Questions for religious believers?

Especially since you have given up knowledge and haven't told me where the laws of logic come from according to your worldview??

Science. Its there for you to see. Its maths most of it in its simplest form. Of course much too complex for you to comprehend.

You cannot do science or maths without universal, immaterial, unchanging laws that govern the universe.

If the did not exist then you would not be able to do science as you would have no way of knowing that things in the past are the same as the future, which is what a lot of scientific discovery and beliefs are based upon.

So please tell me, where did the laws of logic come from and please don't say science/maths as the laws of logic clearly have to predate both of those for anything in them to make sense!

I waiting for your answer God Boy!!!!

Ok if you want to say that GOD doesn't exist because of all the shit things that happen everyday on the planet,
What about all the good things that happen? who are gonna attribute them to?

Im saying he never existed, apart from in weak peoples mind .I was saying that Religion causes this barbaric behaviour.
Good things are great it just called life . Generally due to someones hard work.

Well you can't it both way's mate.
If in your understanding "Good things are great it just called life" then bad things are just bad things and that's life.

Yes exactly that.
Unless they are caused by religious zealots

That's discriminatory, why can't any group cause these so called 'bad things', and what even makes things 'bad' without God?

Put the suit on and go and knock some doors

I waiting for your answer God Boy!!!!

Ok if you want to say that GOD doesn't exist because of all the shit things that happen everyday on the planet,
What about all the good things that happen? who are gonna attribute them to?

Im saying he never existed, apart from in weak peoples mind .I was saying that Religion causes this barbaric behaviour.
Good things are great it just called life . Generally due to someones hard work.

Well you can't it both way's mate.
If in your understanding "Good things are great it just called life" then bad things are just bad things and that's life.

Yes exactly that.
Unless they are caused by religious zealots

No no no come on now mate you can't have your cake and eat! if it's just life even the things caused by "religious zealots" is just life.

To answer your question and your rather silly PM I do have a Uni degree,a B.ed.FYI I've also put three of my children through uni too.My daugher spent three years @ aber gaining a 2:1 so I think I'm in a position to tell that anyone that spends the amount of time on-line as you do is hardly in a position to get a 2:1

I study Computer Science. Aberystwyth is highly respected for Computer Science and Robotics and has links with the likes of CERN and Google. Unless your children have done a degree in the specific field, no you ain't got a clue.

Also, im course for a 1st as you've already been told.

I was unfortunate enough to live next door to a Jehovahs witness family and what I am about to tell you is 100% I can assure you.

Two days after we moved in December a few years ago we put a small Xmas tree in the window of OUR house.
This very pleasant young lady came and knocked the door to introduce herself and asked if we would mind moving the tree out of our window as they are JWs and dont celebrate xmas. Her husband was like of lot of JWs and had a window cleaning job I am not sure if he had an accountant
This is the best bit, she then said would we forgive a little noise on Thursday evening because it was their Prayer meeting on that evening. We then found out, completely by accident that they had registered their house as a place of worship and because of this they were excempt from Council Tax.
Scrounging bastards

To answer your question and your rather silly PM I do have a Uni degree,a B.ed.FYI I've also put three of my children through uni too.My daugher spent three years @ aber gaining a 2:1 so I think I'm in a position to tell that anyone that spends the amount of time on-line as you do is hardly in a position to get a 2:1

I study Computer Science. Aberystwyth is highly respected for Computer Science and Robotics and has links with the likes of CERN and Google. Unless your children have done a degree in the specific field, no you ain't got a clue.

Also, im course for a 1st as you've already been told.

Pretencious Prick.
Do you think you are the only person on here that is educated?

Pretencious Prick.
Do you think you are the only person on here that is educated?

I said that did I? Obviously I'm not the only person on here that is educated.

Pretencious Prick.
Do you think you are the only person on here that is educated?

I said that did I? Obviously I'm not the only person on here that is educated.

O.K. are you a jehovah witness?

Pretencious Prick.
Do you think you are the only person on here that is educated?

I said that did I? Obviously I'm not the only person on here that is educated.

O.K. are you a jehovah witness?

No. Don't like them knocking myself.

What about Islam and Judaism? They worship the same God as Christians do.

