are willing to discuss like an intelligent being and not a name calling child

I've made my points and can do no more as I find your stance laughable, typical of an armchair fan. It's not meant to hurt you, its fact is it not? Plainly evident too.

You call me a plum then in the same post call me a name calling child. Hypocrisy.

My instruction remains though - come back when you've grown up you f*cking idiot

What a stupid and ignorant analogy to use re genocide. No the masses did not support genocide. Words fail me.

Words have failed you for most of this thread Carps to be fair

Of course they did, the war effort was largely based on propaganda filled support. Although if you dislike it then we can say the masses thought Cornelius was a great signing....

It was a stupid thing to say from you that the masses are correct and this decide. Although it is a perfect out now to discuss World War 2.

Go nuts

I have no intention of discussing any war with you. But heh let's make light of genocide. Grow up you f*cking idiot.

Perhaps if you were a football fan and not just an armchair stato then you would understand how players earn their legendary status. I'll keep looking out for this computer that decides on who gets a statue though

Whos making light of it you plum?

Back to the armchair jibe. Oh you hurt to the core carps .

Come back when you are willing to discuss like an intelligent being and not a name calling child

I've made my points and can do no more as I find your stance laughable, typical of an armchair fan. It's not meant to hurt you, its fact is it not? Plainly evident too.

You call me a plum then in the same post call me a name calling child. Hypocrisy.

My instruction remains though - come back when you've grown up you f*cking idiot

I called you a plum for acting like a plum devoid of any debate just berrating and name calling. I was mild

Your jibes are as pathetic as your argument itself. A season ticket holder prior to moving away for 15 years and now travels every season thousands of miles in order to watch a game at least every season - an armchair fan? Yeah, right ok carps

yet more anger and outrage at someone simply stating the obvious, this internet lark isnt for you son.

What a stupid and ignorant analogy to use re genocide. No the masses did not support genocide. Words fail me.

Words have failed you for most of this thread Carps to be fair

Of course they did, the war effort was largely based on propaganda filled support. Although if you dislike it then we can say the masses thought Cornelius was a great signing....

It was a stupid thing to say from you that the masses are correct and this decide. Although it is a perfect out now to discuss World War 2.

Go nuts

I have no intention of discussing any war with you. But heh let's make light of genocide. Grow up you f*cking idiot.

Perhaps if you were a football fan and not just an armchair stato then you would understand how players earn their legendary status. I'll keep looking out for this computer that decides on who gets a statue though

Whos making light of it you plum?

Back to the armchair jibe. Oh you hurt to the core carps .

Come back when you are willing to discuss like an intelligent being and not a name calling child

I've made my points and can do no more as I find your stance laughable, typical of an armchair fan. It's not meant to hurt you, its fact is it not? Plainly evident too.

You call me a plum then in the same post call me a name calling child. Hypocrisy.

My instruction remains though - come back when you've grown up you f*cking idiot

I called you a plum for acting like a plum devoid of any debate just berrating and name calling. I was mild

Your jibes are as pathetic as your argument itself. A season ticket holder prior to moving away for 15 years and now travels every season thousands of miles in order to watch a game at least every season - an armchair fan? Yeah, right ok carps

yet more anger and outrage at someone simply stating the obvious, this internet lark isnt for you son.

Bullshit I doubt you've ever been close to a football stadium.
My points still stand and make more sense than the tripe you came up with and your pathetic statue computer.

And I called you a f*cking idiot for acting like, well a f*cking idiot

If you can't debate properly without twisting and squirming your way and throwing in pathetic genocide comparisons then this internet lark isn't for you son

Bullshit I doubt you've ever been close to a football stadium.
My points still stand and make more sense than the tripe you came up with and your pathetic statue computer.

And I called you a f*cking idiot for acting like, well a f*cking idiot

If you can't debate properly without twisting and squirming your way and throwing in pathetic genocide comparisons then this internet lark isn't for you son

Stop getting so angry

I dont care what you doubt. You are a very bitter young man seemingly unable to make rational decisions, you are clouded by your anger. Your doubts are worthless... Unless you can prove otherwise of course?

Your points make no sense at all. You say fans decide who is a legend and then dismiss a fan calling Campbell a legend. You then change it to the masses choose so they are correct and then i show you that masses are not always correct and you flip your lid

Calm down, discuss properly, or log off. This internet lark doesnt seem for you son

Bullshit I doubt you've ever been close to a football stadium.
My points still stand and make more sense than the tripe you came up with and your pathetic statue computer.

