It's all falling to pieces at the council ground

I prefer to stay as we are and compete as best we can.

I'm well aware that we'll never reach the top of this league. It's something that probably wouldn't happen even with major investment. That's not a lack of ambition, it's realism.

Give me my club playing in it's traditional colours and owned by local people who have it's best interests at heart, over selling our soul for a shot at a chance to finish a couple of places higher any day of the week.

You call it selling your soul because you'll never be given the chance to gain major investment. That's why you're so bitter. Put it this way, if Huw was offered £100m to change you pink then he would take it because he's a businessman. So much for your traditionalist views. He's a businessman first and foremost and if he wasn't he wouldn't be taking dividends out of the club now would he? He would reinvest it as he would have the clubs best interests at heart.

NJ73, sorry but you're falling behind with the times. Its a business world now and thats football in a nutshell. Rightly or wrongly thats the way it is. Your club is no different believe me. We'll all eventually fall victim to the Sky and Premier League monopoly.

If Huw was offered £100m that would mean our club was valued at approx £850m as he is a minority shareholder.

My club is run exactly the way I want it to be run, and with a 20% supporters trust (larger than Huw's) shareholding. How on earth does that make me bitter?

I guess it just goes to show the difference in mentality.

Anyhow you lot were going on about us playing a a council stadium. Now you want to shift the goal posts and brag about size. If we are going to argue about size, then Cardiff is not amongst the largest two thousand cities in the world. But SCFC is amongst the fifty richest clubs in the world, which on football terms (this is a football forum) means we are punching way above our weight. If football success was dependant upon population, neither city would have a premier league side. And thats the truth of it.

True. However, your main selling point is us which is why you sell goods at Cardiff International Airport because you do not possess one. Is Huw or a major investor going to build one in Swansea? I doubt it. These external offerings all offer attraction to potential investors or owners. They want growth and want to invest in something where they can maximise profits. Tell me how they can get that at Swansea please. You have no economic hub in Swansea and your town is notoriously known for many socio-economic issues which doesn't present a very good picture. Cardiff meanwhile has an International Airport, of which ill admit is doing poorly, is closer to cities like London, Birmingham and Bristol and has a growing economic centre and offers much more as a whole. It also has a very attractive bayside area that is of course going to set investors on red alert.

Football clubs are businesses these days and investors want the whole package. They want to own hotels and want to offer package holidays to fans flying in from abroad to stay there and experience the game and get them hooked. The fact your stadium is owned by the council is also a massive issue for you yet you seem to be unable to understand that its not. Your stadium is not yours and is not an asset of the clubs and therefore any potential investor will be put off by the fact they do not have control of that stadium in its complete form. Its great for you from a traditional point of view because the council can reject any applications it damn well likes but from a USP point of view its ridiculous. Investors want to own things and they want full control, especially the new types who like to make changes and impose themselves upon already established businesses. The fact you do not own your stadium hinders that.

Are you boasting that you have a council owned airport? The airport is actually owned by the WAG, its just a shame its in the middle of nowhere and hardly any operators want to fly out of it. Sorry if you're irritated by us advertising an an airport on your doorstep, owned by the nation.

Having said all that, and after engaging in some home truths, I love visiting the capital, its a great place. The bay though is a soulless place which looks like it was assembled from a super sized Ikea kit of parts. I think its ruined that part of Cardiff, but its your city you may feel differently.

Night night.

Anyhow you lot were going on about us playing a a council stadium. Now you want to shift the goal posts and brag about size. If we are going to argue about size, then Cardiff is not amongst the largest two thousand cities in the world. But SCFC is amongst the fifty richest clubs in the world, which on football terms (this is a football forum) means we are punching way above our weight. If football success was dependant upon population, neither city would have a premier league side. And thats the truth of it.

True. However, your main selling point is us which is why you sell goods at Cardiff International Airport because you do not possess one. Is Huw or a major investor going to build one in Swansea? I doubt it. These external offerings all offer attraction to potential investors or owners. They want growth and want to invest in something where they can maximise profits. Tell me how they can get that at Swansea please. You have no economic hub in Swansea and your town is notoriously known for many socio-economic issues which doesn't present a very good picture. Cardiff meanwhile has an International Airport, of which ill admit is doing poorly, is closer to cities like London, Birmingham and Bristol and has a growing economic centre and offers much more as a whole. It also has a very attractive bayside area that is of course going to set investors on red alert.