Was that question aimed at me, I believe the origins of their beliefs can be tracked back to the same source. But look at the islam belief now, its not similar to ours. Yes they have extremists but I am not eluding to that. They have the Qaran which may have similarities to the bible of christianity but is completely different. So how can you have 3 religions all believing in the same god yet their religious beliefs are completely different. I am not trying to argue here just my simple mind trying to get some answers

It was not aimed at you specifically. Just making a general point. But all three monotheic religions go back to the God of Abraham. Just taken different paths since.

MAYBE YOU DIDN'T HEAR ME> ARE YOU A JEHOVAH WITNESS?......................................IM WAITING

MAYBE YOU DIDN'T HEAR ME> ARE YOU A JEHOVAH WITNESS?......................................IM WAITING

MAYBE YOU DIDN'T HEAR ME< ARE YOU A PRIEST?......................................................................IM WAITING

MAYBE YOU DIDN'T HEAR ME> ARE YOU A JEHOVAH WITNESS?......................................IM WAITING

MAYBE YOU DIDN'T HEAR ME< ARE YOU A PRIEST?......................................................................IM WAITING

No .I'm perfectly normal thanks. I used to earn a crust as an E.N.T surgeon. And your good self?

Ah I see you are not going to tell me, I can wait though.

Ah I see you are not going to tell me, I can wait though.

Ah I see you are not going to tell me, I can wait though.

What's an E.N.T surgeon Extra naughty tw*t?
Na seriously what is it?

Ah I see you are not going to tell me, I can wait though.

What's an E.N.T surgeon Extra naughty tw*t?
Na seriously what is it?

I rest my case.

Ear, nose, and throat.

Ear, nose, and throat.

Seriously? Think he'll give me some advice iv'e been i'll all week with a sinus infection.

To answer your question and your rather silly PM I do have a Uni degree,a B.ed.FYI I've also put three of my children through uni too.My daugher spent three years @ aber gaining a 2:1 so I think I'm in a position to tell that anyone that spends the amount of time on-line as you do is hardly in a position to get a 2:1

I study Computer Science. Aberystwyth is highly respected for Computer Science and Robotics and has links with the likes of CERN and Google. Unless your children have done a degree in the specific field, no you ain't got a clue.

Also, im course for a 1st as you've already been told.

I'm glad about that because if it was for common sense and maturity you'd struggle to get a pass.I must be getting old as I can't remember my kids being so childish at your age,opinionated yes,but you sort of crap they grew out of at seventeen.

Ah I see you are not going to tell me, I can wait though.

What's an E.N.T surgeon Extra naughty tw*t?
Na seriously what is it?

I rest my case.

The lefies will troll you my good man, it's a waste of time trying to debate or discuss anything with them. They see only black and white, right or wrong, left or right. It's symptomatic of the left wing trolls, Mike Morris's message board for example was a heaven of free speech for many years. Then the lefties hit hard and often gone to shite now.

Especially since you have given up knowledge and haven't told me where the laws of logic come from according to your worldview??

Science. Its there for you to see. Its maths most of it in its simplest form. Of course much too complex for you to comprehend.

You cannot do science or maths without universal, immaterial, unchanging laws that govern the universe.

If the did not exist then you would not be able to do science as you would have no way of knowing that things in the past are the same as the future, which is what a lot of scientific discovery and beliefs are based upon.

So please tell me, where did the laws of logic come from and please don't say science/maths as the laws of logic clearly have to predate both of those for anything in them to make sense!

I'm sorry, I've come into this thread a little late and have missed the discussion and have found we are into the inevitable part where JB pisses someone off

Can you elaborate a bit further on your point? I can't seem to make too much sense of it, and this is a topic I'm very interested in, I follow the works of Lawrence Krauss, Neil DeGrasse Tyson, Richard Dawkins, Bill Nye and lots of others daily (even Ray Comfort!). Not so much for the atheistic aspect, but the science fascinates me. But obviously it massively conflicts with religious belief.

Especially since you have given up knowledge and haven't told me where the laws of logic come from according to your worldview??

Science. Its there for you to see. Its maths most of it in its simplest form. Of course much too complex for you to comprehend.