And I called you a f*cking idiot for acting like, well a f*cking idiot

If you can't debate properly without twisting and squirming your way and throwing in pathetic genocide comparisons then this internet lark isn't for you son

Stop getting so angry

I dont care what you doubt. You are a very bitter young man seemingly unable to make rational decisions, you are clouded by your anger. Your doubts are worthless... Unless you can prove otherwise of course?

Your points make no sense at all. You say fans decide who is a legend and then dismiss a fan calling Campbell a legend. You then change it to the masses choose so they are correct and then i show you that masses are not always correct and you flip your lid

Calm down, discuss properly, or log off. This internet lark doesnt seem for you son

Your posts are my proof.

And I'm very calm, why wouldn't I be? You seemed quite irate when being outed as an armchair fan.

Your comparison of masses in the context of football fans and genocide was pathetic and irrelevant.

I find it bizarre and comical that you don't think that its fans who bestow the honour of legend on a player. I think Dwyer is for Cardiff, what does your computer say?

Bullshit I doubt you've ever been close to a football stadium.
My points still stand and make more sense than the tripe you came up with and your pathetic statue computer.

And I called you a f*cking idiot for acting like, well a f*cking idiot

If you can't debate properly without twisting and squirming your way and throwing in pathetic genocide comparisons then this internet lark isn't for you son

Stop getting so angry

I dont care what you doubt. You are a very bitter young man seemingly unable to make rational decisions, you are clouded by your anger. Your doubts are worthless... Unless you can prove otherwise of course?

Your points make no sense at all. You say fans decide who is a legend and then dismiss a fan calling Campbell a legend. You then change it to the masses choose so they are correct and then i show you that masses are not always correct and you flip your lid

Calm down, discuss properly, or log off. This internet lark doesnt seem for you son

Your posts are my proof.

And I'm very calm, why wouldn't I be? You seemed quite irate when being outed as an armchair fan.

Your comparison of masses in the context of football fans and genocide was pathetic and irrelevant.

I find it bizarre and comical that you don't think that its fans who bestow the honour of legend on a player. I think Dwyer is for Cardiff, what does your computer say?

Really? Ok well case dismissed due to insufficient evidence from the prosecution, don't waste our time again - is the verdict.

The only one swearing and taking this off topic to become personal and make unfounded accusations in an apparent rage is you carps, just you

It wasnt a "comparison" at all, and it certainly wasnt irrelevant. It was showing you that the masses are, and indeed often, wrong. Simple as that. Of you didnt like it im afraid it is just something you are going to have to deal with.

I find it bizarre you are of the opinion fans can call anyone they like legends, but only if you agree. Whens the statue of Frazer campbell being wrected?

Bullshit I doubt you've ever been close to a football stadium.
My points still stand and make more sense than the tripe you came up with and your pathetic statue computer.

And I called you a f*cking idiot for acting like, well a f*cking idiot

If you can't debate properly without twisting and squirming your way and throwing in pathetic genocide comparisons then this internet lark isn't for you son

Stop getting so angry

I dont care what you doubt. You are a very bitter young man seemingly unable to make rational decisions, you are clouded by your anger. Your doubts are worthless... Unless you can prove otherwise of course?

Your points make no sense at all. You say fans decide who is a legend and then dismiss a fan calling Campbell a legend. You then change it to the masses choose so they are correct and then i show you that masses are not always correct and you flip your lid

Calm down, discuss properly, or log off. This internet lark doesnt seem for you son

Your posts are my proof.

And I'm very calm, why wouldn't I be? You seemed quite irate when being outed as an armchair fan.

Your comparison of masses in the context of football fans and genocide was pathetic and irrelevant.

I find it bizarre and comical that you don't think that its fans who bestow the honour of legend on a player. I think Dwyer is for Cardiff, what does your computer say?

Really? Ok well case dismissed due to insufficient evidence from the prosecution, don't waste our time again - is the verdict.

The only one swearing and taking this off topic to become personal and make unfounded accusations in an apparent rage is you carps, just you

It wasnt a "comparison" at all, and it certainly wasnt irrelevant. It was showing you that the masses are, and indeed often, wrong. Simple as that. Of you didnt like it im afraid it is just something you are going to have to deal with.

I find it bizarre you are of the opinion fans can call anyone they like legends, but only if you agree. Whens the statue of Frazer campbell being wrected?

So if people can't decide who is a legend then your opinion is completely pointless anyway.

Still haven't answered the question William, shall we repeat it until you do?
Is it people who determine if an event or person are worthy of the adjective legendary.
Do not avoid it this time!
It is an easy question, you afraid of getting it wrong William?