Football clubs are businesses these days and investors want the whole package. They want to own hotels and want to offer package holidays to fans flying in from abroad to stay there and experience the game and get them hooked. The fact your stadium is owned by the council is also a massive issue for you yet you seem to be unable to understand that its not. Your stadium is not yours and is not an asset of the clubs and therefore any potential investor will be put off by the fact they do not have control of that stadium in its complete form. Its great for you from a traditional point of view because the council can reject any applications it damn well likes but from a USP point of view its ridiculous. Investors want to own things and they want full control, especially the new types who like to make changes and impose themselves upon already established businesses. The fact you do not own your stadium hinders that.

You seem to be under the impression that we would like a major investor.

This shows a complete and utter misunderstanding of everything the club stands for and how we work.

Local club owned by local people and fans. Long may it continue.

you have been owned by local people throughout your history,give or take, and to be honest, not been happy hoppers until you got promoted..so yes at the moment you are the model club........but havent always been.....and will you in the future,or will you crave investment?

We've had our fair share of crap owners of course, which side around the lower leagues hasn't.

But to say we've only been happy since we got promoted? Have you been sleeping for the last 11 years?

You seem to be under the impression that we would like a major investor.

This shows a complete and utter misunderstanding of everything the club stands for and how we work.

Local club owned by local people and fans. Long may it continue.

You'll never reach the top then in this league or compete. You need to spend big in this league to compete as proven over the last few years. I admire your traditionalist ways but your lack of ambition is appalling.

I prefer to stay as we are and compete as best we can.

I'm well aware that we'll never reach the top of this league. It's something that probably wouldn't happen even with major investment. That's not a lack of ambition, it's realism.

Give me my club playing in it's traditional colours and owned by local people who have it's best interests at heart, over selling our soul for a shot at a chance to finish a couple of places higher any day of the week.

That's bullshit being owed by local people one if your owners/ director is from Scandinavia lol

You seem to be under the impression that we would like a major investor.

This shows a complete and utter misunderstanding of everything the club stands for and how we work.

Local club owned by local people and fans. Long may it continue.

You'll never reach the top then in this league or compete. You need to spend big in this league to compete as proven over the last few years. I admire your traditionalist ways but your lack of ambition is appalling.

I prefer to stay as we are and compete as best we can.

I'm well aware that we'll never reach the top of this league. It's something that probably wouldn't happen even with major investment. That's not a lack of ambition, it's realism.

Give me my club playing in it's traditional colours and owned by local people who have it's best interests at heart, over selling our soul for a shot at a chance to finish a couple of places higher any day of the week.

That's bullshit being owed by local people one if your owners/ director is from Scandinavia lol

Also brian katzen 22% shareholder is south African lol

You seem to be under the impression that we would like a major investor.

This shows a complete and utter misunderstanding of everything the club stands for and how we work.

Local club owned by local people and fans. Long may it continue.

You'll never reach the top then in this league or compete. You need to spend big in this league to compete as proven over the last few years. I admire your traditionalist ways but your lack of ambition is appalling.

I prefer to stay as we are and compete as best we can.

I'm well aware that we'll never reach the top of this league. It's something that probably wouldn't happen even with major investment. That's not a lack of ambition, it's realism.

Give me my club playing in it's traditional colours and owned by local people who have it's best interests at heart, over selling our soul for a shot at a chance to finish a couple of places higher any day of the week.

That's bullshit being owed by local people one if your owners/ director is from Scandinavia lol

Not unless Holland is in Scandinavia he isn't One is also South African.

But the vast majority of the shareholding is local.

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You seem to be under the impression that we would like a major investor.

This shows a complete and utter misunderstanding of everything the club stands for and how we work.

Local club owned by local people and fans. Long may it continue.

You'll never reach the top then in this league or compete. You need to spend big in this league to compete as proven over the last few years. I admire your traditionalist ways but your lack of ambition is appalling.

I prefer to stay as we are and compete as best we can.

I'm well aware that we'll never reach the top of this league. It's something that probably wouldn't happen even with major investment. That's not a lack of ambition, it's realism.

Give me my club playing in it's traditional colours and owned by local people who have it's best interests at heart, over selling our soul for a shot at a chance to finish a couple of places higher any day of the week.