You cannot do science or maths without universal, immaterial, unchanging laws that govern the universe.

If the did not exist then you would not be able to do science as you would have no way of knowing that things in the past are the same as the future, which is what a lot of scientific discovery and beliefs are based upon.

So please tell me, where did the laws of logic come from and please don't say science/maths as the laws of logic clearly have to predate both of those for anything in them to make sense!

I'm sorry, I've come into this thread a little late and have missed the discussion and have found we are into the inevitable part where JB pisses someone off

Can you elaborate a bit further on your point? I can't seem to make too much sense of it, and this is a topic I'm very interested in, I follow the works of Lawrence Krauss, Neil DeGrasse Tyson, Richard Dawkins, Bill Nye and lots of others daily (even Ray Comfort!). Not so much for the atheistic aspect, but the science fascinates me. But obviously it massively conflicts with religious belief.

You follow? Then religion, spell check, is for you my furry friend, vote labour, buy the guardian and indulge with CCMB. You may say Baahh, Baahh from time to time, sheep follow, leaders lead. Your choice my young friend, follow the left wing sheep or just get on with your life, you only have one, one shot, up to you. Good luck, you ever need any advice, here you have the font of wisdom, only Annis buys the Guardian, something to do with starting his wood burning thing up. Sorry for the disjointed verbal, a third lady has turned up..

Ermm.... What?

I hope that's a drunken post, it made me laugh

If it was a serious one... You've lost me!

The things of God are foolishness to those who don't believe.

I was unfortunate enough to live next door to a Jehovahs witness family and what I am about to tell you is 100% I can assure you.

Two days after we moved in December a few years ago we put a small Xmas tree in the window of OUR house.
This very pleasant young lady came and knocked the door to introduce herself and asked if we would mind moving the tree out of our window as they are JWs and dont celebrate xmas. Her husband was like of lot of JWs and had a window cleaning job I am not sure if he had an accountant
This is the best bit, she then said would we forgive a little noise on Thursday evening because it was their Prayer meeting on that evening. We then found out, completely by accident that they had registered their house as a place of worship and because of this they were excempt from Council Tax.
Scrounging bastards

your correct.a lot of jw,s are window cleaners.i know some in my town.lovely lads to be fair.im a window cleaner too tho not a jw.i believe in the lord tho.i have jw customers who are not like the people you described.one gives me a pound at christmas even tho she dont celebrate it as a thank you for my services.also tea most weeks.we talk ,agree on many things but not on others.if i was the opening post i,d concentrate on being consistent in my life not trying to be all things to all men.the lad has had more colours than a traffic light over the rebrand but wants to pull apart people over faith??mathew 5 -salt .may give a little hint about the rebrand and what will happen james.the good book is a great way to live my life by.i manage some things,fail in others.the reason?quite simply im not god..

What about Islam and Judaism? They worship the same God as Christians do.

Was that question aimed at me, I believe the origins of their beliefs can be tracked back to the same source. But look at the islam belief now, its not similar to ours. Yes they have extremists but I am not eluding to that. They have the Qaran which may have similarities to the bible of christianity but is completely different. So how can you have 3 religions all believing in the same god yet their religious beliefs are completely different. I am not trying to argue here just my simple mind trying to get some answers

It was not aimed at you specifically. Just making a general point. But all three monotheic religions go back to the God of Abraham. Just taken different paths since.

that is correct.all from aberham/iberham roots.the slave girl bore him a child.was her name hager?in genisis o/t.

What about Islam and Judaism? They worship the same God as Christians do.

Was that question aimed at me, I believe the origins of their beliefs can be tracked back to the same source. But look at the islam belief now, its not similar to ours. Yes they have extremists but I am not eluding to that. They have the Qaran which may have similarities to the bible of christianity but is completely different. So how can you have 3 religions all believing in the same god yet their religious beliefs are completely different. I am not trying to argue here just my simple mind trying to get some answers

It was not aimed at you specifically. Just making a general point. But all three monotheic religions go back to the God of Abraham. Just taken different paths since.

that is correct.all from aberham/iberham roots.the slave girl bore him a child.was her name hager?in genisis o/t.

What a car crash of a thread.