That's bullshit being owed by local people one if your owners/ director is from Scandinavia lol

The fans own 20%
Martin morgan owns 22.5%
Jenkins owns 12.5%
Rob Davies owns 20%
brian Katzen owns 20%

The remaining 5% is split amongst a few.

All the major shareholders that ownn95% of the club are ling term shareholders and are all local people, apart from Katzen who is of South African dissent.

Lets be honest. The Jacks could win the Champions League, but ultimately, they would still be from Swansea. Being from Swansea is not a thing that you'd admit to openly before their football success. Unless that is if you work for a Third Sector outfit, Amazon warehouse, DVLC, 'Nevs Call Centre Beauty's' or the Methadone Monday Rehab'Beats Angel Rangel Homeless Hospice. Winston Churchill said something along the lines of 'I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly'. The Rat-Boys, despite any football success, will always be from Swansea. Vive La Différence. Thank God.

I prefer to stay as we are and compete as best we can.

I'm well aware that we'll never reach the top of this league. It's something that probably wouldn't happen even with major investment. That's not a lack of ambition, it's realism.

Give me my club playing in it's traditional colours and owned by local people who have it's best interests at heart, over selling our soul for a shot at a chance to finish a couple of places higher any day of the week.

You call it selling your soul because you'll never be given the chance to gain major investment. That's why you're so bitter. Put it this way, if Huw was offered £100m to change you pink then he would take it because he's a businessman. So much for your traditionalist views. He's a businessman first and foremost and if he wasn't he wouldn't be taking dividends out of the club now would he? He would reinvest it as he would have the clubs best interests at heart.

NJ73, sorry but you're falling behind with the times. Its a business world now and thats football in a nutshell. Rightly or wrongly thats the way it is. Your club is no different believe me. We'll all eventually fall victim to the Sky and Premier League monopoly.

If Huw was offered £100m that would mean our club was valued at approx £850m as he is a minority shareholder.

My club is run exactly the way I want it to be run, and with a 20% supporters trust (larger than Huw's) shareholding. How on earth does that make me bitter?

I guess it just goes to show the difference in mentality.

I think the problem for jenkins and co is to try and work a way out of their box (I posted on this months ago).
Welsh Wigan is I am afraid an apt metaphor but you don't even have Whelan.
You don't own the ground - but I suspect you will try and buy it from the council
Relatively small town
A formula/system that could easily go tits up
AFAIK limited commercial income and entirely dependent upon pl money
ownership structure that mitigates against external investment

How do you grow?

I prefer to stay as we are and compete as best we can.

I'm well aware that we'll never reach the top of this league. It's something that probably wouldn't happen even with major investment. That's not a lack of ambition, it's realism.

Give me my club playing in it's traditional colours and owned by local people who have it's best interests at heart, over selling our soul for a shot at a chance to finish a couple of places higher any day of the week.

You call it selling your soul because you'll never be given the chance to gain major investment. That's why you're so bitter. Put it this way, if Huw was offered £100m to change you pink then he would take it because he's a businessman. So much for your traditionalist views. He's a businessman first and foremost and if he wasn't he wouldn't be taking dividends out of the club now would he? He would reinvest it as he would have the clubs best interests at heart.

NJ73, sorry but you're falling behind with the times. Its a business world now and thats football in a nutshell. Rightly or wrongly thats the way it is. Your club is no different believe me. We'll all eventually fall victim to the Sky and Premier League monopoly.

If Huw was offered £100m that would mean our club was valued at approx £850m as he is a minority shareholder.

My club is run exactly the way I want it to be run, and with a 20% supporters trust (larger than Huw's) shareholding. How on earth does that make me bitter?

I guess it just goes to show the difference in mentality.

I think the problem for jenkins and co is to try and work a way out of their box (I posted on this months ago).
Welsh Wigan is I am afraid an apt metaphor but you don't even have Whelan.
You don't own the ground - but I suspect you will try and buy it from the council
Relatively small town
A formula/system that could easily go tits up
AFAIK limited commercial income and entirely dependent upon pl money
ownership structure that mitigates against external investment

How do you grow?

By selling out to an external investor who would quite possibly rip the heart and soul out of the club, tear up tradition butpump a few quid in.

That's not for me thanks. I'll take us as we are, wherever we finish.

I prefer to stay as we are and compete as best we can.

I'm well aware that we'll never reach the top of this league. It's something that probably wouldn't happen even with major investment. That's not a lack of ambition, it's realism.

Give me my club playing in it's traditional colours and owned by local people who have it's best interests at heart, over selling our soul for a shot at a chance to finish a couple of places higher any day of the week.

You call it selling your soul because you'll never be given the chance to gain major investment. That's why you're so bitter. Put it this way, if Huw was offered £100m to change you pink then he would take it because he's a businessman. So much for your traditionalist views. He's a businessman first and foremost and if he wasn't he wouldn't be taking dividends out of the club now would he? He would reinvest it as he would have the clubs best interests at heart.

NJ73, sorry but you're falling behind with the times. Its a business world now and thats football in a nutshell. Rightly or wrongly thats the way it is. Your club is no different believe me. We'll all eventually fall victim to the Sky and Premier League monopoly.

If Huw was offered £100m that would mean our club was valued at approx £850m as he is a minority shareholder.

My club is run exactly the way I want it to be run, and with a 20% supporters trust (larger than Huw's) shareholding. How on earth does that make me bitter?

I guess it just goes to show the difference in mentality.

I think the problem for jenkins and co is to try and work a way out of their box (I posted on this months ago).
Welsh Wigan is I am afraid an apt metaphor but you don't even have Whelan.
You don't own the ground - but I suspect you will try and buy it from the council
Relatively small town
A formula/system that could easily go tits up
AFAIK limited commercial income and entirely dependent upon pl money
ownership structure that mitigates against external investment

How do you grow?

Welsh Wigan is a stupid term. Its like calling you Welsh Leyton Orient.

Ac Milan dont own their ground. What is the purpose of owning a ground then? Do you wish to sell it... If so where will you play?

It is a city, not a town and one that has about 90,000-100,000 less inhabitants than Cardiff. Thats hardly staggering differences.

AFAIK proves to be just that then. Our commercial income is excellent and we do not seek externat investment, why would we? Involving external investments ruins everything we are and have worked for.

You have tons of external investment and have had your name dragged through the mud and turned out red for it, not even known if you will keep that name while being in over £100m of debt and rooted to the bottom of the league. Think about what you are saying.

You seem to be under the impression that we would like a major investor.

This shows a complete and utter misunderstanding of everything the club stands for and how we work.

Local club owned by local people and fans. Long may it continue.

You'll never reach the top then in this league or compete. You need to spend big in this league to compete as proven over the last few years. I admire your traditionalist ways but your lack of ambition is appalling.

I prefer to stay as we are and compete as best we can.

I'm well aware that we'll never reach the top of this league. It's something that probably wouldn't happen even with major investment. That's not a lack of ambition, it's realism.

Give me my club playing in it's traditional colours and owned by local people who have it's best interests at heart, over selling our soul for a shot at a chance to finish a couple of places higher any day of the week.

That's bullshit being owed by local people one if your owners/ director is from Scandinavia lol

Not unless Holland is in Scandinavia he isn't One is also South African.

But the vast majority of the shareholding is local.

So your not owned locally then as.most of you jacks keep harping on about hmmmmm

So your not owned locally then as.most of you jacks keep harping on about hmmmmm

77% of the club is owned locally. If they formed a consortium they would have controlling stake of the club. So yes, we are owned locally.

Last edited by Cardiff_Casual on Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:54 pm, edited 1 time in total.

You seem to be under the impression that we would like a major investor.

This shows a complete and utter misunderstanding of everything the club stands for and how we work.

Local club owned by local people and fans. Long may it continue.

You'll never reach the top then in this league or compete. You need to spend big in this league to compete as proven over the last few years. I admire your traditionalist ways but your lack of ambition is appalling.

I prefer to stay as we are and compete as best we can.

I'm well aware that we'll never reach the top of this league. It's something that probably wouldn't happen even with major investment. That's not a lack of ambition, it's realism.

Give me my club playing in it's traditional colours and owned by local people who have it's best interests at heart, over selling our soul for a shot at a chance to finish a couple of places higher any day of the week.

That's bullshit being owed by local people one if your owners/ director is from Scandinavia lol

Not unless Holland is in Scandinavia he isn't One is also South African.

But the vast majority of the shareholding is local.

So your not owned locally then as.most of you jacks keep harping on about hmmmmm

Yes we are

Unless you're clutching at the straws of a minority shareholding Swans fan not actually being from Swansea meaning we're not locally owned? But that would just be weird.

I prefer to stay as we are and compete as best we can.

I'm well aware that we'll never reach the top of this league. It's something that probably wouldn't happen even with major investment. That's not a lack of ambition, it's realism.

Give me my club playing in it's traditional colours and owned by local people who have it's best interests at heart, over selling our soul for a shot at a chance to finish a couple of places higher any day of the week.

You call it selling your soul because you'll never be given the chance to gain major investment. That's why you're so bitter. Put it this way, if Huw was offered £100m to change you pink then he would take it because he's a businessman. So much for your traditionalist views. He's a businessman first and foremost and if he wasn't he wouldn't be taking dividends out of the club now would he? He would reinvest it as he would have the clubs best interests at heart.

NJ73, sorry but you're falling behind with the times. Its a business world now and thats football in a nutshell. Rightly or wrongly thats the way it is. Your club is no different believe me. We'll all eventually fall victim to the Sky and Premier League monopoly.

If Huw was offered £100m that would mean our club was valued at approx £850m as he is a minority shareholder.

My club is run exactly the way I want it to be run, and with a 20% supporters trust (larger than Huw's) shareholding. How on earth does that make me bitter?

I guess it just goes to show the difference in mentality.

I think the problem for jenkins and co is to try and work a way out of their box (I posted on this months ago).
Welsh Wigan is I am afraid an apt metaphor but you don't even have Whelan.
You don't own the ground - but I suspect you will try and buy it from the council
Relatively small town
A formula/system that could easily go tits up
AFAIK limited commercial income and entirely dependent upon pl money
ownership structure that mitigates against external investment

How do you grow?

Welsh Wigan is a stupid term. Its like calling you Welsh Leyton Orient.

Ac Milan dont own their ground. What is the purpose of owning a ground then? Do you wish to sell it... If so where will you play?

It is a city, not a town and one that has about 90,000-100,000 less inhabitants than Cardiff. Thats hardly staggering differences.

AFAIK proves to be just that then. Our commercial income is excellent and we do not seek externat investment, why would we? Involving external investments ruins everything we are and have worked for.

You have tons of external investment and have had your name dragged through the mud and turned out red for it, not even known if you will keep that name while being in over £100m of debt and rooted to the bottom of the league. Think about what you are saying.

Owning your ground means you get all the revenue from hospitality events etc ,the Milan clubs have billionaire backers in like you

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I prefer to stay as we are and compete as best we can.

I'm well aware that we'll never reach the top of this league. It's something that probably wouldn't happen even with major investment. That's not a lack of ambition, it's realism.

Give me my club playing in it's traditional colours and owned by local people who have it's best interests at heart, over selling our soul for a shot at a chance to finish a couple of places higher any day of the week.

You call it selling your soul because you'll never be given the chance to gain major investment. That's why you're so bitter. Put it this way, if Huw was offered £100m to change you pink then he would take it because he's a businessman. So much for your traditionalist views. He's a businessman first and foremost and if he wasn't he wouldn't be taking dividends out of the club now would he? He would reinvest it as he would have the clubs best interests at heart.

NJ73, sorry but you're falling behind with the times. Its a business world now and thats football in a nutshell. Rightly or wrongly thats the way it is. Your club is no different believe me. We'll all eventually fall victim to the Sky and Premier League monopoly.

If Huw was offered £100m that would mean our club was valued at approx £850m as he is a minority shareholder.

My club is run exactly the way I want it to be run, and with a 20% supporters trust (larger than Huw's) shareholding. How on earth does that make me bitter?

I guess it just goes to show the difference in mentality.

I think the problem for jenkins and co is to try and work a way out of their box (I posted on this months ago).
Welsh Wigan is I am afraid an apt metaphor but you don't even have Whelan.
You don't own the ground - but I suspect you will try and buy it from the council
Relatively small town
A formula/system that could easily go tits up
AFAIK limited commercial income and entirely dependent upon pl money
ownership structure that mitigates against external investment

How do you grow?

Welsh Wigan is a stupid term. Its like calling you Welsh Leyton Orient.

Ac Milan dont own their ground. What is the purpose of owning a ground then? Do you wish to sell it... If so where will you play?

It is a city, not a town and one that has about 90,000-100,000 less inhabitants than Cardiff. Thats hardly staggering differences.

AFAIK proves to be just that then. Our commercial income is excellent and we do not seek externat investment, why would we? Involving external investments ruins everything we are and have worked for.

You have tons of external investment and have had your name dragged through the mud and turned out red for it, not even known if you will keep that name while being in over £100m of debt and rooted to the bottom of the league. Think about what you are saying.

Now then c**t face.
You've been peddling your tripe for a couple or more years now. In that time and despite your reams of bollocks we got promoted, we're a couple of points away from the jerky wonders and have a new manager in place(who you said you admire) with obvious financial backing and a stadium extension underway.The red stuff will sort itself out.So let's see how things pan out over the next twelve months. On past experience you might be choosing to stick to tennis.

Now then c**t face.
You've been peddling your tripe for a couple or more years now. In that time and despite your reams of bollocks we got promoted, we're a couple of points away from the jerky wonders and have a new manager in place(who you said you admire) with obvious financial backing and a stadium extension underway.The red stuff will sort itself out.So let's see how things pan out over the next twelve months. On past experience you might be choosing to stick to tennis.

Now now Bomber Jacket, if you are going to talk rubbish then dont get angry when it is put in its place

Ive never doubted you could buy your way to promotion. By point has always been to what end. I and many other fans would never risk their club to be bottom of the premier league. Your club is in unmanageable levels of debt, has broken financial fair play rules, is seen as somewhat of a laughing stock and a circus, is not known whether you will keep your name, has infighting and a divided fanbase.... Ad thats just the tip of the ice berg sonny

Everything i have spoken about so far has come to fruition

I same players that failed to shine at the end of last season too and for the majority of the calendar year..

Come on ffs that team finished ninth won a cup and qualified for Europa , I know you love an argument mate but you're talking Bollocks now

No bollocks, just facts. Saw a shocking stat about the amount of premiership games you have won since your secondary cup win. If that is "doing the business", then I'm amazed.

Now then c**t face.
You've been peddling your tripe for a couple or more years now. In that time and despite your reams of bollocks we got promoted, we're a couple of points away from the jerky wonders and have a new manager in place(who you said you admire) with obvious financial backing and a stadium extension underway.The red stuff will sort itself out.So let's see how things pan out over the next twelve months. On past experience you might be choosing to stick to tennis.

Now now Bomber Jacket, if you are going to talk rubbish then dont get angry when it is put in its place

Ive never doubted you could buy your way to promotion. By point has always been to what end. I and many other fans would never risk their club to be bottom of the premier league. Your club is in unmanageable levels of debt, has broken financial fair play rules, is seen as somewhat of a laughing stock and a circus, is not known whether you will keep your name, has infighting and a divided fanbase.... Ad thats just the tip of the ice berg sonny

Everything i have spoken about so far has come to fruition

Like I said c**t face,
let's see how things pan out.

Just keep obsessing.

Now then c**t face.
You've been peddling your tripe for a couple or more years now. In that time and despite your reams of bollocks we got promoted, we're a couple of points away from the jerky wonders and have a new manager in place(who you said you admire) with obvious financial backing and a stadium extension underway.The red stuff will sort itself out.So let's see how things pan out over the next twelve months. On past experience you might be choosing to stick to tennis.

Now now Bomber Jacket, if you are going to talk rubbish then dont get angry when it is put in its place

Ive never doubted you could buy your way to promotion. By point has always been to what end. I and many other fans would never risk their club to be bottom of the premier league. Your club is in unmanageable levels of debt, has broken financial fair play rules, is seen as somewhat of a laughing stock and a circus, is not known whether you will keep your name, has infighting and a divided fanbase.... Ad thats just the tip of the ice berg sonny

Everything i have spoken about so far has come to fruition

Like I said c**t face,
let's see how things pan out.

Just keep obsessing.

See how it pans out?

What colour do you play in? What position are you in? How much debt you in? Are you 100% sure your name will remain?

Its already panned out mr roathie obsessor

I same players that failed to shine at the end of last season too and for the majority of the calendar year..

Come on ffs that team finished ninth won a cup and qualified for Europa , I know you love an argument mate but you're talking Bollocks now

No bollocks, just facts. Saw a shocking stat about the amount of premiership games you have won since your secondary cup win. If that is "doing the business", then I'm amazed.

Its got us to 15th position and a 9th place position last year.

Thats more than fine.

Its got us to 15th position and a 9th place position last year.

Thats more than fine.

But if that woeful form continues from the secondary cup win, you are in grave danger of relegation.

Its got us to 15th position and a 9th place position last year.

Thats more than fine.

But if that woeful form continues from the secondary cup win, you are in grave danger of relegation.

Our form shows exactly where we are. If everyones form continues the same we will be 15th.

We half half our first team coming back this week.

Now then c**t face.
You've been peddling your tripe for a couple or more years now. In that time and despite your reams of bollocks we got promoted, we're a couple of points away from the jerky wonders and have a new manager in place(who you said you admire) with obvious financial backing and a stadium extension underway.The red stuff will sort itself out.So let's see how things pan out over the next twelve months. On past experience you might be choosing to stick to tennis.

Now now Bomber Jacket, if you are going to talk rubbish then dont get angry when it is put in its place

Ive never doubted you could buy your way to promotion. By point has always been to what end. I and many other fans would never risk their club to be bottom of the premier league. Your club is in unmanageable levels of debt, has broken financial fair play rules, is seen as somewhat of a laughing stock and a circus, is not known whether you will keep your name, has infighting and a divided fanbase.... Ad thats just the tip of the ice berg sonny

Everything i have spoken about so far has come to fruition

Like I said c**t face,
let's see how things pan out.

Just keep obsessing.

In just a few hours you've gone from this.

"This latest lot is just the pus bursting from the boil.
It's been widely known for some time that Laudrup is on his way at the end of the season.He's only stayed for the Euro nonsense cup. Jenkins gave an interview to the Guardian before the derby game and some of the tensions were made clear in that.
Having had an emergency board meeting after 'chicopops' gate they are definitely worried and as jenkins admitted himself their next choice of manager is crucial to their future. In some respects that's not rocket science but for them it's absolutely crucial.He must be wondering when they will run out of luck.
I still hear whispers about financial issues down there and will get a handle on this before too long.
I wonder if Ngog will be a Laudrup buy or a jenkins in house scouting deal?"

ie: pretending to be someone in the know, but coming across as half sensible, to calling someone "c**t face"!

There can only be one conclusion to this. It's Friday night and your sat in front of your pc and slowly but surely, you've got pissed! Go to bed and come back tomorrow! Because tonight you will not offer anything to this or any other thread. Trust me!

Spot on 64

Spot on 64

I'd like to think that he took my advice. But in reality I guess his last post was his final stand before he collapsed from his chair! Hope he's ok!

Spot on 64

I'd like to think that he took my advice. But in reality I guess his last post was his final stand before he collapsed from his chair! Hope he's ok!

I assume he got tired after searching through gay porn and getting angry that Swansea are 5 places above him and in the last 32 of europe all beong locally owned.

I mean, thats all he seems to talk about. Well... That stuff and me. I just hope to God he doesnt cross over his interests and I end up the face of his sex doll with a swans top and a stake through the swans badge

Spot on 64

I'd like to think that he took my advice. But in reality I guess his last post was his final stand before he collapsed from his chair! Hope he's ok!

I assume he got tired after searching through gay porn and getting angry that Swansea are 5 places above him and in the last 32 of europe all beong locally owned.

I mean, thats all he seems to talk about. Well... That stuff and me. I just hope to God he doesnt cross over his interests and I end up the face of his sex doll with a swans top and a stake through the swans badge

Locally owned...pffft

Like all the top clubs are?

Spot on 64

I'd like to think that he took my advice. But in reality I guess his last post was his final stand before he collapsed from his chair! Hope he's ok!

I assume he got tired after searching through gay porn and getting angry that Swansea are 5 places above him and in the last 32 of europe all beong locally owned.

I mean, thats all he seems to talk about. Well... That stuff and me. I just hope to God he doesnt cross over his interests and I end up the face of his sex doll with a swans top and a stake through the swans badge

Dont mention his sex doll! You'll just entice me into saying that he probably uses his own dogs shit as lube, so I don't want to go there ok!

I'M OUTTA HERE!

Rombie Coat is rather bizarre poster.